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26th Mar '17 1:14:50 PM Isaac_Heller
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** The producers have openly stated that Regina is by far their favorite character, and their first question about literally any plot idea from the writing staff is "How can we make it about Regina?" This really started to be a problem around Season 3 when the show started treating Regina as a hero, which made her seem like an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini to many fans. And it got even worse in Season 4 where she wanted to force the Author to write her a new happy ending. And with the 100th episode in Season 5 it's taken UpToEleven: you would expect the 100th episode to star the main character (Emma), but nope, it's Regina. The finale does go some way into addressing fan concerns though.

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** The producers have openly stated that Regina is by far their favorite character, and their first question about literally any plot idea from the writing staff is "How can we make it about Regina?" This really started to be a problem around Season 3 when the show started treating Regina as a hero, which made her seem like an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini to many fans. And it got even worse in Season 4 where she wanted to force the Author to write her a new happy ending. And with the 100th episode in Season 5 it's taken UpToEleven: you would expect the 100th episode to star the main character (Emma), but nope, it's Regina. The finale does go some way into addressing fan concerns though.And then in Season 6, [[spoiler: we get '''two''' Reginas taking up screentime since her good half has split from her evil half.]]
30th Dec '16 12:11:36 PM Zaptech
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* Rory in ''[[Series/GilmoreGirls Gilmore Girls: A Year In The Life]]''. She turns out to have NO redeeming qualities, she's terribly umprofessional, lazy, arrogant, [[ItsAllAboutMe INCREDIBLY self-centered]], [[YourCheatingHeart a cheater and a mistress]] AGAIN (with the ridiculous excuse that she cannot ''remember'' her boyfriend enough to break up with him) but every time she does or says something bad the show's trying to frame it as something the '''other''' party is guilty of, or something she has no blame for. The keyword is ''try'', though, as most fans don't agree with Amy Sherman-Palladino's outright santification of the character, and [[http://europe.newsweek.com/rory-gilmore-bad-journalism-528988?rm=eu some]] [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheridanwatson/bye-bye-rory articles]] [[http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/11/turns-out-rory-gilmore-is-not-a-good-journalist/508883/ have]] [[http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/lets-face-it-rory-gilmore-is-a-terrible-person/news-story/2ff78ecdc22f0b14aa26604525a5a305 called]] [[http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/rory-gilmore-is-still-a-terrible-journalist.html her]] [[http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/gilmore-girls-recap-season-8-episode-2.html out]] on all of those and even called her [[http://decider.com/2016/11/29/rory-gilmore-sociopath/ a sociopath]].
29th Dec '16 3:27:41 PM lucy24
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* Babe Carey from ''Series/AllMyChildren''. She is introduced as the new wife of JR Chandler, son of Adam Chandler, one of the richest men in Pine Valley and a common antagonist. Up to the day her character [[spoiler: was killed off]] she was hailed by the residents of Pine Valley as a sweet, wonderful person. One character even described her as a "walking miracle". Well, this walking miracle was exposed for being a gold-digger and bigamist, but worst of all a kidnapper. Because when she realized the baby she’d thought was hers was in fact her best friend Bianca's child, she decided to keep the child anyway and not tell Bianca her dead baby was still alive. She only gave the baby back to Bianca when she found out her own thought-to-be-dead child was still alive. By this point a whole year had passed with her keeping this secret. But then she proceeded to tell JR that ''their'' child was dead and then ran off with Jamie with her newfound child. Not only did several people in Pine Valley support Babe and Jamie with their crimes and deception, but the ENTIRE TOWN actually rallied around them against JR when he dared to try and fight for his son. INCLUDING BIANCA. What stands out most is when everyone had thought Babe had been the victim of a serial killer that had killed other more predominant characters. With the exception of Erica Kane, everyone grieved for her passing as though she was an important family member to every character. And everyone rejoiced when it was revealed that she was actually alive, to the point that Bianca ''actually begged for Babe's forgiveness for not forgiving her''.

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* Babe Carey from ''Series/AllMyChildren''. She is introduced as the new wife of JR Chandler, son of Adam Chandler, one of the richest men in Pine Valley and a common antagonist. Up to the day [[spoiler: her character [[spoiler: was killed off]] she was hailed by the residents of Pine Valley as a sweet, wonderful person. One character even described her as a "walking miracle". Well, this walking miracle was exposed for being a gold-digger and bigamist, but worst of all a kidnapper. Because when she realized the baby she’d thought was hers was in fact her best friend Bianca's child, she decided to keep the child anyway and not tell Bianca her dead baby was still alive. She only gave the baby back to Bianca when she found out her own thought-to-be-dead child was still alive. By this point a whole year had passed with her keeping this secret. But then she proceeded to tell JR that ''their'' child was dead and then ran off with Jamie with her newfound child. Not only did several people in Pine Valley support Babe and Jamie with their crimes and deception, but the ENTIRE TOWN actually rallied around them against JR when he dared to try and fight for his son. INCLUDING BIANCA. What stands out most is when everyone had thought Babe had been the victim of a serial killer that had killed other more predominant characters. With the exception of Erica Kane, everyone grieved for her passing as though she was an important family member to every character. And everyone rejoiced when it was revealed that she was actually alive, to the point that Bianca ''actually begged for Babe's forgiveness for not forgiving her''.
29th Dec '16 12:56:34 PM PersonalPOV
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* Rory in ''[[Series/GilmoreGirls Gilmore Girls: A Year In The Life]]''. She turns out to have NO redeeming qualities, she's terribly umprofessional, lazy, arrogant, [[ItsAllAboutMe INCREDIBLY self-centered]], [[YourCheatingHeart a cheater and a mistress]] AGAIN (with the ridiculous excuse that she cannot ''remember'' her boyfriend enough to break up with him) but every time she does or says something bad the show's trying to frame it as something the '''other''' party is guilty of, or something she has no blame for. The keyword is ''try'', though, as most fans don't agree with Amy Sherman-Palladino's outright santification of the character, and [[http://europe.newsweek.com/rory-gilmore-bad-journalism-528988?rm=eu some]] [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheridanwatson/bye-bye-rory articles]] [[http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/11/turns-out-rory-gilmore-is-not-a-good-journalist/508883/ have]] [[http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/lets-face-it-rory-gilmore-is-a-terrible-person/news-story/2ff78ecdc22f0b14aa26604525a5a305 called]] [[http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/rory-gilmore-is-still-a-terrible-journalist.html her]] [[http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/gilmore-girls-recap-season-8-episode-2.html out]] on all of those and even called her [[http://decider.com/2016/11/29/rory-gilmore-sociopath/ a sociopath]].
1st Nov '16 4:41:24 PM Kid
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** Brendon and Rachel in Season ''12'' and ''13'', but especially 13. The eight new houseguests have had virtually no screentime whatsoever unless they were Dominic or Kalia, and Kalia only because she was aligned with Daniele who turned traitor to the "Veterans Alliance". 50% of the screentime is dedicated to Brendon and Rachel, while 40% is dedicated to Jeff and Jordan, 5% is dedicated to Daniele and Dominic but later Kalia (only because she won a Head of Household competition and aligned with Daniele). The remaining 5% is split between the rest of the cast, with Porsche and Lawon hit the hardest. (Don't know who they are? Well, you're not alone - The editors seem to have forgotten they were cast too.)

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** Brendon and Rachel in Season ''12'' and ''13'', but especially 13. The eight new houseguests have had virtually no screentime whatsoever unless they were Dominic or Kalia, and Kalia only because she was aligned with Daniele who turned traitor to the "Veterans Alliance". 50% of the screentime is dedicated to Brendon and Rachel, while 40% is dedicated to Jeff and Jordan, 5% is dedicated to Daniele and Dominic but later Kalia (only because she won a Head of Household competition and aligned with Daniele). The remaining 5% is split between the rest of the cast, with Porsche and Lawon hit the hardest. (Don't know who they are? Well, you're not alone - The the editors seem to have forgotten they were cast too.)
1st Nov '16 4:38:09 PM Kid
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* In the American ''Series/BigBrother'' the editors tend to pick their favourites out of the cast and show them off to us. The problem is; they think we'll like them too and if we don't, we'll LoveToHate them. But we'll often just hate them instead. Most often, it's a Showmance couple who get the lion's share of screentime on the highlights just kissing and hugging each other.

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* In the American ''Series/BigBrother'' the editors tend to pick their favourites out of the cast and show them off to us. The problem is; is, they think we'll like them too and if we don't, we'll LoveToHate them. But we'll often just hate them instead. Most often, it's a Showmance couple who get the lion's share of screentime on the highlights just kissing and hugging each other.
27th Sep '16 10:07:05 PM TheRealBrooksy
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** In Season 18 Nicole Franzel and Corey Brooks who are the most disliked houseguests of the season are given a lot of screentime compared to the more liked houseguests such as Natalie Negrotti, Da'Vonne Rogers, Bridgette Dunning, Paul Abrahamian and Victor Arroyo to name a few.
1st Sep '16 11:13:51 AM shego
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* On ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond'', Debra is this to a good portion of the fandom. Many fans have observed that the character is a KarmaHoudini, who gets away with [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale smacking her husband]], encouraging his own children to think lesser of him and make fun of him behind his back, declaring herself in one episode to be intrinsically superior to the rest of the characters, and generally acting like a hypocrite. Despite her behaving like this, the show still attempts to convince viewers that she is some sort of saintly heroine and continually tries to shill her as being a poor unfortunate victim, despite the fact that she generally walks around acting like a bully.
22nd Aug '16 9:47:47 AM Zaptech
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* Rose Tyler in ''Series/{{Doctor Who}}''. The problem here is that the creator worship of Rose was at the detriment to the characters of Martha, Donna and even Rose herself. After she departed, there were many episodes where Rose is brought up when there was no need to, which adds a problematic element to Martha's arc as she, as a black woman, has to step out of the shadows of a white woman to prove her worth. It is especially bad in the Series 4 finale when Rose makes a guest appearance but does not actually do anything and is lumbered with a clone of the Tenth Doctor as a reward while Donna, the main series companion and hero of the story, loses her memories in quite a problematic way. Also the Series 4 DVD boxset cover did not help as Donna is shoved to the back behind the Tenth Doctor on one side, while on the other Rose is front and centre making her look like the most important character in the series.
** The Tenth Doctor also suffers with this. He could be as cruel or arrogant as he wanted and he would never learn from his actions and the narrative gives him a free pass most of the time. The only exceptions are results of his deposition of Harriet Jones, but even then he does not seem to realise that it is all his own fault.
21st Aug '16 6:52:49 AM sgtpepperony1994
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* Rose Tyler in ''Series/{{Doctor Who}}''. The problem here is that the creator worship of Rose was at the detriment to the characters of Martha, Donna and even Rose herself. After she departed, there were many episodes where Rose is brought up when there was no need to, which adds a problematic element to Martha's arc as she, as a black woman, has to step out of the shadows of a white woman to prove her worth. It is especially bad in the Series 4 finale when Rose makes a guest appearance but does not actually do anything and is lumbered with a clone of the Tenth Doctor as a reward while Donna, the main series companion and hero of the story, loses her memories in quite a problematic way. Also the Series 4 DVD boxset cover did not help as Donna is shoved to the back behind the Tenth Doctor on one side, while on the other Rose is front and centre making her look like the most important character in the series.
** The Tenth Doctor also suffers with this. He could be as cruel or arrogant as he wanted and he would never learn from his actions and the narrative gives him a free pass most of the time. The only exceptions are results of his deposition of Harriet Jones, but even then he does not seem to realise that it is all his own fault.
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