History DethroningMoment / Film

24th Sep '16 9:45:24 AM nombretomado
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* @/MacPhisto: ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' -- aside from one of the worst {{Ass Pull}}s ever in order to bring Michael back, at the climax this formerly unstoppable monster gets his ass kicked by [[StuntCasting Busta Rhymes]]! Who was imitating moves he saw in a BruceLee movie!

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* @/MacPhisto: ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' -- aside from one of the worst {{Ass Pull}}s ever in order to bring Michael back, at the climax this formerly unstoppable monster gets his ass kicked by [[StuntCasting Busta Rhymes]]! Who was imitating moves he saw in a BruceLee Creator/BruceLee movie!
5th Sep '16 1:26:16 PM erforce
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* Tropers/{{GREGOLE}}: While ''[[Film/AlienVsPredator Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem]]'' was already an unsatisfying film, the moment that really sold it for me was the bit where the predalien infects an entire room full of pregnant women. While the little kid being chestbursted earlier was cringe-inducing, it was one death out of countless. We're shown that both monsters are ruthless and inhuman, and will not make distinctions between their victims... The filmmakers apparently felt that we forgot about this, so they decided to go even more over the top, to the point where the shock is gone, and it becomes a sick snuff fantasy for the writers. It was the single most tasteless thing I have ever seen in a movie since the Toxic Avenger disemboweled a man dressed as a baby who was trying to blow up a school for the retarded on Take A Mexican To Lunch Day.

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* Tropers/{{GREGOLE}}: While ''[[Film/AlienVsPredator Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem]]'' ''Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem'' was already an unsatisfying film, the moment that really sold it for me was the bit where the predalien infects an entire room full of pregnant women. While the little kid being chestbursted earlier was cringe-inducing, it was one death out of countless. We're shown that both monsters are ruthless and inhuman, and will not make distinctions between their victims... The filmmakers apparently felt that we forgot about this, so they decided to go even more over the top, to the point where the shock is gone, and it becomes a sick snuff fantasy for the writers. It was the single most tasteless thing I have ever seen in a movie since the Toxic Avenger disemboweled a man dressed as a baby who was trying to blow up a school for the retarded on Take A Mexican To Lunch Day.
29th Aug '16 7:43:26 PM Peridonyx
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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: For me, it's the sheer HappyEndingOverride over ''Return of the Jedi''. Sure, the Legends EU also invoked RealityEnsues regarding the Battle of Endor, the New Republic, the New Jedi Order, etc., but at least it was all done in a way that didn't make you feel like you'd just watched a glorified ShootTheShaggyDog story. The same, however, can't be said for the state of affairs in this film: The heroes are still at a major disadvantage (arguably even a worse one than before), the villains are still so overpowering (complete with yet another FallenHero acting as TheDragon), and the New Jedi Order was taken down even far easier than the one in the Prequels (thus technically making Luke a FailureHero despite all his CharacterDevelopment in the Originals) -- and off-screen on top of it. So what's the point of getting invested in the heroes, if pretty much all their accomplishments are just going to be {{Retcon}}ned away between movies regardless?

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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: For me, it's the sheer HappyEndingOverride over ''Return of the Jedi''. Sure, the Legends EU Franchise/StarWarsLegends also invoked RealityEnsues regarding the Battle of Endor, the New Republic, the New Jedi Order, etc., but at least it was all done in a way that didn't make you feel like you'd just watched a glorified ShootTheShaggyDog story. The same, however, can't be said for the state of affairs in this film: The heroes are still at a major disadvantage (arguably even a worse one than before), the villains are still so overpowering (complete with yet another FallenHero acting as TheDragon), and the New Jedi Order was taken down even far easier than the one in the Prequels (thus technically making Luke a FailureHero despite all his CharacterDevelopment in the Originals) -- and off-screen on top of it. So what's the point of getting invested in the heroes, if pretty much all their accomplishments are just going to be {{Retcon}}ned away between movies regardless?
29th Aug '16 7:41:40 PM Peridonyx
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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: For me, it's the sheer HappyEndingOverride over ''Return of the Jedi''. Sure, the Legends EU also invoked RealityEnsues regarding the Battle of Endor, the New Republic, the New Jedi Order, etc., but at least it was all done in a way that didn't make you feel like you'd just watched a glorified ShootTheShaggyDog story. The same, however, can't be said for the state of affairs in this film: The heroes are still at a major disadvantage (arguably even a worse one than before), the villains are still so overpowering (complete with yet another FallenHero acting as TheDragon), and the New Jedi Order was taken down even far easier than the one in the Prequels (thus technically making Luke a FailureHero despite all his CharacterDevelopment in the Originals) -- and off-screen on top of it. So what's the point of getting invested in the heroes if pretty much all their accomplishments are just going to be {{Retcon}}ned away between movies regardless?

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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: For me, it's the sheer HappyEndingOverride over ''Return of the Jedi''. Sure, the Legends EU also invoked RealityEnsues regarding the Battle of Endor, the New Republic, the New Jedi Order, etc., but at least it was all done in a way that didn't make you feel like you'd just watched a glorified ShootTheShaggyDog story. The same, however, can't be said for the state of affairs in this film: The heroes are still at a major disadvantage (arguably even a worse one than before), the villains are still so overpowering (complete with yet another FallenHero acting as TheDragon), and the New Jedi Order was taken down even far easier than the one in the Prequels (thus technically making Luke a FailureHero despite all his CharacterDevelopment in the Originals) -- and off-screen on top of it. So what's the point of getting invested in the heroes heroes, if pretty much all their accomplishments are just going to be {{Retcon}}ned away between movies regardless?
22nd Aug '16 7:42:35 PM SithPanda16
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* ''DethroningMoment/DCExtendedUniverse''



* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''
** Tropers/Loekman3: ComicBook/JimmyOlsen being killed off so casually is one of my biggest gripes against the movie. Here we have one of the most important characters in the Superman universe as Superman's best friend and greatly looked up to him. There could be a lot of potential interactions between him, Lois and Clark in the big screen. When I was watching the movie, I began to ask myself where is Jimmy? It turns out that he is actually the same CIA agent that gets killed off early on. Adding insult to the injury, he is not mentioned by anyone, not by Clark, not Lois and certainly not his boss Perry White and his death isn't even treated as a major event happening. To me, Zack Snyder just casually kills him off because he wants to ShooOutTheClowns for this DarkerAndEdgier movie [[ItAmusedMe just because he can]]. TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter at its finest.
** Shadow200: They showed Batman not only killing some people, but also branding them as well after, so even if they survive and taken to jail, It's implied that they will be killed in prison. This not only goes against his entire character but its mentioned that The Joker is alive and in prison. And prior to this mess of a film, that he had killed Robin. What the heck?! Batman you're telling me you are willing to kill some two bit thugs who rob places but you are still outright refusing to kill [[KarmaHoudini Joker]] after he brutally murdered Robin and several other people?! No wonder DC is eating Marvel's dust, and it looks like they will continue to do so.
** Retloclive: The very last second of the movie [[spoiler:where the dirt begins to rise on Superman's grave to imply that Superman will return one day]]. Way to chicken out on one of the only risks that the movie was willing to take, which also happened to destroy any possible emotional impact that was a result of said risk.
** Tropers/{{Crazyrabbits}}: The sequence where Diana Prince[=/=]Wonder Woman reads through the Lexcorp files Bruce sends her in an email. Aside from coming off as an abrupt teaser sequence for upcoming DC Universe movies, the sequence interrupts the flow of the film (stuck awkwardly between the middle of two climactic fight scenes in the final act), has noticeably-cheap production quality (Creator/JasonMomoa is seen puffing his cheeks out and holding his breath during the shot of Aquaman swimming up to the research camera), and the scene takes on a {{Narm}}-esque feel with the notion that Lex made special superhero-styled logos for all of the individuals he was researching. There were much better ways this scene could have been handled, and it smacks of poor planning by Warner Bros. and DC as they attempt to rush all these characters into the universe.
** Tauriella: Lex Luthor had [[{{Narm}} several moments that could be seen as contenders]], but the Senate scene takes the cake. Your dramatic reveal kind of loses its severity when it depends on a BrickJoke involving Lex Luthor, of all villains, giving a Senator a jar of his own pee to intimidate her. AndThatsTerrible.
** cricri3007: The scene where Superman confront Batman for the first time by letting the Batmobile bounce off him is extremely cool... if you're not watching the French version of the film, because Adrien Antoine (Superman's dubber) is the same guy who dubbed Batman in everything but the Nolan films for the past twelve years. Rarely has there ever been a weirder instance of TalkingToHimself that completely broke the immersion. Even worse since Batman's dubber also did [[VideoGame/MassEffect Shepard]], so you could have switched the dubbers' roles without it being weird.
19th Aug '16 7:12:22 PM DrZulu2010
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** Tropers/DrZulu2010: For me, it has to be how Maleficent (or [[InNameOnly MINO]] as I like to call her), is the one who awakens Aurora from her sleep. Not only it cements Prince Phillip, the first proactive prince in the history animated canon as a waste of space, not only it rips off what ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' did only with replacing sisterly love with motherly love, it cements MINO's BadassDecay and CharacterDerailment from the mistress of all evil and the greatest villain of the canon into a lame shadow of her former self. Not only that, but they gave her an unambugiously happy ending?! Did Disney hated the original movie so much or what?!
19th Aug '16 3:29:08 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* Miracle @ St. Olaf: Woah, ''Film/Godzilla2016'' is shaping up to be a fantastic improvement over Hollywood's last crack at the franchise! With such a strong performance from Creator/BryanCranston and such a very compelling and tragic motivation for his character, I'm really looking forward to how he'll help carry the film, especially compared to the person-shaped plank of wood that's supposed to be his son-- Wait, what just happened? No, don't do this, movie; we're only a half-hour in! Oh, come on; he has to be okay, right? Like, maybe he just got really sick, and they didn't want him to sneeze on anybody so they're zipping him into a... *sigh* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim into a body bag]]. Welp, there goes any compelling human element to the film, but hey; at least we'll get to see plenty of Godzilla breaking shit up, [[JustHereForGodzilla which is what we bought a ticket for in the first place]], isn't it? Annnnnd now [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome they're closing the shelter doors on the camera just as the big guy starts fighting the MUTOs]]. While it's still a better movie than ''Godzilla '98'' and finally delivers some sweet payoff in the end, there's nothing enjoyable about suffering the cinematic equivalent of blue balls for the two hours leading up to it.

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* Miracle @ St. Olaf: Woah, ''Film/Godzilla2016'' ''Film/Godzilla2014'' is shaping up to be a fantastic improvement over Hollywood's last crack at the franchise! With such a strong performance from Creator/BryanCranston and such a very compelling and tragic motivation for his character, I'm really looking forward to how he'll help carry the film, especially compared to the person-shaped plank of wood that's supposed to be his son-- Wait, what just happened? No, don't do this, movie; we're only a half-hour in! Oh, come on; he has to be okay, right? Like, maybe he just got really sick, and they didn't want him to sneeze on anybody so they're zipping him into a... *sigh* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim into a body bag]]. Welp, there goes any compelling human element to the film, but hey; at least we'll get to see plenty of Godzilla breaking shit up, [[JustHereForGodzilla which is what we bought a ticket for in the first place]], isn't it? Annnnnd now [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome they're closing the shelter doors on the camera just as the big guy starts fighting the MUTOs]]. While it's still a better movie than ''Godzilla '98'' and finally delivers some sweet payoff in the end, there's nothing enjoyable about suffering the cinematic equivalent of blue balls for the two hours leading up to it.
19th Aug '16 3:28:39 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* Miracle @ St. Olaf: Woah, ''Film/Godzilla2016'' is shaping up to be a fantastic improvement over Hollywood's last crack at the franchise! With such a strong performance from Creator/BryanCranston and such a very compelling and tragic motivation for his character, I'm really looking forward to how he'll help carry the film, especially compared to the person-shaped plank of wood that's supposed to be his son-- Wait, what just happened? No, don't do this, movie; we're only a half-hour in! Oh, come on; he has to be okay, right? Like, maybe he just got really sick, and they didn't want him to sneeze on anybody so they're zipping him into a... *sigh* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim into a body bag]]. Welp, there goes any compelling human element to the film, but hey; at least we'll get to see plenty of Godzilla breaking shit up, [[JustHereForGodzilla which is what we bought a ticket for in the first place]], isn't it? Annnnnd now [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome they're closing the shelter doors on the camera just as the big guy starts fighting the MUTOs]]. While it's still a better movie than ''Godzilla '98'' and finally delivers some sweet payoff in the end, there's nothing enjoyable about suffering the cinematic equivalent of blue balls for the two hours leading up to it.
17th Aug '16 9:11:55 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Troper/KenyaStarflight: I'm not saying that ''Film/TheOogielovesInTheBigBalloonAdventure'' is a good film by any means... but it crosses a line from being bad to being downright insulting with the introduction of Lero and Lola Sombrero, two [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappies]] that embody everything that's wrong with the {{Spexico}} trope (with [[SnakeCharmer a bizarre jab at East Indian culture]] for good measure). As if being a bad parody of Hispanic/Spanish culture wasn't enough, neither of them are actually played by a Spanish/Hispanic/Latino actor! Did the filmmakers honestly think that when viewers think Hispanic/Spanish culture, they think of Jaime Pressly and Creator/ChristopherLloyd? [[TheyJustDidntCare Or did they just not care?]]

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* Troper/KenyaStarflight: I'm not saying that ''Film/TheOogielovesInTheBigBalloonAdventure'' is a good film by any means... but it crosses a line from being bad to being downright insulting with the introduction of Lero and Lola Sombrero, two [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappies]] that embody everything that's wrong with the {{Spexico}} trope (with [[SnakeCharmer a bizarre jab at East Indian culture]] for good measure). As if being a bad parody of Hispanic/Spanish culture wasn't enough, neither of them are actually played by a Spanish/Hispanic/Latino actor! Did the filmmakers honestly think that when viewers think Hispanic/Spanish culture, they think of Jaime Pressly and Creator/ChristopherLloyd? [[TheyJustDidntCare Or did they just not care?]]care?
17th Aug '16 9:04:26 PM Elysium94
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* Elysium94: ''Film/Maleficent'' is, in a nutshell, a missed opportunity. With its admittedly talented cast and impressive technical aspects the movie could have been something truly great. But any chance of that went right out the window with the godawful [[CharacterDerailment ruining]] of its characters, particularly Stefan and Maleficent. When the film was announced people were excited to see an origin for one of Disney's greatest villains. And what did we get? A tragic friendship torn apart through a cruel twist of fate? Maleficent dabbling in dark powers and being corrupted, turning on everything she once held dear? Nope! Maleficent is watered down from the Mistress of All Evil into a bitter yet lovable WomanScorned who is saved by the PowerofLove. While Stefan, the caring and noble king and father from the original film is turned into a treacherous, psychotic tyrant that would make Macbeth proud. Just... wow. And that isn't even going into turning the beloved Three Fairies into bumbling idiots reminiscent of the Three Stooges, or rendering the formerly badass Prince Phillip into a mere RedHerring. This movie failed spectacularly in delivering the supposed "true story" of Maleficent, and if Disney does indeed go ahead with the rumored sequel you can be damn sure I won't be suckered in again.

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* Elysium94: ''Film/Maleficent'' ''Film/{{Maleficent}}'' is, in a nutshell, a tremendous missed opportunity. With its admittedly talented cast and impressive technical aspects the movie could have been something truly great. But any chance of that went right out the window with the godawful [[CharacterDerailment ruining]] of its characters, particularly Stefan and Maleficent. When the film was announced people were excited to see an origin for one of Disney's greatest villains. And what did we get? A tragic friendship torn apart through a cruel twist of fate? Maleficent dabbling in dark powers and being corrupted, turning on everything she once held dear? Nope! Maleficent is watered down from the Mistress of All Evil into a bitter yet lovable WomanScorned who is saved by the PowerofLove. While Stefan, the caring and noble king and father from the original film is turned into a treacherous, psychotic tyrant that would make Macbeth proud. Just... wow. And that isn't even going into turning the beloved Three Fairies into bumbling idiots reminiscent of the Three Stooges, or rendering the formerly badass Prince Phillip into a mere RedHerring. This movie failed spectacularly in delivering the supposed "true story" of Maleficent, and if Disney does indeed go ahead with the rumored sequel you can be damn sure I won't be suckered in again.
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