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** The bonus prologues that appear in the solo titles reveal additional crises: In Issue 2.12 of ''The Tenth Doctor'', Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather, the First Doctor, has been captured by Cybermen. He tells her to run and save herself. ''The Fourth Doctor'' Issue 4 has two: the Eighth Doctor and Josie Day are captured by Cybermen, and they cannot access the TARDIS due to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E12ClosingTime Cybermats]] surrounding it, as well as the Fourth Doctor ordering K9 to blast invading Cybermen all while he claims that there is something wrong ([[SkewedPriorities he is all out of jelly babies]]). Cue K9 about to shoot the Doctorinstead , [[FaceHeelTurn revealing that he has been Cyber-converted.]] From Issue 2.11 of ''The Eleventh Doctor'', the Sixth Doctor and Mel run after the Valeyard through the Matrix, only to find that it has been compromised, all while the Second Doctor gets Cyber-converted [[[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase while giving a monologue]]. The next issue of ''The Tenth Doctor'' details the Fifth Doctor and Peri landing on Skaro, only to find out that it is different, where a nearby Cyberman identifies the Doctor and orders to kill him. and the Seventh Doctor [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E3SilverNemesis is ready to blow an entire Cyber-Fleet]], reminiscing that Ace would have loved this only to be spotted by a Cyberman, which responds with "[[spoiler:[{SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay Professor?]]]]", revealing it to be a [[spoiler:fully Cyber-converted Ace. And finally, in ''The Twelfth Doctor'' 2.8, a knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Thirteenth Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help. Meanwhile, the War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.

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** The bonus prologues that appear in the solo titles reveal additional crises: In Issue 2.12 of ''The Tenth Doctor'', Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather, the First Doctor, has been captured by Cybermen. He tells her to run and save herself. ''The Fourth Doctor'' Issue 4 has two: the Eighth Doctor and Josie Day are captured by Cybermen, and they cannot access the TARDIS due to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E12ClosingTime Cybermats]] surrounding it, as well as the Fourth Doctor ordering K9 to blast invading Cybermen all while he claims that there is something wrong ([[SkewedPriorities he is all out of jelly babies]]). Cue K9 about to shoot the Doctorinstead , [[FaceHeelTurn revealing that he has been Cyber-converted.]] From Issue 2.11 of ''The Eleventh Doctor'', the Sixth Doctor and Mel run after the Valeyard through the Matrix, only to find that it has been compromised, all while the Second Doctor gets Cyber-converted [[[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase while giving a monologue]]. The next issue of ''The Tenth Doctor'' details the Fifth Doctor and Peri landing on Skaro, only to find out that it is different, where a nearby Cyberman identifies the Doctor and orders to kill him. and the Seventh Doctor [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E3SilverNemesis is ready to blow an entire Cyber-Fleet]], reminiscing that Ace would have loved this this, only to be spotted by a Cyberman, which responds with "[[spoiler:[{SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay "[[spoiler:[[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay Professor?]]]]", revealing it to be a [[spoiler:fully Cyber-converted Ace. And finally, in ''The Twelfth Doctor'' 2.8, a knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Thirteenth Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help. Meanwhile, the War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.



* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One and the prologues that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline -- the Second Doctor being cyber-converted, Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten, etc. The biggest paradox is that the '''Twelfth''' Doctor is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to encounter him, which can't happen if any of his previous lives are cyber-converted or destroyed! Yet there's no RealityBreakingParadox in play as of Part Two, nor an explanation as to how that's possible. And since the Twelfth Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon in the first place, it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.

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* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One and the prologues that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline -- the [[spoiler:the Second Doctor being cyber-converted, cyber-converted]], Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten, etc. The biggest paradox is that the '''Twelfth''' Doctor is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to encounter him, which can't happen if any of his previous lives are cyber-converted or destroyed! Yet there's no RealityBreakingParadox in play as of Part Two, nor an explanation as to how that's possible. And since the Twelfth Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon in the first place, it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.



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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well. (In addition, prologues published in other ''Comic/DoctorWhoTitan'' ongoing series details how it affects the First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors.)

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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well. (In addition, prologues published in other ''Comic/DoctorWhoTitan'' ongoing series details how it affects all Doctors from the First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors.Classic series.)



* FaceRevealingTurn: For the Second Doctor prologue. As he is giving his famous monologue from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase The Moonbase]]", he reveals that he has been Cyber-converted, which is reminiscent of his appearance [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver twelve incantations later.]] Even worse, his famous line has been changed due to the Cybermens' meddling in the timeline. [[Main/NightmareFuel It manages to be genuinely terrifying.]]
-->''"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be fought."'' '''''(original line)'''''
-->''"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be...'' '''''like us!'''''''"'' '''''(changed line)'''''

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* FaceRevealingTurn: For the Second Doctor prologue. As [[spoiler:As he is giving his famous monologue from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase The Moonbase]]", he reveals that he has been Cyber-converted, which is reminiscent of his appearance [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver twelve incantations later.]] Even worse, his famous line has been changed due to the Cybermens' meddling in the timeline. [[Main/NightmareFuel It manages to be genuinely terrifying.]]
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are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be fought."'' "]]'' '''''(original line)'''''
-->''"There -->''[[spoiler:"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be...'' '''''like us!'''''''"'' us!''''']]''"'' '''''(changed line)'''''



** The bonus prologues that appear in the solo titles reveal additional crises: The Second Doctor gets cyber-converted. In Issue 2.12 of ''The Tenth Doctor'', Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather, the First Doctor, has been captured by Cybermen. He tells her to run and save herself. In ''The Twelfth Doctor'' 2.8, a knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Thirteenth Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help. Meanwhile, the War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.

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** The bonus prologues that appear in the solo titles reveal additional crises: The Second Doctor gets cyber-converted. In Issue 2.12 of ''The Tenth Doctor'', Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather, the First Doctor, has been captured by Cybermen. He tells her to run and save herself. In ''The Fourth Doctor'' Issue 4 has two: the Eighth Doctor and Josie Day are captured by Cybermen, and they cannot access the TARDIS due to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E12ClosingTime Cybermats]] surrounding it, as well as the Fourth Doctor ordering K9 to blast invading Cybermen all while he claims that there is something wrong ([[SkewedPriorities he is all out of jelly babies]]). Cue K9 about to shoot the Doctorinstead , [[FaceHeelTurn revealing that he has been Cyber-converted.]] From Issue 2.11 of ''The Eleventh Doctor'', the Sixth Doctor and Mel run after the Valeyard through the Matrix, only to find that it has been compromised, all while the Second Doctor gets Cyber-converted [[[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase while giving a monologue]]. The next issue of ''The Tenth Doctor'' details the Fifth Doctor and Peri landing on Skaro, only to find out that it is different, where a nearby Cyberman identifies the Doctor and orders to kill him. and the Seventh Doctor [[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E3SilverNemesis is ready to blow an entire Cyber-Fleet]], reminiscing that Ace would have loved this only to be spotted by a Cyberman, which responds with "[[spoiler:[{SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay Professor?]]]]", revealing it to be a [[spoiler:fully Cyber-converted Ace. And finally, in ''The Twelfth Doctor'' 2.8, a knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Thirteenth Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help. Meanwhile, the War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.



** In the climax of Part One the Twelfth Doctor narrowly escapes a Cyberman attack on Karn and returns to Gallifrey via a portal door to summon the Time Lords' help -- but then Ohila shuts the door behind him and the reader realizes she has already been cyberconverted...

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** In the climax of Part One the Twelfth Doctor narrowly escapes a Cyberman attack on Karn and returns to Gallifrey via a portal door to summon the Time Lords' help -- but then Ohila shuts the door behind him and the reader realizes she has already been cyberconverted...Cyber-converted...



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors, the Thirteenth Master, and Susan Foreman. Part Two adds [[spoiler:the General]].

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* LittleNo: The Seventh Doctor's reaction when he realises that a Cyberman that has spotted him is revealed to be '''[[spoiler:Ace, his companion]]'''.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War all Classic Doctors, the Thirteenth Master, and Susan Foreman.Foreman, Polly Wright, K9, Peri, Mel, Ace ([[spoiler:albeit as a fully converted Cyberman]]) and Josie Day. Part Two adds [[spoiler:the General]].



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Are the Fourth and Eighth Doctors being affected by any of this? They're the only Doctors not brought up in the main storyline or the prologue.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Are WhamLine: In the Fourth and Eighth Doctors being affected by any of this? They're the only Doctors not brought up in the main storyline or the prologue.Seventh Doctor prologue.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Are the Fourth and Eighth Doctors being affected by any of this? They're the only Doctors not brought up in the main storyline or the prologue.
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* WritingForTheTrade: With FourLinesAllWaiting and LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters compounded by a great deal of exposition as to what Rassilon and the Cybermen are doing, how they're doing it, and the effect it has on the established timelines, this five-part miniseries has little actual ''plot and CharacterDevelopment'' from issue to issue. Plus, the Prologues featuring other characters only appear in the solo titles of the four Doctors featured and are thus easily missed by those not regularly reading them. The biweekly release schedule should have compensated for the slow pace, but then ScheduleSlip kicked in, resulting in '''month-plus''' waits between the first three issues.

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* WritingForTheTrade: With FourLinesAllWaiting and LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters compounded by a great deal of exposition as to what Rassilon and the Cybermen are doing, how they're doing it, and the effect it has on the established timelines, this five-part miniseries has little actual ''plot and CharacterDevelopment'' from issue to issue. Plus, the Prologues featuring other characters only appear in the solo titles of the four Doctors featured and are thus easily missed by those not regularly reading them. The biweekly release schedule should have compensated for the slow pace, but then ScheduleSlip kicked in, resulting in '''month-plus''' waits of '''a month or longer''' between the first three issues.
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* WritingForTheTrade: With FourLinesAllWaiting and LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters compounded by a great deal of exposition as to what Rassilon and the Cybermen are doing, how they're doing it, and the effect it has on the established timelines, this five-part miniseries has little actual ''plot and CharacterDevelopment'' from issue to issue. Plus, the Prologues featuring other characters only appear in the solo titles of the four Doctors featured and are thus easily missed by those not regularly reading them. The biweekly release schedule should have compensated for the slow pace, but then ScheduleSlip kicked in, resulting in '''month-plus''' waits between the first three issues.
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The Twelfth Doctor, tragically, had a key role in the events that led to this unfolding catastrophe: He was the man who bloodlessly overthrew Rassilon when he returned to Gallifrey "the long way 'round", after a horrifying ordeal at his hands that also claimed the life of his beloved companion Clara. Now he is in a very different universe where no one can be trusted...save for, perhaps, three of his previous selves and their respective companions/associates: Rose and Jackie Tyler, Captain Jack Harkness, Gabby Gonzalez, Cindy Wu, and Alice. As the story begins, each group is in a different part of time and space, dealing with its bizarre alterations, unaware of what has caused them. How can things be set to rights?

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The Twelfth Doctor, tragically, had a key role in the events that led to this unfolding catastrophe: He was the man who bloodlessly overthrew Rassilon when he returned to Gallifrey "the long way 'round", after a horrifying ordeal at his hands that also claimed the life of his beloved companion Clara. Now he is in a very different universe where no one can be trusted...save for, perhaps, three of universe...as are his previous selves and their respective companions/associates: in particular, Nine with Rose and Jackie Tyler, Tyler and Captain Jack Harkness, Ten with Gabby Gonzalez, Gonzalez and Cindy Wu, and Alice. As the story begins, each group is in a different part of time and space, dealing Eleven with its bizarre alterations, unaware of what has caused them. Alice. How can things be set to rights?rights?



* DrivingQuestion: How will the Doctor undo the Cybermen's conquest of the universe now that Rassilon is their leader and they have Time Lord technology at their disposal? He can't undo his choice to exile Rassilon due to the RealityBreakingParadox it would create -- but it's a ForegoneConclusion that there ''must'' be a way to fix things. Bonus question: How can his past selves be any help when none of them know that Gallifrey and the Time Lords ''still exist'' and at least one (the Second) has already been cyber-converted?

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* DrivingQuestion: How will the Twelfth Doctor undo the Cybermen's conquest of the universe now that Rassilon is their leader and they have Time Lord technology at their disposal? He can't undo his choice to exile Rassilon due to the RealityBreakingParadox it would create create, nor can he enlist the help of his previous selves (for one thing, Nine, Ten, and Eleven have no idea Gallifrey and the Time Lords still exist) -- but it's a ForegoneConclusion that there ''must'' be a way to fix things. Bonus question: How can his past selves be any help when none of them know that Gallifrey and the Time Lords ''still exist'' and at least one (the Second) has already been cyber-converted?things.



* FourLinesAllWaiting: The story initially rotates between four different locations, with no Doctor aware of what's happening to his other selves.

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* FourLinesAllWaiting: The story initially rotates between four different locations, with no Doctor aware of what's happening to his other selves.



** As in ''Four Doctors'', the previous Titan multi-Doctor miniseries, the villains are trying to MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight and the Doctors and their companions must find a way to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong in response. In addition, said villains are teaming up with each other and combining their abilities and technology for their mutual benefit; in ''Four Doctors'' the situation was [[spoiler: an evil alternate universe Twelfth Doctor teaming up with the Voord and their Hive Mind]].

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** As in ''Four Doctors'', the previous Titan multi-Doctor miniseries, the villains are trying to MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight and the Doctors and their companions Doctor must find a way to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong in response. In addition, said villains are teaming up with each other and combining their abilities and technology for their mutual benefit; in ''Four Doctors'' the situation was [[spoiler: an evil alternate universe Twelfth Doctor teaming up with the Voord and their Hive Mind]].
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master. Part Two adds [[spoiler:the General]].

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors and Doctors, the Thirteenth Master.Master, and Susan Foreman. Part Two adds [[spoiler:the General]].

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* DrivingQuestion: How will the Doctor undo the Cybermen's conquest of the universe now that Rassilon is their leader and they have Time Lord technology at their disposal? He can't undo his choice to exile Rassilon due to the RealityBreakingParadox it would create -- but it's a ForegoneConclusion that there ''must'' be a way to fix things. Bonus question: How can his past selves be any help when none of them know that Gallifrey and the Time Lords ''still exist''?
* EasilyConqueredWorld: Gallifrey apparently fell to the Rassilon-led Cybermen without much of a fight, if any. Justified because 1) Rassilon ''was'' the previous, much-feared ruler, 2) the only person gutsy and respected enough to successfully overthrow him chose to run away shortly after his installation as the new Lord President, 3) the Cybermen are a mighty military force, and 4) less-than-noble Time Lords likely jumped at the chance to reclaim their former standing as a mighty, feared people after the Last Great Time War made them hated by most of the universe.

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* DrivingQuestion: How will the Doctor undo the Cybermen's conquest of the universe now that Rassilon is their leader and they have Time Lord technology at their disposal? He can't undo his choice to exile Rassilon due to the RealityBreakingParadox it would create -- but it's a ForegoneConclusion that there ''must'' be a way to fix things. Bonus question: How can his past selves be any help when none of them know that Gallifrey and the Time Lords ''still exist''?
exist'' and at least one (the Second) has already been cyber-converted?
* EasilyConqueredWorld: Gallifrey apparently fell to the Rassilon-led Cybermen without much of a fight, if any. Justified because 1) Rassilon ''was'' the previous, much-feared ruler, 2) the only person gutsy and respected enough to successfully overthrow him turned out to be TheMentallyDisturbed (though he got better) and chose to run away shortly after his installation as the new Lord President, 3) the Cybermen are a mighty military force, and 4) less-than-noble Time Lords likely jumped at the chance to reclaim their former standing as a mighty, feared people after the Last Great Time War made them hated by most of the universe.



* FaceRevealingTurn: For the Second Doctor prologue. As he is giving his famous line from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase The Moonbase]], he reveals that he has been Cyber-Converted, which is reminiscent of his appearance [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver twelve incantations later.]] Even worse, his famous line has been changed due to the Cybermens' meddling in the timeline. [[Main/NightmareFuel It manages to be genuinely terrifying.]]

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* FaceRevealingTurn: For the Second Doctor prologue. As he is giving his famous line monologue from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase The Moonbase]], Moonbase]]", he reveals that he has been Cyber-Converted, Cyber-converted, which is reminiscent of his appearance [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver twelve incantations later.]] Even worse, his famous line has been changed due to the Cybermens' meddling in the timeline. [[Main/NightmareFuel It manages to be genuinely terrifying.]]



** The bonus prologues that appears in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title reveals additional crises:
*** A knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help.
*** The War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.
** As well as the prologue from Issue 2.12 of the Tenth Doctor, where Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather (First Doctor) has been captured by Cybermen. The First Doctor then tells her to run and save herself.

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** The bonus prologues that appears appear in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title reveals titles reveal additional crises:
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crises: The Second Doctor gets cyber-converted. In Issue 2.12 of ''The Tenth Doctor'', Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather, the First Doctor, has been captured by Cybermen. He tells her to run and save herself. In ''The Twelfth Doctor'' 2.8, a knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Thirteenth Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help.
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help. Meanwhile, the War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.
** As well as the prologue from Issue 2.12 of the Tenth Doctor, where Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather (First Doctor) has been captured by Cybermen. The First Doctor then tells her to run and save herself.
Gallifrey.



* InMediasRes: Part One opens with the TARDIS crash-landing on Karn and the Twelfth Doctor asking a member of its Sisterhood to be taken to their leader, followed by looks at what's happening to his three other selves in other altered parts of space and time. The Prologue also takes place well after the Cybermen's plot is underway.
* ISurrenderSuckers: The Tenth Doctor makes his companions surrender alongside him so he can get to the Sontarans' command ship and figure out why the largest mall in the universe has suddenly become a ruin.

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* InMediasRes: Part One opens with the TARDIS crash-landing on Karn and the Twelfth Doctor asking a member of its Sisterhood to be taken to their leader, followed by looks at what's happening to his three other selves in other altered parts of space and time. The Prologue Prologues also takes take place well after the Cybermen's plot is underway.
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The Tenth Doctor makes his companions surrender alongside him so he can get to the Sontarans' command ship and figure out why the largest mall in the universe has suddenly become a ruin.ruin.
** It's possible that Rassilon went along with being exiled with this trope in mind, since he immediately heads off to team up with the Cybermen.



* RippleEffectProofMemory: None of the Doctors have memories of what happens to his previous selves in the Cybermen's new timeline -- so far.

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* RippleEffectProofMemory: None of the Doctors have memories of what happens to his previous selves in the Cybermen's new new, highly contradictory timeline -- so far.



* RoboticReveal: After Ohila traps the Doctor on Gallifrey, it's revealed that this is because she has already been cyberconverted, with the shadow of a Cyberman falling across her face and her irises now a metallic gray.
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: The DrivingQuestion is how the Doctor can pull this off when he can't undo his banishing Rassilon in the first place. Is there something he can do that won't cause a major paradox? And how, when his enemies have all of his abilities and more?
* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline (i.e. Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten). If '''any''' of the past Doctors are destroyed, a RealityBreakingParadox is guaranteed because Twelve is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to encounter him. The Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon in the first place. So it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.

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* RoboticReveal: After Ohila traps the Doctor on Gallifrey, it's revealed that this is because she has already been cyberconverted, with the shadow of a Cyberman falling across her face and her irises now a metallic gray.
gray. See also FaceRevealingTurn above.
* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: The DrivingQuestion is how the Twelfth Doctor can pull this off when he can't undo his banishing Rassilon in the first place. Is there something he can do that won't cause a major paradox? And how, when his enemies have all of his abilities and more?
* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One and the prologues that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline (i.e. -- the Second Doctor being cyber-converted, Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten). If '''any''' of Ten, etc. The biggest paradox is that the past Doctors are destroyed, a RealityBreakingParadox is guaranteed because Twelve '''Twelfth''' Doctor is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to encounter him. The him, which can't happen if any of his previous lives are cyber-converted or destroyed! Yet there's no RealityBreakingParadox in play as of Part Two, nor an explanation as to how that's possible. And since the Twelfth Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon in the first place. So place, it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.



* WorldWreckingWave: Multiple waves are spreading across all of time and space, and only the Doctors and their companions seem immune.

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* WorldWreckingWave: Multiple waves are spreading across all of time and space, and only which are most likely the Doctors and their companions seem immune.result of the many paradoxes the Cybermen are creating involving the Doctor's timeline.
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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well. (In addition, a Prologue published in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title revealed how it affects the Third and War Doctors.)

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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well. (In addition, a Prologue prologues published in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title revealed other ''Comic/DoctorWhoTitan'' ongoing series details how it affects the Third First, Second, Third, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors.)
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the First, Second, Third, Sixth and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master. Part Two adds [[spoiler:the General]].

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the First, Second, Third, Sixth Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master. Part Two adds [[spoiler:the General]].
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-->''"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must...'' '''''become like us!'''''''"'' '''''(changed line)'''''

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-->''"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must...must be...'' '''''become like '''''like us!'''''''"'' '''''(changed line)'''''

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* FaceRevealingTurn: For the Second Doctor prologue. As he is giving his famous line from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase The Moonbase]], he reveals that he has been Cyber-Converted, which is reminiscent of his appearance [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver twelve incantations later.]] Even worse, his famous line has been changed due to the Cybermens' meddling in the timeline. [[Main/NightmareFuel It manages to be genuinely terrifying.]]
-->''"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be fought."'' '''''(original line)'''''
-->''"There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must...'' '''''become like us!'''''''"'' '''''(changed line)'''''



** The bonus Prologue that appears in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title reveals additional crises:

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** The bonus Prologue prologues that appears in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title reveals additional crises:



** As well as the prologue from Issue 2.12 of the Tenth Doctor, where Susan Foreman heads home to Totter's Lane and sees that her grandfather (First Doctor) has been captured by Cybermen. The First Doctor then tells her to run and save herself.



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The Prologue adds the Third and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master. Part Two adds [[spoiler: the General]].

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The Prologue prologues from different ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' series adds the Third First, Second, Third, Sixth and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master. Part Two adds [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the General]].
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* EasilyConqueredWorld: Gallifrey apparently fell to the Rassilon-led Cybermen without much of a fight, if any. Justified because 1) Rassilon ''was'' the previous, much-feared ruler, 2) the only person gutsy and respected enough to successfully overthrow him chose to run away shortly after his installation as the new Lord President, 3) the Cybermen are a mighty military force, and 4) less-than-noble Time Lords likely jumped at the chance to reclaim their former standing as a mighty, feared people after the Last Great Time War made them hated by most of the universe.
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** In 2006 London, the Ninth Doctor, Captain Jack, and Rose are traveling by hovercar, rescuing Jackie Tyler from Cyberdinosaurs in the ruins of their council estate, and headed to a mysterious tower where the TARDIS has been taken.

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** In 2006 London, the Ninth Doctor, Captain Jack, and Rose are traveling by hovercar, rescuing Jackie Tyler from Cyberdinosaurs cyber-creatures in the ruins of their council estate, and headed to a mysterious tower where the TARDIS has been taken.
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* {{Flashback}}: There's a quick flashback to the early scenes of "Hell Bent" in Part Two (the Doctor telling Rassilon "Get off my planet", the General warning that he may have no place to go), followed by Rassilon explaining what he did as soon as he was exiled, which set up the current story's events.
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* DramaticIrony: In Part Two, Jackie accuses the Ninth Doctor of being the cause of the crisis in London, and he replies that it isn't his fault. Technically it ''is'' the Doctor's fault, but Nine doesn't know his own future.
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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Rassilon justifies his choice to become the new leader of the Cybermen by blaming the Doctor for giving him no other options when he exiled him -- after all, he had to survive ''somehow'' at the end of time -- and pointing out that it's also for the greater good of the Time Lords, as it will ensure they can rise again.
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* EnemyMine: The Sontarans force this on the Tenth Doctor by making them their new field marshal since he has more experience fighting the Cybermen, who have already destroyed the Rutan and most of the other Sontarans in the new timeline.


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* LaResistance: The {{Cliffhanger}} of Part Two reveals that there is one on Gallifrey led by [[spoiler: the General]].

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Somewhere at the end of time, the very last Cybermen have crossed paths with the disgraced, exiled co-founder of Time Lord society, Rassilon. Now their cyber-converted leader, Rassilon retakes Gallifrey and the Cybermen are now using time travel to rewrite the history of the universe, creating one in which they have conquered all other beings.

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Somewhere at the end of time, the very last Cybermen have crossed paths with a new leader: the disgraced, exiled co-founder of Time Lord society, Rassilon. Now their cyber-converted leader, cyber-converted, Rassilon retakes Gallifrey and the Cybermen are now using time travel to rewrite the history of the universe, creating one in which they have conquered all other beings.



* DomesticatedDinosaurs: The Cybermen are converting Earth's dinosaurs to serve as both mounts and living weapons; they appear in both the Ninth and Eleventh Doctor's locations.

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* DomesticatedDinosaurs: The Cybermen are converting Earth's dinosaurs to serve as both mounts and living weapons; they appear in both the Ninth and Eleventh Doctor's locations.weapons on prehistoric Earth.



* HopeSpot: In the climax of Part One the Twelfth Doctor narrowly escapes a Cyberman attack on Karn and returns to Gallifrey via a portal door to summon the Time Lords' help -- but then Ohila shuts the door behind him and the reader realizes she has already been cyberconverted...

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In the climax of Part One the Twelfth Doctor narrowly escapes a Cyberman attack on Karn and returns to Gallifrey via a portal door to summon the Time Lords' help -- but then Ohila shuts the door behind him and the reader realizes she has already been cyberconverted...cyberconverted...
** In Part Two the Ninth Doctor and his friends return to their TARDIS, but when he tries to use it to figure out what's going on, the console explodes...



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The Prologue adds the Third and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The Prologue adds the Third and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master. Part Two adds [[spoiler: the General]].



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: The Twelfth Doctor bloodlessly overthrew and exiled Rassilon and his High Council from Gallifrey in "Hell Bent" as punishment for both their betrayal, capture, and torture of him, which along the way inadvertently claimed Clara Oswald's life, and for their atrocities in the Last Great Time War. At the time, the Doctor had been DrivenToMadness by rage and anguish, and didn't care that there was virtually nowhere for them to go. Now, a catastrophic tragedy is ensuing that only the Doctor can fix.
* PacifismBackfire: The Doctor exiled Rassilon as punishment for his crimes when he could have just as easily imprisoned or even killed him, given that Rassilon wanted to do the latter to him. But because he was consumed by madness and a TragicDream (saving Clara) at the time, the Doctor DidntThinkThisThrough, Rassilon crossed paths with the Cybermen, and now everyone and everything in the universe faces conversion or deletion.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: The Twelfth Doctor bloodlessly overthrew and exiled Rassilon and his High Council from Gallifrey in "Hell Bent" as punishment for both their his betrayal, capture, and torture of him, which along the way inadvertently claimed Clara Oswald's life, and for their his atrocities in the Last Great Time War. At the time, the Doctor had been DrivenToMadness by rage and anguish, and didn't care that there was virtually nowhere for them him to go. Now, a catastrophic tragedy is ensuing that only the Doctor can fix.
* PacifismBackfire: The Doctor exiled Rassilon as punishment for his crimes when he could have just as easily imprisoned or even killed him, given that Rassilon wanted to do the latter to him. But because he was consumed by madness and a TragicDream (saving Clara) at the time, the Doctor DidntThinkThisThrough, Rassilon crossed paths teamed up with the Cybermen, and now everyone and everything in the universe faces conversion or deletion.



* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]]. They have turned him into one of them ala [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the Time Lord conquest of the universe. But will the Cybermen bow their knees to Time Lords forever?

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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]]. They have turned him into one of them ala [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the Time Lord conquest of the universe. But will the Cybermen bow their knees to Time Lords forever?forever? The Twelfth Doctor thinks not...

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* TheEmpire: Gallifrey has been rendered this by Rassilon and the Cybermen, with the rest of the universe in their sights.



* RisingEmpire: Gallifrey has been rendered this by Rassilon and the Cybermen, with the rest of the universe in their sights.



* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: The DrivingQuestion is how the Doctor can pull this off when he can't undo his banishing Rassilon in the first place. Is there something he can do that won't cause a major paradox? And how, when his enemies now have the exact same abilities he does?

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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: The DrivingQuestion is how the Doctor can pull this off when he can't undo his banishing Rassilon in the first place. Is there something he can do that won't cause a major paradox? And how, when his enemies now have the exact same all of his abilities he does?and more?
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* TheEmpire: Gallifrey has been rendered this by Rassilon and the Cybermen, with the rest of the universe in their sights.
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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]]. They have turned him into one of them ala [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the conquest of the universe.
* VillainWorld: Rassilon and the Cybermen are creating a Villain ''Universe''.

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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]]. They have turned him into one of them ala [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the Time Lord conquest of the universe.
universe. But will the Cybermen bow their knees to Time Lords forever?
* VillainWorld: Rassilon and the Cybermen are creating a Villain ''Universe''.
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* PacifismBackfire: The Doctor chose to exile Rassilon as punishment for his crimes when he could have just as easily imprisoned or even killed him, given that Rassilon wanted to do the latter to him. But because he was consumed by madness and a TragicDream (saving Clara) at the time, the Doctor DidntThinkThisThrough, Rassilon crossed paths with the Cybermen, and now everyone and everything in the universe faces conversion or deletion.

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* PacifismBackfire: The Doctor chose to exile exiled Rassilon as punishment for his crimes when he could have just as easily imprisoned or even killed him, given that Rassilon wanted to do the latter to him. But because he was consumed by madness and a TragicDream (saving Clara) at the time, the Doctor DidntThinkThisThrough, Rassilon crossed paths with the Cybermen, and now everyone and everything in the universe faces conversion or deletion.
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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]]. They have turned him into one of them ala [[DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the conquest of the universe.

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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]]. They have turned him into one of them ala [[DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the conquest of the universe.
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Somewhere at the end of time, the very last Cybermen have crossed paths with -- and captured -- the disgraced, exiled co-founder of Time Lord society, Rassilon. Having cyber-converted him, they are now using time travel to rewrite the history of the universe, creating one in which they have conquered all other beings.

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Somewhere at the end of time, the very last Cybermen have crossed paths with -- and captured -- the disgraced, exiled co-founder of Time Lord society, Rassilon. Having Now their cyber-converted him, they leader, Rassilon retakes Gallifrey and the Cybermen are now using time travel to rewrite the history of the universe, creating one in which they have conquered all other beings.



** The Twelfth Doctor also demands "Take me to your leader" in Issue 2.7 of his solo title, which was released the week before Part One of this story was -- and is also written by George Mann. In fact, since in ''that'' story he asks "Now, how does it go again? Ah, that's right...Take me to your leader", this story most likely takes place before that one!

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** The Twelfth Doctor also demands "Take me to your leader" in Issue 2.7 of his solo title, which was released the week before Part One of this story was -- and is also written by George Mann. In fact, since in ''that'' story he asks "Now, how does it go again? Ah, that's right...Take me to your leader", this story most likely probably takes place before that one!



* DrivingQuestion: How will the Doctor undo the Cybermen's conquest of the universe now that they have the abilities and technology of Time Lords? He can't undo his choice to exile Rassilon due to the RealityBreakingParadox it would create -- but it's a ForegoneConclusion that there ''must'' be a way to fix things. Bonus question: How can his past selves be any help when none of them know that Gallifrey and the Time Lords ''still exist''?

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* DrivingQuestion: How will the Doctor undo the Cybermen's conquest of the universe now that Rassilon is their leader and they have the abilities and Time Lord technology of Time Lords? at their disposal? He can't undo his choice to exile Rassilon due to the RealityBreakingParadox it would create -- but it's a ForegoneConclusion that there ''must'' be a way to fix things. Bonus question: How can his past selves be any help when none of them know that Gallifrey and the Time Lords ''still exist''?



** And on Karn at a point near the end of Time and Space, the Twelfth Doctor is trying to return to Gallifrey (which is not directly accessible by TARDIS due to a transduction barrier) to figure out why a number of {{World Wrecking Wave}}s are overtaking the universe...and in the Part One {{Cliffhanger}} he arrives to find it has fallen to the Cybermen, who captured and cyberconverted Rassilon. With his TARDIS back on Karn, where Ohila is already a cyber-slave as well, how can he escape and start fixing all of this?

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** And on Karn at a point near the end of Time and Space, the Twelfth Doctor is trying to return to Gallifrey (which is not directly accessible by TARDIS due to a transduction barrier) to figure out why a number of {{World Wrecking Wave}}s are overtaking the universe...and in the Part One {{Cliffhanger}} he arrives to find it has fallen to the Cybermen, who captured Cybermen and cyberconverted their new leader Rassilon. With his TARDIS back on Karn, where Ohila is already a cyber-slave as well, how can he escape and start fixing all of this?



* PacifismBackfire: The Doctor chose to exile Rassilon as punishment for his crimes when he could have just as easily imprisoned or even killed him, given that Rassilon wanted to do the latter to him. But because he was consumed by madness and a TragicDream (saving Clara) at the time, the Doctor DidntThinkThisThrough, Rassilon fell into the hands of the Cybermen, and now everyone and everything in the universe faces conversion or deletion.

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* PacifismBackfire: The Doctor chose to exile Rassilon as punishment for his crimes when he could have just as easily imprisoned or even killed him, given that Rassilon wanted to do the latter to him. But because he was consumed by madness and a TragicDream (saving Clara) at the time, the Doctor DidntThinkThisThrough, Rassilon fell into the hands of crossed paths with the Cybermen, and now everyone and everything in the universe faces conversion or deletion.



* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline (i.e. Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten). If '''any''' of the past Doctors are destroyed, a RealityBreakingParadox is guaranteed because Twelve is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to capture him. The Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon in the first place. So it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.

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* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline (i.e. Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten). If '''any''' of the past Doctors are destroyed, a RealityBreakingParadox is guaranteed because Twelve is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to capture encounter him. The Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon in the first place. So it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.



* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen have captured the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]], and turned him into one of them (ala Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever). It remains to be seen whether he accepted this fate willingly or not, but given the tyrant's previous behavior it's not out of the question.
* VillainWorld: The Cybermen are creating a Villain ''Universe''.

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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen have captured and the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, the tyrant who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]], and along]]. They have turned him into one of them (ala ala [[DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever). It remains Clever]]. He is now their gleeful leader, using them to be seen whether he accepted this fate willingly or not, but given retake Gallifrey and launch a new ploy for the tyrant's previous behavior it's not out conquest of the question.
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* VillainWorld: The Rassilon and the Cybermen are creating a Villain ''Universe''.

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** And on Karn at a point near the end of Time and Space, the Twelfth Doctor is trying to return to Gallifrey (which is not directly accessible by TARDIS due to a transduction barrier) to figure out why a number of {{World Wrecking Wave}}s are overtaking the universe...and in the Part One {{Cliffhanger}} he arrives to find it has fallen to the Cybermen, who captured and cyberconverted Rassilon. With his own TARDIS inaccessible, how can he escape and start fixing all of this?

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** And on Karn at a point near the end of Time and Space, the Twelfth Doctor is trying to return to Gallifrey (which is not directly accessible by TARDIS due to a transduction barrier) to figure out why a number of {{World Wrecking Wave}}s are overtaking the universe...and in the Part One {{Cliffhanger}} he arrives to find it has fallen to the Cybermen, who captured and cyberconverted Rassilon. With his own TARDIS inaccessible, back on Karn, where Ohila is already a cyber-slave as well, how can he escape and start fixing all of this?


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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Part One alone has four Doctors, five companions, Jackie Tyler, the Cybermen, Ohila and the Sisterhood of Karn, the Sontarans, the Silurians, and Rassilon and the Time Lords. The Prologue adds the Third and War Doctors and the Thirteenth Master.
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** The Twelfth Doctor also demands "Take me to your leader" in Issue 2.7 of his solo title, which was released the week before Part One of this story was -- and is also written by George Mann. Actually, given that in ''that'' story he asks "Now, how does it go again? Ah, that's right...Take me to your leader", it's possible this story takes place before that one!

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** The Twelfth Doctor also demands "Take me to your leader" in Issue 2.7 of his solo title, which was released the week before Part One of this story was -- and is also written by George Mann. Actually, given that In fact, since in ''that'' story he asks "Now, how does it go again? Ah, that's right...Take me to your leader", it's possible this story most likely takes place before that one!

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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well.

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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well.
well. (In addition, a Prologue published in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title revealed how it affects the Third and War Doctors.)



The Twelfth Doctor, tragically, had a key role in the events that led to this unfolding catastrophe: He was the man who bloodlessly overthrew Rassilon when he returned to Gallifrey "the long way 'round", after a horrifying ordeal at his hands that also claimed the life of his beloved companion Clara. Now he is in a very different universe where no one can be trusted...save for, perhaps, his three previous selves and their respective companions/associates: Rose and Jackie Tyler, Captain Jack Harkness, Gabby Gonzalez, Cindy Wu, and Alice. As the story begins, each group is in a different part of time and space, dealing with its bizarre alterations, unaware of what has caused them. How can things be set to rights?

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The Twelfth Doctor, tragically, had a key role in the events that led to this unfolding catastrophe: He was the man who bloodlessly overthrew Rassilon when he returned to Gallifrey "the long way 'round", after a horrifying ordeal at his hands that also claimed the life of his beloved companion Clara. Now he is in a very different universe where no one can be trusted...save for, perhaps, his three of his previous selves and their respective companions/associates: Rose and Jackie Tyler, Captain Jack Harkness, Gabby Gonzalez, Cindy Wu, and Alice. As the story begins, each group is in a different part of time and space, dealing with its bizarre alterations, unaware of what has caused them. How can things be set to rights?



** The bonus Prologue that appears in Issue 2.8 of the Twelfth Doctor's solo title reveals additional crises:
*** A knock-down fight between the Third Doctor and the Master is interrupted when the latter is helplessly transformed into a Cyberman and pleads for the Doctor's help.
*** The War Doctor uses the Moment not to end the Last Great Time War, but to defeat Cybermen -- possibly cyber-converted Time Lords -- who have tracked him down to the barn on Gallifrey.



* InMediasRes: Part One opens with the TARDIS crash-landing on Karn and the Twelfth Doctor asking a member of its Sisterhood to be taken to their leader, followed by looks at what's happening to his three other selves in other altered parts of space and time.

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* InMediasRes: Part One opens with the TARDIS crash-landing on Karn and the Twelfth Doctor asking a member of its Sisterhood to be taken to their leader, followed by looks at what's happening to his three other selves in other altered parts of space and time. The Prologue also takes place well after the Cybermen's plot is underway.



* RippleEffectProofMemory: The Doctor, at least, doesn't seem to have memories of what happens to his previous selves in the Cybermen's new timeline -- so far.

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* RippleEffectProofMemory: The Doctor, at least, doesn't seem to None of the Doctors have memories of what happens to his previous selves in the Cybermen's new timeline -- so far.



* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once. If any of the past Doctors are destroyed, a RealityBreakingParadox is virtually guaranteed. The Doctor can't stop Rassilon from being exiled from Gallifrey in the first place, because he was the one who exiled him. So it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.

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* TimeyWimeyBall: It's already clear in Part One that the Cybermen's alterations to the history of the universe are not taking effect all at once. once, causing a bunch of paradoxes in the Doctor's timeline (i.e. Rose and Jack learning about the Cybermen while traveling with ''Nine'', not Ten). If any '''any''' of the past Doctors are destroyed, a RealityBreakingParadox is virtually guaranteed. guaranteed because Twelve is the one who exiles Rassilon and allows the Cybermen to capture him. The Doctor can't stop himself from exiling Rassilon from being exiled from Gallifrey in the first place, because he was the one who exiled him.place. So it will take something ''very'' timey-wimey to correct all of this.
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** When the Tenth Doctor brought an end to Harriet Jones's career as Prime Minister in "The Christmas Invasion" over her ordering the destruction of the Sycorax, the power vacuum left behind set the stage for The Master to become P.M. in "The Sound of Drums", whereupon he was able to create a horrible new world. That was undone, but set the stage for the almost-as-bad government of ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth''. Turns out the Doctor didn't learn from those mistakes: Having decided to exile Rassilon from Gallifrey and take over as Lord President only to become a fugitive from justice once more over his TragicDream to save Clara, he left another power vacuum just waiting to be filled -- by a Cyberleader Rassilon, as it turns out. (That said, Twelve ''was'' DrivenToMadness at the time and his whole scheme boiled down to DidntThinkThisThrough.)

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** When the Tenth Doctor brought an end to Harriet Jones's career as Prime Minister in "The Christmas Invasion" over her ordering the destruction of the Sycorax, the power vacuum left behind set the stage for The Master to become P.M. in "The Sound of Drums", whereupon he was able to create a horrible new world. That was undone, but set the stage for the almost-as-bad government of ''Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth''. Turns out the Doctor didn't learn from those mistakes: Having decided to exile Rassilon from Gallifrey and take over as Lord President only to become a fugitive from justice once more over his TragicDream to save Clara, he left another power vacuum just waiting to be filled -- by a Cyberleader cyberconverted Rassilon, as it turns out. (That said, Twelve ''was'' DrivenToMadness at the time and his whole scheme boiled down to DidntThinkThisThrough.)



* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen have captured the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]], and turned him into a new Cyberleader. It remains to be seen whether he accepted this fate willingly or not, but given the tyrant's previous behavior it's not out of the question.

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* VillainTeamUp: The Cybermen have captured the disgraced Time Lord co-founder Rassilon, who most recently subjected the Doctor to billions of years of ColdBloodedTorture in a confession dial just to learn the truth behind a vague prophecy that may have been [[SelfFulfillingProphecy self-fulfilling all along]], and turned him into a new Cyberleader.one of them (ala Eleven temporarily being turned into Mr. Clever). It remains to be seen whether he accepted this fate willingly or not, but given the tyrant's previous behavior it's not out of the question.
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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story released bi-weekly starting July 6, 2016. It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". It is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well.

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The second ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoTitan'' crossover miniseries, written by George Mann and Cavan Scott, is a five-issue story released bi-weekly that launched July 6, 2016 (intended as a biweekly release, it suffered ScheduleSlip starting July 6, 2016.with Part Two). It's a 50th anniversary MilestoneCelebration for one of the franchise's most popular recurring villains, the Cybermen, who first appeared in the 1966 First Doctor serial "The Tenth Planet". It The story is set within the "Year Two" continuity of the Tenth, Eleventh, and Twelfth Doctor Titan Comics titles, and incorporates the new Ninth Doctor title as well.



The Twelfth Doctor, tragically, had a key role in the events that led to this unfolding catastrophe: He was the man who bloodlessly overthrew Rassilon when he returned to Gallifrey "the long way 'round", after a horrifying ordeal at his hands that also claimed the life of his beloved companion Clara. Now he is in a very different universe where no one can be trusted...save for, perhaps, his three previous selves and their respective companions. As the story begins, each group is in a different part of time and space, dealing with its alterations, unaware of what has caused them. How can things be set to rights?

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The Twelfth Doctor, tragically, had a key role in the events that led to this unfolding catastrophe: He was the man who bloodlessly overthrew Rassilon when he returned to Gallifrey "the long way 'round", after a horrifying ordeal at his hands that also claimed the life of his beloved companion Clara. Now he is in a very different universe where no one can be trusted...save for, perhaps, his three previous selves and their respective companions. companions/associates: Rose and Jackie Tyler, Captain Jack Harkness, Gabby Gonzalez, Cindy Wu, and Alice. As the story begins, each group is in a different part of time and space, dealing with its bizarre alterations, unaware of what has caused them. How can things be set to rights?

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