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2nd May '16 10:27:01 AM TV4Fun
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* A good idea for a YKTTW is to take an existing trope and create one that's TheSameButMore, or TheSameButLess. This works especially well with subjective tropes-- we have NightmareFuel and CrowningMomentOfFunny, so why not Mildly Creepy or Amusing If You Like That Kind Of Thing?

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* A good idea for a YKTTW is to take an existing trope and create one that's TheSameButMore, or TheSameButLess. This works especially well with subjective tropes-- we have NightmareFuel and CrowningMomentOfFunny, so why not Mildly Creepy HighOctaneNightmareFuel or Amusing If You Like That Kind Of Thing?AmusingIfYouLikeThatKindOfThing?
23rd Mar '15 1:56:25 PM hydrix
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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the company underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this especially if your product is NSFW, since the ad server on the site is just too stupid to be able to display NSFW ads for everyone to see. The last reason is actually why they made the YKTTW in the first place.

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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the company underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this especially if your product is NSFW, since the ad server on the site is just too stupid to be able to display NSFW ads for everyone to see. The last reason is actually why they made the YKTTW in the first place.
23rd Mar '15 1:54:41 PM hydrix
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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this especially if your product is NSFW, since the ad server on the site is just too stupid to be able to display NSFW ads for everyone to see. The last reason is actually why they made the YKTTW in the first place.

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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product company underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this especially if your product is NSFW, since the ad server on the site is just too stupid to be able to display NSFW ads for everyone to see. The last reason is actually why they made the YKTTW in the first place.
23rd Mar '15 1:53:46 PM hydrix
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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this thing very well if you want to add NSFW ads onto TvTropes, since its google ad server is just too stupid to be able to display those.

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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this thing very well especially if you want to add NSFW ads onto TvTropes, your product is NSFW, since its google the ad server on the site is just too stupid to be able to display those.NSFW ads for everyone to see. The last reason is actually why they made the YKTTW in the first place.
23rd Mar '15 1:49:53 PM hydrix
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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW.

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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW. Remember this thing very well if you want to add NSFW ads onto TvTropes, since its google ad server is just too stupid to be able to display those.
23rd Mar '15 1:46:27 PM hydrix
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* Always remember that [[TheContentPolicyAndThe5PCircuit 5P]] stands for price, place, promotion, product and people. The YKTTW is just a place where TvTropes allows free product advertisement and nothing more. Naming your trope after a product, putting the slogan of the product underneath it and using the description box to convince people to buy your product is the only thing that you should do on the YKTTW.



* Finally, just launch Your Trope without regard to replies! No one in YKTTW will mind!

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* Finally, just Just launch Your Trope without regard to replies! No one in YKTTW will mind!
2nd Jul '13 7:41:30 AM Knight9910
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* If someone suggests that your trope is actually covered by another trope, there's no need to even address such a ridiculous accusation. Just ignore them completely and keep adding examples.
* If a number of responses point out that We Already Have This, and give the name of the trope your YKTTW supposedly duplicates, you have two options: you can ignore them completely, or you can explain in minute detail how your trope is different from the trope that already exists. The more minute or subjective the difference, the better. By ''no means'' is it acceptable to respond "Oh, okay then," and discard the proposal.

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* If someone suggests that your trope is actually covered by another trope, there's no need to even address such a ridiculous accusation. Just ignore them completely and keep adding examples.
* If a number of responses point out that We Already Have This, and give the name of the trope your YKTTW supposedly duplicates, you have two options: you can ignore them completely, completely and keep adding examples, or you can explain in minute detail how your trope is different from the trope that already exists. The more minute or subjective the difference, the better. By ''no means'' is it acceptable to respond "Oh, okay then," and discard the proposal.
20th May '13 10:45:35 AM prettycoolguy
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* Make sure you name every trope after your favorite example. Normal trope names just aren't awesome enough to properly capture that really cool moment you just saw on YourShow, so why would you go with something boring like HighlyVisibleNinja when [[Manga/{{Naruto}} TheNaruto]] is so much more awesome?

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* Make sure you name every trope after your favorite example. Normal trope names just aren't awesome enough to properly capture that really cool moment you just saw on YourShow, so why would you go with something boring like HighlyVisibleNinja when [[Manga/{{Naruto}} TheNaruto]] The Naruto]] is so much more awesome?



* While TropesAreNotBad, everyone knows that some tropes ARE bad. If a character or work you like shows up on one of those bad tropes, feel free to make a new trope that's the exact same except comes with a built-in-excuse, like FlanderizedButBetterBecauseOfIt or DidNotDoTheResearchButItsOkayBecauseItsCoolerThatWay.

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* While TropesAreNotBad, everyone knows that some tropes ARE bad. If a character or work you like shows up on one of those bad tropes, feel free to make a new trope that's the exact same except comes with a built-in-excuse, like FlanderizedButBetterBecauseOfIt or DidNotDoTheResearchButItsOkayBecauseItsCoolerThatWay.ArtisticLicenseButItsOkayBecauseItsCoolerThatWay.
18th May '13 5:42:27 AM prettycoolguy
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So you've carefully perused DarthWiki/HowNotToWriteAnExample and now feel ready to propose your very own trope? Some handy hints:

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So you've carefully perused You've read DarthWiki/HowNotToWriteAnExample and now feel ready to propose your very own trope? Some handy hints:






* No Trope is too general. Your Trope of The Plot is great!
* No Trope is too specific. Your Trope of DroppedABridgeOnHim (But It Happens On A Thursday) is great!
* No Trope is too non specific-to-fiction. Your Trope of PeopleSitOnChairs is great!



* No Trope is too general. Your Trope of The Plot is great!
* No Trope is too specific. Your Trope of DroppedABridgeOnHim (But It Happens On A Thursday) is great!
* No Trope is too non specific-to-fiction. Your Trope of PeopleSitOnChairs is great!



* Everyone will understand that phrase you heard on a random forum and are using for a title, so DontExplainTheJoke by giving a trope description, just write "SelfExplanatory".
* If you can find a namespace more suitable for your trope than the boring "Main/", launch it there, so people will have it easier finding it! This is especially true if launching video game tropes.
** If you can't find a namespace that is more interesting than Main/, just make one up. There can never be too many namespaces!



* Some examples may be duplicates. That's okay, leave them in anyway.



* Everyone will understand that phrase you heard on a random forum and are using for a title, so DontExplainTheJoke by giving a trope description, just write "SelfExplanatory".
* If you can find a namespace more suitable for your trope than the boring "Main/", launch it there, so people will have it easier finding it! This is especially true if launching video game tropes.
** If you can't find a namespace that is more interesting than Main/, just make one up. There can never be too many namespaces!

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* Everyone will understand If you feel that phrase you heard on a random forum and are using must provide something more for WikiMagic to work with than a title, so DontExplainTheJoke by giving "SelfExplanatory" and "HowDidWeMissThisOne", writing a trope description, just write "SelfExplanatory".
* If you can find a namespace more suitable
nice long essay on the sociological, political, psychological, historical or scientific (or some combination of them -- bonus points for your trope than covering all of them in one essay) ramifications of the boring "Main/", launch it there, so people will have it easier finding it! This underlying idea is especially true if launching video game tropes.
**
an excellent choice. If you can't find a namespace that is more interesting than Main/, just make one up. There can never be too many namespaces!write at least 500 to 1000 words, try harder -- someone might misunderstand what you meant.



* Some examples may be duplicates. That's okay, leave them in anyway.



* If you feel that you must provide something more for WikiMagic to work with than a title, "SelfExplanatory" and "HowDidWeMissThisOne", writing a nice long essay on the sociological, political, psychological, historical or scientific (or some combination of them -- bonus points for covering all of them in one essay) ramifications of the underlying idea is an excellent choice. If you can't write at least 500 to 1000 words, try harder -- someone might misunderstand what you meant.



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18th May '13 5:32:47 AM prettycoolguy
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-->* ''StarTrek''
-->* CodeGeass [[ZeroContextExample Just]] CodeGeass.
* Anyone who criticises Your Trope is doing so because they hate you. React accordingly. Be sure to use the phrases "nonconstructive criticism", "hate speech", "ignorant", and "narrow-minded" as much as possible. If they keep arguing then you can start [[GodwinsLaw calling them Nazis]], assuming you weren't already doing so. Don't worry about getting banned. That just proves you were right all along. Why else would you have been banned except that you were totally right and the stupid, pea-brained mods couldn't handle it?
** Remember that this also works in reverse. See a trope on YKTTW that you don't like, or that is competing with Your Trope? Bash the crap out of it! It doesn't matter if everyone else supports the trope, they're all just hive-mind sheeple who don't see why the trope sucks! Of course, don't forget that anyone can edit the original post too, not just the person who first suggested the YKTTW. Vandalizing it ([[SelfDemonstrating Penis! LOL!!!]]) is a great way of making your point!
* Your Trope is only covered by existing entries if said entries are described using exactly the same words. Otherwise it's probably just a subtrope/supertrope/sister trope. Insist that the existing entry be accordingly split into multiple entries, each coincidentally containing the exact same list of examples.

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-->* ''StarTrek''
''Franchise/StarTrek''
-->* CodeGeass ''Anime/CodeGeass'' [[ZeroContextExample Just]] CodeGeass.
* Anyone who criticises Your Trope is doing so because they hate you. React accordingly. Be sure to use the phrases "nonconstructive criticism", "hate speech", "ignorant", and "narrow-minded" as much as possible. If they keep arguing then you can start [[GodwinsLaw calling them Nazis]], assuming you weren't already doing so. Don't worry about getting banned. That just proves you were right all along. Why else would you have been banned except that you were totally right and the stupid, pea-brained mods couldn't handle it?
** Remember that this also works in reverse. See a trope on YKTTW that you don't like, or that is competing with Your Trope? Bash the crap out of it! It doesn't matter if everyone else supports the trope, they're all just hive-mind sheeple who don't see why the trope sucks! Of course, don't forget that anyone can edit the original post too, not just the person who first suggested the YKTTW. Vandalizing it ([[SelfDemonstrating Penis! LOL!!!]]) is a great way of making your point!
* Your Trope is only covered by existing entries if said entries are described using exactly the same words. Otherwise it's probably just a subtrope/supertrope/sister trope. Insist that the existing entry be accordingly split into multiple entries, each coincidentally containing the exact same list of examples.
''Anime/CodeGeass''.



* No Trope is too specific. Your Trope of DroppedABridgeOnHim (OnAThursday) is great!

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* No Trope is too specific. Your Trope of DroppedABridgeOnHim (OnAThursday) (But It Happens On A Thursday) is great!



* Remember, on a Wiki where anyone can launch any trope at any time, nothing is a surer sign of quality than precedent! If people criticize Your Trope, defend it by pointing out some even worse ones that already exist.
** BonusPoints if those were originally Your Trope as well.
* [[TropesAreTools All tropes are either awesome or badges of shame (nothing in between).]] Good tropes should be filled with nothing but praise and be described as defining points of "awesome-ness", while bad tropes should contain as much bile and contention as you can possible muster. Be sure to list examples according to your personal preferences, too.

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* Remember, on a Wiki where anyone can launch Another wonderful fallback when you don't have any trope at any time, idea is to make a SlidingScale. There's absolutely nothing is a surer sign of quality than precedent! If people criticize Your Trope, defend it by pointing out some even worse ones that already exist.
** BonusPoints if those were originally
wrong with your SlidingScaleOfWarRealismInSciFi.
*
Your Trope as well.
* [[TropesAreTools All tropes
is only covered by existing entries if said entries are either awesome or badges of shame (nothing in between).]] Good tropes should be filled with nothing but praise and be described as defining points of "awesome-ness", while bad tropes should contain as much bile and contention as you can possible muster. Be sure to using exactly the same words. Otherwise it's probably just a subtrope/supertrope/sister trope. Insist that the existing entry be accordingly split into multiple entries, each coincidentally containing the exact same list examples according to your personal preferences, too.of examples.



* People may not be obliging enough to say HowDidWeMissThisOne when they see your trope. Therefore, be sure to write it yourself in the YKTTW.
* Works pages always go through YKTTW. ''Always.''
* Another wonderful fallback when you don't have any idea is to make a SlidingScale. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your SlidingScaleOfWarRealismInSciFi.
* Want to Complain About Real Life You Don't Like? Say It With a Trope (TM)! Don't worry that your sole example is a TruthInTelevision, once the WikiMagic gets to work, no one will ever suspect that there were ulterior motives behind your proposing ThatStupidGuyOnTheInternetWhoWasTotallyTalkingCrapAboutTheConstitutionalityOfIncomeTaxAndWhomIWouldHaveProvenWrongIfSomeFascistModHadntLockedTheThreadWhenIStartedPostingLinks. Why, the exact same scene probably occurs in ''Literature/FarFromTheMaddingCrowd''.
* Don't bother to check for duplicate examples, and only loosers check they're spellnig.
* Under ''no'' circumstances should you explain or spell out acronyms or abbreviations. After all, everyone knows a seemingly random string of letters like {{AFGNCAAP}} [[note]]Ageless, Faceless, Gender-Neutral, Culturally Ambiguous Adventure Person[[/note]] can only possibly mean one thing, so why would you go with [[FeaturelessProtagonist a normal title for that trope]] when the acronym is [[SarcasmMode so much simpler, easier to remember, and not at all confusing to anyone]]?
** Exception: Captain Obvious can save the day with knowledge of said acronym or abbreviation.



* If someone suggests that your trope is actually covered by another trope, there's no need to even address such a ridiculous accusation. Just ignore them completely and keep adding examples.
* Everyone will understand that phrase you heard on a random forum and are using for a title, so DontExplainTheJoke by giving a trope description, just write "SelfExplanatory".
* If you can find a namespace more suitable for your trope than the boring "Main/", launch it there, so people will have it easier finding it! This is especially true if launching video game tropes.
** If you can't find a namespace that is more interesting than Main/, just make one up. There can never be too many namespaces!
* After you've launched the trope, just ignore the post-launch message and the red link on the Launches page and let the wiki-gnomes copy-paste your YKTTW contents to the new page. That's what WikiMagic and teamwork are all about.
* Good tropes are subjective. Make sure that your trope has absolutely no objective criteria, and is either blatantly positive enough that anyone who likes a work can shoehorn it into your trope, or blatantly negative enough that anyone who wants to bitch about a work can use your trope.

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* Remember, on a Wiki where anyone can launch any trope at any time, nothing is a surer sign of quality than precedent! If someone suggests people criticize Your Trope, defend it by pointing out some even worse ones that already exist.
** BonusPoints if those were originally Your Trope as well.
* Want to Complain About Real Life You Don't Like? Say It With a Trope (TM)! Don't worry
that your trope sole example is actually covered by another trope, there's no need to even address such a ridiculous accusation. Just ignore them completely and keep adding examples.
* Everyone will understand that phrase you heard on a random forum and are using for a title, so DontExplainTheJoke by giving a trope description, just write "SelfExplanatory".
* If you can find a namespace more suitable for your trope than
TruthInTelevision, once the boring "Main/", launch it there, so people will have it easier finding it! This is especially true if launching video game tropes.
** If you can't find a namespace that is more interesting than Main/, just make one up. There can never be too many namespaces!
* After you've launched the trope, just ignore the post-launch message and the red link on the Launches page and let the wiki-gnomes copy-paste your YKTTW contents to the new page. That's what
WikiMagic and teamwork gets to work, no one will ever suspect that there were ulterior motives behind your proposing ThatStupidGuyOnTheInternetWhoWasTotallyTalkingCrapAboutTheConstitutionalityOfIncomeTaxAndWhomIWouldHaveProvenWrongIfSomeFascistModHadntLockedTheThreadWhenIStartedPostingLinks. Why, the exact same scene probably occurs in ''Literature/FarFromTheMaddingCrowd''..
* [[TropesAreTools All tropes
are all about.
*
either awesome or badges of shame.]] Any trope with objective criteria shouldn't even be thought of, let alone be created. Good tropes are subjective. Make should be filled with nothing but praise and be described as defining points of "awesome-ness", while bad tropes should contain as much bile and contention as you can possible muster. Be sure that to base all of your trope has absolutely no objective criteria, and is either blatantly positive enough that anyone who likes a work can shoehorn it into examples according to your trope, or blatantly negative enough that anyone who wants to bitch about a work can use your trope.personal preferences, too.



* Works pages always go through YKTTW. ''Always.''
* People may not be obliging enough to say HowDidWeMissThisOne when they see your trope. Therefore, be sure to write it yourself in the YKTTW.
* Don't bother to check for duplicate examples, and only loosers check they're spellnig.
* Under ''no'' circumstances should you explain or spell out acronyms or abbreviations. After all, everyone knows a seemingly random string of letters like {{AFGNCAAP}} [[note]]Ageless, Faceless, Gender-Neutral, Culturally Ambiguous Adventure Person[[/note]] can only possibly mean one thing, so why would you go with [[FeaturelessProtagonist a normal title for that trope]] when the acronym is [[SarcasmMode so much simpler, easier to remember, and not at all confusing to anyone]]?
** Exception: Captain Obvious can save the day with knowledge of said acronym or abbreviation.
* Everyone will understand that phrase you heard on a random forum and are using for a title, so DontExplainTheJoke by giving a trope description, just write "SelfExplanatory".
* If you can find a namespace more suitable for your trope than the boring "Main/", launch it there, so people will have it easier finding it! This is especially true if launching video game tropes.
** If you can't find a namespace that is more interesting than Main/, just make one up. There can never be too many namespaces!



* [[spoiler:If you have a response to someone who replies to a YKTTW it is required that you edit their reply. Who wants to read a conversation? Just spoil tag the original post (now that you can't overwrite).]] ''Oh, come on. [[TemptingFate Nobody would do anything so inconsiderate as that.]]''

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* Some examples may be duplicates. That's okay, leave them in anyway.
* [[spoiler:If you have a response to someone who replies to a YKTTW replies, it is required that you edit their reply. Who wants to read a conversation? Just spoil tag the original post (now that you can't overwrite).]] ''Oh, come on. [[TemptingFate Nobody would do anything so inconsiderate as that.]]''



* If a number of responses point out that We Already Have This, and give the name of the trope your YKTTW supposedly duplicates, you have two options: you can ignore them completely, or you can explain in minute detail how your trope is different from the trope that already exists. The more minute or subjective the difference, the better. By ''no means'' is it acceptable to respond "Oh, okay then," and discard the proposal.



* Some examples may be duplicates. That's okay, leave them in anyway.
** And if you must add examples, [[ZeroContextExample XJustX]] should get the point across. After all, everyone here has read and seen all the same media you have-- if they haven't, well, [[NoTrueScotsman they're not]] ''[[TrueFan real]]'' tropers.

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* Some examples may be duplicates. That's okay, leave them in anyway.
** And if
*If you must add examples, [[ZeroContextExample XJustX]] should get the point across. After all, everyone here has read and seen all the same media you have-- if they haven't, well, [[NoTrueScotsman they're not]] ''[[TrueFan real]]'' tropers.


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* Anyone who criticizes Your Trope is doing so because they hate you. React accordingly. Be sure to use the phrases "nonconstructive criticism", "hate speech", "ignorant", and "narrow-minded" as much as possible. If they keep arguing then you can start [[GodwinsLaw calling them Nazis]], assuming you weren't already doing so. Don't worry about getting banned. That just proves you were right all along. Why else would you have been banned except that you were totally right and the stupid, pea-brained mods couldn't handle it?
** Remember that this also works in reverse. See a trope on YKTTW that you don't like, or that is competing with Your Trope? Bash the crap out of it! It doesn't matter if everyone else supports the trope, they're all just hive-mind sheeple who don't see why the trope sucks! Of course, don't forget that anyone can edit the original post too, not just the person who first suggested the YKTTW. Vandalizing it ([[SelfDemonstrating Penis! LOL!!!]]) is a great way of making your point!
* If someone suggests that your trope is actually covered by another trope, there's no need to even address such a ridiculous accusation. Just ignore them completely and keep adding examples.
* If a number of responses point out that We Already Have This, and give the name of the trope your YKTTW supposedly duplicates, you have two options: you can ignore them completely, or you can explain in minute detail how your trope is different from the trope that already exists. The more minute or subjective the difference, the better. By ''no means'' is it acceptable to respond "Oh, okay then," and discard the proposal.


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* After you've launched the trope, just ignore the post-launch message and the red link on the Launches page and let the wiki-gnomes copy-paste your YKTTW contents to the new page. That's what WikiMagic and teamwork are all about.
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