History Creator / ThomasPaine

23rd Jun '16 6:54:15 PM Fireblood
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* FantasticLegalWeirdness: Paine wondered briefly if the risen saints mentioned by the Gospel of Matthew tried to reclaim their property and spouses in ''The Age of Reason''.
13th May '16 11:06:27 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. [[LonelyFuneral Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809.]] Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. Indeed, it is a fine thing to see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in English-language culture, and for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their contemporary international context.

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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. [[LonelyFuneral Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809.]] Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. Indeed, it is a fine thing to see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in English-language culture, and for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their contemporary international context.
1st Apr '16 10:26:02 AM rjd1922
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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809. Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. Indeed, it is a fine thing to see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in English-language culture, and for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their contemporary international context.

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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. [[LonelyFuneral Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809. 1809.]] Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. Indeed, it is a fine thing to see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in English-language culture, and for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their contemporary international context.
22nd Jan '16 10:09:37 PM Fireblood
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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 the FrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 in the midst of what was then called 'The Great Terror' (before the Soviet 'Yezhovschina' of 1935 was given the moniker by Robert Conquest in the 1960s), which is when intellectual opinion in Britain turned decisively against the Revolutionaries (Paine remained an outspoken supporter). He also wrote some pretty scathing things about the conservative statesmen Edmund Burke, who famously supported the American revolution but argued against the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was with seditious libel and forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it. Paine was found guilty of both it and failing to attend the trial ''in absentia'', and never returned.

In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. Paine even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, especially the Christian Church and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to get betrayed and executed himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release. Though Paine remained imprisoned, up-to six months after Robespierre's fall.

For some reason, though, Paine continued to live in France for a few more years. Despite his antagonism with Robespierre, he became equally critical of the people who deposed him, opposing their compromises to the Constitution placed by him. He also met Napoleon during this time. Together they discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons, the order of his arrest, written in Robespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are legally guaranteed to a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system.

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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 the FrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 in the midst of what was then called 'The Great Terror' (before the Soviet 'Yezhovschina' of 1935 was given the moniker by Robert Conquest in the 1960s), which is when intellectual opinion in Britain turned decisively against the Revolutionaries (Paine remained an outspoken supporter). He also wrote some pretty scathing things about the conservative statesmen Edmund Burke, who famously supported the American revolution but argued against the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was charged with seditious libel and forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it. Paine was found guilty of both it and failing to attend the trial ''in absentia'', and never returned.

In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. Paine even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, especially the Christian Church particularly Christianity and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to get betrayed fall and executed be guillotined himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release. Though release, though Paine remained imprisoned, up-to imprisoned up to six months after Robespierre's fall.later.

For some reason, though, Paine continued to live in France for a few more years. Despite his antagonism with Robespierre, he became equally critical of the people who deposed him, opposing their compromises to the Constitution placed by him. He also met Napoleon during this time. Together they discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons, reasons: the order of his arrest, written in Robespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are legally guaranteed to paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system.



* DeadArtistsAreBetter: Dismissed at the time of his death for his attacks on the Church, but currently one of the most acclaimed thinkers of his age.

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* DeadArtistsAreBetter: Dismissed at the time of his death for his attacks on the Church, Christianity, but currently one of the most acclaimed thinkers of his age.



* TheFrenchRevolution: He left England for France and was invited by the Girondins, a moderate-republican party with an internationalist bent but also corrupt, incompetent and war-mongering, which put Paine on the opposite side of [[GreyAndGrayMorality the Jacobins, who were fanatic and nationalist but also competent and anti-war]]. He was imprisoned during the ReignOfTerror and Paine later discovered that under his warrant, Robespierre had written "Detained for the interests of France and America" which led to his attack on George Washington for conspiring to get him killed. Some historians have argued that the French ambassador Gouverneur Morris who despised Paine was the real conspirator, he made no efforts to argue for his release, and it was only after the next ambassador, James Monroe arrived, several months after Robespierre's downfall, that Paine was released.

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* TheFrenchRevolution: He left England for France and was invited by the Girondins, a moderate-republican party with an internationalist bent but also corrupt, incompetent and war-mongering, which put Paine on the opposite side of [[GreyAndGrayMorality the Jacobins, who were fanatic and nationalist but also competent and anti-war]]. He was imprisoned during the ReignOfTerror and Paine later discovered that under his warrant, Robespierre had written "Detained for the interests of France and America" America"m which led to his attack on him attacking George Washington for allegedly conspiring to get him killed. Some historians have argued that the French ambassador Gouverneur Morris who despised Paine was the real conspirator, conspirator: he made no efforts to argue for his release, and it was only after the next ambassador, ambassador James Monroe arrived, several months after Robespierre's downfall, that Paine was released.



** In theory, it seems like this, in practice, Paine who was supported by the Girondins came to France because he agreed with their ideas of "world revolution" and supported their war against Austria, on the belief of invading other nations and setting up republics. Maximilien Robespierre opposed the war because it went against the ideas of consolidating the nascent French republic and it was that war, which Paine supported, that led to the revolution becoming violent and made the King's death not only inevitable but necessary as most historians point out.

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** In theory, it seems like this, in this. In practice, Paine who was supported by the Girondins Girondins, came to France because he agreed with their ideas of "world revolution" and supported their war against Austria, on the belief of in invading other nations and setting up republics. Maximilien Robespierre opposed the war because it went against the ideas of consolidating the nascent French republic and it was that war, which Paine supported, that led to the revolution becoming violent and made the King's death not only inevitable but necessary as most historians point out.



** Paine believed that the only reason why government should exist is to protect the rights of its citizens, something completely normal now that was considered to be a radical idea in his age.

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** Paine believed that the only reason why government should exist is to protect the rights of its citizens, something completely normal now that was considered to be a radical idea in his age.time.



** While not a vegetarian, Paine did believe that cruelty to animals was rather horrible. During a time when most people didn't bother to think that animals have feelings.
** He lived in a time when the major countries of Europe would go to war with each other just to increase their own power rather than any real concern over national defense. Disgusted, Paine suggested that every country should drastically reduce their military until it was only large enough for immediate defense. This, he believed, would lead to world peace. He also believed it would be a good idea to create a world peacekeeping organization to prevent wars from breaking out - yes, he predicted the UsefulNotes/UnitedNations over a century and a half before it was created. However, Paine was also a warmonger who agitated for "world revolution" calling for the French armies to invade England and America (which Robespierre and the Jacobins were initially against), foolishly believing that foreigners would embrace what Robespierre eloquently called "armed missionaries".

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** While not a vegetarian, Paine did believe that cruelty to animals was rather horrible. During horrible, during a time when most people didn't bother to think that animals have feelings.
had feelings or even felt pain.
** He lived in a time when the major countries of Europe would go to war with each other just to increase their own power rather than any real concern over national defense. Disgusted, Paine suggested that every country should drastically reduce their military until it was only large enough for immediate defense. This, he believed, would lead to world peace. He also believed it would be a good idea to create a world peacekeeping organization to prevent wars from breaking out - yes, he predicted the UsefulNotes/UnitedNations over a century and a half before it was created. However, Paine was also a warmonger who agitated for "world revolution" revolution", calling for the French armies to invade England and America (which Robespierre and the Jacobins were initially against), foolishly believing that foreigners would embrace what Robespierre eloquently called "armed missionaries".



** In short, Paine was probably in possession of a time machine, though such radical ideas weren't all that unusual at the time. Paine may have agitated against slavery but the Jacobins in France, at the height of the ReignOfTerror, [[GreyAndGrayMorality actually abolished slavery for the first time in world history]]
* RenaissanceMan: Not only was he a writer and philosopher, but he was also an inventor. He designed iron bridges as a ''hobby'', and some think he might have designed the first one used for general travel.[[note]]This is actually a bigger accomplishment than you might initially think, because wooden bridges were easily destroyed by bad weather.[[/note]] Paine also tried to invent a smokeless candle and a type of motor which used gunpowder[[note]][[JustForFun/TropesExaminedByTheMythBusters Eventually recreated]] by the Series/MythBusters[[/note]], but these failed. Paine was interested in steam power, and he was one of the earliest people to suggest creating a boat powered by steam.
* RomanticismVersusEnlightenment: He's firmly on the Enlightenment side of the spectrum.

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** In short, Paine was probably in possession of a time machine, though such radical ideas weren't all that unusual at the time. Paine may have agitated against slavery but the Jacobins in France, at the height of the ReignOfTerror, [[GreyAndGrayMorality actually abolished slavery for slavery, the first time European country to do so in world history]]
the modern era]].
* RenaissanceMan: Not only was he a writer and philosopher, but he was also an inventor. He designed iron bridges as a ''hobby'', and some think he might have designed the first one used for general travel.[[note]]This is actually a bigger accomplishment than you might initially think, because wooden bridges were easily destroyed by bad weather.[[/note]] Paine also tried to invent a smokeless candle and a type of motor which used gunpowder[[note]][[JustForFun/TropesExaminedByTheMythBusters gunpowder.[[note]][[JustForFun/TropesExaminedByTheMythBusters Eventually recreated]] by the Series/MythBusters[[/note]], but these failed. Paine was interested in steam power, and he was one of the earliest people to suggest creating a boat powered by steam.
* RomanticismVersusEnlightenment: He's He was firmly on the Enlightenment side of the spectrum.
12th Jul '15 8:56:28 AM JulianLapostat
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In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. Paine even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, went to war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, especially the Christian Church and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to get betrayed and executed himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release. Though Paine remained imprisoned, up-to six months after Robespierre's fall.

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In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. Paine even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, went to advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, especially the Christian Church and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to get betrayed and executed himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release. Though Paine remained imprisoned, up-to six months after Robespierre's fall.
12th Jul '15 8:39:54 AM JulianLapostat
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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 the FrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 defending their actions in the midst of what was then called 'The Great Terror' (before the Soviet 'Yezhovschina' of 1935 was given the moniker by Robert Conquest in the 1960s), which is when intellectual opinion in Britain turned decisively against the Revolutionaries (Paine remained an outspoken supporter). He also wrote some pretty scathing things about the Jewish statesman and later Prime Minister Edmund Burke, who famously supported the American revolutionaries but argued strongly against those of France. Burke then charged Paine with seditious libel, and Paine fled the country before he could be arrested and stand trial for it. Paine was found guilty of both it and failing to attend the trial ''in absentia'', and never returned.

In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre, however, grew to hate Paine (especially after Paine argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI) and had him imprisoned in 1793 during the Reign of Terror. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, especially the Christian Church and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to get betrayed and executed himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release. Though Paine remained imprisoned, up-to six months after Robespierre's fall.

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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 the FrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 defending their actions in the midst of what was then called 'The Great Terror' (before the Soviet 'Yezhovschina' of 1935 was given the moniker by Robert Conquest in the 1960s), which is when intellectual opinion in Britain turned decisively against the Revolutionaries (Paine remained an outspoken supporter). He also wrote some pretty scathing things about the Jewish statesman and later Prime Minister conservative statesmen Edmund Burke, who famously supported the American revolutionaries revolution but argued strongly against those of France. Burke then charged the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was with seditious libel, libel and Paine fled the country forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it. Paine was found guilty of both it and failing to attend the trial ''in absentia'', and never returned.

In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre, however, grew to hate Paine (especially after even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, went to war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI) and had him imprisoned in 1793 during the Reign of Terror.XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, especially the Christian Church and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to get betrayed and executed himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release. Though Paine remained imprisoned, up-to six months after Robespierre's fall.
12th Jul '15 6:46:08 AM MAI742
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Most of you probably know him for writing the pamphlet ''Common Sense'' in 1776 during the early period of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Paine used very, ''very'' blunt arguments in favor not just of rebelling against Parliament in the King's name, but actually fighting for full independence. Until then even the most dedicated rebels, such as UsefulNotes/JohnAdams, weren't thinking about independence - but Paine used beautiful speech and direct, confrontational arguments that swayed many of the richest and most powerful colonists in favor of it. The pamphlet sold hundreds of thousands of copies in just a few months (in fact, in proportion to the population of the time, it is the most circulated non-religious book in the USA's history), and it even caught the attention of many European countries' intellectuals and nobles (the two overlapped, particularly in Russia). Not so coincidentally, the colonies agreed upon a formal Declaration of Independence just a few months later. Paine also wrote a series of equally-popular papers known as ''The American Crisis'' papers, which famed rebel leader UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington had read to all of his militia soldiers to rally them when times got tough. Paine had to write these anonymously because these actions constituted treason. Franco-Spanish military might and Dutch finance may have won the colonies their independence (albeit as a united-ish country), but they wouldn't have fought for it in the first place if it wasn't for Paine; Adams once said that "Without the pen of Paine, the sword of Washington would have been wielded in vain."

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Most of you probably know him for writing the pamphlet ''Common Sense'' in 1776 during the early period of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Paine used very, ''very'' blunt arguments in favor not just of rebelling against Parliament in the King's name, but actually fighting for full independence. Until then even the most dedicated rebels, such as UsefulNotes/JohnAdams, weren't thinking talking about independence - but Paine used beautiful speech and direct, confrontational arguments that swayed many of the richest and most powerful colonists in favor of it. The pamphlet sold hundreds of thousands of copies in just a few months (in fact, in proportion to the population of the time, it is the most circulated non-religious book in the USA's history), and it even caught the attention of many European countries' intellectuals and nobles (the two overlapped, particularly in Russia). Not so coincidentally, the colonies agreed upon a formal Declaration of Independence just a few months later. Paine also wrote a series of equally-popular papers known as ''The American Crisis'' papers, which famed rebel leader UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington had read to all of his militia soldiers to rally them when times got tough. Paine had to write these anonymously because these actions constituted treason. Franco-Spanish military might and Dutch finance may have won the colonies their independence (albeit as a united-ish country), but they wouldn't have fought for it in the first place if it wasn't for Paine; Adams once said that "Without the pen of Paine, the sword of Washington would have been wielded in vain."
12th Jul '15 6:45:55 AM MAI742
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Most of you probably know him for writing the pamphlet ''Common Sense'' in 1776 during the early period of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Paine used very, ''very'' blunt arguments in favor not just of rebelling against Parliament in the King's name, but actually fighting for full independence. Until then even the most passionate rebels, such as UsefulNotes/JohnAdams, were talking about independence - but Paine used beautiful speech and direct, confrontational arguments that swayed many of the richest and most powerful colonists in favor of it. The pamphlet sold hundreds of thousands of copies in just a few months (in fact, in proportion to the population of the time, it is the most circulated non-religious book in the USA's history), and it even caught the attention of many European countries' intellectuals and nobles (the two overlapped, particularly in Russia). Not so coincidentally, the colonies agreed upon a formal Declaration of Independence just a few months later. Paine also wrote a series of equally-popular papers known as ''The American Crisis'' papers, which famed rebel leader UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington had read to all of his militia soldiers to rally them when times got tough. Paine had to write these anonymously because these actions constituted treason. Franco-Spanish military might and Dutch finance may have won the colonies their independence (albeit as a united-ish country), but they wouldn't have fought for it in the first place if it wasn't for Paine; Adams once said that "Without the pen of Paine, the sword of Washington would have been wielded in vain."

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Most of you probably know him for writing the pamphlet ''Common Sense'' in 1776 during the early period of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution. Paine used very, ''very'' blunt arguments in favor not just of rebelling against Parliament in the King's name, but actually fighting for full independence. Until then even the most passionate dedicated rebels, such as UsefulNotes/JohnAdams, were talking weren't thinking about independence - but Paine used beautiful speech and direct, confrontational arguments that swayed many of the richest and most powerful colonists in favor of it. The pamphlet sold hundreds of thousands of copies in just a few months (in fact, in proportion to the population of the time, it is the most circulated non-religious book in the USA's history), and it even caught the attention of many European countries' intellectuals and nobles (the two overlapped, particularly in Russia). Not so coincidentally, the colonies agreed upon a formal Declaration of Independence just a few months later. Paine also wrote a series of equally-popular papers known as ''The American Crisis'' papers, which famed rebel leader UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington had read to all of his militia soldiers to rally them when times got tough. Paine had to write these anonymously because these actions constituted treason. Franco-Spanish military might and Dutch finance may have won the colonies their independence (albeit as a united-ish country), but they wouldn't have fought for it in the first place if it wasn't for Paine; Adams once said that "Without the pen of Paine, the sword of Washington would have been wielded in vain."
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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809. Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. Indeed, it is a fine thing to see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in English-language culture, and for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their wider international context.

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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809. Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. Indeed, it is a fine thing to see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in English-language culture, and for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their wider contemporary international context.
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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809. Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. American history textbooks are beginning to give Paine proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in our earliest days and recognize how ahead of his time several of his ideas were.

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In 1802, President ThomasJefferson invited him back to America. Paine, however, was widely disliked by this period, and spent his last few years living alone and with little money. In the run-up to the Louisiana Purchase, Paine wrote a letter to Jefferson strongly advocating the idea of peacefully purchasing the land from France, which helped sway Jefferson in favor of it. Only six people attended his funeral after he died in 1809. Most newspapers throughout the nation printed a line from a New York paper's obituary: "He had lived long, did some good and much harm." Over a century later, though, Paine's legacy saw a resurgence in popularity, with some people even declaring him to be the English {{Creator/Voltaire}}. American history textbooks are beginning Indeed, it is a fine thing to give see Paine finally getting proper credit for spreading support for democratic ideals and egalitarianism in our earliest days English-language culture, and recognize how ahead of his time several of his ideas were.
for The Frogs and their wacky Revolutionary ideals to finally be seen in their wider international context.
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