History ComicBook / AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder

6th Jul '17 6:55:31 AM NightShade96
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The original ''ComicBook/AllStarDCComics'' title. Ran from 2005 until 2008. When DC announced the book it was widely anticipated as Creator/FrankMiller's return to the site of two of his greatest books - ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this time with the tale of Robin's origin, and illustrated by Jim Lee.

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The original ''ComicBook/AllStarDCComics'' title. Ran from 2005 until 2008. When DC announced the book it was widely anticipated as Creator/FrankMiller's return to the site of two of his greatest books - -- ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this time with the tale of Robin's origin, and illustrated by Jim Lee.



Not to be confused Scott Snyder's 2016 series ''[[http://www.newsarama.com/28600-rebirth-q-a-scott-snyder-on-all-star-batman.html All-Star Batman]]'', which Snyder heavily emphasizes has nothing to do with this.

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Not to be confused Scott Snyder's with Creator/ScottSnyder's 2016 series ''[[http://www.newsarama.com/28600-rebirth-q-a-scott-snyder-on-all-star-batman.html All-Star Batman]]'', which Snyder heavily emphasizes has nothing to do with this.
3rd Jul '17 4:28:43 PM NightShade96
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* AdaptationalJerkass: In this series, Batman is depicted as enjoying violence and inflicting pain, in contrast to his usual depiction.
22nd Jun '17 8:39:11 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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** Barbara Gordon's existence. The story explicitly takes place a few years after the Joker's first appearance, which happened right at the end of ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne''. In taht story, the Gordons don't have any kids, with Jim even lamenting that it'd be wrong to bring a child into Gotham. Given Barbara's age, it's impossible that she was born after James. It's possible that she's Jim's niece in this version, but given that the series plays on the Silver Age quite a bit, it's more than likely she's his biological daughter and there's some snarl in effect.
11th Jun '17 9:35:22 AM Drope
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* AllThereInTheManual: The story makes more sense as a sequel to ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'' when you read issue #10 and some plot points, such as the Goddamn Batman's relationship with Green Lantern, become very interesting when compared to ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain''. Also confirmed by WordOfGod is that the series is in the same universe as ''The Dark Knight Returns''.

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* AllThereInTheManual: The story makes more sense as a sequel to ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'' when you read issue #10 and some plot points, such as the Goddamn Batman's relationship with Green Lantern, become very interesting when compared to ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain''. Also confirmed by WordOfGod is that the series is in the same universe as ''The Dark Knight Returns''.
11th Jun '17 9:32:59 AM Drope
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** Interestingly enough, Miller has also noted that he never ''intended'' for Batman to be seen as truly "heroic" in this arc (quite the opposite), until near the end, where Batman tones down (with Robin's help) to become the "moral" Batman we all know. (See CharacterDevelopment, below.)

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** Interestingly enough, Miller has also noted that he never ''intended'' for Batman to be seen as truly "heroic" in this arc (quite the opposite), until near the end, where the Goddamn Batman tones down (with Robin's help) to become the "moral" Batman we all know. (See CharacterDevelopment, below.)
4th Jun '17 6:22:48 PM Drope
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* ButtMonkey: Franchise/GreenLantern exists pretty much to be humiliated and insulted by Batman, then gets his neck injured by Robin so Batman gets to save his life.

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* ButtMonkey: Franchise/GreenLantern exists pretty much to be humiliated and insulted by the Goddamn Batman, then gets his neck injured by Robin so Batman gets to save his life.



* NeverMyFault: Several moments in the story have Batman repeatedly blame Dick Grayson, age 12, for coming into his life and becoming his sidekick, [[SelfServingMemory completely ignoring the fact]] that he's the one who abducted the boy against his will in the first place.

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* NeverMyFault: Several moments in the story have Goddamned Batman repeatedly blame Dick Grayson, age 12, for coming into his life and becoming his sidekick, [[SelfServingMemory completely ignoring the fact]] that he's the one who abducted the boy against his will in the first place.



** And in Creator/FrankMiller stories, Batman is always right. '''Always.'''

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** And in Creator/FrankMiller stories, the Goddamn Batman is always goddamn right. '''Always.'''



* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: Batman fantasizes about what he could do with Green Lantern's ring - force everyone to think ''his'' way. God help us.
* WrongGenreSavvy: Poor Superman and Green Lantern are oblivious to the fact that they're in a [[CreatorBreakdown post-9/11 Frank Miller]] comic. Because of this, [[HeroicComedicSociopath Batman]] can easily manipulate them both.

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* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: The Goddamn Batman fantasizes about what he could do with Green Lantern's ring - force everyone to think ''his'' way. God help us.
* WrongGenreSavvy: Poor Superman and Green Lantern are oblivious to the fact that they're in a [[CreatorBreakdown post-9/11 Frank Miller]] comic. Because of this, [[HeroicComedicSociopath the Goddamn Batman]] can easily manipulate them both.
4th Jun '17 6:17:06 PM Drope
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* AllThereInTheManual: The story makes more sense as a sequel to ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'' when you read issue #10 and some plot points, such as Batman's relationship with Green Lantern, become very interesting when compared to ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain''. Also confirmed by WordOfGod is that the series is in the same universe as ''The Dark Knight Returns''.

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* AllThereInTheManual: The story makes more sense as a sequel to ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'' when you read issue #10 and some plot points, such as the Goddamn Batman's relationship with Green Lantern, become very interesting when compared to ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain''. Also confirmed by WordOfGod is that the series is in the same universe as ''The Dark Knight Returns''.



* AntiHero: Batman and ComicBook/BlackCanary. Black Canary savagely beats up a bar full of men for rude behavior and steals their wallets, and Batman is a psychotic lunatic who brutalizes anyone in his way, even if they didn't do anything. They are the good guys of the story.

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* AntiHero: The Goddamn Batman and ComicBook/BlackCanary. Black Canary savagely beats up a bar full of men for rude behavior and steals their wallets, and Batman is a psychotic lunatic who brutalizes anyone in his way, even if they didn't do anything. They are the good guys of the story.



* CharacterDevelopment: Batman starts out completely insane and isolated but is ''slowly'' becoming more human thanks to the influence of Dick Grayson ([[InsistentTerminology age 12]]). Not very noticeable due to the large amount of padding but it's definitely there.
** Miller himself has stated that this was the entire point: to explain why Batman needed a kid sidekick, anyway--to bring him back down to earth after a period of having too much fun with his crime-fighting.

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* CharacterDevelopment: The Goddamn Batman starts out completely insane and isolated but is ''slowly'' becoming more human thanks to the influence of Dick Grayson ([[InsistentTerminology age 12]]). Not very noticeable due to the large amount of padding but it's definitely there.
** Miller himself has stated that this was the entire point: to explain why the Goddamn Batman needed a kid sidekick, anyway--to bring him back down to earth after a period of having too much fun with his crime-fighting.



** Batman rants to Robin about how he can call his "Batmobile" whatever he wants. In ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' Batman muses that it was Robin who came up with the term.

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** The Goddamn Batman rants to Robin about how he can call his "Batmobile" whatever he wants. In ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' Batman muses that it was Robin who came up with the term.



** Batman speculating that hecould make people think his way wit Green Lantern´s ring... that´s not how it works Bruce.

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** Batman speculating that hecould he could make people think his way wit Green Lantern´s ring... that´s not how it works Bruce.



* HeroicComedicSociopath: Batman and Black Canary. Batgirl and Robin are Heroic Comedic Sociopaths-in-training.

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* HeroicComedicSociopath: The Goddamn Batman and Black Canary. Batgirl and Robin are Heroic Comedic Sociopaths-in-training.



* ImmediateSelfContradiction: Not exactly immediate, but in one issue, Batman calls Green Lantern a moron, then soon after says Green Lantern is a great man.
* InNameOnly: Pretty much ''everyone'' is insanely OutOfCharacter, but Black Canary is given an entirely new back story and motivation, turning from a LegacyCharacter of her mother into an Irish immigrant from a [[MassiveNumberedSiblings large family]] working at a sleazy bar, who was inspired into crime-fighting ([[SociopathicHero and, well, crime]]) by Batman.

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* ImmediateSelfContradiction: Not exactly immediate, but in one issue, the Goddamn Batman calls Green Lantern a moron, then soon after says Green Lantern is a great man.
* InNameOnly: Pretty much ''everyone'' is insanely OutOfCharacter, but Black Canary is given an entirely new back story and motivation, turning from a LegacyCharacter of her mother into an Irish immigrant from a [[MassiveNumberedSiblings large family]] working at a sleazy bar, who was inspired into crime-fighting ([[SociopathicHero and, well, crime]]) by the Goddamn Batman.



** In universe and out, Batman and Canary have been making out under the rain and "[[Comicbook/{{Watchmen}} under the hood]]", when Batman mentions he can drive her home... in his Batmobile. Canary shows disappointment with her idol's naming choice. Which instantly kills the mood for everyone involved, including the readership, because this Batman is ''really touchy'' about his stuff and his person not being as awesome as he thinks it is.

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** In universe and out, Batman and Canary have been making out under the rain and "[[Comicbook/{{Watchmen}} under the hood]]", when Batman mentions he can drive her home... in his Batmobile. Canary shows disappointment with her idol's naming choice. Which instantly kills the mood for everyone involved, including the readership, because this (Goddamn) Batman is ''really touchy'' about his stuff and his person not being as awesome as he thinks it is.



* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Anyone who is not Batman or disagrees with what he's doing is ineffectual, stupid, and/or evil. Anyone who ''is'' Batman or agrees with his methods is heroic and awesome.
* PsychopathicManchild: In addition to the joy he takes in violence, Batman has the temperament of a child, getting incredibly moody and angry whenever someone isn't impressed with his cave or gadgets. Possibly done as a [[DeconstructedTrope deconstruction]] of Batman. ''We hope.''

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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Anyone who is not the Goddamn Batman or disagrees with what he's doing is ineffectual, stupid, and/or evil. Anyone who ''is'' the Goddamn Batman or agrees with his methods is heroic and awesome.
* PsychopathicManchild: In addition to the joy he takes in violence, the Goddamn Batman has the temperament of a child, getting incredibly moody and angry whenever someone isn't impressed with his cave or gadgets. Possibly done as a [[DeconstructedTrope deconstruction]] of Batman. ''We hope.''



* TrainingFromHell: Clearly what Batman intended for Robin.

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* TrainingFromHell: Clearly what the Goddamn Batman intended for Robin.



'''Batman:''' What are you, ''dense''? Are you ''retarded'' or something? Who the hell do you ''think'' I am? I'm the Goddamn ''Batman''.

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'''Batman:''' '''(Goddamn) Batman:''' What are you, ''dense''? Are you ''retarded'' or something? Who the hell do you ''think'' I am? I'm the Goddamn ''Batman''.
4th Jun '17 7:53:43 AM ImSpidey2
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->''"What, are you dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? [[MemeticMutation I'm the Goddamn Batman]]."''

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->''"What, are you dense? '''dense'''? Are you retarded '''retarded''' or something? Who the hell do you think '''think''' I am? [[MemeticMutation I'm the Goddamn Batman]].Goddamn]] '''[[MemeticBadass Batman]]'''."''
25th May '17 1:46:34 PM ritzoreo
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** Batman speculating that hecould make people think his way wit Green Lantern´s ring... that´s not how it works Bruce.
10th May '17 6:55:35 AM ImSpidey2
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-->''"[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Which is precisely where this script came from, too.]]"''
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