History DethroningMoment / Film

27th Apr '17 12:55:38 PM sampacm
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* SampaCM: ''Who Am I'', one of the so many movies Creator/JackieChan has participated in: now, don't get me wrong, I liked most of it, the fighting sequences, the humor, and I honestly think the Idea of an amnesiac Jackie Chan fighting to rediscover his identity is good. Why is it a [=DMOS=] Then? Simple. The ending: At the end of the movie, the villain is defeated by Jackie and arrested, but then comes this girl from the CIA, who apparently thinks he hasn't got enough punishment yet, and kicks him in the face. Seriously? Why was that necessary? The villain was already defeated and was no longer a threat... That tiny moment really pissed me off, and ruined the entire movie for me.
25th Apr '17 5:31:06 AM tyrekecorrea
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* ''DethroningMoment/PowerRangers2017''
4th Apr '17 5:31:53 PM KingBowser9001
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** [=KingBowser9001=]: Even if this isn't the absolute worst moment in the franchise, it's definitely the most laughable. Even if the motive was incredibly stupid, what really annoyed me here was how sloppily-implemented it felt, to the point of feeling like a cheap {{Retcon}}. [[spoiler:So, Blofeld, you say you specifically engineered the deaths of [[Film/Skyfall M]] and [[Film/CasinoRoyale Vesper Lynd]], right? Well, then, [[AssPull how is it that after re-watching those movies to see exactly how well this was implemented, I know that Lynd essentially committed suicide outside of your mechanations, and M was killed by what's basically a stray bullet]]? How the hell do you plan a stray bullet? [[LogicBomb How the hell do you engineer suicide]]?! It's almost as though Bond spared Blofeld in the climax because he didn't buy it, either. It also undermines and cheapens the actions of the previous Craig-era villains by essentially retconning them into more pawns to Blofeld.]] It's extremely difficult to believe that he planned this from the beginning, and the execution feels extremely poor.

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** [=KingBowser9001=]: Even if this isn't the absolute worst moment in the franchise, it's definitely the most laughable. Even if the motive was incredibly stupid, what really annoyed me here was how sloppily-implemented it felt, to the point of feeling like a cheap {{Retcon}}. [[spoiler:So, Blofeld, you say you specifically engineered the deaths of [[Film/Skyfall M]] M and [[Film/CasinoRoyale Vesper Lynd]], Lynd, right? Well, then, [[AssPull how is it that after re-watching those movies to see exactly how well this was implemented, I know that Lynd essentially committed suicide outside of your mechanations, and M was killed by what's basically a stray bullet]]? bullet? How the hell do you plan a stray bullet? [[LogicBomb How the hell do you engineer suicide]]?! suicide?! It's almost as though Bond spared Blofeld in the climax because he didn't buy it, either. It also undermines and cheapens the actions of the previous Craig-era villains by essentially retconning them into more pawns to Blofeld.]] It's extremely difficult to believe that he planned this from the beginning, and the execution feels extremely poor.
4th Apr '17 5:30:21 PM KingBowser9001
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In the long winding history of Hollywood, people reflect on the movies they've seen and gauge the quality of the movies, the best scenes, etc. But often times there will come a time where you're watching a movie and see a part that will strike a chord with you and make you wonder what the hell were the writers thinking.

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In the long winding history of Hollywood, people reflect on the movies they've seen and gauge the quality of the movies, the best scenes, etc. But often times times, there will come a time where you're watching a movie and see a part that will strike a chord with you and make you wonder what the hell were the writers were thinking.


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** [=KingBowser9001=]: Even if this isn't the absolute worst moment in the franchise, it's definitely the most laughable. Even if the motive was incredibly stupid, what really annoyed me here was how sloppily-implemented it felt, to the point of feeling like a cheap {{Retcon}}. [[spoiler:So, Blofeld, you say you specifically engineered the deaths of [[Film/Skyfall M]] and [[Film/CasinoRoyale Vesper Lynd]], right? Well, then, [[AssPull how is it that after re-watching those movies to see exactly how well this was implemented, I know that Lynd essentially committed suicide outside of your mechanations, and M was killed by what's basically a stray bullet]]? How the hell do you plan a stray bullet? [[LogicBomb How the hell do you engineer suicide]]?! It's almost as though Bond spared Blofeld in the climax because he didn't buy it, either. It also undermines and cheapens the actions of the previous Craig-era villains by essentially retconning them into more pawns to Blofeld.]] It's extremely difficult to believe that he planned this from the beginning, and the execution feels extremely poor.
29th Mar '17 5:39:44 AM MsCC93
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* {{Tropers/LatePocketwatch}}: While this Troper looks forward, eagerly, to giving ''Film/Arrival'' another viewing his first was marred by a defiance of common sense. If the conceit of your film is translating a StarfishLanguage then during the aliens' debut the audience MUST be able to distinguish their vocalizations from DroneOfDread laden background music.

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* {{Tropers/LatePocketwatch}}: While this Troper looks forward, eagerly, to giving ''Film/Arrival'' another viewing his first was marred by a defiance of common sense. If the conceit of your film is translating a StarfishLanguage then during the aliens' debut the audience MUST be able to distinguish their vocalizations from DroneOfDread laden background music.music.
* {{Tropers/mscc93}}: I was unlucky to discover ''Film/TheStrangeThingAboutTheJohnsons'' through Twitter because of the whole plot. Basically, the son has been raping the father since he was 12. One scene that does piss me off is when the son apparently busts down a door to get into the bathroom that his father is taking a bath in. Isaiah then proceeds to rape Sidney, and the scene cuts to the mother, Joan, not doing anything to help her husband. She just sits in her room mortified and just watching television. When it comes to molestation/rape, the bystander who just ignores it is just as bad as the abuser, so of course this would leave a horrible taste in my mouth.
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18th Mar '17 7:09:31 PM LatePocketwatch
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* {{Tropers/ScotieRw}}: The mom chick from ''Film/TheBabdook'' needs to get her $3!& together. She's stressed out because her kid has behavior issues and her husband's dead, understandable. But at one point her kid's school wants to have a monitor monitor the boy after he brings a homemade crossbow thing to school, implying they might suspect he's misbehaving not because he''s a brat but because there's something wrong with him. She takes the kid out of school because she doesn't want him o get picked on. So basically the chick thought her son's elementary social life was more important than making sure he grows up in to a well functioning adult.

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* {{Tropers/ScotieRw}}: The mom chick from ''Film/TheBabdook'' needs to get her $3!& together. She's stressed out because her kid has behavior issues and her husband's dead, understandable. But at one point her kid's school wants to have a monitor monitor the boy after he brings a homemade crossbow thing to school, implying they might suspect he's misbehaving not because he''s a brat but because there's something wrong with him. She takes the kid out of school because she doesn't want him o get picked on. So basically the chick thought her son's elementary social life was more important than making sure he grows up in to a well functioning adult.adult.
* {{Tropers/LatePocketwatch}}: While this Troper looks forward, eagerly, to giving ''Film/Arrival'' another viewing his first was marred by a defiance of common sense. If the conceit of your film is translating a StarfishLanguage then during the aliens' debut the audience MUST be able to distinguish their vocalizations from DroneOfDread laden background music.
13th Feb '17 10:45:54 PM ScotieRw
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* {{Troper/ScotieRw}}: The mom chick from ''Film/TheBabdook'' needs to get her $3!& together. She's stressed out because her kid has behavior issues and her husband's dead, understandable. But at one point her kid's school wants to have a monitor monitor the boy after he brings a homemade crossbow thing to school, implying they might suspect he's misbehaving not because he''s a brat but because there's something wrong with him. She takes the kid out of school because she doesn't want him o get picked on. So basically the chick thought her son's elementary social life was more important than making sure he grows up in to a well functioning adult.

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* {{Troper/ScotieRw}}: {{Tropers/ScotieRw}}: The mom chick from ''Film/TheBabdook'' needs to get her $3!& together. She's stressed out because her kid has behavior issues and her husband's dead, understandable. But at one point her kid's school wants to have a monitor monitor the boy after he brings a homemade crossbow thing to school, implying they might suspect he's misbehaving not because he''s a brat but because there's something wrong with him. She takes the kid out of school because she doesn't want him o get picked on. So basically the chick thought her son's elementary social life was more important than making sure he grows up in to a well functioning adult.
13th Feb '17 10:45:32 PM ScotieRw
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* {{Tropers/Pgj1997}}: If I'm allowed to put TV Movies on here, then the Nickelodeon movie "Oh Brother" is definitely one for me. All it is is a blown up travel guide for New York City, circa 1995. The meat of this special is nothing but {{filler}}, and doesn't further the story one bit, if it can even be considered a story at all. Nickelodeon is based in New York City by the way, so it's not like there was any budget for this. People nowadays like to say that Nickelodeon throws shit on the screen and will make bank regardless, but trust me, this cheap trait goes WAY back.

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* {{Tropers/Pgj1997}}: If I'm allowed to put TV Movies on here, then the Nickelodeon movie "Oh Brother" is definitely one for me. All it is is a blown up travel guide for New York City, circa 1995. The meat of this special is nothing but {{filler}}, and doesn't further the story one bit, if it can even be considered a story at all. Nickelodeon is based in New York City by the way, so it's not like there was any budget for this. People nowadays like to say that Nickelodeon throws shit on the screen and will make bank regardless, but trust me, this cheap trait goes WAY back.back.
* {{Troper/ScotieRw}}: The mom chick from ''Film/TheBabdook'' needs to get her $3!& together. She's stressed out because her kid has behavior issues and her husband's dead, understandable. But at one point her kid's school wants to have a monitor monitor the boy after he brings a homemade crossbow thing to school, implying they might suspect he's misbehaving not because he''s a brat but because there's something wrong with him. She takes the kid out of school because she doesn't want him o get picked on. So basically the chick thought her son's elementary social life was more important than making sure he grows up in to a well functioning adult.
8th Dec '16 2:12:39 PM pgj1997
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----* {{Tropers/Pgj1997}}: If I'm allowed to put TV Movies on here, then the Nickelodeon movie "Oh Brother" is definitely one for me. All it is is a blown up travel guide for New York City, circa 1995. The meat of this special is nothing but {{filler}}, and doesn't further the story one bit, if it can even be considered a story at all. Nickelodeon is based in New York City by the way, so it's not like there was any budget for this. People nowadays like to say that Nickelodeon throws shit on the screen and will make bank regardless, but trust me, this cheap trait goes WAY back.
19th Nov '16 7:06:50 AM Peridonyx
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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: For me, it's the sheer HappyEndingOverride over ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. Sure, Franchise/StarWarsLegends also invoked RealityEnsues regarding the Battle of Endor, the New Republic, the New Jedi Order, etc., but at least it was all done in a way that didn't make you feel like you'd just watched a glorified ShootTheShaggyDog story. The same, however, can't be said for the state of affairs in this film: The heroes are still at a major disadvantage (arguably even a worse one than before), the villains are still so overpowering (complete with yet another FallenHero acting as TheDragon), and the New Jedi Order was taken down even far easier than the one in the Prequels (thus technically making Luke a FailureHero despite all his CharacterDevelopment in the Originals) -- and off-screen on top of it. So what's the point of getting invested in the heroes, if pretty much all their accomplishments are just going to be {{Retcon}}ned away between movies regardless?

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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: For me, it's the sheer HappyEndingOverride over ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. Sure, Franchise/StarWarsLegends ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' also invoked RealityEnsues regarding the Battle of Endor, the New Republic, the New Jedi Order, etc., but at least it was all done in a way that didn't make you feel like you'd just watched a glorified ShootTheShaggyDog story. The same, however, can't be said for the state of affairs in this film: The heroes are still at a major disadvantage (arguably even a worse one than before), the villains are still so overpowering (complete with yet another FallenHero acting as TheDragon), TheDragon, not to mention a UpToEleven version of the Death Star), and the New Jedi Order was taken down even far easier than the one in the Prequels (thus technically making Luke a FailureHero despite all his CharacterDevelopment in the Originals) -- Originals; and off-screen on top of it.it). So what's the point of getting invested in the heroes, if pretty much all their accomplishments are just going to be {{Retcon}}ned away between movies regardless?
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