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** [=SenorCornholio=]: For me personally, episode XCIX was this. No, it's not the fact that Jashi became canon; I have several reasons why the pairing wouldn't normally work, but I could honestly forgive that if it wasn't all packaged into one episode. All the stuff that could explicitly be seen as ShipTease material was thrust in at once, and the whole thing just felt like it was [[StrangledByTheRedString forcing them together]]. If they wanted this pairing to work, [[MayDecemberRomance age gap be damned]], then I feel they should have spread the teasing across more than one episode. But nope: obvious hints at the beginning of the episode, thrust into a life-or-death situation in the middle, and then at the end they exhaustively look at one another after their near-death experience, then finally...[[BigDamnKiss they suddenly kiss]]. No prompting, no major buildup, just locked lips without a cause. Bottom line: if they want me to find this pairing believable, they shouldn't have rushed it like they did. It just puts a huge blemish on what was otherwise a fantastic show. On the plus side however, the fan drama that arose from the event was pretty epic; props to Genndy for that at least.

** [=SenorCornholio=]: For me personally, episode XCIX was this. No, it's not the fact that Jashi became canon; I have several reasons why the pairing wouldn't normally work, but I could honestly forgive that if it wasn't all packaged into one episode. All the stuff that could explicitly be seen as ShipTease material was thrust in at once, and the whole thing just felt like it was [[StrangledByTheRedString forcing them together]]. If they wanted this pairing to work, [[MayflyDecemberRomance age gap be damned]], then I feel they should have spread the teasing across more than one episode. But nope: obvious hints at the beginning of the episode, thrust into a life-or-death situation in the middle, and then at the end they exhaustively look at one another after their near-death experience, then finally...[[BigDamnKiss they suddenly kiss]]. No prompting, no major buildup, just locked lips without a cause. Bottom line: if they want me to find this pairing believable, they shouldn't have rushed it like they did. It just puts a huge blemish on what was otherwise a fantastic show. On the plus side however, the fan drama that arose from the event was pretty epic; props to Genndy for that at least.

** [=SenorCornholio=]: For me personally, episode XCIX was this. No, it's not the fact that Jashi became canon; I have several reasons why the pairing wouldn't normally work, but I could honestly forgive that if it wasn't all packaged into one episode. All the stuff that could explicitly be seen as ShipTease material was thrust in at once, and the whole thing just felt like it was [[StrangledByTheRedString forcing them together]]. If they wanted this pairing to work, [[MayflyDecemberRomance age gap be damned]], then I feel they should have spread the teasing across more than one episode. But nope: obvious hints at the beginning, thrust into a life-or-death situation, they exhaustively look at one another after their near-death experience, and then...[[BigDamnKiss they suddenly kiss]]. No prompting, no major buildup, just locked lips without a cause. Bottom line: if they want me to find this pairing believable, they shouldn't have rushed it like they did. It just puts a huge blemish on what was otherwise a fantastic show. On the plus side however, the fan drama that arose from the event was pretty epic; props to Genndy for that at least.

** [=SenorCornholio=]: For me personally, episode XCIX was this. No, it's not the fact that Jashi became canon; I have several reasons why the pairing wouldn't normally work, but I could honestly forgive that if it wasn't all packaged into one episode. All the stuff that could explicitly be seen as ShipTease material was thrust in at once, and the whole thing just felt like it was [[StrangledByTheRedString forcing them together]]. If they wanted this pairing to work, [[MayflyDecemberRomance age gap be damned]], then I feel they should have spread the teasing across more than one episode. But nope: obvious hints at the beginning, thrust into a life-or-death situation, they exhaustively look at one another after their near-death experience, and then...[[BigDamnKiss they suddenly kiss]]. No prompting, no major buildup, just locked lips without a cause. Bottom line: if they want me to find this pairing believable, they shouldn't have rushed it like they did. It just puts a huge blemish on what was otherwise a fantastic show. On the plus side however, the drama that arose from the event was pretty epic; props to Genndy for that at least.

* HSRW101: It's very rare for me to complain about this show as nothing really made me angry, but one thing that always rubbed me the wrong way was in The Robomechabotatron episode. Very basic lesson about learning to work as a team in order to pilot the giant mech as Wander tries to get Sylvia, Lord Hater and Peepers to cooperate as a team to save the galaxy from Dominator, and it makes sense that the 3 wouldn't get along with all that has happened before. But the problem that got in their way to actually saving the galaxy? WANDER HIMSELF! I get that he always preferred the method without violence to solve problems, that's how he is...but dude...you KNOW the galaxy is in danger cause of Dominator...YOU'RE the one who said that you all need to work as a team to pilot the mech and save said galaxy...and YOU'RE the one who literally prevented everyone who finally managed to put their differences aside to work together when you should've KNOWN they were planning on fighting Dominator to do so. And for what reason? Your HONOUR?! You know its a bad sign when Hater, a bad guy mind you, accurately predicted that Wander would want to use the mech to give out hugs instead of what it was intended to do, FIGHT EVIL! In fairness, I get the anti-climax gag in the end, but its just so frustrating to think that Wander should've known better that not everyone was on the same page with how they planned to use the mech, especially at a time when the galaxy needed it most. And he refused to work as a team after all the preaching he did about how they should ALL work as a team, all because he doesn't want to use violence in a mech specifically designed to use violence against bad guys, which was what 3/4 of the team wanted to do! Never thought we'd see one of the most optimistic and positive characters of this generation actually make a hypocritical move, what were the writers thinking?!

* SampaCM: I'd gladly watch all episodes of ''Hey Arnold!'' again, except for one: The Stoop Kid. Long story short, the titular kid is an orphan who likes sitting on the doorstep of his house, and insulting whoever walks by. The kids of the neighborhood are too scared of him as they consider him a CreepyChild, and even there is a legand about his origin, told by ''Gerald, no less!'' Their football fell over his doorstep, but they don't dare get close. However, when Arnold somehow manages to retrieve the football from the doorstep, Stoop Kid limites to insut Arnold from the doorstep. Here's where we enter the [=DMOS=] part: the kids conclude that Stoop kid is actually too scared to leave the doorstep, so they take advantage of it, and start picking on him, to the point of making him cry bitterly. Arnold, however, feels compassionate for him and helps him face his fears and leave the doorstep. Now, the ending with Stoop Kid finally leaving the doorstep is a HearwarmingMoment, but the part where the kids pick on him is just too mean-spirited and painful to watch this episode ever again.

* Loekman3: While I enjoyed episode XCVII from ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' aka the ContinuityCavalcade episode where every character that I loved made a reappearance and the [[spoiler:return of Scaramouce]], one scene that I could not enjoy is Demongo's sudden reappearance. Considering that previously he is unambigously and straight up killed on-screen by Aku for failing him, there is absolutely no reason he should even appear but then this episode he suddenly appears and disappears as quickly, making it a BigLippedAlligatorMoment. How? Why? There is absolutely no explanation for his sudden reappearance aside from being an EnsembleDarkhorse which even I like but just because he is popular doesn't mean he deserves to come back, especially when he gets crushed by Aku for his failures.

** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her [[spoiler:having to leave Earth]]. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.

* Tropers/McMunchly: This is moment in the video game. I was super excited to get a free-roaming spider man game where I could be Venom, who was my favorite comic book character not just of Spiderman but any comic. But you can't unlock Venom for free-roaming unless you finish the story mode. I wanted Venom in free roaming so much because I wanted to reach Liberty Island and crawl around on the statue of liberty. So I played through the entire story mode (which was infuriatingly difficult at times). But I did it and unlocked Venom. Ever better is that I found the way to Liberty Island. There's a tunnel that goes underwater but there is walkable collision on the surface. It's too far away to reach the island with spider-man, but you can do a huge venom leap, switch to spider-man in mid-air and get off a double-jump. It's hard to do but possible and after dozens of tries I made it and was about to land on Liberty Island...then hit an invisible wall and a message box popped up saying 'You can't go there'. I played through the entire god-damned game for the sole purpose of reaching the statue of liberty and the game crushed my dream. The worse part is that I actually loved the game, but that one moment ruined everything.

* [=FromtheWordsofBR=]: "Bag of Money". In this episode, Arnold, Gerald, and Sid find...well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a bag containing $3,937]]. Arnold wants to return it to the police, but Gerald and Sid don't want him to, but once Arnold points out they could get a reward for returning it they agree and let him keep track of the bag. Sid even mentions how "Arnold is the most honest guy around", which bites him in the ass later on. Arnold goes on the city bus with the money and sits next to a pink-haired peg-legged one-eyebrow-donning lady with 4 bags, which are also the color of the bag of money Arnold has. However, the lady accidentally grabs Arnold's money bag and he winds up with a bag of bird seeds. Sid and Gerald don't believe Arnold's silly but true story. At first, it's all like "No, that's impossible, that can't be true, I don't believe you but I still trust you," but then it goes FromBadToWorse. Sid eventually convinces everybody that Arnold stole the money and says that the pink haired lady story is actually an excuse, and they actually believe him! And to rub more salt in the wound, remember that little statement Sid did a little earlier? He sure isn't acting like the poor guy is honest in this section of the episode. And then Sid starts spying on Arnold and says that he used the money to buy random stuff. The kids eventually grab Arnold and tie him up to the tether-ball pole. Then a police car comes and the lady Arnold described earlier comes to return Arnold's bus pass, and then everybody apologizes for hurting Arnold, yet Sid never gets a comeuppance for his harsh, hypocritical actions. Sorry, but no, not even the ending can {{easily forgive|n}} that. And second, why would they think a kid like Arnold would steal the money? He is the "most honest guy around", after all.

** [=SenorCornholio=]: After some careful thinking, I decided to finally contribute a moment here, and that's how little Kristoph contributes in the final third of the movie. I personally liked Kristoph as a character; he was an {{Adorkable}} ManChild [[AnimalLover with a]] [[AnimalSidekick dopey reindeer]]. It actually made him a bit unique from most Disney guys, and it made him a bit relatable especially since said reindeer reminded me of the first dog I ever owned. So we see Kristoph and Sven running across bad weather and melting ice to get to Anna, who's currently in some massive danger, trying to reach her before something happens to her...and then Anna gets frozen anyway. And Kristoph ends up being unable to contribute jack all. It's Elsa who does it. I get that "sibling love" is also a form of true love, but poor Kristoph's only contributions to the whole movie were helping Anna get to Elsa and then back to Arendelle. The guy doesn't get near as much love as [[GenkiGirl Anna]], [[DefrostingIceQueen Elsa]], [[spoiler:[[MagnificentBastard Hans]]]], or even [[PluckyComicRelief Olaf]], and the fact he contributes so damn little in the grand scheme of things may have something to do with that. It's dumb, is what I'm trying to say.

[=SenorCornholio=]: After some careful thinking, I decided to finally contribute a moment here, and that's how little Kristoph contributes in the final third of the movie. I personally liked Kristoph as a character; he was an {{Adorkable}} ManChild [[AnimalLover with a]] [[AnimalSidekick dopey reindeer]]. It actually made him a bit unique from most Disney guys, and it made him a bit relatable especially since said reindeer reminded me of the first dog I ever owned. So we see Kristoph and Sven running across bad weather and melting ice to get to Anna, who's currently in some massive danger, trying to reach her before something happens to her...and then Anna gets frozen anyway. And Kristoph ends up being unable to contribute jack all. It's Elsa who does it. I get that "sibling love" is also a form of true love, but poor Kristoph's only contributions to the whole movie were helping Anna get to Elsa and then back to Arendelle. The guy doesn't get near as much love as [[GenkiGirl Anna]], [[DefrostingIceQueen Elsa]], [[spoiler:[[MagnificentBastard Hans]]]], or even [[PluckyComicRelief Olaf]], and the fact he contributes so damn little in the grand scheme of things may have something to do with that. It's dumb, is what I'm trying to say.

* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers because [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike this episode is still utterly amazing on its own]]: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. What is it with shows ending a season on these kinds of notes, anyway? It's like the WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic said in his Sonic review: "Leaving us on a cliffhanger doesn't guarantee a sequel, it just pisses us off! And even if they do have a sequel, it doesn't always mean it's gonna be good; just be self-contained!" I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].

* [=FromtheWordsofBR=]: "Bag of Money". In this episode, Arnold, Gerald, and Sid find...well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a bag of $3,937]]. Arnold wants to return it to the police, but Gerald and Sid don't want him to, but once Arnold points out they could get a reward for returning it they agree and let him keep track of the bag. Sid even mentions how "Arnold is the most honest guy around"--keep this in mind, because this is going to bite him back in the butt later. Arnold goes on the city bus with the money and sits next to a pink-haired peg-legged one-eyebrow-donning lady with 4 bags, which are also the color of the bag of money Arnold has. However, the lady accidentally grabs Arnold's money bag and he winds up with a bag of bird seeds. Sid and Gerald don't believe Arnold's silly but true story. At first, it's all like "No, that's impossible, that can't be true, I don't believe you but I still trust you," but then it goes FromBadToWorse. Sid eventually convinces everybody that Arnold stole the money and says that the pink haired lady story is actually an excuse, and they actually believe him! And to rub more salt in the wound, remember that little statement Sid did a little earlier? He sure isn't acting like the poor guy is honest in this section of the episode. And then Sid starts spying on Arnold and says that he used the money to buy random stuff. The kids eventually grab Arnold and tie him up to the tether-ball pole. Then a police car comes and the lady Arnold described earlier comes to return Arnold's bus pass, and then everybody apologizes for hurting Arnold, yet Sid never gets a comeuppance for his harsh, hypocritical actions. Sorry, but no, not even the ending can {{easily forgive|n}} that. And second, why would they think a kid like Arnold would steal the money? He is the "most honest guy around", after all.

** Kishou: Personally I felt the guy in the Goober suit was a DesignatedVillain for the episode. I get Goober was meant to be a joke and parody on [[Series/Barney&Friends Barney the Dinosaur]], but Chuckie and Dil honestly liked having a role model who wasn't so scary looking. They could have done something nice with Gobber to show that it's okay for friends to like different things, and it was kind of half-assed with emphasizing all Goober does is "give hugs". Yes, what the guy in the suit did was pretty mean stealing another kid's toy (and all the horrible parenting points go to Didi for not noticing this), but we don't know anything about this guy besides he's kind of a jerk. He might have a legit reason to hate the Reptar suit guy. He was eating his sandwich, for one, and when he threatened him, the Reptar guy just mocked him saying he would give it back if he would "give me a hug!" In the end, he lost the fight, and everyone cheers for Reptar for saving the kids he sent flying while booing him for saying "hey, I could have done that too!" It was really both their faults as Reptar pushed Gobber into the table that sent the babies flying.

* Saieras: ''StarWarsTheCloneWars'' introduced us to 99, a malformed and physically weak clone working maintenance. He wasn't fit for combat, but he still wanted to help in any way he could. In one of the most important battles of the show he finally got his chance to be a hero, bringing munitions to Echo and Fives and showing them the fastest way to the barracks and armory. Even though he was a NonActionGuy he still helped his brothers win the day. Then the group he was with ran out of thermal detonators, so 99 goes to get more. However, rather than exercise any sort of caution, he just darts out into the hallway full o' laser beams like a dumbass and dies. Sure, you could justify it by saying he was overeager and undertrained, but the [[StupidSacrifice stupidity of his sacrifice]] really diminished the emotional effect of his death.

* Tropers/{{bobdrantz}}: ''WesternAnimation/{{Mad}}'' (which I normally like) had the "Pokémon Park" (A parody of ''{{Pokemon}}'' and ''Franchise/JurassicPark'') skit. For one thing, the jokes made no sense (Pokémon randomly fight and evolve so they go crazy...what?), the characters do not match who they're supposed to parody (Why would Ash be the one in the Ian Malcolm role?), and they're inconsistent with which Pokémon represents which dinosaur (IE: It cannot make up its mind on whether the Pikachu is supposed to be {{Expy}} for the Velociraptors or if the Charmander are). It's like they just spent five seconds on a Wikipedia page on ''Pokémon'', watched only a few minutes of ''Jurassic Park'', and then just hastily threw this poor excuse for a "parody" together.

** Tropers/TheToonamiRose: Being a fan of this show and ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', I felt mixed about the new episode of the latter getting unexpectedly pushed back to next week in favor of Adult Swim's 2017 April Fools Day Prank (which involved looping the fairly enjoyable Season 3 premiere until midnight)...then when I found out they where gonna spam it the weekdays following the prank at 10pm/9c made me think this stunt went too far and seemed like an unnecessary blow and even [[FandomRivalry made a number of my fellow SJ fans turn against this show]]; in other words, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero nice job breaking the peaceful bond between two awesome fandoms, Adult Swim!]] (Although, I gotta thank you guys for letting us know for sure that this show is gonna officially return this [[AccidentalPun Summer]].)

* @Troper/middone: To be honest, Mommy's Little Assets or whichever one where Charlotte decides it would be a good idea to bring kids to school has always upset me. Everything is too obnoxious for me, especially the fact that Jonathan gets fired when he was honestly trying his best. Charlotte was a bit overkill sometimes, which disappoints me.

** Tropers/TheToonamiRose: Being a fan of this show and ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', I felt mixed about the new episode of the latter getting unexpectedly pushed back to next week in favor of Adult Swim's 2017 April Fools Day Prank (which involved looping the fairly enjoyable Season 3 premiere until midnight)...then when I found out they where gonna spam it the weekdays following the prank at 10pm/9c made me think this stunt went too far and seemed like an unnecessary blow and even [[FandomRivalry made a number of my fellow SM fans turn against this show]]; in other words, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero nice job breaking the peaceful bond between two awesome fandoms, Adult Swim!]] (Although, I gotta thank you guys for letting us know for sure that this show is gonna officially return this [[AccidentalPun Summer]].)

** TheToonamiRose: Being a fan of this show and ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', I felt mixed about the new episode of the latter getting unexpectedly pushed back to next week in favor of Adult Swim's 2017 April Fools Day Prank (which involved looping the fairly enjoyable Season 3 premiere until midnight)...then when I found out they where gonna spam it the weekdays following the prank at 10pm/9c made me think this stunt went too far and seemed like an unnecessary blow and even [[FandomRivalry made a number of my fellow SM fans turn against this show]]; in other words, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero nice job breaking the peaceful bond between two awesome fandoms, Adult Swim!]] (Although, I gotta thank you guys for letting us know for sure that this show is gonna officially return this [[AccidentalPun Summer]].)

* TheToonamiRose: Being a fan of this show and ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', I felt mixed about the new episode of the latter getting unexpectedly pushed back to next week in favor of Adult Swim's 2017 April Fools Day Prank (which involved looping the fairly enjoyable Season 3 premiere until midnight)...then when I found out they where gonna spam it the weekdays following the prank at 10pm/9c made me think this stunt went too far and seemed like an unnecessary blow and even [[FandomRivalry made a number of my fellow SM fans turn against this show]]; in other words, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero nice job breaking the peaceful bond between two awesome fandoms, Adult Swim!]] (Although, I gotta thank you guys for letting us know for sure that this show is gonna officially return this [[AccidentalPun Summer]].)

* Tropers/{{TommyTiger}}: I have a bad opinion of WesternAnimation/SausageParty, perhaps even worse than most people's opinion of Disney/ChickenLittle [[note]]which I like, by the way[[/note]]. And I hate it because of [[NightmareFuel the scene where Camille Toh prepares her meal]]. This is what happened: I was channel surfing, when suddenly I came across a montage of happenings so violent even TheSimpsons and SouthPark aren't as violent as this. The potato getting [[FlayingAlive peeled]] and boiled alive got me to cringe. The tomato getting cut in half made me shiver. The bacon strips getting fried (where [[EyeScream the eye of one pops]]) made my stomach start to get nervous. The lettuce getting its eyes gouged out and getting torn in half made me want to leave the room screaming. The bread getting cut made me get ready to throw up. The cheese getting grated to death finally made me puke. The nachos getting microwaved made me puke more. The bottle of wine getting opened made me puke even more. The baby carrots getting [[EatenAlive chewed to death]] made my mouth regurgitate 60% puke. Sadly, I couldn't leave because my baby cousin was sitting on my laps (and before you ask, no, I was covering his eyes so he wouldn't see such violent things). The remote control was also out of batteries so I couldn't change the channel either. And so I was forced to watch a two-minute long horror movie. [[BrainBleach I'm still trying to forget this]]. Now for someone who hasn't even flinched at [[SpongeBobSquarePants House Fancy]] and [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Peter Problems]], I get sick if this. This, along with the food orgy at the end, make this a completely [[DudeNotFunny unfunny]] film.