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22nd May '16 1:56:08 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** Miracle @ St. Olaf: What makes it so bad is that they went to the trouble of establishing Stormtroopers as being kidnapped and brainwashed from childhood, and thus also tragic victims of the First Order's machinations. From there, though, the film proceeds to ignore that setup for everyone except Finn, along with all the interesting possibilities for conflict that it introduces, and simply depicts them all as bog-standard evil mooks for our heroes to kill by the cartload. It's not a bad idea to try introducing some shades of grey into a universe that otherwise uses BlackAndWhiteMorality, but for the love of God, don't half-ass it.

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** Miracle @ St. Olaf: What makes it so bad is that they went to the trouble of establishing Stormtroopers as being kidnapped and brainwashed from childhood, and thus also tragic victims of the First Order's machinations. From there, though, the film proceeds to ignore that setup for everyone except Finn, along with all the interesting possibilities for conflict that it introduces, and simply depicts them all as bog-standard evil mooks for our heroes to kill by the cartload. It's not a bad idea to try introducing some shades of grey into a universe that otherwise uses BlackAndWhiteMorality, but for the love of God, don't half-ass it.it; giving Stormtroopers a sympathetic background and leaving it at that just makes watching them get slaughtered a lot more uncomfortable than it used to be.
15th May '16 4:10:41 PM crazyrabbits
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** Tropers/{{Crazyrabbits}}: The sequence where Diana Prince[=/=]Wonder Woman reads through the Lexcorp files Bruce sends her in an email. Aside from coming off as an abrupt teaser sequence for upcoming DC Universe movies, the sequence interrupts the flow of the film (stuck awkwardly between the middle of two climactic fight scenes in the final act), has noticeably-cheap production quality (Creator/JasonMomoa is seen puffing his cheeks out and holding his breath during the shot of Aquaman swimming up to the research camera), and the scene takes on a {{Narm))-esque feel with the notion that Lex made special superhero-styled logos for all of the individuals he was researching. There were much better ways this scene could have been handled, and it smacks of poor planning by Warner Bros. and DC as they attempt to rush all these characters into the universe.

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** Tropers/{{Crazyrabbits}}: The sequence where Diana Prince[=/=]Wonder Woman reads through the Lexcorp files Bruce sends her in an email. Aside from coming off as an abrupt teaser sequence for upcoming DC Universe movies, the sequence interrupts the flow of the film (stuck awkwardly between the middle of two climactic fight scenes in the final act), has noticeably-cheap production quality (Creator/JasonMomoa is seen puffing his cheeks out and holding his breath during the shot of Aquaman swimming up to the research camera), and the scene takes on a {{Narm))-esque {{Narm}}-esque feel with the notion that Lex made special superhero-styled logos for all of the individuals he was researching. There were much better ways this scene could have been handled, and it smacks of poor planning by Warner Bros. and DC as they attempt to rush all these characters into the universe.
15th May '16 4:09:56 PM crazyrabbits
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** Tropers/{{Crazyrabbits}}: The sequence where Diana Prince[=/=]Wonder Woman reads through the Lexcorp files Bruce sends her in an email. Aside from coming off as an abrupt teaser sequence for upcoming DC Universe movies, the sequence interrupts the flow of the film (stuck awkwardly between the middle of two climactic fight scenes in the final act), has noticeably-cheap production quality (Creator/JasonMomoa is seen puffing his cheeks out and holding his breath during the shot of Aquaman swimming up to the research camera), and the scene takes on a {{Narm))-esque feel with the notion that Lex made special superhero-styled logos for all of the individuals he was researching. There were much better ways this scene could have been handled, and it smacks of poor planning by Warner Bros. and DC as they attempt to rush all these characters into the universe.
14th May '16 5:32:26 AM Retloclive
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* Tropers/Loekman3: ComicBook/JimmyOlsen being killed off so casually in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is one of my biggest gripes against the movie. Here we have one of the most important characters in the Superman universe as Superman's best friend and greatly looked up to him. There could be a lot of potential interactions between him, Lois and Clark in the big screen. When I was watching the movie, I began to ask myself where is Jimmy? It turns out that he is actually the same CIA agent that gets killed off early on. Adding insult to the injury, he is not mentioned by anyone, not by Clark, not Lois and certainly not his boss Perry White and his death isn't even treated as a major event happening. To me, Zack Snyder just casually kills him off because he wants to ShooOutTheClowns for this DarkerAndEdgier movie [[ItAmusedMe just because he can]]. TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter at its finest.

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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''
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Tropers/Loekman3: ComicBook/JimmyOlsen being killed off so casually in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is one of my biggest gripes against the movie. Here we have one of the most important characters in the Superman universe as Superman's best friend and greatly looked up to him. There could be a lot of potential interactions between him, Lois and Clark in the big screen. When I was watching the movie, I began to ask myself where is Jimmy? It turns out that he is actually the same CIA agent that gets killed off early on. Adding insult to the injury, he is not mentioned by anyone, not by Clark, not Lois and certainly not his boss Perry White and his death isn't even treated as a major event happening. To me, Zack Snyder just casually kills him off because he wants to ShooOutTheClowns for this DarkerAndEdgier movie [[ItAmusedMe just because he can]]. TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter at its finest.


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** Retloclive: The very last second of the movie [[spoiler:where the dirt begins to rise on Superman's grave to imply that Superman will return one day]]. Way to chicken out on one of the only risks that the movie was willing to take, which also happened to destroy any possible emotional impact that was a result of said risk.
3rd May '16 11:24:17 AM Shadow200
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** Shadow200: They showed Batman not only killing some people, but also branding them as well after, so even if they survive and taken to jail, It's implied that they will be killed in prison. This not only goes against his entire character but its mentioned that The Joker is alive and in prison. And prior to this mess of a film, that he had killed Robin. What the heck?! Batman you're telling me you are willing to kill some two bit thugs who rob places but you are still outright refusing to kill [[KarmaHoudini Joker]] after he brutally murdered Robin and several other people?! No wonder DC is eating Marvel's dust, and it looks like they will continue to do so.
13th Apr '16 12:44:07 PM kenyastarflight
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* Tropers/KenyaStarflight: Don't get me wrong, I love ''Film/PacificRim'' with all my heart, to the point where I've [[ShamelessSelfPromoter written my own]] [[Fanfic/{{Domovoi}} fan sequel]]. But the script writers really should have known that the plural for kaiju (yes, it's an actual word) is "kaiju," not "kaijus." Yeah, yeah, a movie bursting with HollywoodScience and it's [[GrammarNazi a language fail that I take the most issue with]], but it raises my hackles every time I hear it.
11th Apr '16 3:10:45 PM kenyastarflight
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* Troper/KenyaStarflight: I'm not saying that ''Film/TheOogielovesInTheBigBalloonAdventure'' is a good film by any means... but it crosses a line from being bad to being downright insulting with the introduction of Lero and Lola Sombrero, two [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappies]] that embody everything that's wrong with the {{Spexico}} trope (with [[SnakeCharmer a bizarre jab at East Indian culture]] for good measure). As if being a bad parody of Hispanic/Spanish culture wasn't enough, neither of them are actually played by a Spanish/Hispanic/Latino actor! Did the filmmakers honestly think that when viewers think Hispanic/Spanish culture, they think of Jaime Pressly and Creator/ChristopherLloyd? [[TheyJustDidntCare Or did they just not care?]]
10th Apr '16 10:35:07 PM Loekman3
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* Tropers/Loekman3: ComicBook/JimmyOlsen being killed off so casually in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is one of my biggest gripes against the movie. Here we have one of the most important characters in the Superman universe as Superman's best friend and greatly looked up to him. There could be a lot of potential interactions between him, Lois and Clark in the big screen. When I was watching the movie, I began to ask myself where is Jimmy? It turns out that he is actually the same CIA agent that gets killed off early on. Adding insult to the injury, he is not mentioned by anyone, not by Clark, not Lois and certainly not his boss Perry White and his death isn't even treated as a major event happening. To me, Zack Snyder just casually kills him off because he wants to ShooOutTheClowns for this DarkerAndEdgier movie [[ItAmusedMe just because he can]]. TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter at its finest.
2nd Apr '16 6:32:06 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** Miracle @ St. Olaf: What makes it so bad is that they went to the trouble of establishing Stormtroopers as being kidnapped and brainwashed from childhood, and thus also tragic victims of the First Order's machinations. From there, though, the film proceeds to ignore that setup for everyone except Finn, along with all the interesting possibilities for conflict that it introduces, and simply depicts them all as bog-standard evil mooks for our heroes to kill by the cartload. It's not a bad idea to try introducing some shades of grey into a universe that otherwise uses BlackAndWhiteMorality, but for the love of God, don't half-ass it.
31st Mar '16 6:29:14 AM Retloclive
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* ''DethroningMoment/HarryPotter''
* ''DethroningMoment/TheHungerGames''



* ''DethroningMoment/HarryPotter''
* ''DethroningMoment/TheHungerGames''
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