History Creator / ThomasPaine

27th Nov '16 3:05:09 PM tvtropesruinedmylife22
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In 1760, Pain's wife and first child died during childbirth, and his corset business went under. This drove a depressed Pain to drink, and he started voicing his opposition to British politics and especially the monarchy during his drunken fits. Within a few years, he had added the -e- and his situation improved somewhat. Concurrently, this was the beginning of Paine's involvement in radical politics. He started writing campaign songs for politicians and writing articles in favor of reforms, such as higher pay for excise officers. After gaining a reputation in England for being a rabble-rouser and a drunkard, Creator/BenjaminFranklin, impressed by his writing skills, invited Paine to the other side of the Atlantic in 1774.

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In 1760, Pain's wife and first child died during childbirth, and his corset business went under. This drove a depressed Pain to drink, and he started voicing his opposition to British politics and especially the monarchy during his drunken fits. Within a few years, he had added the -e- to his name and his situation improved somewhat. Concurrently, this was the beginning of Paine's involvement in radical politics. He started writing campaign songs for politicians and writing articles in favor of reforms, such as higher pay for excise officers. After gaining a reputation in England for being a rabble-rouser and a drunkard, Creator/BenjaminFranklin, impressed by his writing skills, invited Paine to the other side of the Atlantic in 1774.
13th Sep '16 12:47:23 PM JulianLapostat
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** He also held ''shockingly'' progressive views regarding women for his time. Before he even wrote ''Common Sense'', he wrote an article criticizing the ways women are oppressed in society and defending their rights at a time when most men thought they had none.
** In short, Paine was probably in possession of a time machine, though such radical ideas weren't all that unusual at the time. Paine may have agitated against slavery but the Jacobins in France, at the height of the ReignOfTerror, [[GreyAndGrayMorality actually abolished slavery, the first European country to do so in the modern era]].

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** He also held ''shockingly'' progressive views regarding women for his time. Before he even wrote ''Common Sense'', he wrote an article criticizing the ways women are oppressed in society and defending their rights at a time when most men thought they had none. That said, [[WhatTheHellHero when Paine served on the 1792 Girondin Constitution Committee, he and others did not put the vote for women into the lists]].
** In short, Paine was probably in possession anticipated a lot of a time machine, modern liberal ideas though such as noted by Eric Hobsbawm, while he was undoubtedly radical ideas weren't all that unusual at the time.in an Anglo-American context, he was fairly moderate on other issues. Paine may have agitated against slavery but the Jacobins in France, at the height of the ReignOfTerror, [[GreyAndGrayMorality actually abolished slavery, the first European country to do so in the modern era]].
28th Jul '16 12:04:51 PM JulianLapostat
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Paine continued to live in France until 1802. Despite his imprisonment during the Terror, Paine was critical of the Directory government that followed. He was especially disappointed by the post-Thermidor Constitution which reversed many of the proposals in the 1793 Constitution (finished by the Jacobins but based on the groundwork done by the Girondin Committee on which Paine had served), chiefly universal male suffrage and lack of property restrictions. He also met Napoleon during this time and discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons: the order of his arrest, written in UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that then-ambassador Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined[[note]]Indeed, there is a record that petitioners on Paine's behalf appealed to the revolutionary tribunals for his release on the grounds that Paine was an American citizen, which France considered their ally, but the judge in question stated that Paine was technically a British subject since he had never officially taken citizenship with the new American government. He would have qualified for asylum status but Ambassador Morris did not give him this recognition despite staying in Paris during the entire period of the Terror and Paine's imprisonment, not even helping him after Robespierre's downfall[[/note]]. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system. Paine's other activities during this period involved founding several deist temples and societies in France.

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Paine continued to live in France until 1802. Despite his imprisonment during the Terror, Paine was critical of the Directory government that followed. He was especially disappointed by the post-Thermidor Constitution which reversed many of the proposals in the 1793 Constitution (finished by the Jacobins but based on the groundwork done by the Girondin Committee on which Paine had served), chiefly universal male suffrage and lack of property restrictions. He also met Napoleon during this time and discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons: the order of his arrest, written in UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that then-ambassador Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined[[note]]Indeed, there guillotined[[note]]There is a record that petitioners on Paine's behalf appealed to the revolutionary tribunals for his release on the grounds that Paine was an American citizen, which France considered their ally, but the judge in question stated that Paine was technically a British subject since he had never officially taken citizenship with the new American government. He would have qualified for asylum status but Ambassador Morris did not give him this recognition despite staying in Paris during the entire period of the Terror and Paine's imprisonment, not even helping him after Robespierre's downfall[[/note]].downfall. Morris was opposed to Paine's vocal support for the Revolution because he felt it upset America's neutrality, and likewise served as an invitation and endorsement for radicalism back home[[/note]]. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system. Paine's other activities during this period involved founding several deist temples and societies in France.
28th Jul '16 12:01:45 PM JulianLapostat
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He served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution"[[note]]Ironically, despite being highly anglophile, the Girondins declared war on England[[/note]]. Paine didn't speak French and did not really make a great effort to learn the language which made him dependent on the English-speaking multilingual elite of the Girondins rather than the Jacobins who were populist and Parisian in base, ironically putting the famous radical (by Anglo-American standards) to a moderate position. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued against executing King Louis XVI and instead suggested he be sent to America as a noble hostage. During the ReignOfTerror, Paine along with many English expats trapped in France was placed under arrest and imprisoned at the Palais de Luxembourg, and while in prison, he began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. He had actually began work for this before his arrest and was conducting research at Saint-Denis when he was captured. This highly controversial book earned Paine a good deal of condemnation since it put forth criticism of traditional Christianity in an accessible manner for the common man. Paine remained imprisoned for the entirety of the Terror, and was released six months after Thermidor, upon the arrival of the new American ambassador to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.

Paine continued to live in France until 1802. Despite his imprisonment during the Terror, Paine was critical of the Directory government and the post-Thermidor Constitution which reversed many of the proposals in the 1793 Constitution (finished by the Jacobins but based on the groundwork done by the Girondin Committee), chiefly universal male suffrage and lack of property restrictions. He also met Napoleon during this time and discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons: the order of his arrest, written in UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that then-ambassador Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined[[note]]Indeed, there is a record that petitioners on Paine's behalf appealed to the revolutionary tribunals for his release on the grounds that Paine was an American citizen, which France considered their ally, but the judge in question stated that Paine was technically a British subject since he had never officially taken citizenship with the new American government. He would have qualified for asylum status but Ambassador Morris did not give him this recognition despite staying in Paris during the entire period of the Terror and Paine's imprisonment, not even helping him after Robespierre's downfall[[/note]]. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system. Paine's other activities during this period involved founding several deist temples and societies in France.

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He served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution"[[note]]Ironically, despite being highly anglophile, the Girondins declared war on England[[/note]]. Paine didn't speak French and did not really make a great effort to learn the language which made him dependent on the English-speaking multilingual elite of the Girondins rather than the Jacobins who were populist and Parisian in base, ironically putting the famous radical (by Anglo-American standards) to a moderate position. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued against executing King Louis XVI and instead suggested he be sent to America as a noble hostage. During the ReignOfTerror, Paine along with many English expats trapped in France was placed under arrest and imprisoned at the Palais de Luxembourg, and while in prison, he began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. He had actually began work for this before his arrest and was conducting research at Saint-Denis when he was captured. This highly controversial book earned Paine a good deal of condemnation since it put forth criticism of traditional Christianity in an accessible manner for the common man. Paine man and this meant that it would eventually be read by a far bigger public than other anti-religious pamphlets put forth by Creator/{{Voltaire}} and Denis Diderot, among others. He remained imprisoned for the entirety of the Terror, and was released six months after Thermidor, upon the arrival of the new American ambassador to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe.

Paine continued to live in France until 1802. Despite his imprisonment during the Terror, Paine was critical of the Directory government and that followed. He was especially disappointed by the post-Thermidor Constitution which reversed many of the proposals in the 1793 Constitution (finished by the Jacobins but based on the groundwork done by the Girondin Committee), Committee on which Paine had served), chiefly universal male suffrage and lack of property restrictions. He also met Napoleon during this time and discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons: the order of his arrest, written in UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that then-ambassador Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined[[note]]Indeed, there is a record that petitioners on Paine's behalf appealed to the revolutionary tribunals for his release on the grounds that Paine was an American citizen, which France considered their ally, but the judge in question stated that Paine was technically a British subject since he had never officially taken citizenship with the new American government. He would have qualified for asylum status but Ambassador Morris did not give him this recognition despite staying in Paris during the entire period of the Terror and Paine's imprisonment, not even helping him after Robespierre's downfall[[/note]]. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system. Paine's other activities during this period involved founding several deist temples and societies in France.
28th Jul '16 11:57:01 AM JulianLapostat
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He served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution"[[note]]Ironically, despite being highly anglophile, the Girondins declared war on England[[/note]]. Paine didn't speak French and did not really make a great effort to learn the language which made him dependent on the English-speaking multilingual elite of the Girondins rather than the Jacobins who were populist and Parisian in base, ironically putting the famous radical (by Anglo-American standards) to a moderate position. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued against executing King Louis XVI and instead suggested he be sent to America as a noble hostage. During the ReignOfTerror, Paine along with many English expats trapped in France was placed under arrest and imprisoned at the Palais du Luxembourg, and while in prison, he began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. He had actually began work for this before his arrest and was conducting research at Saint-Denis when he was captured. This highly controversial book earned Paine a good deal of condemnation since it put forth criticism of traditional Christianity in an accessible manner for the common man. Paine remained imprisoned for the entirety of the Terror, and was released six months after Thermidor, upon the arrival of the new American ambassador to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.

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He served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution"[[note]]Ironically, despite being highly anglophile, the Girondins declared war on England[[/note]]. Paine didn't speak French and did not really make a great effort to learn the language which made him dependent on the English-speaking multilingual elite of the Girondins rather than the Jacobins who were populist and Parisian in base, ironically putting the famous radical (by Anglo-American standards) to a moderate position. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued against executing King Louis XVI and instead suggested he be sent to America as a noble hostage. During the ReignOfTerror, Paine along with many English expats trapped in France was placed under arrest and imprisoned at the Palais du de Luxembourg, and while in prison, he began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. He had actually began work for this before his arrest and was conducting research at Saint-Denis when he was captured. This highly controversial book earned Paine a good deal of condemnation since it put forth criticism of traditional Christianity in an accessible manner for the common man. Paine remained imprisoned for the entirety of the Terror, and was released six months after Thermidor, upon the arrival of the new American ambassador to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.
28th Jul '16 11:55:28 AM JulianLapostat
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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries, but the Tories who saw the events in France as an invitation for radicalism against England mounted a backlash, with Edmund Burke becoming the main figurehead. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 as a rebuttal to Burke's famous critique. Paine took Burke's criticism as a form of betrayal since Edmund Burke supported the American revolution but argued against the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was charged with seditious libel and forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it and was found guilty for failing to attend the trial ''in absentia''. [[YouCantGoHomeAgain He never returned to England again]]. In France, Paine was declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792.

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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries, but the Tories who political elite saw the events in France as an invitation for homegrown radicalism against England and mounted a backlash, with Edmund Burke becoming the main figurehead. backlash. Paine wrote his ''Rights ''The Rights of Man'' in 1791 as a rebuttal to Edmund Burke's famous critique.critique in his ''Reflections on the Revolution in France''[[note]]A key text in conservative ideology if actually quite weak and dated as observations on the events[[/note]]. Paine took Burke's criticism as a form of betrayal since Edmund Burke supported the American revolution but argued against the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was charged with seditious libel and forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it and was found guilty for failing to attend the trial ''in absentia''. [[YouCantGoHomeAgain He never returned to England again]]. In France, Paine was declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792.
28th Jul '16 11:52:38 AM JulianLapostat
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->''"We have it in our power to begin the world again."''\\
'''Thomas Paine'''

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28th Jul '16 11:52:18 AM JulianLapostat
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28th Jul '16 11:51:40 AM JulianLapostat
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--'''Thomas Paine'''

Some very important and influential historical figures are only known by most people for doing one thing. This man is one such example.

'''Thomas Paine''' (1737-1809) was an English-born Pennsylvanian citizen [[note]]He acquired Pennsylvanian citizenship when he moved before the Revolution and, after independence, gained citizenship of the new country that was the USA [[/note]] political activist, author, Enlightenment figure, propagandist, and radical. He was born the son of a corsetmaker, and died one of the most hated figures of his time. About a century after he died, [[VindicatedByHistory he had an enormous growth in popularity]] and his accomplishments started to get some recognition.

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--'''Thomas -->'''Thomas Paine'''

Some very important and influential historical figures are only known by most people for doing one thing. This man is one such example.

'''Thomas Paine'''
Thomas Paine (1737-1809) was an English-born Pennsylvanian citizen [[note]]He acquired Pennsylvanian citizenship when he moved before the Revolution and, years after independence, gained citizenship of the new country that was the USA [[/note]] political activist, author, Enlightenment figure, propagandist, and radical. He was born the son of a corsetmaker, and died one of the most hated figures of his time. About a century after he died, [[VindicatedByHistory he had an enormous growth in popularity]] and his accomplishments started to get some recognition.



After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 the FrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 in the midst of what was then called 'The Great Terror' (before the Soviet 'Yezhovschina' of 1935 was given the moniker by Robert Conquest in the 1960s), which is when intellectual opinion in Britain turned decisively against the Revolutionaries (Paine remained an outspoken supporter). He also wrote some pretty scathing things about the conservative statesmen Edmund Burke, who famously supported the American revolution but argued against the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was charged with seditious libel and forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it. Paine was found guilty of both it and failing to attend the trial ''in absentia'', and never returned.

In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. Paine even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to fall and be guillotined himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.

For some reason, though, Paine continued to live in France for a few more years. Despite his antagonism with Robespierre, he became equally critical of the people who deposed him, opposing their compromises to the Constitution placed by him. He also met Napoleon during this time. Together they discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons: the order of his arrest, written in Robespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system.

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After the Revolution he turned his eyes back to Europe, moving back to Great Britain in 1787. He tried to inspire a revolution against the country's constitutional democracy, but only ended up gaining the disapproval of many of his former allies. Many historians have noted the influence of Paine's writings in this period upon strengthening the liberal cause in Britain, later allowing the passage of laws which made the country more democratic - such as the Reform Bill of 1832, which gave every MP a constituency of similar population and at one stroke eliminated the infamous 'rotten boroughs' which had plagued the system for centuries. In 1789 the FrenchRevolution UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution broke out across the Channel, and many intellectuals in Great Britain initially wrote passionate pieces sympathetic to the revolutionaries. revolutionaries, but the Tories who saw the events in France as an invitation for radicalism against England mounted a backlash, with Edmund Burke becoming the main figurehead. Paine wrote his ''Rights of Man'' in 1791 in the midst as a rebuttal to Burke's famous critique. Paine took Burke's criticism as a form of what was then called 'The Great Terror' (before the Soviet 'Yezhovschina' of 1935 was given the moniker by Robert Conquest in the 1960s), which is when intellectual opinion in Britain turned decisively against the Revolutionaries (Paine remained an outspoken supporter). He also wrote some pretty scathing things about the conservative statesmen betrayal since Edmund Burke, who famously Burke supported the American revolution but argued against the French for its far more radical and thorough democratic framework. Paine was charged with seditious libel and forced to flee England before he could be arrested and stand trial for it. Paine it and was found guilty of both it and for failing to attend the trial ''in absentia'', and absentia''. [[YouCantGoHomeAgain He never returned.

returned to England again]]. In France, Paine was quickly declared an honorary citizen for his support of the French Revolution and, despite not speaking French, and was even elected to the French National Convention in 1792. Paine even served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution". This made Paine opposed to the Jacobins and during the ReignOfTerror, it led to him, along with other English expatriates, to be imprisoned when France went to war against England. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued on moral grounds against executing King Louis XVI. During this time, Paine began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. This, coupled with his earlier support of the French Revolution, led to Paine getting dismissed by most other intellectuals and leaders of the time. However, this was the first time many commoners were introduced to Deism, which up until then was largely discussed by the upper class, and the theological philosophy saw a notable upsurge in popularity. Paine survived in prison long enough for Robespierre to fall and be guillotined himself, and the American Minister to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.1792.

For some reason, though, He served on the Constitutional Committee headed by the Girondins, the pro-war faction of the Revolution who, like Paine, advocated for war against neighboring powers to "spread the Revolution"[[note]]Ironically, despite being highly anglophile, the Girondins declared war on England[[/note]]. Paine didn't speak French and did not really make a great effort to learn the language which made him dependent on the English-speaking multilingual elite of the Girondins rather than the Jacobins who were populist and Parisian in base, ironically putting the famous radical (by Anglo-American standards) to a moderate position. Paine did not win himself favors when he argued against executing King Louis XVI and instead suggested he be sent to America as a noble hostage. During the ReignOfTerror, Paine along with many English expats trapped in France was placed under arrest and imprisoned at the Palais du Luxembourg, and while in prison, he began to write ''The Age of Reason'', a pamphlet that advocated {{UsefulNotes/Deism}} while also criticizing organized religion, particularly Christianity and the Bible. He had actually began work for this before his arrest and was conducting research at Saint-Denis when he was captured. This highly controversial book earned Paine a good deal of condemnation since it put forth criticism of traditional Christianity in an accessible manner for the common man. Paine remained imprisoned for the entirety of the Terror, and was released six months after Thermidor, upon the arrival of the new American ambassador to France, future President UsefulNotes/JamesMonroe, then secured his release, though Paine remained imprisoned up to six months later.

Paine continued to live in France for a few more years. until 1802. Despite his antagonism with Robespierre, he became equally imprisonment during the Terror, Paine was critical of the people who deposed him, opposing their compromises to Directory government and the post-Thermidor Constitution placed which reversed many of the proposals in the 1793 Constitution (finished by him. the Jacobins but based on the groundwork done by the Girondin Committee), chiefly universal male suffrage and lack of property restrictions. He also met Napoleon during this time. Together they time and discussed [[NotSoAboveItAll an invasion of England, for which he wrote a pamphlet]]. He wrote an infamous open letter where he declared that George Washington was the head of a wild conspiracy that was responsible for his imprisonment. He was not without his reasons: the order of his arrest, written in Robespierre's UsefulNotes/MaximilienRobespierre's own hand, stated that he was arrested for the interest of "America and France" which considering that then-ambassador Gouvernor Morris refused to intervene and continued to do so after Robespierre's downfall, proved in the opinion of Paine, and some historians, complicity on the part of the American government to get him guillotined.guillotined[[note]]Indeed, there is a record that petitioners on Paine's behalf appealed to the revolutionary tribunals for his release on the grounds that Paine was an American citizen, which France considered their ally, but the judge in question stated that Paine was technically a British subject since he had never officially taken citizenship with the new American government. He would have qualified for asylum status but Ambassador Morris did not give him this recognition despite staying in Paris during the entire period of the Terror and Paine's imprisonment, not even helping him after Robespierre's downfall[[/note]]. At this point, Paine's loss-of-favor with his former allies turned to outright hatred. He continued writing controversial and radical pamphlets, most notably 1795's ''Agrarian Justice''. In this pamphlet, Paine introduced a concept that is now called "guaranteed minimum income," a sort of welfare program where all citizens and families are paid a sufficient living income. He also gave the world an early argument for providing welfare for the elderly and public education for children. Because of this, the Social Security website credits Paine as the first American to promote the idea of a welfare system. Paine's other activities during this period involved founding several deist temples and societies in France.



* UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution: There probably wouldn't have been much of an American Revolution without Paine. For this reason, he's considered to be one of the most important Founding Fathers.



* {{UsefulNotes/Deism}}: He was a famous advocate of it, particularly in his book ''The Age of Reason.''



* TheFrenchRevolution: He left England for France and was invited by the Girondins, a moderate-republican party with an internationalist bent but also corrupt, incompetent and war-mongering, which put Paine on the opposite side of [[GreyAndGrayMorality the Jacobins, who were fanatic and nationalist but also competent and anti-war]]. He was imprisoned during the ReignOfTerror and Paine later discovered that under his warrant, Robespierre had written "Detained for the interests of France and America"m which led to him attacking George Washington for allegedly conspiring to get him killed. Some historians have argued that the French ambassador Gouverneur Morris who despised Paine was the real conspirator: he made no efforts to argue for his release, and it was only after the next ambassador James Monroe arrived, several months after Robespierre's downfall, that Paine was released.
** There is also a question of PoorCommunicationKills. Paine did not speak or read French, and made no effort to learn the language. This put him at the mercy of the English-speaking intellectual elite of the Girondins while putting him out of the touch with the everyday French people, and so the populist Jacobins. This is probably likely, since Paine actually advocated for many of the things the Jacobins supported, the major exception being that he was okay with worldwide revolution.



* OnlySaneMan: He was this when he argued that killing King Louis XVI was immoral and it went against the principles of the Revolution. Too bad he was ignored; after this, the French Revolution started to get ''really'' violent.
** In theory, it seems like this. In practice, Paine who was supported by the Girondins, came to France because he agreed with their ideas of "world revolution" and supported their war against Austria, on the belief in invading other nations and setting up republics. Maximilien Robespierre opposed the war because it went against the ideas of consolidating the nascent French republic and it was that war, which Paine supported, that led to the revolution becoming violent and made the King's death not only inevitable but necessary as most historians point out.

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* OnlySaneMan: He was He's often portrayed as this when he argued that killing King for opposing the execution of Louis XVI was as immoral and it went against the principles of the Revolution. Too bad he was ignored; after this, the French Revolution started to get ''really'' violent.
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In theory, it seems like this. In practice, actual fact, Paine who was supported by an ally of the Girondins, Girondins and came to France because he agreed with their ideas of "world revolution" and supported their war against Austria, on the belief in invading other nations and setting up republics. Maximilien Robespierre opposed the war because it went against the ideas of consolidating the nascent French republic republics and it was that war, which Paine supported, that led to the revolution becoming violent and made the King's death not only inevitable but necessary as most historians point out.



** He also held ''shockingly'' progressive views regarding women for his time. Before he even wrote ''Common Sense'', he wrote an article criticizing the ways women are oppressed in society and defending their rights at a time when most men thought they had none. There's credible reason to believe he helped inspire Mary Wollstonecraft, '''the mother of feminism''', to write ''A Vindication of the Rights of Woman''.

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** He also held ''shockingly'' progressive views regarding women for his time. Before he even wrote ''Common Sense'', he wrote an article criticizing the ways women are oppressed in society and defending their rights at a time when most men thought they had none. There's credible reason to believe he helped inspire Mary Wollstonecraft, '''the mother of feminism''', to write ''A Vindication of the Rights of Woman''.
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* FantasticLegalWeirdness: Paine wondered briefly if the risen saints mentioned by the Gospel of Matthew tried to reclaim their property and spouses in ''The Age of Reason''.
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