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* AgeLift: The ''Ultimate'' version of Miles is 13 when he replaced a 16 year old Peter. The Earth-616 version is an adult when Fisk first became the Kingpin, making him older than Peter.
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* AgeLift: The ''Ultimate'' version of Miles is 13 when he replaced a 16 year old Peter. The Earth-616 version is an adult when Fisk first became the Kingpin, making him older than Peter. This is an inversion of how this tended to work with the Ultimate Universe -- more often than not, the ''Ultimate'' characters were the younger ones.
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''Spider-Men II'' is a 2017 comic book by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis and Sara Pichelli, a sequel to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen''. That story was a crossover between Peter Parker, the Spider-Man of the Franchise/MarvelUniverse ('''THE''' Spider-Man), and ComicBook/MilesMorales, the Spider-Man of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. When this story was written, however, the Ultimate universe had been destroyed in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' and Miles was transferred to the Marvel universe, with the two of them taking the Spider-Man name.
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''Spider-Men II'' is a 2017 comic book by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis and Sara Pichelli, a sequel to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen''. That story was a crossover between Peter Parker, the Spider-Man of the Franchise/MarvelUniverse ('''THE''' Spider-Man), Franchise/MarvelUniverse, and ComicBook/MilesMorales, the Spider-Man of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. When this story was written, however, the Ultimate universe had been destroyed in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' and Miles was transferred to the Marvel universe, with the two of them taking sharing the Spider-Man name.
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"Spider-Men II" is a 2017 comic book by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis and Sara Pichelli, a sequel to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen''. That story was a crossover between Peter Parker, the Spider-Man of the Franchise/MarvelUniverse ('''THE''' Spider-Man), and ComicBook/MilesMorales, the Spider-Man of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. When this story was written, however, the Ultimate universe had been destroyed in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' and Miles was transferred to the Marvel universe, with the two of them taking the Spider-Man name.
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''Spider-Men II'' is a 2017 comic book by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis and Sara Pichelli, a sequel to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen''. That story was a crossover between Peter Parker, the Spider-Man of the Franchise/MarvelUniverse ('''THE''' Spider-Man), and ComicBook/MilesMorales, the Spider-Man of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. When this story was written, however, the Ultimate universe had been destroyed in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' and Miles was transferred to the Marvel universe, with the two of them taking the Spider-Man name.
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* WhyWontYouDie: Green Goblin boasts that he can't be killed. Spider-Man already knows, and does not want to be reminded of it.
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* WhyWontYouDie: Green Goblin boasts that he can't be killed. Spider-Man already knows, and does not want to be reminded of it.it.
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* NonAnswer: Miles saved Barbara using his powers. She asked if he's a mutant, an inhuman, something else, all of the above... and he replied that needs time to figure out how to answer.
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* NonAnswer: Miles saved Barbara using his powers. She asked if he's a mutant, an inhuman, something else, all of the above... and he replied that needs time to figure out how to answer.
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* ArtifactTitle: ''Spider-Men'' #3 narrates the background of the adult Miles Morales. And, other than the cover pin-up, there is no Spider-Man in all the issue.
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* ArtifactTitle: ''Spider-Men'' #3 narrates the background of the adult Miles Morales. And, other than the cover pin-up, there is no Spider-Man in all the issue.
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: In trying to solve the mystery of Miles Morales-616, Peter Parker reaches out to ComicBook/JessicaJones at Alias Investigations. She quickly mentions she did an exhaustive search, while the art shows a few panels of what she's been up to: a team-up with Comicbook/SpiderWoman, a ComicBook/{{Dazzler}} concert, a battle with the Red Hulk, wrestling the Blob, interviewing Moon Girl, and running from what appear to be motorcycling ninjas.
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: In trying to solve the mystery of Miles Morales-616, Peter Parker reaches out to ComicBook/JessicaJones at Alias Investigations. She quickly mentions she did an exhaustive search, while the art shows a few panels of what she's been up to: a team-up with Comicbook/SpiderWoman, ComicBook/SpiderWoman, a ComicBook/{{Dazzler}} concert, a battle with the Red Hulk, wrestling the Blob, interviewing Moon Girl, and running from what appear to be motorcycling ninjas.
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->'''Peter Parker:''' WHY DO YOU HAVE MEGA VENOM BLAST AND I DON'T?
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->'''Miles Morales:''' Man, you have some nerve!
->'''Peter Parker:''' Me? ''I'' have some nerve? ''You'' have some nerve for saying that ''I'' have some nerve!
->'''Miles Morales:''' You said this was my fault? This?! Well, yeah man, then ''you'' got some nerve!
->'''Peter Parker:''' Me? ''I'' have some nerve? ''You'' have some nerve for saying that ''I'' have some nerve!
->'''Miles Morales:''' You said this was my fault? This?! Well, yeah man, then ''you'' got some nerve!
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'''Miles Morales:''' You said this was my fault? This?! Well, yeah man, then ''you'' got some nerve!
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* SuperpowersForADay: "Small hands" took a dose of MGH to kill Wilson Fisk. This drug gives random super powers for a day to those who take them. However, it does not give the RequiredSecondaryPowers: some time ago someone took it, got WreathedInFlames and died as a result.
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* SuperpowersForADay: SuperPowersForADay: "Small hands" took a dose of MGH to kill Wilson Fisk. This drug gives random super powers for a day to those who take them. However, it does not give the RequiredSecondaryPowers: some time ago someone took it, got WreathedInFlames and died as a result.
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* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion with S.H.I.E.L.D. hellicarriers nearby.
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* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion with S.H.I.E.L.D. hellicarriers helicarriers nearby.
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* AccidentalPublicConfession: A non-verbal case. Miles unmasked himself, thinking that he was alone with Peter, but they were photographed from a distance. He does not know about this other Miles Morales, but when he saw those photos... the other Miles Morales knew about ''him''.
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* AccidentalPublicConfession: A non-verbal case. Miles unmasked himself, thinking that he was alone with Peter, but they were photographed from a distance. He does not know about this other Miles Morales, but when he saw those photos... the other Miles Morales knew about ''him''.
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* AndTheAdventureContinues: Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Woman go away, heading for new adventures
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* AndTheAdventureContinues: Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Woman go away, heading for new adventuresadventures.
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* BroadStrokes: Captain America died and Thor lost his hammer in Cataclysm, SHIELD had been disbanded, and Riri had never been in the Ultimate universe, but who cares? The Ultimate universe is back!
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* BroadStrokes: Captain America died and Thor lost his hammer in Cataclysm, SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. had been disbanded, and Riri had never been in the Ultimate universe, but who cares? The Ultimate universe is back!
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe...and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life, there is an Ironheart, Peter and MJ are still together, Kong joined the Army and is now coming back home, Aunt May has a new boyfriend and they are still close to their friends. The last shot is Jessica shooting a knowing glance to the reader before racing off to join Peter.
* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion with SHIELD hellicarriers nearby.
* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion with SHIELD hellicarriers nearby.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe... and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life, there is an Ironheart, Peter and MJ are still together, Kong joined the Army and is now coming back home, Aunt May has a new boyfriend and they are still close to their friends. The last shot is Jessica shooting a knowing glance to the reader before racing off to join Peter.
* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion withSHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. hellicarriers nearby. nearby.
* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion with
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Wilson Fisk has a real and genuine friendship with the adult Miles Morales. He never betrays him or uses him as a tool of some mater plan, and even goes to great lengths for him (such as crossing the whole country to attend Barbara's funeral). They are friends.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Wilson Fisk has a real and genuine friendship with the adult Miles Morales. He never betrays him or uses him as a tool of some mater master plan, and even goes to great lengths for him (such as crossing the whole country to attend Barbara's funeral). They are friends.
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The story, however, [[LateArrivalSpoiler is largely known]] for the twist seen in the ending: The Ultimate Universe is back, ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan is back in the game and leads ComicBook/TheUltimates.
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* HowWeGotHere: The story opens up with Peter and Miles webbed together, arguing as an unknown person -- implied to be Earth-616 Miles Morales -- escapes in a jet. Miles frees them but fails to catch the plane in time, causing Peter to [[WhamLine take back]] his PassingTheTorch from the ''ComicBook/SpiderMan2016'' series [[IHaveNoSon and say he should have never let Miles become Spider-Man]]. The story then jumps back to Peter and Miles investigating the sudden reactivation of Mysterio's portal to Earth-1610.
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* HowWeGotHere: The story opens up with Peter and Miles webbed together, arguing as an unknown person -- implied to be Earth-616 Miles Morales -- escapes in a jet. Miles frees them but fails to catch the plane in time, causing Peter to [[WhamLine take back]] his PassingTheTorch from the ''ComicBook/SpiderMan2016'' series [[IHaveNoSon and say he should have never let Miles become Spider-Man]].Spider-Man. The story then jumps back to Peter and Miles investigating the sudden reactivation of Mysterio's portal to Earth-1610.
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Those were molecular recreations of the Ultimates, not the real deal. And there was no Riri Williams, Ironheart or otherwise, in the Ultimate comics before this.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe...and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life ([[ContinuitySnarl though Giant-Man and Hulk were last seen traveling the multiverse]]), Ultimate Riri has become life, there is an Ironheart, Peter and MJ are still together, Kong joined the Army and is now coming back home, Aunt May has a new boyfriend and they are still close to their friends. The last shot is Jessica shooting a knowing glance to the reader before racing off to join Peter.
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* SocialMediaBeforeReason: A giant piece f a robot has fallen in the schoolyard. Some pages later, Miles is leaving to investigate, the police are making crowd control... and a pair of students take a selfie in front of it.
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* SocialMediaBeforeReason: A giant piece f of a robot has fallen in the schoolyard. Some pages later, Miles is leaving to investigate, the police are making crowd control... and a pair of students take a selfie in front of it.
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* EvilIsSexy: Ultimate Barbara is not bothered by the adult Miles' scar. She finds it sexy.
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* ArmedWithCanon: Bendis outright ignored the costume change of Spider-Woman that took place in ''ComicBook/AllNewUltimates'' (that he did not write), and returned her to her classic suit for her cameo.
* ContinuityNod: Peter mentions that Reed Richards once blew him off so hard that he cried inside his mask. He's talking about the time he tried to join the Fantastic Four, way back in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #1.
* EiffelTowerEffect: The adult Miles Morales has made it to the other dimension. The first time we see it, we recognize it's the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe because, besides the Daily Bugle, there's the Baxter Building with the top part destroyed (something that happened in ''Ultimate Doomsday''), and the Triskelion with SHIELD hellicarriers nearby.
* EvilIsSexy: Ultimate Barbara is not bothered by the adult Miles' scar. She finds it sexy.
* ForYourOwnGood: Peter is talking with Miles, and suddenly he webs him in the face. That's because Taskmaster has entered the building and released a gas attack, but webs can filter it.
* ForYourOwnGood: Peter is talking with Miles, and suddenly he webs him in the face. That's because Taskmaster has entered the building and released a gas attack, but webs can filter it.
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* VillainousFriendship: Wilson Fisk and the 616 Miles Morales have been close ever since Miles saved Fisk's life in prison. They later ran a restaurant together and Fisk arranged for Miles' retirement from the criminal life.
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* VillainousFriendship: Wilson Fisk and the 616 Miles Morales have been close ever since Miles saved Fisk's life in prison. They later ran a restaurant together and Fisk arranged for Miles' retirement from the criminal life.life.
* WhyWontYouDie: Green Goblin boasts that he can't be killed. Spider-Man already knows, and does not want to be reminded of it.
* WhyWontYouDie: Green Goblin boasts that he can't be killed. Spider-Man already knows, and does not want to be reminded of it.
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* DecoyProtagonist: On paper, this is a team-up of both Spider-Men. Actually, it's the story of the adult Miles Morales, with both Spider-Men thrown there. They have little actual weight in the plot. They ever even find out where the portal leads to, nor there is an eye-to-eye meeting of both Miles.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Peter is jealous that Miles does not just have a better costume, but also an invisibility power... and worse, now he learns that he ''also'' has a mega venom blast!
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* DueToTheDead: Wilson Fisk crossed the whole country to attend the funeral of Barbara.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Wilson Fisk has a real and genuine friendship with the adult Miles Morales. He never betrays him or uses him as a tool of some mater plan, and even goes to great lengths for him (such as crossing the whole country to attend Barbara's funeral). They are friends.
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* ItMakesSenseInContext: Miles is nuts about the idea of there being another Miles Morales, and Peter pointed that he also was, the first time he was cloned. And then he realizes that the words "first time I was cloned" ''do'' sound so bizarre...
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* TheLostLenore: The adult Miles Morales met Barbara by the end of issue #3. Issue #4 starts in her funeral, and his angst is the purpose that drives him since then, including in the present.
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* NonAnswer: Miles saved Barbara using his powers. She asked if he's a mutant, an inhuman, something else, all of the above... and he replied that needs time to figure out how to answer.
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* OhNoNotAgain: Peter is talking about their duty of being responsible with themselves and each other, and that reminds him of something his uncle used to say. Miles protests that the line is his answer for everything.
* PetTheDog: It's a bit rare to see the Kingpin having a friend, and not betray him, use him, or pretend friendship in order to gain something. The adult Miles Morales is truly a friend, and he actually cares about him.
* PetTheDog: It's a bit rare to see the Kingpin having a friend, and not betray him, use him, or pretend friendship in order to gain something. The adult Miles Morales is truly a friend, and he actually cares about him.
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* ConvenientlyTimedAttackFromBehind: "Small hands" has super speed, thanks to the MGH drug, and is about to kill Wilson Fisk... and then he's stabbed from behind by the adult Miles Morales. Not enough to kill him just yet, but Fisk took advantage of the distraction and finished him.
* EveryScarHasAStory: The adult Miles has a blind date with Barbara, who is surprised by his huge scar in the face. Wilson Fisk steps in to "salute" him and mentions that he got that scar while saving his life.
* HumbleGoal: Wilson Fisk and the adult Miles Morales have deposed Don Rigoletto and replaced him at the top of the mafia. Fisk wants to go on being the Kingpin of crime, but not Miles: he wants to simply take his earnings, take Barbara and have a simple life out of crime from then on. He fears that once you get in that lifestyle you can never leave it, but fortunately he has Wilson Fisk to help him do that.
* IOweYouMyLife: The adult Miles Morales saved Wilson Fisk's in prison, from a gangster that had taken a drug that gave him super speed. Despite his usual tendencies, he was sincere, and they have been best friends since then.
* IOweYouMyLife: The adult Miles Morales saved Wilson Fisk's in prison, from a gangster that had taken a drug that gave him super speed. Despite his usual tendencies, he was sincere, and they have been best friends since then.
* PowerOfTrust: When they became cellmates, the adult Miles Morales proved his trust to Fisk. "Small hands" had given him a grand to kill Fisk in his sleep, but Miles told him this, and gave him the money. Fisk appreciated the gesture, but let him keep the money anyway.
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* ShipperOnDeck: Ganke called Barbara Rodriguez and forced Miles to overcome his doubts and talk to her.
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** Ganke called Barbara Rodriguez and forced Miles to overcome his doubts and talk toher.her.
** Similarily, Wilson Fisk helped the adult Miles with his own Barbara in their first date, when she was surprised by his huge scar.
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** Similarily, Wilson Fisk helped the adult Miles with his own Barbara in their first date, when she was surprised by his huge scar.
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* SuperpowersForADay: "Small hands" took a dose of MGH to kill Wilson Fisk. This drug gives random super powers for a day to those who take them. However, it does not give the RequiredSecondaryPowers: some time ago someone took it, got WreathedInFlames and died as a result.
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* ConvenientlyCellmates: Many years ago, the adult Miles Morales was in prison, covering up his cousin. Kingpin, enforcer of the Rigoletto family, was jailed and placed in his cell. He had a message for him from the don: that he is grateful, and will help him out.
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* OffOnATechnicality: The adult Miles Morales had at least three years of prison, but don Rigoleto was grateful with him. He found a technicality, and he was released in a pair of weeks, as soon as the paperwork was completed.
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* ArtifactTitle: ''Spider-Men'' #3 narrates the background of the adult Miles Morales. And, other than the cover pin-up, there is no Spider-Man in all the issue.
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* BullyingADragon: Many years ago, Wilson Fisk, enforcer of the Rigoletto family, was jailed. Some other prisoner threatened him that Rigoletto is not there to protect him... and Fisk chews his nose out of his face.
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* AccidentalPublicConfession: A non-verbal case. Miles unmasked himself, thinking that he was alone with Peter, but they were photographed from a distance. He does not know about this other Miles Morales, but when he saw those photos... the other Miles Morales knew about ''him''.
* BladeReflection: The cover of issue #2 shows both Spider-Men reflected on the Taskmaster's sword.
* TheCameo: The Taskmaster talked in the phone with one "Miles Morales". What is going on? Needing some answers, Peter Parker hires a private investigator... ComicBook/JessicaJones!
* CrazyPrepared: Taskmaster has his suit rigged for people like the Spider-Men. And if that fails, even his getaway car is prepared to explode.
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->'''Peter Parker: Parker:''' WHY DO YOU HAVE MEGA VENOM BLAST AND I DON'T?
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* TookALevelInBadass: As Spider-Man put it, Taskmaster is a master-fighter person, not a power-glowing person.
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* AsYouKnow: When Peter and Miles arrive at the site of the portal to the Ultimate universe, Peter made a recap of the portal as seen in the first story.
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* CListFodder: Spider-Man is fighting against a guy in an armadillo suit. He refuses to lower himself to talk to him, and if it turns out he actually calls himself "armadillo" he will walk away from the fight.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe...and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life ([[ContinuitySnarl though Giant-Man and Hulk were last seentravelling traveling the multiverse]]), Ultimate Riri has become Ironheart, Peter and MJ are still together, Kong joined the Army and is now coming back home, Aunt May has a new boyfriend and they are still close to their friends. The last shot is Jessica shooting a knowing glance to the reader before racing off to join Peter.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe...and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life ([[ContinuitySnarl though Giant-Man and Hulk were last seen
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: In trying to solve the mystery of Miles Morales-616, Peter Parker reaches out to Jessica Jones at Alias Investigations. She quickly mentions she did an exhaustive search, while the art shows a few panels of what she's been up to: a team up with Comicbook/SpiderWoman, a ComicBook/{{Dazzler}} concert, a battle with the Red Hulk, wrestling the Blob, interviewing Moon Girl, and running from what appear to be motorcycling ninjas.
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: In trying to solve the mystery of Miles Morales-616, Peter Parker reaches out to Jessica Jones ComicBook/JessicaJones at Alias Investigations. She quickly mentions she did an exhaustive search, while the art shows a few panels of what she's been up to: a team up team-up with Comicbook/SpiderWoman, a ComicBook/{{Dazzler}} concert, a battle with the Red Hulk, wrestling the Blob, interviewing Moon Girl, and running from what appear to be motorcycling ninjas.
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* HowWeGotHere: The story opens up with Peter and Miles webbed together, arguing as an unknown person -- implied to be Earth-616 Miles Morales -- escapes in a jet. Miles frees them but fails to catch the plane in time, causing Peter to [[WhamLine take back]] his PassingTheTorch from the original series [[IHaveNoSon and say he should have never let Miles become Spider-Man]]. The story then jumps back to Peter and Miles investigating the sudden reactivation of Mysterio's portal to Earth-1610.
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* HowWeGotHere: The story opens up with Peter and Miles webbed together, arguing as an unknown person -- implied to be Earth-616 Miles Morales -- escapes in a jet. Miles frees them but fails to catch the plane in time, causing Peter to [[WhamLine take back]] his PassingTheTorch from the original ''ComicBook/SpiderMan2016'' series [[IHaveNoSon and say he should have never let Miles become Spider-Man]]. The story then jumps back to Peter and Miles investigating the sudden reactivation of Mysterio's portal to Earth-1610.Earth-1610.
* ItsAllMyFault: The plane has escaped, and Miles could not stop it or board it. Peter thinks that it is ''his'' fault, for allowing Miles to be Spider-Man.
* JokeAndReceive: Peter and Miles are trapped, and Peter, who blames Miles for it all, sarcastically asks if he doesn't have some secret Spider superpower that would help them to get away. And actually, he does...
->'''Peter Parker: WHY DO YOU HAVE MEGA VENOM BLAST AND I DON'T?
* ItsAllMyFault: The plane has escaped, and Miles could not stop it or board it. Peter thinks that it is ''his'' fault, for allowing Miles to be Spider-Man.
* JokeAndReceive: Peter and Miles are trapped, and Peter, who blames Miles for it all, sarcastically asks if he doesn't have some secret Spider superpower that would help them to get away. And actually, he does...
->'''Peter Parker: WHY DO YOU HAVE MEGA VENOM BLAST AND I DON'T?
* NoYou: The comic starts with Peter and Miles having such a discussion
->'''Miles Morales: Man, you have some nerve!
->'''Peter Parker:''' Me? ''I'' have some nerve? ''You'' have some nerve for saying that ''I'' have some nerve!
->'''Miles Morales:''' You said this was my fault? This?! Well, yeah man, then ''you'' got some nerve!
->'''Miles Morales: Man, you have some nerve!
->'''Peter Parker:''' Me? ''I'' have some nerve? ''You'' have some nerve for saying that ''I'' have some nerve!
->'''Miles Morales:''' You said this was my fault? This?! Well, yeah man, then ''you'' got some nerve!
* ShipperOnDeck: Ganke called Barbara Rodriguez and forced Miles to overcome his doubts and talk to her.
* SocialMediaBeforeReason: A giant piece f a robot has fallen in the schoolyard. Some pages later, Miles is leaving to investigate, the police are making crowd control... and a pair of students take a selfie in front of it.
* SocialMediaBeforeReason: A giant piece f a robot has fallen in the schoolyard. Some pages later, Miles is leaving to investigate, the police are making crowd control... and a pair of students take a selfie in front of it.
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* SuddenDownerEnding: Inverted. 616!Miles winds up in the next universe and meets the alternate version of his wife at a wine bar, and the proceed to hit it off... but in the background, a group of people run away in fear, before the window behind them explodes... which, as it turns out, is because the 1610!Green Goblin crashed through the window as he was fighting Spider-Man and the Ultimates.
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* SuddenDownerEnding: Inverted. 616!Miles winds up in the next universe and meets the alternate version of his wife at a wine bar, and the proceed then proceeds to hit it off... but in the background, a group of people run runs away in fear, before the window behind them explodes... which, as it turns out, is because the 1610!Green Goblin crashed through the window as he was fighting Spider-Man and the Ultimates.Ultimates.
* ThisIsGonnaSuck: When he saw the portal up close, Miles delivered the "I have a bad feeling about this" line of Star Wars fame. He even clarified that it was not Spider-Sense.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A giant piece of a robot falls on the school's yard. Initially, only Miles and Ganke are interested in it.
* ThisIsGonnaSuck: When he saw the portal up close, Miles delivered the "I have a bad feeling about this" line of Star Wars fame. He even clarified that it was not Spider-Sense.
* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: A giant piece of a robot falls on the school's yard. Initially, only Miles and Ganke are interested in it.
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"Spider-Men II" is a 2017 comic book by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis and Sara Pichelli, a sequel to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen''. That story was a crossover between Peter Parker, the Spider-Man of the Franchise/MarvelUniverse ('''THE''' Spider-Man), and ComicBook/MilesMorales, the Spider-Man of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. When this story was written, however, the Ultimate universe had been destroyed in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' and Miles was transferred to the Marvel universe, with the two of them taking the Spider-Man name.
The main premise of the comic is to answer the SequelHook of the first work: introduce us to the Miles Morales of the Marvel Universe. He is an adult, and has been the best friend of ComicBook/TheKingpin for years.
The story, however, [[LateArrivalSpoiler is largely known]] for the twist seen in the ending: The Ultimate Universe is back, ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan is back in the game and leads ComicBook/TheUltimates.
!Tropes
* AdaptationalVillainy: While he left to settle down, Miles's 616 counterpart was a member of the Rigoletto gang and friends with the Kingpin.
* AgeLift: The ''Ultimate'' version of Miles is 13 when he replaced a 16 year old Peter. The Earth-616 version is an adult when Fisk first became the Kingpin, making him older than Peter.
* AlternateSelf: Miles Morales' Earth-616 counterpart makes his debut appearance.
* AndTheAdventureContinues: Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Woman go away, heading for new adventures
* ArtShift: The art style shifts to Mark Bagley's once 616!Miles enters the Ultimate Universe.
* BigBad: Taskmaster, or an alternate version of him, has activated and is using Mysterio's dimensional portal, leading Peter to wonder where it leads to now that Earth-1610 is destroyed. Peter should double-think that assumption.
* BroadStrokes: Captain America died and Thor lost his hammer in Cataclysm, SHIELD had been disbanded, and Riri had never been in the Ultimate universe, but who cares? The Ultimate universe is back!
* CallBack: The series has several to the original ''Spider-Men'' story, though it's DarkerAndEdgier.
* CanonImmigrant: As mentioned before, this marks the debut of 616!Miles.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe...and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life ([[ContinuitySnarl though Giant-Man and Hulk were last seen travelling the multiverse]]), Ultimate Riri has become Ironheart, Peter and MJ are still together, Kong joined the Army and is now coming back home, Aunt May has a new boyfriend and they are still close to their friends. The last shot is Jessica shooting a knowing glance to the reader before racing off to join Peter.
* GoodScarsEvilScars: The other Miles has some seriously nasty ones, which he gained defending a young Wilson Fisk while they were in prison.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: In trying to solve the mystery of Miles Morales-616, Peter Parker reaches out to Jessica Jones at Alias Investigations. She quickly mentions she did an exhaustive search, while the art shows a few panels of what she's been up to: a team up with Comicbook/SpiderWoman, a ComicBook/{{Dazzler}} concert, a battle with the Red Hulk, wrestling the Blob, interviewing Moon Girl, and running from what appear to be motorcycling ninjas.
* HistoryRepeats: Peter admits to Miles (while trying to patch things up with him over his outburst) that Reed Richards had once blown off Peter not unlike how Peter (unwittingly) blew off Miles, and Peter was so upset about that he cried in his mask.
* HowWeGotHere: The story opens up with Peter and Miles webbed together, arguing as an unknown person -- implied to be Earth-616 Miles Morales -- escapes in a jet. Miles frees them but fails to catch the plane in time, causing Peter to [[WhamLine take back]] his PassingTheTorch from the original series [[IHaveNoSon and say he should have never let Miles become Spider-Man]]. The story then jumps back to Peter and Miles investigating the sudden reactivation of Mysterio's portal to Earth-1610.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Issue #5 reveals that Peter [[IHaveNoSon said what he said to Miles]] in the heat of the moment. His ''actual'' opinion was that Miles shouldn't have to shoulder the kind of stress ''he'' deals with (while also admitting he can't help but feel weird about Miles being Spider-Man).
* TheReveal: We finally learn just what Peter saw back at the end of ''Spider-Men'' when he looked up Miles Morales... Nothing. Not a bean. As far as Earth-616 was concerned, Miles Morales doesn't exist. Which later turns out to be because Wilson Fisk helped erase all knowledge of him so he could live a quiet life.
* ScrewThisImOutOfHere: 616!Miles wanted to quit being a criminal. Wilson Fisk helped him get out of the life and settle down in the suburbs.
* StartOfDarkness: 616!Miles helped Wilson Fisk become the Kingpin.
* SuddenDownerEnding: Inverted. 616!Miles winds up in the next universe and meets the alternate version of his wife at a wine bar, and the proceed to hit it off... but in the background, a group of people run away in fear, before the window behind them explodes... which, as it turns out, is because the 1610!Green Goblin crashed through the window as he was fighting Spider-Man and the Ultimates.
* VillainousFriendship: Wilson Fisk and the 616 Miles Morales have been close ever since Miles saved Fisk's life in prison. They later ran a restaurant together and Fisk arranged for Miles' retirement from the criminal life.
The main premise of the comic is to answer the SequelHook of the first work: introduce us to the Miles Morales of the Marvel Universe. He is an adult, and has been the best friend of ComicBook/TheKingpin for years.
The story, however, [[LateArrivalSpoiler is largely known]] for the twist seen in the ending: The Ultimate Universe is back, ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan is back in the game and leads ComicBook/TheUltimates.
!Tropes
* AdaptationalVillainy: While he left to settle down, Miles's 616 counterpart was a member of the Rigoletto gang and friends with the Kingpin.
* AgeLift: The ''Ultimate'' version of Miles is 13 when he replaced a 16 year old Peter. The Earth-616 version is an adult when Fisk first became the Kingpin, making him older than Peter.
* AlternateSelf: Miles Morales' Earth-616 counterpart makes his debut appearance.
* AndTheAdventureContinues: Ultimate Spider-Man and Spider-Woman go away, heading for new adventures
* ArtShift: The art style shifts to Mark Bagley's once 616!Miles enters the Ultimate Universe.
* BigBad: Taskmaster, or an alternate version of him, has activated and is using Mysterio's dimensional portal, leading Peter to wonder where it leads to now that Earth-1610 is destroyed. Peter should double-think that assumption.
* BroadStrokes: Captain America died and Thor lost his hammer in Cataclysm, SHIELD had been disbanded, and Riri had never been in the Ultimate universe, but who cares? The Ultimate universe is back!
* CallBack: The series has several to the original ''Spider-Men'' story, though it's DarkerAndEdgier.
* CanonImmigrant: As mentioned before, this marks the debut of 616!Miles.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: The Miles of Earth-616 meets an alternate version of his wife (and they immediately get along swimmingly) when he crosses over to the next universe...and it's a revived UltimateUniverse! The characters who died like Captain America and Thor are back to life ([[ContinuitySnarl though Giant-Man and Hulk were last seen travelling the multiverse]]), Ultimate Riri has become Ironheart, Peter and MJ are still together, Kong joined the Army and is now coming back home, Aunt May has a new boyfriend and they are still close to their friends. The last shot is Jessica shooting a knowing glance to the reader before racing off to join Peter.
* GoodScarsEvilScars: The other Miles has some seriously nasty ones, which he gained defending a young Wilson Fisk while they were in prison.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: In trying to solve the mystery of Miles Morales-616, Peter Parker reaches out to Jessica Jones at Alias Investigations. She quickly mentions she did an exhaustive search, while the art shows a few panels of what she's been up to: a team up with Comicbook/SpiderWoman, a ComicBook/{{Dazzler}} concert, a battle with the Red Hulk, wrestling the Blob, interviewing Moon Girl, and running from what appear to be motorcycling ninjas.
* HistoryRepeats: Peter admits to Miles (while trying to patch things up with him over his outburst) that Reed Richards had once blown off Peter not unlike how Peter (unwittingly) blew off Miles, and Peter was so upset about that he cried in his mask.
* HowWeGotHere: The story opens up with Peter and Miles webbed together, arguing as an unknown person -- implied to be Earth-616 Miles Morales -- escapes in a jet. Miles frees them but fails to catch the plane in time, causing Peter to [[WhamLine take back]] his PassingTheTorch from the original series [[IHaveNoSon and say he should have never let Miles become Spider-Man]]. The story then jumps back to Peter and Miles investigating the sudden reactivation of Mysterio's portal to Earth-1610.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Issue #5 reveals that Peter [[IHaveNoSon said what he said to Miles]] in the heat of the moment. His ''actual'' opinion was that Miles shouldn't have to shoulder the kind of stress ''he'' deals with (while also admitting he can't help but feel weird about Miles being Spider-Man).
* TheReveal: We finally learn just what Peter saw back at the end of ''Spider-Men'' when he looked up Miles Morales... Nothing. Not a bean. As far as Earth-616 was concerned, Miles Morales doesn't exist. Which later turns out to be because Wilson Fisk helped erase all knowledge of him so he could live a quiet life.
* ScrewThisImOutOfHere: 616!Miles wanted to quit being a criminal. Wilson Fisk helped him get out of the life and settle down in the suburbs.
* StartOfDarkness: 616!Miles helped Wilson Fisk become the Kingpin.
* SuddenDownerEnding: Inverted. 616!Miles winds up in the next universe and meets the alternate version of his wife at a wine bar, and the proceed to hit it off... but in the background, a group of people run away in fear, before the window behind them explodes... which, as it turns out, is because the 1610!Green Goblin crashed through the window as he was fighting Spider-Man and the Ultimates.
* VillainousFriendship: Wilson Fisk and the 616 Miles Morales have been close ever since Miles saved Fisk's life in prison. They later ran a restaurant together and Fisk arranged for Miles' retirement from the criminal life.
