History ComicBook / HYDRA

14th Jun '17 11:39:03 AM Linda58
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* HydraProblem: Actually a bigger issue than in the mainstream version where Baron Strucker is usually in charge. Hydra has had numerous leaders and when one dies, they just get another one.

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* HydraProblem: Actually a bigger issue than in the mainstream version where Baron Strucker is usually in charge. Hydra has had numerous leaders and when one dies, they just get another one. [[spoiler:Coulson takes down HYDRA by basically cutting off as many heads as possible and, when he gathers enough intel, he calls in the Avengers to deal the final blow. Hydra is now scattered and Kelbo says that "heads ain't growin' back". Then Ward decides to revive HYDRA in his own image and recruits Baron Von Strucker's son as his apprentice; two more heads have grown. All known heads are again cut by the end of the third season, including Hive, the original head. In Season 4 of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', HYDRA does not appear at all (in the real world anyway), and may in fact be gone.]]
4th May '17 8:45:42 AM SorPepita
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* EliteMooks: Deathlok [[spoiler: (until being freed from Hydra's control in "[[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS1E22BeginningOfTheEnd Beginning of the End]]"), Agent Ward]], Crossbones, the Winter Soldier a.k.a.[[spoiler: (Bucky Barnes, through being brainwashed)]].
* EnemyCivilWar: [[spoiler: There are 2 major ideologies within HYDRA who aren't very fond of each other: The scientific branch and the {{Cult}}, worhsipping and aiming to bring back Hive to Earth.]]

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* EliteMooks: Deathlok [[spoiler: (until being freed from Hydra's control in "[[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS1E22BeginningOfTheEnd Beginning of the End]]"), Agent Ward]], Crossbones, the Winter Soldier a.[[spoiler:(a.k.a.[[spoiler: (Bucky Bucky Barnes, through being brainwashed)]].
* EnemyCivilWar: [[spoiler: There are 2 major ideologies within HYDRA who aren't very fond of each other: The the scientific branch and the {{Cult}}, worhsipping and aiming to bring back Hive to Earth.]]



** This {{Justified}} in the comic book prequel to ''The First Avenger.'' The Red Skull in a JustBetweenYouAndMe moment, tells Doctor Erskine he thinks the Aryan supremacy thing is "racist junk science" which he knows because he's an actual genius. It's useful for gaining him political power, though, and he's willing to protect Erskine's Jewish wife (or NOT protect her) if he works for him. Erskine actually thinks this makes him ''worse'' than Hitler.

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** This {{Justified}} in the comic book prequel to ''The First Avenger.'' The Red Skull Skull, in a JustBetweenYouAndMe moment, tells Doctor Erskine he thinks the Aryan supremacy thing is "racist junk science" which he knows because he's an actual genius. It's useful for gaining him political power, though, and he's willing to protect Erskine's Jewish wife (or NOT protect her) if he works for him. Erskine actually thinks this makes him ''worse'' than Hitler.



* ForScience: Armin Zola's motivation [[spoiler: even after his "retirement" in America.]]

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* ForScience: Armin Zola's motivation [[spoiler: even [[spoiler:even after his "retirement" in America.]]



* TheManBehindTheMan: To Centipede.

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* TheManBehindTheMan: To Centipede.Centipede Group.



* StrangeSalute: They stick both arms, with clenched fists, in the air and scream "Hail HYDRA!" It looks a lot like the Nazi salute. [[spoiler:The salute is mocked in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', where Garrett says it makes the person doing it look like "West Texas cheerleader at a Pep Rally"]].

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* StrangeSalute: They stick both arms, with clenched fists, in the air and scream "Hail HYDRA!" It looks a lot like the Nazi salute. [[spoiler:The salute is mocked in ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', where Garrett says it makes the person doing it look like a "West Texas cheerleader at a Pep Rally"]].
4th May '17 8:40:21 AM SorPepita
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ComicBook/MadameHydra has her own subpage.



* ArchEnemy: Baron Strucker is this to Nick Fury. Madame Hydra is this to Spider-Woman

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* ArchEnemy: Baron Strucker is this to Nick Fury. Madame Hydra is this to Spider-WomanSpider-Woman.



* BadassArmy: Despite all the superheroes being thrown at them they still managed to have survived as an organization for over sixty years.

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* BadassArmy: Despite all the superheroes being thrown at them they still have managed to have survived survive as an organization for over sixty years.



* BigBad: Baron Strucker was the founder and leader of Hydra but now Madame Hydra is the leader currently after Strucker's death.

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* BigBad: Baron Strucker was the founder and leader of Hydra but now currently Madame Hydra is the leader currently after Strucker's death.



* CharacterizationMarchesOn: or goals and origin stories do at any rate. In their first appearance, they're a generically SPECTRE-like organization run by "a nondescript businessman." They're soon reinvented as TheRemnant, an organization of former Axis war criminals who survived World War Two and are trying to restore a fascistic regime. ''Then,'' they're reinvented as an AncientConspiracy from the dawn of mankind, responsible for a number of terrible things throughout history, of which fascism is only one of the latest.

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* CharacterizationMarchesOn: or Or goals and origin stories do do, at any rate. In their first appearance, they're a generically SPECTRE-like organization run by "a nondescript businessman." They're soon reinvented as TheRemnant, an organization of former Axis war criminals who survived World War Two and are trying to restore a fascistic regime. ''Then,'' they're reinvented as an AncientConspiracy from the dawn of mankind, responsible for a number of terrible things throughout history, of which fascism is only one of the latest.



* TheDragon: Gorgon

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* TheDragon: GorgonGorgon.



* FunWithAcronyms: They appeared as [[spoiler:'''H'''ope '''Y'''ards '''D'''evelopment and '''R'''elocation '''A'''ssociation]] in [[ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel 2015 relaunch]] of ''[[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Ms. Marvel]]''.

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* FunWithAcronyms: They appeared as [[spoiler:'''H'''ope '''Y'''ards '''D'''evelopment and '''R'''elocation '''A'''ssociation]] in [[ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel the 2015 relaunch]] of ''[[ComicBook/MsMarvel2014 Ms. Marvel]]''.



* NaziNobleman: Baron Strucker, Baron Zemo

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* NaziNobleman: Baron Strucker, Baron ZemoZemo.



* SmugSnake: Andreas Strucker has always been considered to be whipping boy of Hydra. He eventually stopped being smug when he became the Swordsman. Then he became the ButtMonkey.

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* SmugSnake: Andreas Strucker has always been considered to be the whipping boy of Hydra. He eventually stopped being smug when he became the Swordsman. Then he became the ButtMonkey.



* TheStarscream: Gorgon

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* TheStarscream: GorgonGorgon.



* TerroristsWithoutACause
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: Hydra calls one of its superweapons The Overkill Horn. Its function? Remotely activating every single nuclear weapon on the surface of the planet the whole world over.

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* TerroristsWithoutACause
TerroristsWithoutACause: Aside from [[TakeOverTheWorld Taking Over The World]], that is.
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: Hydra calls one of its superweapons The Overkill Horn. Its function? Remotely activating every single nuclear weapon on the surface of the planet the whole world over.planet.
4th May '17 7:58:23 AM SorPepita
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** However ow there is a power play for leadership between two factions of Hydra. One led by the Red Skull and one led by Baron Zemo.

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** However ow However, now there is a power play for leadership between two factions of Hydra. One Hydra: one led by the Red Skull and one led by Baron Zemo.



* WesternTerrorists

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* WesternTerroristsWesternTerrorists: Although it has Asian roots.
15th Apr '17 2:24:29 PM WarriorsGate
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* TheBaroness: Viper, the Madame Hydra.

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* TheBaroness: Viper, the Madame The UrExample. The G.I. Joe baddie was inspired by a high-ranking Hydra commander, Viper/Madame Hydra.
9th Apr '17 9:59:00 AM Phoenixion
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[[caption-width-right:303: No, they're not doing the YMCA.]]

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[[caption-width-right:303: No, they're not doing the YMCA.]]
[[caption-width-right:303:Hail Hydra]]
14th Mar '17 4:05:01 AM Cornholio4
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** However ow there is a power play for leadership between two factions of Hydra. One led by the Red Skull and one led by Baron Zemo.
18th Oct '16 10:34:31 PM Ma35tro
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* OverlordJr: Fenris/Andreas. He has actually begun to use the Baron Strucker since his father's death.

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* OverlordJr: Fenris/Andreas. Fenris (Andreas). He has actually begun to use the name Baron Strucker since his father's death.
18th Oct '16 10:32:49 PM Ma35tro
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* AbusiveParents: Baron Strucker's reaction to discovering Andreas Strucker had been killed by Comicbook/NormanOsborn when asking for a favor? "Okay, that's '''two''' favors I owe you."

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* AbusiveParents: Baron Strucker's reaction to discovering Andreas Strucker had been killed by Comicbook/NormanOsborn when asking for a favor? "Okay, that's '''two''' favors I owe you."" (Andy got better though, see Cloning Blues).



* CloningBlues: The Red Skull and Baron Strucker's twin children have both cheated death this way.



* HalfIdenticalTwins: Baron Strucker's mutant twin children, Andreas and Andrea (aka the Fenris twins).



* LegionOfDoom: Not really but a surprising number of Marvel villains have either worked for or with HYDRA over the years: Baron Strucker, Baron Zemo, the Kingpin, Richard Fisk, Madame Hydra, the Serpent Society, Crossbones, the Red Skull, Deadpool, Gorgon, a brainwashed Wolverine, the Hand, AIM, Richard Nixon (!!) through the Secret Empire, Don Fortunato, The Thunderbolts (without the majority of members knowing), ComicBook/NormanOsborn, and so on. ComicBook/SpiderWoman also started out as a HYDRA agent, until she was set straight by Nick Fury. And now we got [[spoiler:''Captain friggin' America'']] on their team.

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* LegionOfDoom: Not really but a surprising number of Marvel villains have either worked for or with HYDRA over the years: Baron Strucker, Baron Zemo, the Kingpin, Richard Fisk, Madame Hydra, the Serpent Society, Crossbones, the Red Skull, Deadpool, Gorgon, Fenris, a brainwashed Wolverine, the Hand, AIM, Richard Nixon (!!) through the Secret Empire, Don Fortunato, The Thunderbolts (without the majority of members knowing), ComicBook/NormanOsborn, and so on. ComicBook/SpiderWoman also started out as a HYDRA agent, until she was set straight by Nick Fury. And now we got [[spoiler:''Captain friggin' America'']] on their team.


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* OverlordJr: Fenris/Andreas. He has actually begun to use the Baron Strucker since his father's death.
9th Aug '16 9:35:10 AM dsneybuf
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In the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, HYDRA was originally a top-secret Nazi weapons research unit led by the ComicBook/RedSkull, but quickly split away from the Third Reich altogether. However, it was [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS3E8ManyHeadsOneTale later]] {{retcon}}ned into having being an AncientConspiracy.

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In the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, HYDRA was originally a top-secret Nazi weapons research unit led by the ComicBook/RedSkull, but quickly split away from the Third Reich altogether. However, it was [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS3E8ManyHeadsOneTale later]] {{retcon}}ned into having being an AncientConspiracy.
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