History ConspiracyTheories / OToZ

16th Apr '17 2:36:28 PM nombretomado
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* The [[MoonLandingHoax "Moon hoax" theory claims that the first moon landing of the 20th of July 1969 was a hoax]], filmed on a Hollywood soundstage to fool the Soviets and "win" TheSpaceRace. (Some versions claim that Creator/StanleyKubrick was the one who filmed it.) The Series/MythBusters had a field day debunking this, and in any event there are [[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html photographs of the moon landing sites from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter]] Probably the most obvious response to this is to ask why General Secretary UsefulNotes/LeonidBrezhnev, who had a good relationship with the Soviet military, didn't immediately call them out on the fraud. If there was even a shadow of a doubt that the Capitalist Imperialists really had landed on the moon, he would have thrown it right in their faces and dealt an enormous blow to American credibility and prestige (Vietnam being more of a steady erosion).

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* The [[MoonLandingHoax "Moon hoax" theory claims that the first moon landing of the 20th of July 1969 was a hoax]], filmed on a Hollywood soundstage to fool the Soviets and "win" TheSpaceRace.UsefulNotes/TheSpaceRace. (Some versions claim that Creator/StanleyKubrick was the one who filmed it.) The Series/MythBusters had a field day debunking this, and in any event there are [[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html photographs of the moon landing sites from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter]] Probably the most obvious response to this is to ask why General Secretary UsefulNotes/LeonidBrezhnev, who had a good relationship with the Soviet military, didn't immediately call them out on the fraud. If there was even a shadow of a doubt that the Capitalist Imperialists really had landed on the moon, he would have thrown it right in their faces and dealt an enormous blow to American credibility and prestige (Vietnam being more of a steady erosion).
3rd Apr '17 5:57:06 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Biblical doomsday!]] Starting around 300 BCE, apocalypticism (the belief that the world was caught in an epic struggle between good and evil and that good would eventually triumph any day now) took hold in Judaism. Writings of near-future apocalypses and other types of apocalypses became a literary genre in their own right; the Book of Daniel was just one of ''many'' that cropped up during this period. This only accelerated with the birth of Christianity, especially after the 19th century introduction of the concept of [[CaughtUpInTheRapture the Rapture]] to the world of theology. For centuries, people have been tripping over themselves in their excitement to see it arrive as soon as possible. Despite calculation after calculation failing to deliver on its promise of TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, the conspiratorially-minded have been re-estimating their numbers despite failing so many times.

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* [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Biblical doomsday!]] Starting around 300 BCE, apocalypticism (the belief that the world was caught in an epic struggle between good and evil and that good would eventually triumph any day now) took hold in Judaism. Writings of near-future apocalypses and other types of apocalypses became a literary genre in their own right; the Book of Daniel was just one of ''many'' that cropped up during this period. This only accelerated with the birth of Christianity, especially after the 19th century introduction of the concept of [[CaughtUpInTheRapture the Rapture]] to the world of theology. For centuries, people have been tripping over themselves in their excitement to see it arrive as soon as possible. Despite calculation after calculation failing to deliver on its promise of TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, the conspiratorially-minded have been re-estimating their numbers despite failing so many times.\\
31st Mar '17 4:01:33 PM nombretomado
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* Many claims that [insert current bogeyman of choice here] is TheAntichrist. Past and present examples have included Saddam Hussein, Ayatollah Khomeini, OsamaBinLaden, Mikhail Gorbachev, UsefulNotes/ThePope, and [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent whoever the current President is]].

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* Many claims that [insert current bogeyman of choice here] is TheAntichrist. Past and present examples have included Saddam Hussein, Ayatollah Khomeini, OsamaBinLaden, UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden, Mikhail Gorbachev, UsefulNotes/ThePope, and [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent whoever the current President is]].
31st Mar '17 4:00:49 PM nombretomado
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** The U.S.'s EnemyMine alliance with Islamic militants during the UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan has led to conspiracy theories that the Taliban and/or al-Qaeda are actually CIA puppets. This, of course, would make 9/11 and the entire War on Terror into a gigantic FalseFlagOperation. Many who believe this don't seem to be aware that American support for the anti-Soviet mujahideen is widely acknowledged and will act as though citing evidence of it proves the conspiracy version. This theory probably got its start with Creator/MichaelMoore[='s=] ''Film/BowlingForColumbine'', which alleged that OsamaBinLaden was trained by the CIA. While Moore doesn't go so far as to claim that Bin Laden was actually working for the CIA when he perpetrated 9/11, he makes it rather easy for the viewer to make that leap.

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** The U.S.'s EnemyMine alliance with Islamic militants during the UsefulNotes/SovietInvasionOfAfghanistan has led to conspiracy theories that the Taliban and/or al-Qaeda are actually CIA puppets. This, of course, would make 9/11 and the entire War on Terror into a gigantic FalseFlagOperation. Many who believe this don't seem to be aware that American support for the anti-Soviet mujahideen is widely acknowledged and will act as though citing evidence of it proves the conspiracy version. This theory probably got its start with Creator/MichaelMoore[='s=] ''Film/BowlingForColumbine'', which alleged that OsamaBinLaden UsefulNotes/OsamaBinLaden was trained by the CIA. While Moore doesn't go so far as to claim that Bin Laden was actually working for the CIA when he perpetrated 9/11, he makes it rather easy for the viewer to make that leap.
16th Mar '17 5:20:49 AM MrCandle
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The theory goes like this: somehow, the magical divinatory powers of numerology can be used to take random passages from Literature/TheBible, add them up, maybe multiply or divide, and get the name of the TheAntichrist, his most secret intentions, his right-hand man, the country he'll be born in, his shoe-size, and the exact date of when the world will end. It's such a persistent idea that even the most brilliant people have bought into it -- UsefulNotes/IsaacNewton was particularly obsessed with it, going so far as to translate the Book of Daniel from Hebrew himself in order to be absolutely ''certain'' of his predictions. As for how accurate those predictions were, we'll just have to wait and see.

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The theory goes like this: somehow, the magical divinatory powers of numerology can be used to take random passages from Literature/TheBible, add them up, maybe multiply or divide, and get the name of the TheAntichrist, his most secret intentions, his right-hand man, the country he'll be born in, his shoe-size, and the exact date of when the world will end.end, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking his shoe size]]. It's such a persistent idea that even the most brilliant people have bought into it -- UsefulNotes/IsaacNewton was particularly obsessed with it, going so far as to translate the Book of Daniel from Hebrew himself in order to be absolutely ''certain'' of his predictions. As for how accurate those predictions were, we'll just have to wait and see.
7th Feb '17 8:40:28 PM MAI742
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* The [[MoonLandingHoax "Moon hoax" theory claims that the first moon landing of the 20th of July 1969 was a hoax]], filmed on a Hollywood soundstage to fool the Russians and "win" TheSpaceRace. (Some versions claim that Creator/StanleyKubrick was the one who filmed it.) The Series/MythBusters had a field day debunking this, and in any event there are [[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html photographs of the moon landing sites from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter]] Probably the most obvious response to this is to ask why General Secreatry UsefulNotes/LeonidBrezhnev, who had a good relationship with the Soviet military, didn't immediately call them out on the fraud. If there was even a shadow of a doubt that the Capitalist Imperialists really had landed on the moon, he would have thrown it right in their faces and dealt an enormous blow to American credibility and prestige (Vietnam being more of a steady erosion).

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* The [[MoonLandingHoax "Moon hoax" theory claims that the first moon landing of the 20th of July 1969 was a hoax]], filmed on a Hollywood soundstage to fool the Russians Soviets and "win" TheSpaceRace. (Some versions claim that Creator/StanleyKubrick was the one who filmed it.) The Series/MythBusters had a field day debunking this, and in any event there are [[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html photographs of the moon landing sites from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter]] Probably the most obvious response to this is to ask why General Secreatry Secretary UsefulNotes/LeonidBrezhnev, who had a good relationship with the Soviet military, didn't immediately call them out on the fraud. If there was even a shadow of a doubt that the Capitalist Imperialists really had landed on the moon, he would have thrown it right in their faces and dealt an enormous blow to American credibility and prestige (Vietnam being more of a steady erosion).
7th Feb '17 8:37:19 PM MAI742
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* The [[MoonLandingHoax "Moon hoax" theory claims that the moon landing was a hoax]], filmed on a Hollywood soundstage to fool the Russians and "win" TheSpaceRace. (Some versions claim that Creator/StanleyKubrick was the one who filmed it.) The Series/MythBusters had a field day debunking this, and in any event there are [[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html photographs of the moon landing sites from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter]] Probably the most obvious response to this is to ask why the Soviets, who were perfectly capable of watching American spacecraft, didn't call them out on the fraud. If there was even a shadow of a doubt that the Americans really had landed on the moon, the Soviets would have thrown it right in their faces and scored an enormous propaganda victory.

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* The [[MoonLandingHoax "Moon hoax" theory claims that the first moon landing of the 20th of July 1969 was a hoax]], filmed on a Hollywood soundstage to fool the Russians and "win" TheSpaceRace. (Some versions claim that Creator/StanleyKubrick was the one who filmed it.) The Series/MythBusters had a field day debunking this, and in any event there are [[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html photographs of the moon landing sites from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter]] Probably the most obvious response to this is to ask why General Secreatry UsefulNotes/LeonidBrezhnev, who had a good relationship with the Soviets, who were perfectly capable of watching American spacecraft, Soviet military, didn't immediately call them out on the fraud. If there was even a shadow of a doubt that the Americans Capitalist Imperialists really had landed on the moon, the Soviets he would have thrown it right in their faces and scored dealt an enormous propaganda victory.blow to American credibility and prestige (Vietnam being more of a steady erosion).
17th Jan '17 3:48:53 PM AnoneMouseJr
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** To give an overveiw of the claims, when the US went off the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard gold standard]] and backed its money with the "full faith and credit" of the government, what they in fact were doing was using the potential future earning of its citizenry as collateral. How do they do this? At birth every citizen has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_person legal entity]] secretly created for them called a "straw man"[[note]] nothing to do with [[TheWarOnStraw that sort of straw]] [[/note]]. For each straw man a secret account is set up which holds an amount of money based on potential earnings (the amount varies depending on who's telling the tale). Whats the proof? Well, when you are born you are usually given a birth certificate with your name in all capitals. This is the name of the straw man, since most people only capitalize the first letters of their names. Therefore the birth certificate is some proof of the goverment's ownership over the person's straw man. Furthermore, the movement claims that by filling out the proper paperwork you can borrow money and/or transfer debts and taxation obligations to the straw man.

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** To give an overveiw of the claims, when the US went off the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard gold standard]] and backed its money with the "full faith and credit" of the government, what they in fact were doing was using the potential future earning of its citizenry as collateral. How do they do this? At birth every citizen has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_person legal entity]] secretly created for them called a "straw man"[[note]] nothing to do with [[TheWarOnStraw that sort of straw]] [[/note]]. For each straw man a secret account is set up which holds an amount of money based on potential earnings (the amount varies depending on who's telling the tale). Whats What's the proof? Well, when you are born you are usually given a birth certificate with your name in all capitals. This is the name of the straw man, since most people only capitalize the first letters of their names. Therefore the birth certificate is some proof of the goverment's ownership over the person's straw man. Furthermore, the movement claims that by filling out the proper paperwork you can borrow money and/or transfer debts and taxation obligations to the straw man.



* Belgian politician ''Leon Degrelle'' has developped an entire set of those when he fled Belgium and installed himself in Spain to evade a punishment due to collaborating with the Germans. Although most of his conspiracies are hard to understand (and even harder to debunk) without very detailed knowledge of UsefulNotes/WorldWar2, some of them are not. The fact that he was a target of actual conspiracies does not help matters either. Below there are some theories that he propagated.

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* Belgian politician ''Leon Degrelle'' has developped developed an entire set of those when he fled Belgium and installed himself in Spain to evade a punishment due to collaborating with the Germans. Although most of his conspiracies are hard to understand (and even harder to debunk) without very detailed knowledge of UsefulNotes/WorldWar2, some of them are not. The fact that he was a target of actual conspiracies does not help matters either. Below there are some theories that he propagated.
4th Jan '17 8:09:18 AM AgProv
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*** We do have to remember that this was less than 15 years after Charles Lindbergh's famous solo flight across the Atlantic and less than four decades after the flight of the Wright brothers; aircraft technology was pretty new. Only a handful of people thought it was ''possible'' for such an attack to occur. While the US intelligence did rightly believe that an attack was imminent and knew the Japanese were planning something, all intelligence they did have suggested they were going to attack the Philippines (and remember, the Japanese ''did'' attack the Philippines too). The idea that they would travel halfway through the largest ocean on the planet and attack a military base thousands of miles away from them was at the time nearly unthinkable. Pretty much everyone was genuinely shocked when it actually happened.

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*** We do have to remember that this was less than 15 years after Charles Lindbergh's famous solo flight across the Atlantic and less than four decades after the flight of the Wright brothers; aircraft technology was pretty new. Only a handful of people thought it was ''possible'' for such an attack to occur. [[note]]Despite the fact the British did something similar to the Italian home naval base at Taranto, with carrier-borne planes which sank or crippled quite a lot of ships, a year or so previously. The Japanese military mission in Italy were very interested.[[/note]] While the US intelligence did rightly believe that an attack was imminent and knew the Japanese were planning something, all intelligence they did have suggested they were going to attack the Philippines (and remember, the Japanese ''did'' attack the Philippines too). The idea that they would travel halfway through the largest ocean on the planet and attack a military base thousands of miles away from them was at the time nearly unthinkable. Pretty much everyone was genuinely shocked when it actually happened.


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** This has also been alleged to be a reason why the British did not inform the Republic of Ireland about a massive breach of neutrality that resulted in Dublin being bombed by the Luftwaffe, for three straight nights. To do so would have alerted the Germans to their Enigma codes being compromised, and in any case, the conspiracy goes, anything that alienated the Irish from entering the German camp and tilted them towards the British was welcome. An expanded version of this theory holds that the British actually ''engineered'' these raids, by interfering with Luftwaffe radio-guidance systems that would have steered their bombers over Manchester and Liverpool, putting up false signals that indicated Dublin was the target. Post-war Germany apologised for the Dublin raids and paid massive compensation, blaming "navigational errors". For three straight nights? And wouldn't they have noticed longer flying times and unexpected expenditure in fuel? [[note]]Another theory suggests Hitler was incensed at the Irish breaking neutrality by sending all available fire engines, ambulances, medical teams, et c, across the border as a humanitarian gesture following heavy bombing of Belfast and Londonderry, and opening its hospitals to casualties who included British service personnel. Hitler wanted to send a definite warning to Ireland to stay newutral.[[/note]]
24th Dec '16 3:00:20 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** ''Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook'' had a rather similar ending in a sketch wherein three people plotted to fake the moon landing. They concluded that, since it would actually be cheaper to send people to the moon (given that they'd need to build the largest cost, the massive rocket, anyway to make it look authentic and catering for three astronauts would be less expensive than catering for a film crew), they should fake the moon landing footage on the moon.

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** ''Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook'' had a rather similar ending in a sketch wherein three people plotted to fake the moon landing. They concluded that, since it would actually be cheaper to send people to the moon (given that they'd need to build the largest cost, most expensive thing- the massive rocket, Saturn V rocket- anyway to make it look authentic and catering the other expenses ["mainly catering"] would be cheaper to provide for three astronauts would be less expensive for the duration of a mission than catering for a an film crew), crew for the duration of a shoot), they should fake the moon landing footage on the moon.
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