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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia al Ghul left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the Red Hood to his adopted father and former mentor, ComicBook/{{Batman}}.
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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of [[ComicBook/RedHood Jason Peter Todd, Todd]], the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia al Ghul left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the Red Hood to his adopted father and former mentor, ComicBook/{{Batman}}.
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->''My [[ComicBook/RasAlGhul father]] was '''right'''. I've unleashed a curse upon this world.''
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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when ComicBook/TaliaAlGhul left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the ComicBook/RedHood to his adopted father and former mentor, ComicBook/{{Batman}}.
It starts with ComicBook/RasAlGhul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
It starts with ComicBook/RasAlGhul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when ComicBook/TaliaAlGhul Talia al Ghul left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the ComicBook/RedHood Red Hood to his adopted father and former mentor, ComicBook/{{Batman}}.
It starts withComicBook/RasAlGhul Ra's al Ghul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
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* ChokeHolds: The story begins with Ra giving one to Talia, furious that she had Jason use the Lazarus Pit and allowed him to escape, and telling her if she were anyone else he would have her killed.
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* ChokeHolds: The story begins with Ra giving one to Talia, furious that she had Jason use the Lazarus Pit and allowed him to escape, and telling her if she were anyone else else, he would have her killed.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his near-catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason doesn't know this.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his near-catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, ComicBook/{{Robin}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason doesn't know this.
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* LackOfEmpathy: When Ra informs Talia about Robin's death at the hands of Joker, Talia immediately starts worrying about Bruce's well-being and is convinced Jason's death will greatly torment him while Ra [[EvilCannotComprehendGood cannot conceive a warrior such a Batman would be shaken by single death]]. He even forbids Talia about contacting Bruce over such a "small matter".
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* LackOfEmpathy: When Ra Ra's informs Talia about Robin's death at the hands of Joker, Talia immediately starts worrying about Bruce's well-being and is convinced Jason's death will greatly torment him while Ra Ra's [[EvilCannotComprehendGood cannot conceive a warrior such a Batman would be shaken by single death]]. He even forbids Talia about contacting Bruce over such a "small matter".
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* PayEvilUntoEvil: After Jason's [[CameBackWrong return to life made him somewhat psychotic and vindictice]], he begins to adopt this philosophy by going after criminals and killing them. Talia encourages this behavior since it allows him to channel his anger somewhere she considers to be productive.
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* PayEvilUntoEvil: After Jason's [[CameBackWrong return to life made him somewhat psychotic and vindictice]], vindictive]], he begins to adopt this philosophy by going after criminals and killing them. Talia encourages this behavior since it allows him to channel his anger somewhere she considers to be productive.
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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the ComicBook/RedHood to his adopted father and former mentor.
It starts with Ra's al Ghul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
It starts with Ra's al Ghul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia ComicBook/TaliaAlGhul left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the ComicBook/RedHood to his adopted father and former mentor.mentor, ComicBook/{{Batman}}.
It starts withRa's al Ghul ComicBook/RasAlGhul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
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* BilingualBackfire: Egon whispers in German when he wants to talk to his men about something he doesn't want Jason to hear. But Jason knows how to speak ''and'' [[ReadingLips how to read lips]].
* ChokeHolds: The story begins with Ra giving one to Talia, furious that she had Jason use the Lazarus Pit and allowed him to escape, and telling her if she were anyone else he would have her killed.
* ContinuityNod:
** Talia is noticeably different in the final issue of the story than in all her other appearances, being much more distressed and hostile towards Bruce, since the issue takes place after the ''Batman: Death and the Maidens'' StoryArc, where Talia was tortured and driven insane by her sister and Ra got KilledOffForReal, causing Talia to have a FaceHeelTurn and turn on Bruce.
** Hush has a brief [[TheCameo cameo]] in the final issue where he talks to Jason about Batman's SecretIdentity, asking Jason if what Riddler found out (that Bruce Wayne is Batman) is true, which happens in ''ComicBook/BatmanHush'' StoryArc.
** Talia is noticeably different in the final issue of the story than in all her other appearances, being much more distressed and hostile towards Bruce, since the issue takes place after the ''Batman: Death and the Maidens'' StoryArc, where Talia was tortured and driven insane by her sister and Ra got KilledOffForReal, causing Talia to have a FaceHeelTurn and turn on Bruce.
** Hush has a brief [[TheCameo cameo]] in the final issue where he talks to Jason about Batman's SecretIdentity, asking Jason if what Riddler found out (that Bruce Wayne is Batman) is true, which happens in ''ComicBook/BatmanHush'' StoryArc.
* FriendsWithBenefits: Talia seems to have a similar arrangement with her main henchman. They sleep together, but it's made very clear she only has romantic feelings for Bruce.
* {{Fundoshi}}: Ra wears one when he bathes in the Lazarus Pit.
* {{Fundoshi}}: Ra wears one when he bathes in the Lazarus Pit.
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* InTheHood: Prior to acquiring his helmet.
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* InTheHood: Prior Jason wore this prior to acquiring his helmet.helmet.
* LackOfEmpathy: When Ra informs Talia about Robin's death at the hands of Joker, Talia immediately starts worrying about Bruce's well-being and is convinced Jason's death will greatly torment him while Ra [[EvilCannotComprehendGood cannot conceive a warrior such a Batman would be shaken by single death]]. He even forbids Talia about contacting Bruce over such a "small matter".
* TheMafiya: The Ivgene Clan is a Russian mobsters group that was planning a terrorist bomb attack on London and [[FalseFlagAttack pinning the blame on its Arab citizens]]. Jason manages to take them down without causing an international incident.
* LackOfEmpathy: When Ra informs Talia about Robin's death at the hands of Joker, Talia immediately starts worrying about Bruce's well-being and is convinced Jason's death will greatly torment him while Ra [[EvilCannotComprehendGood cannot conceive a warrior such a Batman would be shaken by single death]]. He even forbids Talia about contacting Bruce over such a "small matter".
* TheMafiya: The Ivgene Clan is a Russian mobsters group that was planning a terrorist bomb attack on London and [[FalseFlagAttack pinning the blame on its Arab citizens]]. Jason manages to take them down without causing an international incident.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Among other things Jason pretends not to know German which allows him to eavesdrop and lip read to discover some of his mentors' wrongdoings.
* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his near catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason doesn't know this.
* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his near catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason doesn't know this.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Talia starts to have this reaction as she watches how psychopathic Jason is becoming.
* MrSmith: Jason was under the name "John Doe" when Ra's men first find him.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Among other things Jason pretends not to know German which allows him to eavesdrop and lip read to discover some of his mentors'wrongdoings.
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* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Egon makes it clear to Jason he has no interest in him nor any loyalty to Talia, he's only mentoring Jason for the money.
* PayEvilUntoEvil: After Jason's [[CameBackWrong return to life made him somewhat psychotic and vindictice]], he begins to adopt this philosophy by going after criminals and killing them. Talia encourages this behavior since it allows him to channel his anger somewhere she considers to be productive.
* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in hisnear catatonic near-catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason doesn't know this.
* MrSmith: Jason was under the name "John Doe" when Ra's men first find him.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Among other things Jason pretends not to know German which allows him to eavesdrop and lip read to discover some of his mentors'
* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Egon makes it clear to Jason he has no interest in him nor any loyalty to Talia, he's only mentoring Jason for the money.
* PayEvilUntoEvil: After Jason's [[CameBackWrong return to life made him somewhat psychotic and vindictice]], he begins to adopt this philosophy by going after criminals and killing them. Talia encourages this behavior since it allows him to channel his anger somewhere she considers to be productive.
* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his
* SexForSolace: Talia and Jason end up sleeping together in the final issue after bonding over how Bruce hurt them (It's implied the issue takes place after the ''Batman: Death and the Maidens'' StoryArc, whose events caused Talia to turn on Bruce).
* SexyDiscretionShot: Talia and Jason both fall into bed and start kissing. Then the scene cuts the morning after, with Jason waking up alone in bed and [[NotStayingForBreakfast Talia being long gone]].
* SingleTear: When Talia informs the catatonic Jason about how much Bruce is hurting, Jason doesn't emote save for a single tear streaking down his face.
* SexyDiscretionShot: Talia and Jason both fall into bed and start kissing. Then the scene cuts the morning after, with Jason waking up alone in bed and [[NotStayingForBreakfast Talia being long gone]].
* SingleTear: When Talia informs the catatonic Jason about how much Bruce is hurting, Jason doesn't emote save for a single tear streaking down his face.
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* SoullessShell: What Ra's thinks Jason is before the Pit, however at least once he started crying so there was some emotion in him.
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* SoullessShell: What Ra's Ra thinks Jason is before the Pit, however at least once he started crying so there was some emotion in him.him.
* TamperingWithFoodAndDrink: Jason knew he couldn't take on Egon in a straight fight, so he kills him by poisoning his energy drink beforehand.
* TokenBlackFriend: Talia has a token black minion who is loyal to her, who only exists as her SatelliteCharacter for her to have someone to talk to and deliver exposition regarding her plans for Jason.
* TamperingWithFoodAndDrink: Jason knew he couldn't take on Egon in a straight fight, so he kills him by poisoning his energy drink beforehand.
* TokenBlackFriend: Talia has a token black minion who is loyal to her, who only exists as her SatelliteCharacter for her to have someone to talk to and deliver exposition regarding her plans for Jason.
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* GunsAkimbo: Jason has strayed quite far from Franchise/{{Batman}}'s no gun's policy.
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* GunsAkimbo: Jason has strayed quite far from Franchise/{{Batman}}'s no gun's policy.guns policy, as well as his [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]].
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This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself as the ComicBook/RedHood to his adopted father and former mentor.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his near catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason never seems to acknowledge this.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: The first real showing of emotion Jason has, while still in his near catatonic state, was when Talia showed him a picture of ComicBook/{{Batman}} alongside a new ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}}, telling him he'd been quickly replaced by his father. The truth of the situation was much more complicated but Jason never seems to acknowledge doesn't know this.
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->''My [[ComicBook/RasAlGhul father]] was '''right'''. I've unleashed a curse upon this world.''
-->-- '''Talia Al-Ghul'''
This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second Robin, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself to his adopted father and former mentor.
It starts with Ra's al Ghul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
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!!''Red Hood: The Lost Days'' provides examples of:
* CameBackWrong: Before being tossed in the Pit Jason was mostly non-responsive and catatonic. After the Pit he's mostly running on hate, anger and a desire for revenge.
* CarBomb: Just about the first thing Jason does after regaining his mind is go to Gotham and plan Bruce's death with one. Given his knowledge of the Batmobile and Bruce's way of operating his plan actually would have worked if he'd gone through with it.
* DamagedSoul: What Ra's believes Jason to be a very violent version of after his dip in the pit and the immediate swim Talia has him take to escape.
* EvilMentor: Talia specifically searches these out to teach Jason how to use a gun, maim and kill in a fight. Jason requested Talia be one though she's really using the training time to stall as she has no desire to see Jason or Bruce die.
* GunsAkimbo: Jason has strayed quite far from Franchise/{{Batman}}'s no gun's policy.
* InTheHood: Prior to acquiring his helmet.
* MentorOccupationalHazard: Jason ends up killing about half of the murderous mentors Talia finds for him himself, and his whole journey started out with his desire to beat his first one to the death.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Among other things Jason pretends not to know German which allows him to eavesdrop and lip read to discover some of his mentors' wrongdoings.
* ScheherezadeGambit: Talia starts off pulling one on Bruce's behalf, seeking out mentors for Jason all over the world as a stalling tactic since she loves Bruce and doesn't actually want Jason to kill him. By the end of the comic she's also seeking revenge on Bruce and she convinces Jason to punish him for the both of them without killing him.
* SlaveLiberation: His German mentor Egon was selling child slaves. Jason put an end to it.
* SoullessShell: What Ra's thinks Jason is before the Pit, however at least once he started crying so there was some emotion in him.
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->''My [[ComicBook/RasAlGhul father]] was '''right'''. I've unleashed a curse upon this world.''
-->-- '''Talia Al-Ghul'''
This six-issue miniseries by Creator/JuddWinick covers the story of Jason Peter Todd, the second Robin, from the time Jason dug himself out of his own grave till when Talia left him with the helmet he would use when he revealed himself to his adopted father and former mentor.
It starts with Ra's al Ghul requesting that the manner in which Jason cheated death be found and all those who had knowledge of the catatonic John Doe before the League of Assassins be eliminated. Ra's eventually comes to the conclusion that though Jason came out of his coma and will fight off attackers he is not but an empty shell and that the League is done researching this dead end. Talia disagrees and goes against her father by knocking Jason into a Lazarus Pit but the boy who comes out is quite changed from the boy who was Bruce's son and partner.
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!!''Red Hood: The Lost Days'' provides examples of:
* CameBackWrong: Before being tossed in the Pit Jason was mostly non-responsive and catatonic. After the Pit he's mostly running on hate, anger and a desire for revenge.
* CarBomb: Just about the first thing Jason does after regaining his mind is go to Gotham and plan Bruce's death with one. Given his knowledge of the Batmobile and Bruce's way of operating his plan actually would have worked if he'd gone through with it.
* DamagedSoul: What Ra's believes Jason to be a very violent version of after his dip in the pit and the immediate swim Talia has him take to escape.
* EvilMentor: Talia specifically searches these out to teach Jason how to use a gun, maim and kill in a fight. Jason requested Talia be one though she's really using the training time to stall as she has no desire to see Jason or Bruce die.
* GunsAkimbo: Jason has strayed quite far from Franchise/{{Batman}}'s no gun's policy.
* InTheHood: Prior to acquiring his helmet.
* MentorOccupationalHazard: Jason ends up killing about half of the murderous mentors Talia finds for him himself, and his whole journey started out with his desire to beat his first one to the death.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Among other things Jason pretends not to know German which allows him to eavesdrop and lip read to discover some of his mentors' wrongdoings.
* ScheherezadeGambit: Talia starts off pulling one on Bruce's behalf, seeking out mentors for Jason all over the world as a stalling tactic since she loves Bruce and doesn't actually want Jason to kill him. By the end of the comic she's also seeking revenge on Bruce and she convinces Jason to punish him for the both of them without killing him.
* SlaveLiberation: His German mentor Egon was selling child slaves. Jason put an end to it.
* SoullessShell: What Ra's thinks Jason is before the Pit, however at least once he started crying so there was some emotion in him.
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