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!!!Captain America: Winter Soldier

* h31r-of-l1f3:I think what's worse is the studios lack of understanding that Thor is magic. If I wanted one with science, I'd watch Ant-man or Iron Man. Thor is a god with a hammer that controls weather and he can fly with if he spins it fast. This is best shown with the hot garbage of the dark elves assault on Asgard. I honestly thought StarWars was on, with the lasers and shields. It's not like magic does not exist in Marvel, Doctor Strange pulled off witchcraft. Thor is magic, not science. smaller problem, but why did Jane know the medical device being used on her? She studies space, not medical technology. You may as well have Pepper Pots tell Doctor Strange what spells to use.

* cricri3007: The New York fight scene, or, as I call it: "The clusterfuck of so many trippy special effects I can't see who is doing what until the very last two minutes of the fight". There is VisualEffectsOfAwesome, and there's such a thing as too much of it.

** MrReviser121: Good news! [[spoiler: He's NOT the real Mandarin]].

* hank412: I have trouble finding a single moment that pissed me off in a movie full of moments that pissed me off. Though, if I had to pick one, it would be where all my problems with the movie first began, the first snowball that someone threw down the snowy hill: The moment when Cap tells Tony that he tore the Avengers apart by signing the accords. Great job on reminding me that the accords were in this movie, because I had pretty much forgot. Though, that’s probably because it was this moment that I realized the film pretty much paid lip service to them, but it was still going to act like they’re the driving force behind everything when they clearly aren’t. It was a moment where it felt like the movie was completely insulting my intelligence as a viewer. Something like that goes beyond a few plot holes or inept storytelling. The moment when this film thought it could get away with treating its audience as anything less than equal is truly a DMoS.

!!!Captain America: Civil War
* hank412: The whole movie. I had never seen a movie that felt so condescending and just so inept at storytelling. The whole just seemed to act like it was leagues smarter than it actually was. No, you aren't going to trick me into thinking that the movie isn't called Civil War. No, you aren't going to trick me into thinking that you actually did something with the accords instead of just talking about it for two scenes. This movie talks big about tackling the consequences of the big 3rd act destruction and then does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it aside from ONE conversation. I could have looked past the narrative problems it has, I could've looked past its villain, I could've looked past how this movie didn't have the slightest impact on the MCU, I could've forgiven the lack of emotion throughout 90% of the movie, I could've looked past the fact that this film made me hate almost all of the characters in it, I could've looked past almost all the problems, but I cannot forgive a movie that seemed to just insult my intelligence at every moment.

* DoctorSleep: Starting from just a trailer, there's a scene where Scott Lang is goading Hope into showing him how to punch. Hope responds by punching him right in the face. You don't have to picture that moment with the genders reversed, because that exact same thing happened in the comics when Hank Pym smacked his wife. By playing a woman bashing a man as a punchline when the opposite is considered abhorrent just shows how low Marvel Studios is willing to sink for the sake of a joke. No wonder they lost a comedic craftsman like Edgar Wright. By the time the movie is released, it only gets worse with Hope ultimately ending up with Scott in the end. Iron Man had Tony and Pepper take things slow. Thor, Captain America and The Incredible Hulk ended with the heroes not getting with their love interests due to their overwhelming responsibilities. Ant-Man ends with Scott falling for the woman who attacked him simply because she's there. Way to speak out against domestic violence.

!!!The Avengers
* Tropers/TimeLordVictorious: I grew to dislike this movie after rewatching it several times. Loki was sympathetic in Thor, but here he gets the {{Narm}}iest of lines, and comes off like a whiny jerkass. The Black Widow/Hawkeye subplot makes no sense, as it isn't elaborated upon in future installments, there are some moments which serve no purpose to the plot, and the conclusion was far from satisfying. I usually like most Marvel movies, but this one is my least favorite, save for its sequel.

* Tropers/TimeLordVictorious: I grew to dislike this movie after rewatching it several times. Loki was sympathetic in Thor, but here he gets the {{Narm]]iest of lines, and comes off like a whiny jerkass. The Black Widow/Hawkeye subplot makes no sense, as it isn't elaborated upon in future installments, there are some moments which serve no purpose to the plot, and the conclusion was far from satisfying. I usually like most Marvel movies, but this one is my least favorite, save for its sequel.

* Tropers/TimeLordVictorious: I grew to dislike this movie after rewatching it several times. Loki was sympathetic in Thor, but here he gets the [[Narm Narmiest]] of lines, and comes off like a whiny jerkass. The Black Widow/Hawkeye subplot makes no sense, as it isn't elaborated upon in future installments, there are some moments which serve no purpose to the plot, and the conclusion was far from satisfying. I usually like most Marvel movies, but this one is my least favorite, save for its sequel.

* Tropers/TimeLordVictorious: I grew to dislike this movie after rewatching it several times. Loki was sympathetic in Thor, but here he gets the {{Narm Narmiest}} of lines, and comes off like a whiny jerkass. The Black Widow/Hawkeye subplot makes no sense, as it isn't elaborated upon in future installments, there are some moments which serve no purpose to the plot, and the conclusion was far from satisfying. I usually like most Marvel movies, but this one is my least favorite, save for its sequel.

* Tropers/TimeLordVictorious: I grew to dislike this movie after rewatching it several times. Loki was sympathetic in Thor, but here he gets the {{Main/Narm Narmiest}} of lines, and comes off like a whiny jerkass. The Black Widow/Hawkeye subplot makes no sense, as it isn't elaborated upon in future installments, there are some moments which serve no purpose to the plot, and the conclusion was far from satisfying. I usually like most Marvel movies, but this one is my least favorite, save for its sequel.

* Tropers/TimeLordVictorious: I grew to dislike this movie after rewatching it several times. Loki was sympathetic in Thor, but here he gets the [[Main/Narm Narmiest]] of lines, and comes off like a whiny jerkass. The Black Widow/Hawkeye subplot makes no sense, as it isn't elaborated upon in future installments, there are some moments which serve no purpose to the plot, and the conclusion was far from satisfying. I usually like most Marvel movies, but this one is my least favorite, save for its sequel.

* Retloclive: For me, the first Captain America is a fun 40s era movie that Joe Johnston really knows how to get that era down after he did the Rocketeer movie. However, one thing that really bugs me about this movie was [[{{Montages}} condensing Cap's mission to take down the HYDRA bases into a brief montage]]. Was it too much to ask to spare just a couple more minutes to extend the destruction of the HYDRA facilities? The movie spends a great deal building up the hero to kick some major butt, and yet they completely skip over it just so we could get to the final battle quicker.

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[[caption-width-right:350:I didn't want to become the ruler of Asgard for this...]]

* Ninja857142: The movie was actually a pretty good, and underrated, in my opinion. I think people just [[ToughActToFollow raised their expectations way too high.]] However, my moment is when Scarlet Witch brainwashes Bruce Banner. Seriously? [[IdiotBall Right beside a populated city with thousands of civilians? What was she thinking?]] How many people did she injure or even kill by doing that? She and Quicksilver could have just left him alone. Honestly, she comes off as [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic very unsympathetic to me]]; I can hardly blame Banner for trying to strangle her later. [[TearJerker Can you imagine how much undeserved guilt the guy is going through?]] As far as he knows, he's attacking a mind-manipulating murderer who coincidentally started the entire conflict in the first place.

* [=RedHudsonicus=]: Adding to the previous example, we have Operation Paperclip. Operation Paperclip was "the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program in which over 1,500 German scientists, technicians, and engineers from Nazi Germany and other foreign countries were brought to the United States for employment in the aftermath of World War II." And Zola had cooperated with the SSR leading to the thwarting of Red Skull's plan. Given that he also managed to at least partially re-create the effects of the super soldier serum in [[spoiler: Bucky]], he'd be a prime candidate. Moreover, the film never establishes that it was Peggy Cater and/or Howard Stark specifically that recruited him -- he was already in SSR hands before SHIELD's formation.

* [=RedHudsonicus=]: Adding to the previous example, we have Operation Paperclip. "Operation Paperclip was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program in which over 1,500 German scientists, technicians, and engineers from Nazi Germany and other foreign countries were brought to the United States for employment in the aftermath of World War II." And Zola had cooperated with the SSR leading to the thwarting of Red Skull's plan. Given that he also managed to at least partially re-create the effects of the super soldier serum in [[spoiler: Bucky]], he'd be a prime candidate. Moreover, the film never establishes that it was Peggy Cater and/or Howard Stark specifically that recruited him -- he was already in SSR hands before SHIELD's formation.

* Miracle @ St. Olaf: My issue is related to the minions of the BigBad. The men and women our heroes are taking on happen to be U.S. Military vets who were treated with Extremis to regrow limbs they lost in combat, and yet are all willing and eager to slaughter their own countrymen through terrorist attacks in exchange for job security. The Mandarin's RaceLift was very obviously done to avoid offending part of the audience, and way to go on that, but how did nobody involved consider that making his evil henchmen wounded U.S. soldiers just might be even more offensive to a lot of viewers?