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5th Jun '16 3:57:55 PM nombretomado
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* @/MacPhisto: The much anticipated "[[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Rocky Horror]] Series/{{Glee}} [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Show]]" in general for [[{{Bowdlerise}} many]], [[MoralGuardians many]] reasons. But special mention goes to the BrokenAesop at the end, which came with many UnfortunateImplications (it's okay to be different, just as long as you don't do it in a way where normal people can see you).
** bobdrantz: I also disliked the "[[RockyHorrorPictureShow Rocky Horror]] Glee Show". However, my reason for disliking it is because it's quite possibly the worst "tribute" (inasmuch as it barely has the right to be called one) for one of the biggest cult films of all time. For one thing, the casting is all wrong--among other things, [[VillainousCrossdresser Frank N. Furter]] is played by a [[GenderFlip female]], with no attempt to make her look androgynous, and her acting was bad. Second, the song lyrics are so [[{{Bowdlerize}} heavily edited]] as to lose anything resembling a point.

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* @/MacPhisto: The much anticipated "[[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow "[[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Rocky Horror]] Series/{{Glee}} [[TheRockyHorrorPictureShow [[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Show]]" in general for [[{{Bowdlerise}} many]], [[MoralGuardians many]] reasons. But special mention goes to the BrokenAesop at the end, which came with many UnfortunateImplications (it's okay to be different, just as long as you don't do it in a way where normal people can see you).
** bobdrantz: I also disliked the "[[RockyHorrorPictureShow "[[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Rocky Horror]] Glee Show". However, my reason for disliking it is because it's quite possibly the worst "tribute" (inasmuch as it barely has the right to be called one) for one of the biggest cult films of all time. For one thing, the casting is all wrong--among other things, [[VillainousCrossdresser Frank N. Furter]] is played by a [[GenderFlip female]], with no attempt to make her look androgynous, and her acting was bad. Second, the song lyrics are so [[{{Bowdlerize}} heavily edited]] as to lose anything resembling a point.
18th Mar '16 10:14:15 PM JoSilv
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** @/JoSilv: I couldn't agree with this any more. What's even worse is at a convention, a fan addressed the cast and creator Ryan Murphy about this very issue and both Murphy AND Chris Colfer DEFENDED Kurt, saying "We all make mistakes when young and in love". Very true, but the lengths Kurt goes to try and force a relationship is downright disturbing and could very well have gotten a restraining order pulled against him. This troper might have found SOME small solace or found some salvation for this episode if the episode's tone had any hint of a feeling that Finn wasn't completely and entirely in the wrong. Instead, the episode leaves Finn having to be the one having to prove himself to Kurt. It ends up feeling like a hollow "give them what they want" gesture when the next season gives a couple short scenes of Finn and Kurt's father telling him that he went too far in his pursuit, with Kurt STILL insisting Finn was in the wrong.
30th Sep '15 4:02:23 AM LahmacunKebab
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** @/NumberOfTheDalek: Even worse was that the episode culminated in them finally having sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually gay myself, but throughout the episode we watch Kurt consider his options (if he had any) about consummating his relationship with Blaine for once and for all, and even the attempted Rape Is OK When It's Male On Male bit he has he decency to shove Blaine off, but finally agreeing to do it for the first time just showed that Kurt is exactly who his detractors are -- a helpless Queenie bitch who only exists as a slave to Blaine.

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** @/NumberOfTheDalek: Even worse was that the episode culminated in them finally having sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually gay myself, but throughout the episode we watch Kurt consider his options (if he had any) about consummating his relationship with Blaine for once and for all, and even the attempted Rape Is OK When It's Male On Male bit he has he the decency to shove Blaine off, but finally agreeing to do it for the first time just showed that Kurt is exactly who his detractors are -- a helpless Queenie bitch who only exists as a slave to Blaine.
30th Sep '15 4:00:28 AM LahmacunKebab
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* @/HawkOfCoul: The final blow... erasing a character's existence in 'Big Brother', not even mentioning [[StraightGay Dave Karofsky]] after he had an important plotline in the earlier two episodes that was left hanging so we could suffer through... erm, [[SarcasmMode enjoy]] Blaine's utter murder of ChristinaAguilera's 'Fighter' and whine about TheOneTime his brother stole his Action Man. From then on, it was clear that this show was not going to be Glee anymore. No, it was gonna be 'Blee', where everybody shills on how [[CreatorsPet Blaine is the bestest person who ever lived and is justified even when he]] [[YourCheatingHeart cheats on his long-suffering boyfriend]] because [[ItsAllAboutMe he felt Kurt hadn't paid enough attention to him]], and blaming him for it, then starts becoming creepier by the second, culminating in [[WhatAnIdiot a proposal]] in order to get his boyfriend back into his clutches... [[FreudianSlip erm]], I meant arms forever. ''Series/{{Glee}}'' is seriously claiming that [[InsaneTrollLogic the worse your boyfriend is, the more he loves you]]!
** @/NumberOfTheDalek: Even worse was that the episode culminated in them finally having sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually gay myself, but throughout the episode we watch Kurt consider his options (if he had any) about consummating his relationship with Blaine for once and for all, and even the attempted RapeIsOKWhenItsMaleOnMale bit he has he decency to shove Blaine off, but finally agreeing to do it for the first time just showed that Kurt is exactly who his detractors are -- a helpless Queenie bitch who only exists as a slave to Blaine.

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* @/HawkOfCoul: The final blow... erasing a character's existence in 'Big Brother', not even mentioning [[StraightGay Dave Karofsky]] after he had an important plotline in the earlier two episodes that was left hanging so we could suffer through... erm, [[SarcasmMode enjoy]] Blaine's utter murder of ChristinaAguilera's 'Fighter' and whine about TheOneTime The One Time his brother stole his Action Man. From then on, it was clear that this show was not going to be Glee anymore. No, it was gonna be 'Blee', where everybody shills on how [[CreatorsPet Blaine is the bestest person who ever lived and is justified even when he]] [[YourCheatingHeart cheats on his long-suffering boyfriend]] because [[ItsAllAboutMe he felt Kurt hadn't paid enough attention to him]], and blaming him for it, then starts becoming creepier by the second, culminating in [[WhatAnIdiot a proposal]] in order to get his boyfriend back into his clutches... [[FreudianSlip erm]], I meant arms forever. ''Series/{{Glee}}'' is seriously claiming that [[InsaneTrollLogic the worse your boyfriend is, the more he loves you]]!
** @/NumberOfTheDalek: Even worse was that the episode culminated in them finally having sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually gay myself, but throughout the episode we watch Kurt consider his options (if he had any) about consummating his relationship with Blaine for once and for all, and even the attempted RapeIsOKWhenItsMaleOnMale Rape Is OK When It's Male On Male bit he has he decency to shove Blaine off, but finally agreeing to do it for the first time just showed that Kurt is exactly who his detractors are -- a helpless Queenie bitch who only exists as a slave to Blaine.
30th Sep '15 2:39:57 AM LahmacunKebab
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* @/{{Capretty}}: "Brittany/Britney". The episode was the first sign of ''Series/{{Glee}}'' revealing they only cared about commercialism now. The episode only came about because Power of Madonna had been a success the last season. The episode had a successful music video of Sue Sylvester doing Vogue so they decided to do three music videos within the first half hour for hope at another meme, including a recreation of the Iconic "...Baby One More Time" video, this time starring their lead actress. Oh, and did I mention that these three videos had nothing to do with plot and were unbelievably boring. Meanwhile they were also just trying to get more memes by pushing Brittany to the foreground since her dialogue tends to be a FountainOfMemes. However they gave her so many funny lines that after awhile you just don't care anymore. It's a real shame since her actress is very talented and is trying so hard for her character not to be driven into the ground. Meanwhile the subplots revolving around the Finn/Rachel and Will/Emma romances make Rachel and Will so unlikable it equals a huge case of WhatDoesSheSeeInHim for both Finn and Emma.

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* @/{{Capretty}}: "Brittany/Britney". The episode was the first sign of ''Series/{{Glee}}'' revealing they only cared about commercialism now. The episode only came about because Power of Madonna had been a success the last season. The episode had a successful music video of Sue Sylvester doing Vogue so they decided to do three music videos within the first half hour for hope at another meme, including a recreation of the Iconic "... Baby One More Time" video, this time starring their lead actress. Oh, and did I mention that these three videos had nothing to do with plot and were unbelievably boring. Meanwhile they were also just trying to get more memes by pushing Brittany to the foreground since her dialogue tends to be a FountainOfMemes. However they gave her so many funny lines that after awhile you just don't care anymore. It's a real shame since her actress is very talented and is trying so hard for her character not to be driven into the ground. Meanwhile the subplots revolving around the Finn/Rachel and Will/Emma romances make Rachel and Will so unlikable it equals a huge case of WhatDoesSheSeeInHim for both Finn and Emma.
1st Sep '15 2:54:27 AM Kitchen90
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28th Aug '15 9:22:06 AM Kitchen90
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* @/ArchdukeCthulhu: The Superbowl after-show did it for me. The football team are [[TheScrappy all scrappies]]. There's no way to change that. You can't polish a turd and call it something nice. They're annoying, one dimensional bullies this side of a Creator/StephenKing novel and there's no way they should be given spotlight unless its for character development, which no way happens here.

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* @/ArchdukeCthulhu: The Superbowl after-show did it for me. The football team are [[TheScrappy all scrappies]]. There's no way to change that. You can't polish a turd and call it something nice. They're annoying, one dimensional bullies this side of a Creator/StephenKing novel and there's no way they should be given spotlight unless its it's for character development, which no way happens here.



** @/{{Kitchen90}}: I agree with this point. On top of that, considering that Brittany -- Santana's best friend, [[ThoseTwoGirls right-hand girl]] and one of the only characters that [[FriendsWithBenefits shared rather close intimacy with her more than once]] -- is not really in most of the drama, considering she was named by Finn as Santana's crush when he outed her. All Brittany does is defend her when she and the rest of the female side of the glee club catch a homophobic jock telling Santana that she's "confused" and "hasn't found the right guy". I get that she was busy with her class presidency campaign, but it would be nice to see a little moment between them, and all is seen is Santana kissing her cheek in the background of Jacob's internet video recordings. In addition to this, I found the entire point that Santana was terrified and uncomfortable with everyone knowing her sexual orientation rather overlooked, and I felt like the show treated it like it was no big deal. She spent most of her time after the outing mortified because she feared what everyone would think, including her family -- much like many teenagers that find out they aren't heterosexual -- then after the song of the episode was sung by the female side of the group, she just simply tells the room that she came out to her parents [[ItsALongStory "last night" and they "were fine" with her lesbianism]]. Talk about {{handwave}}, methinks. She mightn't have told her [[RacistGrandma ignorant grandmother]] yet, but that felt like [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot a waste of a plot point]], considering that her parents would be "fine with it", and was also a middle finger to the viewers because they never saw what the episode was (supposedly) building up to.

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** @/{{Kitchen90}}: I agree with this point. On top of that, considering that Brittany -- Santana's best friend, [[ThoseTwoGirls right-hand girl]] and one of the only characters that [[FriendsWithBenefits shared rather close intimacy with her more than once]] -- is not really in most of the drama, considering she was named by Finn as Santana's crush when he outed her. All Brittany does is defend her when she and the rest of the female side of the glee club catch a homophobic jock telling Santana that she's "confused" and "hasn't found the right guy". I get that she was busy with her class presidency campaign, but it would be nice to see a little moment between them, and all is seen that's shown is Santana kissing her cheek in the background of Jacob's internet video recordings. In addition to this, I found the entire point that Santana was terrified and uncomfortable with everyone knowing her sexual orientation rather overlooked, and I felt like the show treated it like it was no big deal. She spent most of her time after the outing mortified because she feared what everyone would think, including her family -- [[TruthInTelevision much like many teenagers that find out they aren't heterosexual heterosexual]] -- then after the song of the episode was sung by the female side of the group, she just simply tells the room that she came out to her parents [[ItsALongStory "last night" and they "were fine" with her lesbianism]]. Talk about {{handwave}}, methinks. She mightn't have told her [[RacistGrandma ignorant homophobic grandmother]] yet, but that felt like [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot a waste of a plot point]], considering that her parents would be "fine with it", and was also a middle finger to the viewers because they never saw what the episode was (supposedly) building up to.



* @/{{SMARTALIENQT}}: I stopped watching regularly as early as "Blame it on the Alcohol", for one reason: Blaine's subplot. Or rather, Kurt's interpretation of Blaine's subplot. The line about how being bi is just an excuse for gay guys to fit in was really, really hurtful to me and other bi people that I know, and Blaine (rightfully) calls him out on it. But at the end, Kurt's proved right. Blaine wasn't bi, the kiss was him being drunk and stupid, and we are again left with no bisexual characters at all except for Brittany (and it's kind of implied that Brittany's not actually bi, she's just really stupid and willing to sleep with anyone who asks).

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* @/{{SMARTALIENQT}}: I stopped watching regularly as early as "Blame it on the Alcohol", for one reason: Blaine's subplot. Or rather, Kurt's interpretation of Blaine's subplot. The line about how [[NoBisexuals being bi is just an excuse for gay guys to fit in in]] was really, really hurtful to me and other bi people that I know, and Blaine (rightfully) calls him out on it. But at the end, Kurt's proved right. Blaine wasn't bi, the kiss was him being drunk and stupid, and we are again left with no bisexual characters at all except for Brittany (and it's kind of implied that Brittany's not actually bi, she's just really stupid and [[AnythingThatMoves willing to sleep with anyone who asks).asks]]).



* Gone Rampant: If "This entire season", was an option, Season 4 would probably have taken up half the page- but one plot in particular stands out: Marley's eating disorder. She gets it because Kitty says one thing to her, never decides to check weight scales, her own goddamn mother doesn't notice, and during the aforementioned Gangnam Style number, she passes out. As a troper who went through his teens with bulimia, this is just insulting to me and to everyone I know who's had it or is going through- and with this and all the racism and discrimination, the fact that this show hasn't been pulled off the air yet is just a big slap in the face to everyone who's a realist and know this show is a horrible mess full of monsters, with the biggest Hypocrite Ryan Murphy leading the charge, who said the show was for everyone, proving how much of a lying, sick bastard he is.
* Highwaystonowhere: As much as I love ''Series/{{Glee}}'', I don't like the mistreatment of [[DemotedToExtra Tina Cohen Chang.]] She's not my favorite character, but in season 2 they pushed her to the sidelines when she had the potential to really evolve as a character and in season 4 she underwent serious {{characterderailment}} and is suddenly a horrible person for no apparent reason, when just last year she was the sweet, real underdog of Glee. It seems unfair seeing as Jenna Ushkowitz is so talented and has worked just as hard for just as long on set as the rest of the cast, yet her character is constantly getting screwed over.

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* Gone Rampant: If "This entire season", was an option, Season 4 would probably have taken up half the page- page -- but one plot in particular stands out: Marley's eating disorder. She gets it because Kitty says one thing to her, never decides to check weight scales, her own goddamn mother doesn't notice, and during the aforementioned Gangnam Style number, she passes out. As a troper who went through his teens with bulimia, this is just insulting to me and to everyone I know who's had it or is going through- through -- and with this and all the racism and discrimination, the fact that this show hasn't been pulled off the air yet is just a big slap in the face to everyone who's a realist and know this show is a horrible mess full of monsters, with the biggest Hypocrite hypocrite Ryan Murphy leading the charge, who said the show was for everyone, proving how much of a lying, sick bastard he is.
* Highwaystonowhere: As much as I love ''Series/{{Glee}}'', I don't like the mistreatment of [[DemotedToExtra Tina Cohen Chang.]] She's not my favorite character, but in season 2 they pushed her to the sidelines when she had the potential to really evolve as a character and in season 4 she underwent serious {{characterderailment}} {{character derailment}} and is suddenly a horrible person for no apparent reason, when just last year she was the sweet, real underdog of Glee. It seems unfair seeing as Jenna Ushkowitz is so talented and has worked just as hard for just as long on set as the rest of the cast, yet her character is constantly getting screwed over.



* @/AryaAdrianiel: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' has been a hugely guilty pleasure for me for a couple of months. I hated most of the characters, I thought the plot lines were kind of stupid, but there was something that kept me coming back every week. I may have seen them as being mindless entertainment, but I never really hated an episode. Until now. It was "I Do" that did it for me. Everything about that episode... it just really rubbed me the wrong way. I think that it was mainly all of the hookups. I mean, sure, it wasn't really cheating or anything for any of them (what's with all the open relationships all of a sudden?), but to me it just felt like an excuse to get as many of the old couples back together and get as many couples in general having sex.
* @/MewLettuceRush: Originally, my DMOS was "I Do", but I then realized the show died for me earlier starting in "The New Rachel". I was excited about this season, mainly because Tina, my favorite character, would be [[ADayInTheLimelight getting the spotlight]] -- especially since in "Props", she was promised to be in charge of the glee club by Rachel. I felt like I was watching the wrong show; not only does she not get it, but it goes to Mr-perfect-Marty-Stu Blaine, so I literally was psyched for nothing. On top of that, not only is she pushed into the sidelines (again) in favor of the "Blaine and Rachel" show, but when she finally gets the spotlight again (ten episodes later), it's to be a cardboard cutout Blaine stand. This was the nail in the coffin for me and I haven't looked back.
* @/HawkOfCoul: The final blow... erasing a character's existence in 'Big Brother', not even mentioning [[StraightGay Dave Karofsky]] after he had an important plotline in the earlier two episodes that was left hanging so we could suffer through... erm, [[SarcasmMode enjoy]] Blaine's utter murder of ChristinaAguilera's 'Fighter' and whine about TheOneTime his brother stole his Action Man. From then on, it was clear that this show was not going to be Glee anymore. No, it was gonna be 'Blee', where everybody shills on how [[CreatorsPet Blaine is the bestest person who ever lived and is justified even when he]] [[YourCheatingHeart cheats on his long-suffering boyfriend]] because [[ItsAllAboutMe he felt Kurt hadn't paid enough attention to him]], and blaming him for it, then starts becoming creepier by the second, culminating in [[WhatAnIdiot a proposal]] in order to get his boyfriend back into his clutches... erm, I meant arms forever. ''Series/{{Glee}}'' is seriously claiming that [[InsaneTrollLogic the worse your boyfriend is, the more he loves you]]!
** @/NumberOfTheDalek: Even worse was that the episode culminated in them finally having sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually gay myself, but throughout the episode we watch Kurt consider his options (if he had any) about consummating his relationship with Blaine for once and for all, and even the attempted RapeIsOKWhenItsMaleOnMale bit he has he decency to shove Blaine off, but finally agreeing to do it for the first time just showed that Kurt is exactly who his detractors are- a helpless Queenie bitch who only exists as a slave to Blaine.

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* @/AryaAdrianiel: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' has been a hugely huge guilty pleasure for me for a couple of months. I hated most of the characters, I thought the plot lines were kind of stupid, but there was something that kept me coming back every week. I may have seen them as being mindless entertainment, but I never really hated an episode. Until now. It was "I Do" that did it for me. Everything about that episode... it just really rubbed me the wrong way. I think that it was mainly all of the hookups. I mean, sure, it wasn't really cheating or anything for any of them (what's with all the open relationships all of a sudden?), but to me it just felt like an excuse to get as many of the old couples back together and get as many couples in general having sex.
* @/MewLettuceRush: Originally, my DMOS was "I Do", but I then realized the show died for me earlier starting in "The New Rachel". I was excited about this season, mainly because Tina, my favorite character, would be [[ADayInTheLimelight getting the spotlight]] -- especially since in "Props", she was promised to be in charge of the glee club by Rachel. I felt like I was watching the wrong show; show -- not only does she not get it, but it goes to Mr-perfect-Marty-Stu Blaine, who I think was getting too much season focus already, so I literally was psyched for nothing. On top of that, not only is she pushed into the sidelines (again) in favor of the "Blaine and Rachel" show, but when she finally gets the spotlight again (ten episodes later), it's to be a cardboard cutout Blaine stand. This was the nail in the coffin for me and I haven't looked back.
* @/HawkOfCoul: The final blow... erasing a character's existence in 'Big Brother', not even mentioning [[StraightGay Dave Karofsky]] after he had an important plotline in the earlier two episodes that was left hanging so we could suffer through... erm, [[SarcasmMode enjoy]] Blaine's utter murder of ChristinaAguilera's 'Fighter' and whine about TheOneTime his brother stole his Action Man. From then on, it was clear that this show was not going to be Glee anymore. No, it was gonna be 'Blee', where everybody shills on how [[CreatorsPet Blaine is the bestest person who ever lived and is justified even when he]] [[YourCheatingHeart cheats on his long-suffering boyfriend]] because [[ItsAllAboutMe he felt Kurt hadn't paid enough attention to him]], and blaming him for it, then starts becoming creepier by the second, culminating in [[WhatAnIdiot a proposal]] in order to get his boyfriend back into his clutches... erm, [[FreudianSlip erm]], I meant arms forever. ''Series/{{Glee}}'' is seriously claiming that [[InsaneTrollLogic the worse your boyfriend is, the more he loves you]]!
** @/NumberOfTheDalek: Even worse was that the episode culminated in them finally having sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually gay myself, but throughout the episode we watch Kurt consider his options (if he had any) about consummating his relationship with Blaine for once and for all, and even the attempted RapeIsOKWhenItsMaleOnMale bit he has he decency to shove Blaine off, but finally agreeing to do it for the first time just showed that Kurt is exactly who his detractors are- are -- a helpless Queenie bitch who only exists as a slave to Blaine.



* [=SharkToast=]: My DMOS had to be "The Break-Up". Now I thought this was a good episode, except for the subplot revolving around the Jake/Marley/Kitty love triangle. Not only are the characters clones of Puck, Rachel, and Quinn, but they lack any of the traits that made them interesting. Marley lacks any of Rachel's [[PossessionSue negative qualities]], while Kitty lacks Quinn's [[RonTheDeathEater positive qualities]]. Jake is basically [[DracoInLeatherPants Puck in leather pants]]. I always thought these characters were inspired by fan fiction, and "The Break-Up" proved it.
* @/SwimToTheMoon: I began watching the show less interested in it as early as "A Very Glee Christmas". In particular, "Baby It's Cold Outside" seemed to have no place in the show and only seemed to serve the purpose of pandering to the shippers. That was the first sign that that was all Ryan Murphy cared about was pandering to the shippers, but as the show went on and up to "The Break-Up", that's when it was clear to me that Ryan Murohy only seems interested in turning the show into "Blee", and trying to justify Blaine's cheating on Kurt was just the nail in the coffin.

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* [=SharkToast=]: My DMOS [=DMoS=] had to be "The Break-Up". Now I thought this was a good episode, except for the subplot revolving around the Jake/Marley/Kitty love triangle. {{love triangle}}. Not only are the [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute characters clones of Puck, Rachel, and Quinn, Quinn]], but they lack any of the traits that made them interesting. Marley lacks any of Rachel's [[PossessionSue negative qualities]], while Kitty lacks Quinn's [[RonTheDeathEater positive qualities]]. Jake is basically [[DracoInLeatherPants Puck in leather pants]]. I always thought these characters were inspired by fan fiction, and "The Break-Up" proved it.
* @/SwimToTheMoon: I began watching the show less interested in it as early as "A Very Glee Christmas". In particular, "Baby It's Cold Outside" seemed to have no place in the show and only seemed to serve the purpose of pandering to the shippers. That was the first sign that that was all Ryan Murphy cared about was pandering to the shippers, but as the show went on and up to "The Break-Up", that's when it was clear to me that Ryan Murohy Murphy only seems interested in turning the show into "Blee", and trying to justify Blaine's cheating on Kurt was just the nail in the coffin.



* Animeking1108: The very first episode has one. Will thinks that Finn is perfect for the Glee Club, but he refuses to join. So, how does Will convince him to join? [[DesignatedHero He plants drugs on him and threatens to report him for possession]]. While Finn points out that he'll take a drug test, Will points out that even just getting accused of having drugs will mess up his chances for a good college. So, basically, Will threatens to ruin Finn's life just to get him to join the Glee club. Why in the four years Finn was [[spoiler: alive on this show]] did he not consider suing Will for such an underhanded tactic? I really hope that one day, the principle finds out about this and fires his ass.

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* Animeking1108: The very first episode has one. Will thinks that Finn is perfect for the Glee Club, but he refuses to join. So, how does Will convince him to join? [[DesignatedHero He plants drugs on him and threatens to report him for possession]]. While Finn points out that he'll take a drug test, Will points out that even just getting accused of having drugs will mess up his chances for a good college. So, basically, Will threatens to ruin Finn's life just to get him to join the Glee club. Why in the four years Finn was [[spoiler: alive [[spoiler:alive on this show]] did he not consider suing Will for such an underhanded tactic? I really hope that one day, the principle principal finds out about this and fires his ass.



* whiteowl82: There has been a lot of missed opportunities on this show, but “Lights Out” takes the cake in a very disturbing way. Ryder confesses his greatest secret to the Glee Club: when he was a kid, he was molested by his seventeen year-old babysitter. The girls and Will treat the revelation with the seriousness it deserves (and Marley comes up with that “his true isn’t your true” crap again), but Artie and Sam say that they don’t understand what the big deal is and that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale having sex with an older woman is a boy’s dream come true]]. A disgusting and really stupid assessment, but sadly realistic. This would have been an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot excellent opportunity to address a very serious issue]]: the male/female double standard when it comes to abuse. Will, being the teacher, should have really made an effort to explain to his students why abuse is always wrong, whether the victim is male or female. It would have been easy, just ask them “What if he was a girl and the babysitter was a boy?” and then explain that there really is no difference. Instead, what happens? Ryder, wanting to end the conversation, says that they’re right and that he was really lucky. And that’s it. That’s how this ends. Granted, in a later scene Kitty (of all people!) tells him that she understands how he feels because something similar happened to her, but still. The topic wasn’t treated with the depth and seriousness it deserved and that is something I find really, really upsetting.

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* whiteowl82: There has been a lot of missed opportunities on this show, but “Lights Out” takes the cake in a very disturbing way. Ryder confesses his greatest secret to the Glee Club: when he was a kid, he was molested by his seventeen year-old babysitter. The girls and Will treat the revelation with the seriousness it deserves (and Marley comes up with that “his true isn’t your true” crap again), but Artie and Sam say that they don’t understand what the big deal is and that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale having sex with an older woman is a boy’s dream come true]]. A disgusting and really stupid assessment, but sadly realistic.[[TruthInTelevision realistic]]. This would have been an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot excellent opportunity to address a very serious issue]]: the male/female double standard when it comes to abuse. Will, being the teacher, should have really made an effort to explain to his students why abuse is always wrong, whether the victim is male or female. It would have been easy, just ask them “What if he was a girl and the babysitter was a boy?” and then explain that there really is no difference. Instead, what happens? Ryder, wanting to end the conversation, says that they’re right and that he was really lucky. And that’s it. That’s how this ends. Granted, in a later scene Kitty (of all people!) tells him that she understands how he feels because something similar happened to her, but still. The topic wasn’t treated with the depth and seriousness it deserved and that is something I find really, really upsetting.
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* Me4JustinB: "Saturday Night Glee-ver" did it for me, it's the first episode I've ever hated. Copied from this troper's Tumblr: 1) Will Fucking Schuester. He missed the obvious train station of Appropriateness on his express train to None-Of-His-Business Town. You don't tell your students find a dream or else, you don't tell kids that their goal is not a dream, that's sad, and you don't make creepy wooden models of your students!. 2) Character derailment in general, and Rachel specifically. She goes from little miss Broadway-Or-Bust to Finn's personal satellite, and in the process, lost the one trait (her single-minded determination to achieve her dreams and her detailed plan) that actually made me like her. And for what? So the writers could shoehorn in a few shippy moments between her and Finn? 3) At last, Jesse's back... for one minute. I was so excited for his return, since he's my second favorite character, (not to mention all the hype behind it) and he got all of 60 seconds on screen.

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* Me4JustinB: [=Me4JustinB=]: "Saturday Night Glee-ver" did it for me, it's the first episode I've ever hated. Copied from this troper's Tumblr: 1) Will Fucking Schuester. He missed the obvious train station of Appropriateness on his express train to None-Of-His-Business Town. You don't tell your students find a dream or else, you don't tell kids that their goal is not a dream, that's sad, and you don't make creepy wooden models of your students!. 2) Character derailment in general, and Rachel specifically. She goes from little miss Broadway-Or-Bust to Finn's personal satellite, and in the process, lost the one trait (her single-minded determination to achieve her dreams and her detailed plan) that actually made me like her. And for what? So the writers could shoehorn in a few shippy moments between her and Finn? 3) At last, Jesse's back... for one minute. I was so excited for his return, since he's my second favorite character, (not to mention all the hype behind it) and he got all of 60 seconds on screen.



* SharkToast: My DMOS had to be "The Break-Up". Now I thought this was a good episode, except for the subplot revolving around the Jake/Marley/Kitty love triangle. Not only are the characters clones of Puck, Rachel, and Quinn, but they lack any of the traits that made them interesting. Marley lacks any of Rachel's [[PossessionSue negative qualities]], while Kitty lacks Quinn's [[RonTheDeathEater positive qualities]]. Jake is basically [[DracoInLeatherPants Puck in leather pants]]. I always thought these characters were inspired by fan fiction, and "The Break-Up" proved it.

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* SharkToast: [=SharkToast=]: My DMOS had to be "The Break-Up". Now I thought this was a good episode, except for the subplot revolving around the Jake/Marley/Kitty love triangle. Not only are the characters clones of Puck, Rachel, and Quinn, but they lack any of the traits that made them interesting. Marley lacks any of Rachel's [[PossessionSue negative qualities]], while Kitty lacks Quinn's [[RonTheDeathEater positive qualities]]. Jake is basically [[DracoInLeatherPants Puck in leather pants]]. I always thought these characters were inspired by fan fiction, and "The Break-Up" proved it.



* ThatIrishReader: Santana's UnfortunateImplications about bisexuals in "Tina in the Sky With Diamonds" was when I fully realized that season 5 was [[ThisIsGonnaSuck going to be terrible.]] Having recently fallen head over heels for cute co-worker Dani, Santana expresses nerves towards Rachel at the fact that this is her first real try at a relationship with a full-on lesbian. That hadn't bothered me so much until Santana says that she doesn't have to worry about a girlfriend "straying for penis". I cannot begin to express how inappropriate and ridiculous that statement was. It implies that just because bisexuals like both genders it makes them twice as likely to cheat on them which of course makes absolutely no sense. Another part in that this line completely throws Santana's and Brittany's relationship out the window just to make Dani appeal more to the viewers. And on another note, Santana herself broke up with Brittany, not the other way around. I really do not understand what this show has against bisexuals but it was completely unnecessary.
* whiteowl82: There has been a lot of missed opportunities on this show, but “Lights Out” takes the cake in a very disturbing way. Ryder confesses his greatest secret to the Glee Club: when he was a kid, he was molested by his seventeen year-old babysitter. The girls and Will treat the revelation with the seriousness it deserves (and Marley comes up with that “his true isn’t your true” crap again), but Artie and Sam say that they don’t understand what the big deal is and that having sex with an older woman is a boy’s dream come true. A disgusting and really stupid assessment, but sadly realistic. This would have been an excellent opportunity to address a very serious issue: the male/female double standard when it comes to abuse. Will, being the teacher, should have really made an effort to explain to his students why abuse is always wrong, whether the victim is male or female. It would have been easy, just ask them “What if he was a girl and the babysitter was a boy?” and then explain that there really is no difference. Instead, what happens? Ryder, wanting to end the conversation, says that they’re right and that he was really lucky. And that’s it. That’s how this ends. Granted, in a later scene Kitty (of all people!) tells him that she understands how he feels because something similar happened to her, but still. The topic wasn’t treated with the depth and seriousness it deserved and that is something I find really, really upsetting.
** shamblingdead here : Agreed, not just with that episode, but with the way Glee [[PlayedForLaughs handles]] sexual assault in general and women's sexuality as a sort of fallout. See the QuestionableConsent entry for the first season (Quinn getting pregnant because Puck got her drunk), but also Brittany's being "visited by aliens" (clearly someone sneaked into her tent at summer camp). Rachel's being afraid Jesse will be "mad at her" for not sleeping with him in Season One (not one person told her "Rachel, it's YOUR body and YOUR choice, and no one can get mad at you for that!"). Santana's solution of "I just never say no." The tremendous virgin-shaming that happens toward both Bieste and Emma in season 2 (particularly the "Sexy" episode) and 3 ("The First Time")...And finally, both Rachel and Emma giving up their virginity as a prize (in "The First Time" and "Nationals" respectively), either a consolation prize or a reward for doing something good. Jeez. For a show that seems to be trying so hard to be "sex positive," Glee really doesn't seem to know how to handle a woman's sexuality. "The First Time" and "Nationals" were really the Moment of Suck for this troper.
* kansaiwillow/willowsomething: Finn outing Santana. Yes, Santana was being a giant jerkass, but nothing deserves being dragged out of the closet and then having your sexuality used as a weapon against someone else. And how did the writers solve the issue? Not by having Finn apologize, but by having Finn and the boys in class sing a crappy version of "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" and poof! Santana magically forgives him. Nope. Just nope.
* @/PerfumePreppy: "New New York", full stop. After the move to New York, the show became nothing but an empty shell of what it used to be, and this episode is the primary exhibit of said metamorphosis. The remaining characters became caricatures of themselves, most of the musical numbers come across as completely pointless, and the alledged jokes can come across as obnoxious rather than entertaining.

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* ThatIrishReader: [=ThatIrishReader=]: Santana's UnfortunateImplications about bisexuals in "Tina in the Sky With Diamonds" was when I fully realized that season 5 was [[ThisIsGonnaSuck going to be terrible.]] Having recently fallen head over heels for cute co-worker Dani, Santana expresses nerves towards Rachel at the fact that this is her first real try at a relationship with a full-on lesbian. That hadn't bothered me so much until Santana says that she doesn't have to worry about a girlfriend "straying for penis". I cannot begin to express how inappropriate and ridiculous that statement was. It implies that just because bisexuals like both genders it makes them twice as likely to cheat on them which of course makes absolutely no sense. Another part in that this line completely throws Santana's and Brittany's relationship out the window just to make Dani appeal more to the viewers. And on another note, Santana herself broke up with Brittany, not the other way around. I really do not understand what this show has against bisexuals but it was completely unnecessary.
* whiteowl82: There has been a lot of missed opportunities on this show, but “Lights Out” takes the cake in a very disturbing way. Ryder confesses his greatest secret to the Glee Club: when he was a kid, he was molested by his seventeen year-old babysitter. The girls and Will treat the revelation with the seriousness it deserves (and Marley comes up with that “his true isn’t your true” crap again), but Artie and Sam say that they don’t understand what the big deal is and that [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale having sex with an older woman is a boy’s dream come true.true]]. A disgusting and really stupid assessment, but sadly realistic. This would have been an [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot excellent opportunity to address a very serious issue: issue]]: the male/female double standard when it comes to abuse. Will, being the teacher, should have really made an effort to explain to his students why abuse is always wrong, whether the victim is male or female. It would have been easy, just ask them “What if he was a girl and the babysitter was a boy?” and then explain that there really is no difference. Instead, what happens? Ryder, wanting to end the conversation, says that they’re right and that he was really lucky. And that’s it. That’s how this ends. Granted, in a later scene Kitty (of all people!) tells him that she understands how he feels because something similar happened to her, but still. The topic wasn’t treated with the depth and seriousness it deserved and that is something I find really, really upsetting.
** shamblingdead here : shamblingdead: Agreed, not just with that episode, but with the way Glee [[PlayedForLaughs handles]] sexual assault in general and women's sexuality as a sort of fallout. See the QuestionableConsent entry for the first season (Quinn getting pregnant because Puck got her drunk), but also Brittany's being "visited by aliens" (clearly someone sneaked into her tent at summer camp). Rachel's being afraid Jesse will be "mad at her" for not sleeping with him in Season One (not one person told her "Rachel, it's YOUR body and YOUR choice, and no one can get mad at you for that!"). Santana's solution of "I just never say no." The tremendous virgin-shaming that happens toward both Bieste and Emma in season 2 (particularly the "Sexy" episode) and 3 ("The First Time")... And finally, both Rachel and Emma giving up their virginity as a prize (in "The First Time" and "Nationals" respectively), either a consolation prize or a reward for doing something good. Jeez. For a show that seems to be trying so hard to be "sex positive," Glee really doesn't seem to know how to handle a woman's sexuality. "The First Time" and "Nationals" were really the Moment of Suck for this troper.
* kansaiwillow/willowsomething: Finn outing Santana. Yes, Santana was being a giant jerkass, {{jerkass}}, but nothing deserves being dragged out of the closet and then having your sexuality used as a weapon against someone else. And how did the writers solve the issue? Not by having Finn apologize, but by having Finn and the boys in class sing a crappy version of "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" and poof! Santana magically forgives him. [[NoJustNoReaction Nope. Just nope.
nope]].
* @/PerfumePreppy: "New New York", full stop. After the move to New York, the show became nothing but an empty shell of what it used to be, and this episode is the primary exhibit of said metamorphosis. The remaining characters became caricatures of themselves, most of the musical numbers come across as completely pointless, and the alledged jokes can come across as obnoxious rather than entertaining.entertaining.
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29th Jul '15 10:01:36 AM Kitchen90
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* @/AryaAdrianiel: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' has been a hugely guilty pleasure for me for a couple of months. I hated most of the characters, I thought the plot lines were kind of stupid, but there was something that kept me coming back every week. I may have seen them as being mindless entertainment, but I never really hated an episode. Until now. It was "I Do" that did it for me. Everything about that episode.... it just really rubbed me the wrong way. I think that it was mainly all of the hookups. I mean, sure, it wasn't really cheating or anything for any of them (what's with all the open relationships all of a sudden?), but to me it just felt like an excuse to get as many of the old couples back together and get as many couples in general having sex.
* @/MewLettuceRush: Originally my DMOS was I Do but I then realized the show died for me earlier starting in The New Rachel I was excited about this season mainly because finally FINALLY Tina, my favorite character, would be getting the spotlight especially since in Props she was promised to be in charge of the group by Rachel, I was watching the wrong show, not only does she NOT get it but it goes to Mr perfect Marty Stu Blaine so I literally was hoping for ALL THAT TIME
for nothing. Oh and it doesn't end there! not only is she pushed into the sidelines (again!) in favor of "oh woe is me Blaine and Rachel" show but when she FINALLY gets the spotlight again (ten episodes later!) it's to be a cardboard cutout Blaine stan this was the nail in the coffin for me and I haven't looked back.

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* @/AryaAdrianiel: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' has been a hugely guilty pleasure for me for a couple of months. I hated most of the characters, I thought the plot lines were kind of stupid, but there was something that kept me coming back every week. I may have seen them as being mindless entertainment, but I never really hated an episode. Until now. It was "I Do" that did it for me. Everything about that episode....episode... it just really rubbed me the wrong way. I think that it was mainly all of the hookups. I mean, sure, it wasn't really cheating or anything for any of them (what's with all the open relationships all of a sudden?), but to me it just felt like an excuse to get as many of the old couples back together and get as many couples in general having sex.
* @/MewLettuceRush: Originally Originally, my DMOS was I Do "I Do", but I then realized the show died for me earlier starting in The "The New Rachel Rachel". I was excited about this season season, mainly because finally FINALLY Tina, my favorite character, would be [[ADayInTheLimelight getting the spotlight spotlight]] -- especially since in Props "Props", she was promised to be in charge of the group glee club by Rachel, Rachel. I felt like I was watching the wrong show, show; not only does she NOT not get it it, but it goes to Mr perfect Marty Stu Blaine Mr-perfect-Marty-Stu Blaine, so I literally was hoping for ALL THAT TIME
psyched for nothing. Oh and it doesn't end there! On top of that, not only is she pushed into the sidelines (again!) (again) in favor of "oh woe is me Blaine the "Blaine and Rachel" show show, but when she FINALLY finally gets the spotlight again (ten episodes later!) later), it's to be a cardboard cutout Blaine stan this stand. This was the nail in the coffin for me and I haven't looked back.
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