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19th Sep '17 8:07:34 PM Qrow
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* A villainous example in ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil''. Ludo may be a cowardly, wimpy HarmlessVillain, but it's shown that he never quits no matter how many times he loses, or how badly he's beaten. In "Ludo In the Wild", it's the only reason he ''survives''.
-->'''Ludo''': Worried about me? Don't you get it? I lost my army, my kingdom, my clothes! And look...STILL STANDING!
18th Jun '17 9:44:33 AM infernape612
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->'''Rainbow Dash:''' Today I learned what the most important quality ''really'' is; a certain kind of spirit; a stick-to-it-iveness. A never-give-up, can-do attitude that's the mark of a ''real'' winner! And this tortoise has it!
->'''Twilight Sparkle:''' Tenacity!
-->-''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''

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->'''Rainbow Dash:''' Today I learned what the most important quality ''really'' is; a certain kind of spirit; a stick-to-it-iveness. A never-give-up, can-do attitude that's the mark of a ''real'' winner! And this tortoise has it!
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'''Twilight
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-->-''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''-->--''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
13th May '17 9:03:56 PM DastardlyDemolition
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%%* The eponymous character of ''{{Kiwi}}''.



** Doofenshmirz also qualify.

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** Doofenshmirz also qualify.qualifies. Every scheme is either about taking over the TriStateArea or humiliating his brother and no matter how many times Perry the Platypus foils his schemes he keeps trying (with a few momentary successes).



** Butters in "Super Fun Time".

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** Butters in "Super Fun Time". Even when Cartman is made his partner for the day, even when he's dragged to a arcade, even when [[Film/DieHard German thieves hold everyone hostage]], even when a grenade blow up behind him and Cartman, ''nothing'' will stop making him hold the fatty's hand and get back onto the bus.



* Plankton of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''.
** Spongebob may be a pushover most of the time, but nothing will stop him doing his duty for the Krusty Krab, whether it's delivering a pizza or saving his boss from execution.

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* Plankton of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''.
''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''. Day after day after day of failures and yet he never stops trying to steal the Krabby Patty secret recipe and drive his rival into the same level of success he lives in now.
** Spongebob may be a pushover most of the time, but nothing will stop him doing his duty for the Krusty Krab, whether it's delivering a pizza or saving his boss from execution. Even little things like returning a hall pass can bring this out of him as he forced himself out of a tar pit to return to class after ditching.


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* Brock Samson from ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers''. Ambushing him made him mad and tranquilizing him lead to the new guy being choked to death ''after'' they rammed him with a car to knock him out like a silverback gorilla. Slamming the car into him only pissed him off even more. Driving over him in a bus knocked him out for a bit, but he still got back up more ''pissed'' than hurt. Even exposure to the [[ThrownOutTheAirlock vacuum of space]] had little effect outside of being a little frozen and a bloody nose.
20th Apr '17 5:21:36 PM AthenaBlue
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': [[StateSec Agent Kallus]] is ''very'' dedicated to his job in hunting down rebels, especially the ''Ghost'' crew. Of particular note:
** [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS2E02RelicsOfTheOldRepublic "Relics of the Old Republic"]]: He won't let a [[DeadlyDustStorm sandstorm]] keep his [=AT-ATs=] from following the rebels, even if the storm renders their sensors useless and following them in the storm is suicidal.
** [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS2E12LegendsOfTheLasat "Legends of the Lasat"]]: He ends up following the ''Ghost'' into Wild Space, beyond the jurisdiction of the Empire, to try and catch them.
** [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS3E19ZeroHour "Zero Hour"]] also has an example, but of a rather different nature, due to Kallus [[spoiler:having had a HeelFaceTurn]]. He gets into a fistfight with [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] after the latter reveals [[spoiler:he knows about Kallus being the ReverseMole]] and loses, but at no point during the entire brawl does he give in to [[spoiler:Thrawn's]] blows. [[spoiler:Thrawn]] even comments on Kallus' determination.
* Pearl, from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is a big advocate of practice and determined study. Even in the very first episode, her advice to Steven with regards to summoning his weapon is to focus on hard work and dedication. Later on, we find out that a lot of the things we associate with Pearl, such as her skills in sword fighting and engineering, [[spoiler: are skills that Pearls are not intended to possess, and which she has only mastered because of her own interest and refusal to give up.]] While she has mellowed a bit in the actual episodes due to her self-esteem issues, pretty much every flashback shows her as nothing short of a assassin badass cutting through gems twice to three times her size (who are later revealed to be [[spoiler: Quartzes, a kind of gem ''designed'' to be strong warriors]]) and even [[GeniusBruiser Garnet]] had been horribly scared of her at one point and never stopped respecting her and her skills.



** Series' [[TheHero Hero]] Lion-O also has this quality, though to a more benificent end. In "The Duelist and the Drifter," after suffering defeat in a duel with a predatory MasterSwordsman, Lion-O heads to a forge and stubbornly insists that he'll ''make'' a sword that can withstand a rematch, no matter how many attempts it takes, despite having no training in swordsmithery. A {{retired|Badass}} swordmaker is so amused by Lion-O's determination that he [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade]] on it, and offers to lend a hand.

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** Series' Series [[TheHero Hero]] Lion-O also has this quality, though to a more benificent end. In "The Duelist and the Drifter," after suffering defeat in a duel with a predatory MasterSwordsman, Lion-O heads to a forge and stubbornly insists that he'll ''make'' a sword that can withstand a rematch, no matter how many attempts it takes, despite having no training in swordsmithery. A {{retired|Badass}} swordmaker is so amused by Lion-O's determination that he [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade]] on it, and offers to lend a hand.



* Pearl, from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is a big advocate of practice and determined study. Even in the very first episode, her advice to Steven with regards to summoning his weapon is to focus on hard work and dedication. Later on, we find out that a lot of the things we associate with Pearl, such as her skills in sword fighting and engineering, [[spoiler: are skills that Pearls are not intended to possess, and which she has only mastered because of her own interest and refusal to give up.]] While she has mellowed a bit in the actual episodes due to her self-esteem issues, pretty much every flashback shows her as nothing short of a assassin badass cutting through gems twice to three times her size (who are later revealed to be [[spoiler: Quartzes, a kind of gem ''designed'' to be strong warriors]]) and even [[GeniusBruiser Garnet]] had been horribly scared of her at one point and never stopped respecting her and her skills.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' was like this. Not only did ''he'' never give up, even when a situation looked hopeless, he did his best to encourage anyone else who was thinking of doing so. His motto in such situations was, [[RhymesOnADime "If at first you fail your need, try again till you succeed."]] And it always worked.
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}}'', [[BigBad Nox]] is so much of a WellIntentionedExtremist, he's been [[LivingOnBorrowedTime artificially]] extending his lifespan for ''centuries'' in order to continue pursuing his goals. [[spoiler:Rather darkly, when [[DespairEventHorizon the cause for his determination is extinguished]], he [[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]] almost immediately.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' was like this. Not only did ''he'' never give up, even when a situation looked hopeless, he did his best to encourage anyone else who was thinking of doing so. His motto in such situations was, [[RhymesOnADime "If at first you fail your need, try again till you succeed."]] And it always worked.
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}}'', [[BigBad Nox]] is so much of a WellIntentionedExtremist, he's been [[LivingOnBorrowedTime artificially]] extending his lifespan for ''centuries'' in order to continue pursuing his goals. [[spoiler:Rather darkly, when [[DespairEventHorizon the cause for his determination is extinguished]], he [[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]] almost immediately.]]
* Zig from ''WesternAnimation/ZigAndSharko'' never gives up on trying to catch Marina the Mermaid. Even with Sharko protecting her.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' was like this. Not only did ''he'' never give up, even when a situation looked hopeless, he did his best to encourage anyone else who was thinking of doing so. His motto in such situations was, [[RhymesOnADime "If at first you fail your need, try again till you succeed."]] And it always worked.
* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}}'', [[BigBad Nox]] is so much of a WellIntentionedExtremist, he's been [[LivingOnBorrowedTime artificially]] extending his lifespan for ''centuries'' in order to continue pursuing his goals. [[spoiler:Rather darkly, when [[DespairEventHorizon the cause for his determination is extinguished]], he [[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]] almost immediately.]]
* Zig from ''WesternAnimation/ZigAndSharko'' never gives up on trying to catch Marina the Mermaid. Even with Sharko protecting her. her.
24th Mar '17 2:16:50 PM sorako
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* Many characters in ''WestrnAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', but especially Captain America and Ms Marvel. As far as they're both concerned, this is humanity's [[PlanetOfHats hat]], and the Kree and the Skrulls definitely understood this after they were through with them.
--> (''To Vision'') '''Captain America:''' You think I'm fighting for me, to save my own life? That's why you'll never win. I'm not fighting for me. I'm fighting for them! And that's something you'll never understand, machine! It's the very thing that makes us human.
--> (''To Skrulls'') '''Captain America:''' There's more to human beings than our bodies and mindsó something you'll never understand. Our spirit! We never surrender! We never give up!



* Riley from ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks''. He's not a very good fighter, but he's able to take a lot of punishment before going down.



* The Exterminator from ''WesternAnimation/TheItsyBitsySpider'' never gives up on trying to get the spider.



* Wile E. Coyote, Sylvester, Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam, and Marvin The Martian of ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes''.
** No mention of Daffy? He'll do whatever it takes to upstage his rival. Like in ''WesternAnimation/TheStuporSalesman'': the crook can slam the door in his face, threaten to slug him, and so on and so forth, but he is not leaving until he makes a sale.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'': Tenzin (must run in the family, considering Katara's his mother); it took the combined might of the Red Lotus (four of the most powerful Benders in the world) to defeat him in Season 3, and even then he refused to stay down.
-->'''Tenzin:''' "As long as I'm breathing, it's never over."
* Wile E. Coyote, Sylvester, Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam, and Marvin The Martian Martian, and Daffy of ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes''.
* "The Busasaurus" episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheMagicSchoolBus'' showed Arnold's Determinator side.
-->'''Phoebe:''' C'mon, Arnold, let him go. It's just an egg.
-->'''Arnold:''' But it's Dr. Skeledon's egg. And it's up to ''me'' to get it back to her!
** No mention of Daffy? He'll do whatever it takes This episode also ended with Arnold fighting off a ''T.Rex'' to upstage his rival. Like in ''WesternAnimation/TheStuporSalesman'': protect the crook can slam class ''and'' get the door in his face, threaten to slug him, and so on and so forth, but he is not leaving until he makes a sale.egg back.



* ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain'': No matter how many times the Brain's plan for world domination fails, he just gets right back up and prepares for tomorrow night.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
** Apu Nahasapeemapetillion thinks that the town of Springfield should hire more police officers. In one episode, he mentions that he'd been shot by armed robbers 8 times already this year. As a result, he almost missed work. ''Almost''.
** When Bart was playing hooky, he destroyed a wooden bridge to stop Principal Skinner from following him. Skinner simply walks into the river, momentarily emerging at the other side.
--->'''Bart:''' Oh my god. He's like some sort of... [[GiverOfLameNames non...giving-up...school guy]]!
** In fact, both Homer, Bart, and especially Lisa exhibit this trait when they're passionate about something they care about or have their hearts set on something they believe in, while Marge exhibits these traits for the sake of her own motherly propaganda, usually acting as a foil for her husband and children, by interfering with their interests or trying to outlaw something that they happen to love.
** Sideshow Bob should be the poster boy for this trope. His entire reason for living is to kill Bart. And he goes to extreme lengths to do so, and consequently ruins his own life, repeatedly.



* Many characters in ''WestrnAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', but especially Captain America and Ms Marvel. As far as they're both concerned, this is humanity's [[PlanetOfHats hat]], and the Kree and the Skrulls definitely understood this after they were through with them.
--> (''To Vision'') '''Captain America:''' You think I'm fighting for me, to save my own life? That's why you'll never win. I'm not fighting for me. I'm fighting for them! And that's something you'll never understand, machine! It's the very thing that makes us human.
--> (''To Skrulls'') '''Captain America:''' There's more to human beings than our bodies and mindsó something you'll never understand. Our spirit! We never surrender! We never give up!
* Riley from ''WestrnAnimation/TheBoondocks''. He's not a very good fighter, but he's able to take a lot of punishment before going down.
* The Exterminator from ''WesternAnimation/TheItsyBitsySpider'' never gives up on trying to get the spider.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'': Tenzin (must run in the family, considering Katara's his mother); it took the combined might of the Red Lotus (four of the most powerful Benders in the world) to defeat him in Season 3, and even then he refused to stay down.
-->'''Tenzin:''' "As long as I'm breathing, it's never over."
* "The Busasaurus" episode of ''TheMagicSchoolBus'' showed Arnold's Determinator side.
-->'''Phoebe:''' C'mon, Arnold, let him go. It's just an egg.
-->'''Arnold:''' But it's Dr. Skeledon's egg. And it's up to ''me'' to get it back to her!
** This episode also ended with Arnold fighting off a ''T.Rex'' to protect the class ''and'' get the egg back.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
** Apu Nahasapeemapetillion thinks that the town of Springfield should hire more police officers. In one episode, he mentions that he'd been shot by armed robbers 8 times already this year. As a result, he almost missed work. ''Almost''.
** When Bart was playing hooky, he destroyed a wooden bridge to stop Principal Skinner from following him. Skinner simply walks into the river, momentarily emerging at the other side.
--->'''Bart:''' Oh my god. He's like some sort of... [[GiverOfLameNames non...giving-up...school guy]]!
** In fact, both Homer, Bart, and especially Lisa exhibit this trait when they're passionate about something they care about or have their hearts set on something they believe in, while Marge exhibits these traits for the sake of her own motherly propaganda, usually acting as a foil for her husband and children, by interfering with their interests or trying to outlaw something that they happen to love.
** Sideshow Bob should be the poster boy for this trope. His entire reason for living is to kill Bart. And he goes to extreme lengths to do so, and consequently ruins his own life, repeatedly.
* In ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]''

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* Many characters in ''WestrnAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', but especially Captain America and Ms Marvel. As far as they're both concerned, this is humanity's [[PlanetOfHats hat]], and the Kree and the Skrulls definitely understood this after they were through with them.
--> (''To Vision'') '''Captain America:''' You think I'm fighting for me, to save my own life? That's why you'll never win. I'm not fighting for me. I'm fighting for them! And that's something you'll never understand, machine! It's the very thing that makes us human.
--> (''To Skrulls'') '''Captain America:''' There's more to human beings than our bodies and mindsó something you'll never understand. Our spirit! We never surrender! We never give up!
* Riley from ''WestrnAnimation/TheBoondocks''. He's not a very good fighter, but he's able to take a lot of punishment before going down.
* The Exterminator from ''WesternAnimation/TheItsyBitsySpider'' never gives up on trying to get the spider.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'': Tenzin (must run in the family, considering Katara's his mother); it took the combined might of the Red Lotus (four of the most powerful Benders in the world) to defeat him in Season 3, and even then he refused to stay down.
-->'''Tenzin:''' "As long as I'm breathing, it's never over."
* "The Busasaurus" episode of ''TheMagicSchoolBus'' showed Arnold's Determinator side.
-->'''Phoebe:''' C'mon, Arnold, let him go. It's just an egg.
-->'''Arnold:''' But it's Dr. Skeledon's egg. And it's up to ''me'' to get it back to her!
** This episode also ended with Arnold fighting off a ''T.Rex'' to protect the class ''and'' get the egg back.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
** Apu Nahasapeemapetillion thinks that the town of Springfield should hire more police officers. In one episode, he mentions that he'd been shot by armed robbers 8 times already this year. As a result, he almost missed work. ''Almost''.
** When Bart was playing hooky, he destroyed a wooden bridge to stop Principal Skinner from following him. Skinner simply walks into the river, momentarily emerging at the other side.
--->'''Bart:''' Oh my god. He's like some sort of... [[GiverOfLameNames non...giving-up...school guy]]!
** In fact, both Homer, Bart, and especially Lisa exhibit this trait when they're passionate about something they care about or have their hearts set on something they believe in, while Marge exhibits these traits for the sake of her own motherly propaganda, usually acting as a foil for her husband and children, by interfering with their interests or trying to outlaw something that they happen to love.
** Sideshow Bob should be the poster boy for this trope. His entire reason for living is to kill Bart. And he goes to extreme lengths to do so, and consequently ruins his own life, repeatedly.
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''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]''(2011)=]]]'':



* No matter how many times [[WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain the Brain's]] plan for world domination fails, he just gets right back up and prepares for tomorrow night.
16th Mar '17 11:54:26 AM sorako
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* Grunkle Stan from ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', despite having always been treated as the less intelligent [[spoiler: twin]], spent thirty years working day and night to understand the science underpinning [[spoiler: his brother Ford's]] work, including studying physics for what was almost certainly the first time, considering that Stan [[spoiler: was kicked out of the family home before completing high school]], and attempting to rebuild the [[spoiler: inter-dimensional portal]] with only a third of the instructions.
** [[spoiler: Ford]], too, worked 'twice as hard' at university, and made his way through college and his phD 'three years ahead of schedule'.



* Pearl, from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is a big advocate of practice and determined study. Even in the very first episode, her advice to Steven with regards to summoning his weapon is to focus on hard work and dedication. Later on, we find out that a lot of the things we associate with Pearl, such as her skills in sword fighting and engineering, [[spoiler: are skills that Pearls are not intended to possess, and which she has only mastered because of her own interest and refusal to give up.]] While she has mellowed a bit in the actual episodes due to her self-esteem issues, pretty much every flashback shows her as nothing short of a assassin badass cutting through gems twice to three times her size (who are later revealed to be [[spoiler: Quartzes, a kind of gem ''designed'' to be strong warriors]]) and even [[GeniusBruiser Garnet]] had been horribly scared of her at one point and never stopped respecting her and her skills.



* Grunkle Stan from ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', despite having always been treated as the less intelligent [[spoiler: twin]], spent thirty years working day and night to understand the science underpinning [[spoiler: his brother Ford's]] work, including studying physics for what was almost certainly the first time, considering that Stan [[spoiler: was kicked out of the family home before completing high school]], and attempting to rebuild the [[spoiler: inter-dimensional portal]] with only a third of the instructions.
** [[spoiler: Ford]], too, worked 'twice as hard' at university, and made his way through college and his phD 'three years ahead of schedule'.
* Pearl, from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is a big advocate of practice and determined study. Even in the very first episode, her advice to Steven with regards to summoning his weapon is to focus on hard work and dedication. Later on, we find out that a lot of the things we associate with Pearl, such as her skills in sword fighting and engineering, [[spoiler: are skills that Pearls are not intended to possess, and which she has only mastered because of her own interest and refusal to give up.]] While she has mellowed a bit in the actual episodes due to her self-esteem issues, pretty much every flashback shows her as nothing short of a assassin badass cutting through gems twice to three times her size (who are later revealed to be [[spoiler: Quartzes, a kind of gem ''designed'' to be strong warriors]]) and even [[GeniusBruiser Garnet]] had been horribly scared of her at one point and never stopped respecting her and her skills.
7th Dec '16 12:42:11 AM WillBGood
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* Captain Clown from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', who takes a ridiculous amount of crowbar shots to the head.

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* Captain Clown from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', who takes a ridiculous amount of crowbar shots to the head. [[spoiler: Being a robot helps with that.]]
8th Nov '16 7:59:36 AM dlchen145
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** Then there's Wonder Woman in the adaption of ''ComicBook/ForTheManWhoHasEverything''. She absolutely gets the shit beat out of her by Mongul for almost the entire episode and refuses to stay down even though each hit she takes brings her closer and closer to death. She shows that you CAN be on the receiving end of a total CurbStompBattle and still look {{Badass}}.

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** Then there's Wonder Woman in the adaption of ''ComicBook/ForTheManWhoHasEverything''. She absolutely gets the shit beat out of her by Mongul for almost the entire episode and refuses to stay down even though each hit she takes brings her closer and closer to death. She shows that you CAN be on the receiving end of a total CurbStompBattle and still look {{Badass}}.badass.
22nd May '16 10:55:53 AM JJHIL325
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** This is one of [[BadassBookworm Twilight]] [[DitzyGenius Sparkle's]] most defining traits; she'll keep trying at a task, no matter how impossible it seems, for better or for worse.
29th Apr '16 11:59:29 AM MoonByte
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* Pearl, from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is a big advocate of practice and determined study. Even in the very first episode, her advice to Steven with regards to summoning his weapon is to focus on hard work and dedication. Later on, we find out that a lot of the things we associate with Pearl, such as her skills in sword fighting and engineering, [[spoiler: are skills that Pearls are not intended to possess, and which she has only mastered because of her own interest and refusal to give up.]] While she has mellowed a bit in the actual episodes due to her self-esteem issues, especially pretty much every flashback show her as nothing short of a assassin badass that even [[GeniusBruiser Garnet]] had been horribly scared of at one point.

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* Pearl, from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is a big advocate of practice and determined study. Even in the very first episode, her advice to Steven with regards to summoning his weapon is to focus on hard work and dedication. Later on, we find out that a lot of the things we associate with Pearl, such as her skills in sword fighting and engineering, [[spoiler: are skills that Pearls are not intended to possess, and which she has only mastered because of her own interest and refusal to give up.]] While she has mellowed a bit in the actual episodes due to her self-esteem issues, especially pretty much every flashback show shows her as nothing short of a assassin badass that cutting through gems twice to three times her size (who are later revealed to be [[spoiler: Quartzes, a kind of gem ''designed'' to be strong warriors]]) and even [[GeniusBruiser Garnet]] had been horribly scared of her at one point.point and never stopped respecting her and her skills.
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