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-->--''Epistulae Morales ad Lucilium'', letter 61

Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer, tragedian and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is counted among the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, if being easily the most divisive of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He is traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} less-than-Stoic facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.

On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to the Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.

The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery [[LivingEmotionalCrutch because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him]]. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning the custom by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.

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-->--''Epistulae -->--'''Seneca''', ''Epistulae Morales ad Lucilium'', letter 61

Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman statesman, philosopher, writer, tragedian writer and statesman. tragedian. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is counted among the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus Creator/{{Epictetus}} and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, UsefulNotes/MarcusAurelius, if being easily the most divisive of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}, for whom he served as a sort of unofficial prime minister.

He is traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} less-than-Stoic facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.

contain. On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to the Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.

The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an a (failed) attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery [[LivingEmotionalCrutch because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him]]. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning the custom by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.



As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control; if not making a good emperor out of him, at least keeping him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and punish corruption in Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. Seneca himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains (although again, this point is not considered particularly credible).

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero]], whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the sun and some new ones, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right even before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or maybe as a predecessor to Enlightened despotism, with his own set of priorities, or perhaps just your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

He has also a bit of reputation of being a [[HeManWomanHater sexist author]], or at least not a particularly egalitarian Stoic, considering that several of his colleagues did rise over the standards of Roman society in this aspect. It's true that Seneca shared the contemporaneous belief that women were inherently overemotional and prone to superficiality, but in turn, he also believed that they didn't have any less potential for virtue and wisdom than men and thererefore should not be treated condescendently, specifically admonishing those who thought that women couldn't benefit from studying philosophy -- all of which could be actually considered quite progressive for his age. His ''Consolation'', letters he wrote to try to console his mother for his own recent ordeals and a fellow noblewoman for her own son's death, are quite of an example of this, where he addresses them as equals to him and encourages them to keep on with the same [[SternTeacher stern tone]] he used for any of his male peers.

Interestingly, while mainstream Stoics like Epictetus absolutely abhorred their main rivals, the [[UsefulNotes/{{Epicureanism}} Epicureans]], Seneca had a special sympathy for them, noting that even if their philosophy was flawed and unrealistic, they still got a lot of things right and had several common points with Stoicism. Like Creator/BruceLee, Seneca explicitly considered that everything useful should be adopted regardless of his origin, hence his quote that "whatever is true belongs to me".

Seneca could be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous for his maxims, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and sharpness, which reflect the accomplished orator he was in life. At the same time, his writings are often [[CynicalMentor amusingly sour]], and he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political public life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control; if not making a good emperor out of him, at least keeping him out of their way while they governed. They were pretty effective rulers who issued reforms to alleviate taxes and punish corruption in Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as Rome, and under their management, management the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. Seneca himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains (although again, this point is not considered particularly credible).

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero]], whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the sun and some new ones, and although ones. Although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially added to the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, it -- and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough ''enough'' to him, Seneca's own position went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out A lot of what we know about him was colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History -- not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate -- but it's also perceivable that he did definitely act in disingenuous ways, ostensibly [[WellIntentionedExtremist for the greater good]], even before his relationship with Nero. Seneca occasionally addresses these contradictions in his letters and writings, pondering about how the absolutely ideal Stoic sage should be while at the same time [[HeroicSelfDeprecation acknowledging he wasn't one himself]]. His intention seems to have been to be the best Stoic possible while remaining an active member of the twisted Roman high society, perhaps in a way where he was content to be the gray in a world ruled by BlackAndGrayMorality.

Of course, this hasn't stopped people through the centuries from accusing him of being your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator. It doesn't help that out
of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have his career is also the least sympathetic career by modern standards: standards, as where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, involvements with unsavory characters, giving off the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued His late Christian admirers often overlooked these criticisms on principle: given that a lot of what we know about him Seneca was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that already at fault for being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right even before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways pagan, he was able to be, or maybe as a predecessor to Enlightened despotism, with his own set of priorities, or perhaps just your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind to be expected to be a perfectly moral man (his defense of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

suicide is particularly uncomfortable for medieval authors), only an unusually virtuous pagan.

He has also a bit of reputation of being a [[HeManWomanHater sexist author]], or at least not a particularly egalitarian Stoic, considering that several of his colleagues did rise over the standards of Roman society in this aspect. It's true that Seneca shared the contemporaneous belief that women were inherently overemotional and prone to superficiality, but although in turn, he also believed that they didn't have any less potential for virtue and wisdom than men and thererefore should not be treated condescendently, specifically admonishing those who thought that women couldn't benefit from studying philosophy -- all of which could be actually considered quite progressive for his age. His ''Consolation'', letters he wrote to try to console his mother for his own recent ordeals and a fellow noblewoman for her own son's death, are quite of an example of this, where he addresses them as equals to him and encourages them to keep on with the same [[SternTeacher stern tone]] he used for any of his male peers.

Seneca's take on stoicism is pragmatical and relaxed, if still notably ascetic for someone with so much power and wealth, which he explains the reasoning that it is good when one is in control of his possessions, enjoying them with moderation and being ready to lose all of them in any moment, and not his possessions in control of him, luring him to greed and vice. He constantly exhorts the reader to cultivate the soul over the body, to live with the maximum sobriety possible, and to see adversity not only as a false impression, but [[ChallengeSeeker as an actual challenge to strengthen the mind]]. Interestingly, while mainstream other Stoics like Epictetus absolutely abhorred their main rivals, the [[UsefulNotes/{{Epicureanism}} Epicureans]], Seneca had a special sympathy for them, noting that even if their philosophy was flawed and unrealistic, they still got a lot of things right and had several common points with Stoicism. Like Creator/BruceLee, Seneca explicitly considered that everything useful should be adopted regardless of his origin, hence his quote that "whatever is true belongs to me".

Seneca could be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics.Stoics, for good or bad. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous for his maxims, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and sharpness, which reflect the accomplished orator he was in life. At the same time, his writings are often amusingly [[CynicalMentor amusingly sour]], sour and jaded]], and he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making makes him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of taking a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying and putting him to try to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.
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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He is traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} less-than-Stoic facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer writer, tragedian and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of counted among the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, if being easily the most controversial divisive of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He is traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} less-than-Stoic facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.



Although relatively late into his life, Seneca initiated the customary political career in Rome, where his impressive oratory soon made him the new sensation in the Senate in spite of his provincian origin and undistinguished family. This ironically brought him the disfavor of [[TheCaligula Emperor Caligula]], who became so envious of his popularity that only Seneca's famous bad health saved him from execution, as the emperor's partisans believed he would likely die soon anyway and wasn't worthy the effort. Contrary to their expectations, Seneca didn't die, but this luck didn't improve either when UsefulNotes/{{Claudius}} succeeded Caligula, as the new emperor banished him on an accusation of adultery with Caligula's sister that was almost certainly false. His banishment was only revoked when Claudius married Agrippina, who convinced the emperor that Seneca would be an excellent tutor for her son, the future emperor Nero.

As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least keeping him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and punish corruption in Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains (although again, this point is questioned and not considered particularly credible).

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero]], whom courtesans and flatterers eventually drove to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the sun and some new ones, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right even before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he isn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or maybe a predecessor to Enlightened despotism, with his own set of priorities, or perhaps just your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

He has also a bit of reputation of being a [[HeManWomanHater sexist author]], or at least not a particularly egalitarian Stoic, considering that several of his colleagues did rise over the standards of Roman society in this aspect. It's true that Seneca shared the contemporaneous belief that women were inherently overemotional and prone to superficiality, but in turn, he also believed that they didn't have any less potential for virtue and wisdom than men and should not be treated condescendently, specifically admonishing those who thought that women couldn't benefit from studying philosophy, all of which could be actually considered quite progressive for his age.

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Although relatively late into his life, Seneca initiated the customary political career in Rome, where his impressive oratory soon made him the new sensation in the Senate in spite of his provincian origin and undistinguished family. This ironically brought him the disfavor of [[TheCaligula Emperor Caligula]], UsefulNotes/{{Caligula}}, who became so envious of his popularity that only Seneca's famous bad health saved him from execution, as the emperor's partisans it was believed he would likely die soon anyway and wasn't worthy the effort. Contrary to their expectations, Seneca didn't die, but this his luck didn't improve either when UsefulNotes/{{Claudius}} succeeded Caligula, as the new emperor banished him on an accusation of adultery with Caligula's sister that was almost certainly false. His banishment was only revoked when Claudius married Agrippina, who convinced the emperor that Seneca would be an excellent tutor for her son, the future emperor Nero.

As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, control; if not making a good emperor out of him, at least keeping him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and punish corruption in Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic Seneca himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains (although again, this point is questioned and not considered particularly credible).

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero]], whom whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the sun and some new ones, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right even before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he isn't wasn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or maybe as a predecessor to Enlightened despotism, with his own set of priorities, or perhaps just your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

He has also a bit of reputation of being a [[HeManWomanHater sexist author]], or at least not a particularly egalitarian Stoic, considering that several of his colleagues did rise over the standards of Roman society in this aspect. It's true that Seneca shared the contemporaneous belief that women were inherently overemotional and prone to superficiality, but in turn, he also believed that they didn't have any less potential for virtue and wisdom than men and thererefore should not be treated condescendently, specifically admonishing those who thought that women couldn't benefit from studying philosophy, philosophy -- all of which could be actually considered quite progressive for his age.
age. His ''Consolation'', letters he wrote to try to console his mother for his own recent ordeals and a fellow noblewoman for her own son's death, are quite of an example of this, where he addresses them as equals to him and encourages them to keep on with the same [[SternTeacher stern tone]] he used for any of his male peers.



Seneca could be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], and he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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Seneca could be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, famous for his maxims, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and witty style, sharpness, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in At the same time, his writings also feels are often [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], sour]], and he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.
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Interestingly, while mainstream Stoics like Epictetus absolutely abhorred their main rivals, the [[UsefulNotes/{{Epicureanism}} Epicureans]], Seneca had a special sympathy for them, noting that even if their philosophy was flawed and unrealistic, they still got a lot of things right and had several common points with Stoicism. Like UsefulNotes/BruceLee, Seneca explicitly considered that everything useful should be adopted regardless of his origin, hence his quote that "whatever is true belongs to me".

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Interestingly, while mainstream Stoics like Epictetus absolutely abhorred their main rivals, the [[UsefulNotes/{{Epicureanism}} Epicureans]], Seneca had a special sympathy for them, noting that even if their philosophy was flawed and unrealistic, they still got a lot of things right and had several common points with Stoicism. Like UsefulNotes/BruceLee, Creator/BruceLee, Seneca explicitly considered that everything useful should be adopted regardless of his origin, hence his quote that "whatever is true belongs to me".

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As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least keeping him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and punish corruption in Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains (although again, this point is not considered particularly credible).

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As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least keeping him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and punish corruption in Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains (although again, this point is questioned and not considered particularly credible).



Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show that he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been perhaps your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

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Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right even before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show that he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't isn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been maybe a predecessor to Enlightened despotism, with his own set of priorities, or perhaps just your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.



Seneca could also be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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Interestingly, while mainstream Stoics like Epictetus absolutely abhorred their main rivals, the [[UsefulNotes/{{Epicureanism}} Epicureans]], Seneca had a special sympathy for them, noting that even if their philosophy was flawed and unrealistic, they still got a lot of things right and had several common points with Stoicism. Like UsefulNotes/BruceLee, Seneca explicitly considered that everything useful should be adopted regardless of his origin, hence his quote that "whatever is true belongs to me".

Seneca could also be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as and he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.



* The 1951 adaptation of ''Quo Vadis'' has him played by Nicholas Hannen.

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* Creator/JohnMalkovich plays him in the 2023 film ''On the Creation of Earthquakes''.



* Seneca appeared in the 1985 ''AD'' miniseries, which was unusual for casting an appropriately Spanish actor for him, Fernando Rey.

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->''"Before I became old I tried to live well; now that I am old, I shall try to die well; but dying well means dying gladly."''
-->--''Epistulae Morales ad Lucilium'', letter 61



As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption in Roma. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

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As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining keeping him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue punish corruption in Roma.Rome. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.
chieftains (although again, this point is not considered particularly credible).



Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor carrying the weight of his people, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving a vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show that he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been perhaps your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

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Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor carrying the weight of his people, voluntarily descending to ascetism, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving a the vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure; his writings show that he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been perhaps your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.



Seneca could also be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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Seneca could also be described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} less-than-Stoic facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been is traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} less-than-Stoic facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.



The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery [[LivingEmotionalCrutch because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him]]. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.

Although relatively late, Seneca initiated the customary political career in Rome, where his impressive oratory soon made him the new sensation in the Senate in spite of his provincian origin and undistinguished family. This ironically brought him the disfavor of [[TheCaligula Emperor Caligula]], who became so envious of his popularity that only Seneca's famous bad health saved him from execution, as the emperor's partisans believed he would likely die soon anyway and wasn't worthy the effort. Contrary to their expectations, Seneca didn't die, but this luck didn't improve either when UsefulNotes/{{Claudius}} succeeded Caligula, as the new emperor banished him on an accusation of adultery with Caligula's sister that was almost certainly false. His banishment was only revoked when Claudius married Agrippina, who convinced the emperor that Seneca would be an excellent tutor for her son, the future emperor Nero.

As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under their management, Rome improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero]], whom courtesans and flatterers eventually pushed to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the sun and some new ones, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

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The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery [[LivingEmotionalCrutch because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him]]. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it the custom by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.

Although relatively late, late into his life, Seneca initiated the customary political career in Rome, where his impressive oratory soon made him the new sensation in the Senate in spite of his provincian origin and undistinguished family. This ironically brought him the disfavor of [[TheCaligula Emperor Caligula]], who became so envious of his popularity that only Seneca's famous bad health saved him from execution, as the emperor's partisans believed he would likely die soon anyway and wasn't worthy the effort. Contrary to their expectations, Seneca didn't die, but this luck didn't improve either when UsefulNotes/{{Claudius}} succeeded Caligula, as the new emperor banished him on an accusation of adultery with Caligula's sister that was almost certainly false. His banishment was only revoked when Claudius married Agrippina, who convinced the emperor that Seneca would be an excellent tutor for her son, the future emperor Nero.

As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser]] along with praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under corruption in Roma. They were pretty effective rulers, as under their management, Rome the empire improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero]], whom courtesans and flatterers eventually pushed drove to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the sun and some new ones, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.



He has also a bit of reputation of being a [[HeManWomanHater sexist author]], or at least not a particularly egalitarian Stoic considering that several of his colleagues did rise over the standards of Roman society in this aspect. Seneca ostensibly shared the contemporaneous belief that women were inherently overemotional and prone to superficiality, but in turn, he also believed that they didn't have any less potential for virtue and wisdom than men and should not be treated condescendengly, specifically admonishing those who thought that women couldn't benefit from studying philosophy.

Due to all of this, Seneca could also be considered the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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He has also a bit of reputation of being a [[HeManWomanHater sexist author]], or at least not a particularly egalitarian Stoic Stoic, considering that several of his colleagues did rise over the standards of Roman society in this aspect. It's true that Seneca ostensibly shared the contemporaneous belief that women were inherently overemotional and prone to superficiality, but in turn, he also believed that they didn't have any less potential for virtue and wisdom than men and should not be treated condescendengly, condescendently, specifically admonishing those who thought that women couldn't benefit from studying philosophy.

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Seneca could also be considered described as the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.
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* The 1951 adaptation of ''Quo Vadis'' has him played by Nicholas Hannen.
* Portrayed by Lamberto Picasso in the 1953 Italian film ''Nero and the Burning of Rome''.
* He is played by Mario Feliciani in ''Fire Over Rome''.

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* He appears in Henryk Sienkiewicz's ''Literature/QuoVadis''.

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* Seneca appeared in the 1985 ''AD'' miniseries, which was unusual for casting an appropriately Spanish actor for him, Fernando Rey.
* Hugh Dixon plays Seneca in ''Series/AncientRomeTheRiseAndFallOfAnEmpire''
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Due to all of this, Seneca could also be considered the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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Due to all of this, Seneca could also be considered the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicMentor [[CynicalMentor amusingly honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics. You could say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.
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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral [[{{Hypocrite}} sometimes clashed]] with the less-than-Stoic facts we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed against the [[{{Hypocrite}} sometimes clashed]] with the less-than-Stoic facts facts]] we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contain.



The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.

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The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery [[LivingEmotionalCrutch because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him.him]]. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.



As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act Nero's informal adviser along with the praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under their management, Rome improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually lost their influence over Nero, whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son and some new one, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position started going gradually downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor carrying the weight of his people, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving a vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - being a spectacular social climber granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure, as his writings only show that while he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, he stated himself he wasn't one. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been perhaps your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

Due to all of this, Seneca could also be considered the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels amusingly honest, as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics, regardless of whether he was aware or not. You could also say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to tackle Stoic philosophy while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately dying the death of a true Stoic.

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As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act as Nero's [[TheConsigliere informal adviser adviser]] along with the praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under their management, Rome improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic himself benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil lost their influence over Nero, whose Nero]], whom courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him pushed to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son sun and some new one, ones, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him, especially the feel that Seneca was being [[WhatTheHellHero too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He debauchery]]. Certainly, Seneca and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and anyways, when Nero himself decided his two mentors were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position started going gradually went downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor carrying the weight of his people, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving a vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - not to mention that being a spectacular [[SelfMadeMan social climber climber]] granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure, as obscure; his writings only show that while he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, but he stated himself [[HeroicSelfDeprecation explicitly admitted he wasn't one.one]] and carefully avoided sounding like such. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been perhaps your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

Due to all of this, Seneca could also be considered the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels [[CynicMentor amusingly honest, honest]], as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics, regardless of whether he was aware or not. politics. You could also say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to tackle make Stoic philosophy work while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately reconciling with it and dying the death of a true Stoic.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed with the less-than-Stoic facts we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth this characterization contains. On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.

The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was a perennial IllBoy, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral [[{{Hypocrite}} sometimes clashed clashed]] with the less-than-Stoic facts we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth does this characterization contains. contain.

On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to the Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.

The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was a perennial IllBoy, perennially DelicateAndSickly, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.



However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually lost their influence over Nero, whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son and some new one, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him among the senators, especially the feel that Seneca was being too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and when Nero decided his two mentors had outlived their usefulness, Seneca's own position started going gradually downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

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However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually lost their influence over Nero, whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son and some new one, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him among the senators, him, especially the feel that Seneca was being too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and when Nero himself decided his two mentors had outlived their usefulness, were not sucking up enough to him, Seneca's own position started going gradually downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic committed suicide.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Hispanic-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed with the less-than-Stoic facts we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth this characterization contains. On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Hispanic-born Spanish-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose admittedly excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed with the less-than-Stoic facts we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth this characterization contains. On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.



As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act Nero's informal adviser along with the praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under their management, Rome improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudicca}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually lost their influence over Nero, whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son and some new one, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him among the senators, especially the feel that Seneca was being too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and when Nero decided his two mentors had outlived their usefulness, Seneca's own position started going gradually downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic finally followed his Stoicism to the letter and committed suicide.

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As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act Nero's informal adviser along with the praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under their management, Rome improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudicca}}'s UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

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However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually lost their influence over Nero, whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son and some new one, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him among the senators, especially the feel that Seneca was being too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and when Nero decided his two mentors had outlived their usefulness, Seneca's own position started going gradually downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic finally followed his Stoicism to the letter and committed suicide.
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Rating Seneca is, as mentioned above, complicated. Out of the three Roman Stoics, he went to have the least sympathetic career by modern standards: where Epictetus was a slave striving for virtue and Marcus Aurelius a dignified emperor carrying the weight of his people, Seneca was a political animal who eventually became a millonaire thanks to his various involvements, giving a vibe of a CorruptCorporateExecutive. It has been argued that a lot of what we know about him was surely colored by sensationalism, envy, political enmities, and essentially falling on the wrong side of History - being a spectacular social climber granted him the favor of neither the lower classes nor the Senate - but it's also perceivable that he and Burrus definitely acted in disingenuous ways right before his relationship with Nero went sour. Seneca's own views on himself are obscure, as his writings only show that while he obviously had a pristine vision of what was an ideal Stoic sage, he stated himself he wasn't one. He might have seen himself as a flawed human, content with being the best Stoic possible in the ways he was able to be, or might have been perhaps your typical "do as I say, not as I do" kind of commentator, unable or uncaring to address his own contradictions.

Due to all of this, Seneca could also be considered the most human and relatable of the big three Roman Stoics. If Marcus Aurelius is the most quotable and famous, Seneca has been universally considered the best pure writer of the trio, characterized by his clarity, naturality and relaxed witty style, which reflect evidently the accomplished orator he was in life. His attitude in his writings also feels amusingly honest, as he doesn't hide that he didn't have the ideal personality and temper to be a Stoic, which likely didn't improve when exposed to the worst side of politics, regardless of whether he was aware or not. You could also say his troubled career has the interesting effect of making him almost a DeconReconSwitch of Stoicism altogether, showing what would likely be the most realistic results of a common person, neither an emperor nor a slave, trying to tackle Stoic philosophy while carrying his own baggage of troubles, ambitions and assets -- stumbling and failing, even getting lost in the way, but ultimately dying the death of a true Stoic.
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Lucius Annaeus Seneca the Younger (4 BC - 65 AD) was a Hispanic-born Roman philosopher, writer and statesman. A mainstay of late UsefulNotes/{{Stoicism}}, he is considered one of the "Big Three" Stoics of the Roman Empire along with Epictetus and Emperor Marcus Aurelius, being easily the most controversial of the trio due to his convoluted political life and relationship to the infamous Emperor UsefulNotes/{{Nero}}. He has been traditionally considered a sort of AntiHero of philosophy, an author whose excellent treatises on Stoic moral sometimes clashed with the less-than-Stoic facts we know about his political life, and from the very Antiquity there has been discussion about how much truth this characterization contains. On the other hand, he could also be considered the favorite pagan philosopher of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}, whose authors were in such an awe of him that they came to the extent of considering him to be one of their own, even purporting that he traded letters with St. Paul. His influence would be also felt among classical thinkers through the ages, from the fall of the Roman Empire to Enlightenment, and it hasn't stopped today.

The son of a lawman of the Roman Hispania, the young Seneca soon developed his own interest in the intellectual arts, including philosophy, rhetoric, grammar and religion. This might have been in part because he was a perennial IllBoy, suffering from asthma and other nasty diseases throughout his life, to the point he passed some years in the reportedly miraculous healing sites of Egypt in an attempt to get better; he once plainly stated he only refrained from putting himself out of his misery because it would have been cruel to make his father outlive him. In any case, he was a keen apprentice to several teachers in Rome, among them the School of the Sextii, a sect that combined Stoicism and Pythagoreanism, which led him to become vegetarian for a year (Pythagoreans believed in reincarnation, and it would be impolite to eat your late grandfather by accident) before abandoning it by advice of his father. Afterwards, Seneca would devote himself to mainstream Stoicism, which would define the rest of his career.

Although relatively late, Seneca initiated the customary political career in Rome, where his impressive oratory soon made him the new sensation in the Senate in spite of his provincian origin and undistinguished family. This ironically brought him the disfavor of [[TheCaligula Emperor Caligula]], who became so envious of his popularity that only Seneca's famous bad health saved him from execution, as the emperor's partisans believed he would likely die soon anyway and wasn't worthy the effort. Contrary to their expectations, Seneca didn't die, but this luck didn't improve either when UsefulNotes/{{Claudius}} succeeded Caligula, as the new emperor banished him on an accusation of adultery with Caligula's sister that was almost certainly false. His banishment was only revoked when Claudius married Agrippina, who convinced the emperor that Seneca would be an excellent tutor for her son, the future emperor Nero.

As per her wish, Seneca would return to the political life and act Nero's informal adviser along with the praetorian prefect Sextus Afranius Burrus. At first, Seneca and Burrus managed to keep the emperor's worst tendences under control, if not making a good emperor out of him, at least maintaining him out of their way while they issued reforms to alleviate taxes and pursue corruption. Under their management, Rome improved economically, achieved a strategically vital conquest of Armenia, and even advanced the exploration of the Nile. The Hispanic benefitted immensely from this relationship, enjoying a mandate as a consul and eventually becoming one of the richest men in Rome, to the point it's claimed that he accidentally caused UsefulNotes/{{Boudicca}}'s revolt when he called in suddenly a large series of loans he had imposed on the Britannian chieftains.

However, it seems that over the years, Seneca and Burrus gradually lost their influence over Nero, whose courtesans and flatterers eventually drove him to become a vicious despot. Seneca would be then forced into a very public feud with senator Publius Suillius Rufus, a rival adviser and a former supporter of Claudius who accused him of every crime under the son and some new one, and although Seneca managed to get Suillius investigated and banished for his own corruption, the bad rap of the case would never leave him among the senators, especially the feel that Seneca was being too lenient towards Nero's increasing debauchery. He and Burrus attempted to justify Nero's execution of Agrippina by claiming she had conspired against him, but few people bought it, and when Nero decided his two mentors had outlived their usefulness, Seneca's own position started going gradually downhill. After the death of Burrus, likely poisoned, Seneca was accused of conspiracy too, and upon counting his options and deciding this was the end of the road, the Hispanic finally followed his Stoicism to the letter and committed suicide.

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