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30th Apr '16 8:42:48 AM Zaptech
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* ''Series/{{BuffyTheVampireSlayer}}'': Buffy arguably had two: Riley and Kennedy. Riley was Buffy's new love interest who was seen as a Scrappy for being boring and for feeling threatened by Buffy's physical strength. The hatred reached its high point in Season 5 when Riley felt Buffy wasn't opening up to him enough when she had both her mother's illness and the threat from the BigBad to deal with, and he threatened to leave. Buffy wasn't going to go after him until the guy received a boatload of CharacterShilling from Xander, who claims Riley is the best thing to happen to Buffy. References to their relationship failing in the future put all the blame on Buffy's doorstep, even though Riley had been letting vampires feed on him behind her back. Kennedy was also widely hated but the writers kept her relationship with Willow in the storyline.
29th Apr '16 5:56:03 PM Ciel12
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* ''Series/{{BuffyTheVampireSlayer}}'': Buffy arguably had two: Riley and Kennedy. Riley was Buffy's new love interest who was seen as a Scrappy for being boring and for feeling threatened by Buffy's physical strength. The hatred reached its high point in Season 5 when Riley felt Buffy wasn't opening up to him enough when she had both her mother's illness and the threat from the BigBad to deal with, and he threatened to leave. Buffy wasn't going to go after him until the guy received a boatload of CharacterShilling from Xander, who claims Riley is the best thing to happen to Buffy. References to their relationship failing in the future put all the blame on Buffy's doorstep, even though Riley had been letting vampires feed on him behind her back. Kennedy was also widely hated but the writers kept her relationship with Willow in the storyline.
26th Apr '16 2:49:37 PM Anddrix
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' brings us Wesley Crusher, the [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes former]] {{Trope Namer|s}}. He nearly killed the show in the fans' eyes, by being an InsufferableGenius and an admitted CanonSue for [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Gene]] ''[[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Wesley]]'' [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Roddenberry]]. Whenever the other characters weren't [[CharacterShilling praising him undeservedly]], they were [[NotNowKiddo rudely dismissing him undeservedly]], depending on which one would make him look better. Even worse was the 1987 Writer's Strike, which left the network sitting on a ton of unused "Wesley Saves The Day" scripts as most of what they had to work with. (Ironically, these episodes are generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, making him marginally more likable when he's the [[CharacterFocus focus character]], as opposed to when he's given such a large role in other episodes.) It got so bad that even Creator/WilWheaton, the actor who played him, [[CreatorBacklash hated his guts]]. He became a bit more bearable with the 5th season episode, "The First Duty", where he screws up ''big time'' by participating in an illegal stunt that gets a schoolmate killed and then attempting to cover it up, and for once he isn't EasilyForgiven, or [[IdiotHoudini otherwise allowed to get away with it]]. Instead, this leads to him [[TakeThatScrappy being bawled out]] by Captain Picard and getting that school year's marks voided. Eventually he was [[PutOnABus Put On A Shuttlecraft]] and the character disappeared from the series, only coming [[BackForTheFinale back for the near-final episode]] Journey's End, and finally being [[DeletedScene cut out]] of a [[TheCameo cameo]] appearance on ''Film/StarTrekNemesis''. It must be noted that Wil's character was 15 when he started the show, the same age as the original MarySue in "A Trekkie's Tale"; one has to wonder of Roddenberry ever read the tale.

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* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' brings us Wesley Crusher, the [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes former]] {{Trope Namer|s}}. He nearly killed the show in the fans' eyes, by being an InsufferableGenius and an admitted CanonSue for [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Gene]] ''[[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Wesley]]'' [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Roddenberry]]. Whenever the other characters weren't [[CharacterShilling praising him undeservedly]], they were [[NotNowKiddo rudely dismissing him undeservedly]], depending on which one would make him look better. Even worse was the 1987 Writer's Strike, which left the network sitting on a ton of unused "Wesley Saves The Day" scripts as most of what they had to work with. (Ironically, these episodes are generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, making him marginally more likable when he's the [[CharacterFocus focus character]], as opposed to when he's given such a large role in other episodes.) It got so bad that even Creator/WilWheaton, the actor who played him, [[CreatorBacklash hated his guts]]. He became a bit more bearable with the 5th season episode, "The First Duty", where he screws up ''big time'' by participating in an illegal stunt that gets a schoolmate killed and then attempting to cover it up, and for once he isn't EasilyForgiven, or [[IdiotHoudini otherwise allowed to get away with it]]. Instead, this leads to him [[TakeThatScrappy being bawled out]] by Captain Picard and getting that school year's marks voided. Eventually he was [[PutOnABus Put On A Shuttlecraft]] and the character disappeared from the series, only coming [[BackForTheFinale back for the near-final episode]] Journey's End, and finally being [[DeletedScene cut out]] of a [[TheCameo cameo]] appearance on ''Film/StarTrekNemesis''. It must be noted that Wil's character was 15 when he started the show, the same age as the original MarySue in "A Trekkie's Tale"; one has to wonder of Roddenberry ever read the tale.
26th Apr '16 2:18:41 PM AnotherGuy
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' brings us Wesley Crusher, the [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes former]] {{Trope Namer|s}}. He nearly killed the show in the fans' eyes, by being an InsufferableGenius and an admitted CanonSue for [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Gene]] ''[[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Wesley]]'' [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Roddenberry]]. Whenever the other characters weren't [[CharacterShilling praising him undeservedly]], they were [[NotNowKiddo rudely dismissing him undeservedly]], depending on which one would make him look better. Even worse was the 1987 Writer's Strike, which left the network sitting on a ton of unused "Wesley Saves The Day" scripts as most of what they had to work with. (Ironically, these episodes are generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, making him marginally more likable when he's the [[CharacterFocus focus character]], as opposed to when he's given such a large role in other episodes.) It got so bad that even Creator/WilWheaton, the actor who played him, [[CreatorBacklash hated his guts]]. He became a bit more bearable with the 5th season episode, "The First Duty", where he screws up ''big time'' by participating in an illegal stunt that gets a schoolmate killed and then attempting to cover it up, and for once he isn't EasilyForgiven, or [[IdiotHoudini otherwise allowed to get away with it]]. Instead, this leads to him [[TakeThatScrappy being bawled out]] by Captain Picard and getting that school year's marks voided. Eventually he was [[PutOnABus Put On A Shuttlecraft]] and the character disappeared from the series, only coming [[BackForTheFinale back for the near-final episode]] Journey's End, and finally being [[DeletedScene cut out]] of a [[TheCameo cameo]] appearance on ''Film/StarTrekNemesis''.

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* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' brings us Wesley Crusher, the [[Administrivia/RenamedTropes former]] {{Trope Namer|s}}. He nearly killed the show in the fans' eyes, by being an InsufferableGenius and an admitted CanonSue for [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Gene]] ''[[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Wesley]]'' [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Roddenberry]]. Whenever the other characters weren't [[CharacterShilling praising him undeservedly]], they were [[NotNowKiddo rudely dismissing him undeservedly]], depending on which one would make him look better. Even worse was the 1987 Writer's Strike, which left the network sitting on a ton of unused "Wesley Saves The Day" scripts as most of what they had to work with. (Ironically, these episodes are generally considered SoOkayItsAverage, making him marginally more likable when he's the [[CharacterFocus focus character]], as opposed to when he's given such a large role in other episodes.) It got so bad that even Creator/WilWheaton, the actor who played him, [[CreatorBacklash hated his guts]]. He became a bit more bearable with the 5th season episode, "The First Duty", where he screws up ''big time'' by participating in an illegal stunt that gets a schoolmate killed and then attempting to cover it up, and for once he isn't EasilyForgiven, or [[IdiotHoudini otherwise allowed to get away with it]]. Instead, this leads to him [[TakeThatScrappy being bawled out]] by Captain Picard and getting that school year's marks voided. Eventually he was [[PutOnABus Put On A Shuttlecraft]] and the character disappeared from the series, only coming [[BackForTheFinale back for the near-final episode]] Journey's End, and finally being [[DeletedScene cut out]] of a [[TheCameo cameo]] appearance on ''Film/StarTrekNemesis''. It must be noted that Wil's character was 15 when he started the show, the same age as the original MarySue in "A Trekkie's Tale"; one has to wonder of Roddenberry ever read the tale.
23rd Apr '16 1:25:05 PM blarfshnorgull
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* Regina Mills/The Evil Queen from ''Series/OnceUponATime'' became one after the first two seasons, where the writers suddenly hand her a shiny new love interest (who is absurdly quick to trust her, given her past), Henry's love and trust (despite her numerous betrayals of his trust, usually ending in her trying to ''murder'' someone he cares about and with Henry being really hurt), and new magic that came with no prior build up ''and'' requires for the rules of ''the entire series'' to be bent and broken to a ridiculous extent in order for it to work.
** Not to mention that she also has the most amount of centric episodes in the entire cast at over 30.
18th Apr '16 11:24:19 PM VerdantProboscine
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* Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In seasons 1 & 2, she was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and the source of a lot of the show's humour. As of the third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the source material) as the female lead & love interest, has taken on several of the traits that once led to Laurel & Thea being considered TheScrappy, receives more screentime than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being in the right even when she is being unreasonable, receives CharacterShilling from seemingly every other character on the show - including the antagonists, and has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Roy, Laurel and Thea are pushed OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of Arsenal, Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was Felicity one of two characters deemed untouchable (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.

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* Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In seasons 1 & 2, she was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and the source of a lot of the show's humour. As of the third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the source material) as the female lead & love interest, has taken on several of the traits that once led to Laurel & Thea being considered TheScrappy, receives more screentime than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being in the right even when she is being unreasonable, receives CharacterShilling from seemingly every other character on the show - including the antagonists, and has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Roy, Laurel and Thea are pushed OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of Arsenal, Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was at midseason Felicity was one of two characters deemed untouchable revealed safe (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.character).
16th Apr '16 2:28:30 PM ChrisDV
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* Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In seasons 1 & 2, she was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and the source of a lot of the show's humour. As of the third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the source material) as the female lead & love interest, has taken on several of the traits that once led to Laurel & Thea being considered TheScrappy, receives more screentime than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being in the right even when she is being unreasonable, receives CharacterShilling from seemingly every other character on the show - including the antagonists, and has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Roy, Laurel and Thea are pushed OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of Arsenal, Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was Felicity one of two characters deemed untouchable (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.


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* Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In seasons 1 & 2, she was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and the source of a lot of the show's humour. As of the third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the source material) as the female lead & love interest, has taken on several of the traits that once led to Laurel & Thea being considered TheScrappy, receives more screentime than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being in the right even when she is being unreasonable, receives CharacterShilling from seemingly every other character on the show - including the antagonists, and has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Roy, Laurel and Thea are pushed OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of Arsenal, Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was Felicity one of two characters deemed untouchable (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.
12th Apr '16 4:17:46 PM ChrisDV
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* Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In seasons 1 & 2, she was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and the source of a lot of the show's humour. As of the third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the source material) as the female lead & love interest, receives more screentime than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being in the right even when she is being unreasonable, and receives CharacterShilling from seemingly every other character on the show - including the antagonists, and has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Laurel and Thea are pushed OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of the Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was Felicity one of two characters deemed untouchable (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.

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* Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In seasons 1 & 2, she was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and the source of a lot of the show's humour. As of the third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the source material) as the female lead & love interest, has taken on several of the traits that once led to Laurel & Thea being considered TheScrappy, receives more screentime than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being in the right even when she is being unreasonable, and receives CharacterShilling from seemingly every other character on the show - including the antagonists, and has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Roy, Laurel and Thea are pushed OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of the Arsenal, Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was Felicity one of two characters deemed untouchable (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.
12th Apr '16 4:08:08 PM ChrisDV
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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'':
** In early seasons, Laurel. She received a ton of CharacterShilling when really, she seemed like more of a {{Jerkass}} compared to most other characters, who were busy saving lives and fighting crime hands-on when Laurel was suffering from a drug addiction, being a {{Hypocrite}}, and being the source of the show's primary RomanticPlotTumour. This mostly went away as the show gave her TakeThatScrappy - moments starting from the second half of Season 2, and especially from the second half of Season 3 onward she largerly gets pushed OutOfFocus, with the screentime that she did have being invested in proper CharacterDevelopment.
** In later Seasons, Felicity. She adopted Laurel's ItsAllAboutMe attitude, is consistently depicted as being justified even when she is being unreasonable, received CharacterShilling to the point where she was complimented by even the show's villains, and became a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of the season being dedicated to her subplots. Laurel and Thea by comparison got pushed OutOfFocus. Even Diggle only received a proper subplot (reconnecting with his long-lost brother) because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either.

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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'':
**
Since the start of the third season of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Felicity Smoak. In early seasons, Laurel. She received a ton of CharacterShilling when really, seasons 1 & 2, she seemed like more of a {{Jerkass}} compared to most other characters, who were busy saving lives was an {{Adorkable}} IT Girl with an unrequited crush on the main character, and fighting crime hands-on when Laurel was suffering from a drug addiction, being a {{Hypocrite}}, and being the source of a lot of the show's primary RomanticPlotTumour. This mostly went away as humour. As of the show gave her TakeThatScrappy - moments starting third season, she has supplanted Laurel Lance (Green Arrow's iconic LoveInterest from the second half of Season 2, and especially from source material) as the second half of Season 3 onward she largerly gets pushed OutOfFocus, with the female lead & love interest, receives more screentime that she did have being invested in proper CharacterDevelopment.
** In later Seasons, Felicity. She adopted Laurel's ItsAllAboutMe attitude,
than any other character on the show aside from Oliver Queen, is consistently depicted as being justified in the right even when she is being unreasonable, received and receives CharacterShilling to from seemingly every other character on the point where she was complimented by even show - including the show's villains, antagonists, and became has become a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of the season seasons 3 & 4 being dedicated to her subplots. In comparison, the characters of Laurel and Thea by comparison got are pushed OutOfFocus. Even OutOfFocus despite becoming the show's incarnations of the Black Canary & Speedy; and Diggle (Arguably the show's true fan favourite character) only received a proper subplot (reconnecting with his long-lost brother) in season 4 because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either.either. On top of all of this, season 4 opens with the reveal that a major character would killed off by the end of the season, and not only was Felicity one of two characters deemed untouchable (The other being the main character), but in a network-held press event after the episode with the death was aired, they specifically discuss how Felicity - not the rest of the cast as a whole, just Felicity - will handle the death.



* Megan from ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' was a massive JerkSue who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, showrunner Dan Schneider was completely unaware of this.



* ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'': Megan being a massive JerkSue who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, Dan was completely unaware of this.

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* ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'': Megan being a massive JerkSue who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, Dan was completely unaware of this.
9th Apr '16 6:17:05 AM Tropetastic1995
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** In later Seasons, Felicity. She adopted Laurel's ItsAllAboutMe attitude, is consistently depicted as being justified even when she is being unreasonable, received CharacterChilling to the point where she was complimented by even the show's villains, and became a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of the season being dedicated to her subplots. Laurel and Thea by comparison got pushed OutOfFocus. Even Diggle only received a proper subplot (reconnecting with his long-lost brother) because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either.

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** In later Seasons, Felicity. She adopted Laurel's ItsAllAboutMe attitude, is consistently depicted as being justified even when she is being unreasonable, received CharacterChilling CharacterShilling to the point where she was complimented by even the show's villains, and became a SpotlightStealingSquad with a good chunk of the season being dedicated to her subplots. Laurel and Thea by comparison got pushed OutOfFocus. Even Diggle only received a proper subplot (reconnecting with his long-lost brother) because it was tied so closely to the main plot and, outside of that, he didn't receive that much attention either.
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