History CombatPragmatist / AnimeAndManga

11th Jul '17 1:35:31 AM ultimomant
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* In ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'', Mordred says she is willing to do anything to win a fight, so she uses punches, kicks, and bites in sword duels.

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* In ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'', Mordred says she is willing to do anything to win a fight, so she uses punches, kicks, and bites in sword duels. Her Master, Kairi, who himself is a Magus but is willing to use modern weapons like guns and grenades, approves of her tactics, but others find them in bad taste.
11th Jul '17 1:28:17 AM ultimomant
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* In ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'', Mordred says she is willing to do anything to win a fight, so she uses punches, kicks, and bites in sword duels.
18th Jun '17 10:15:47 PM Hanz
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* LightNovel/KonoSubarashiiSekaiNiShukufukuO has Kazuma the protagonist. He is this trope personified, doing everything from launching psychological attacks, using magic in a sword fight, stealing his opponent's weapons mid battle, the list goes on. To a point this elevate him to BadassNormal compared to other people in his party who actually have useful combat skills to a point of CripplingOverspecialization

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* LightNovel/KonoSubarashiiSekaiNiShukufukuO LightNovel/KonoSuba has Kazuma the protagonist. He is this trope personified, doing everything from launching psychological attacks, using magic in a sword fight, stealing his opponent's weapons mid battle, the list goes on. To a point this elevate him to BadassNormal compared to other people in his party who actually have useful combat skills to a point of CripplingOverspecialization
16th Jun '17 4:22:38 PM ZombieAladdin
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* Many examples in ''Manga/HunterXHunter'', but the most straightforward example is Morel vs. Leol. He lured Leol into an enclosed space, and by that point, Morel had already won: It didn't matter what impressive powers [[PowerCopying Leol had copied]]--Morel used his smoke powers to lower the oxygen levels down so low that Leol was rendered unable to breathe.

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* Many examples in ''Manga/HunterXHunter'', but the most straightforward example is Morel vs. Leol. He lured Leol into an enclosed space, and by that point, Morel had already won: It didn't matter what impressive powers [[PowerCopying Leol had copied]]--Morel used his smoke powers to lower the kill his opponent through oxygen levels down so low that Leol was rendered unable to breathe.deprivation.
16th Jun '17 4:20:06 PM ZombieAladdin
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* Many examples in ''Manga/HunterXHunter'', but the most straightforward example is Morel vs. Leol. He lured Leol into an enclosed space, and by that point, Morel had already won: It didn't matter what impressive powers [[PowerCopying Leol had copied]]--Morel used his smoke powers to lower the oxygen levels down so low that Leol was rendered unable to breathe.
26th May '17 3:02:00 PM DarkHunter
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'''s Guts is no honorable swordsman. He's willing to let opponents beat him up so that he can blast them with his ArmCannon at point-blank range, ''bites an opponent's sword'' in one fight after Griffith [[BladeRun jumps on his sword]], and actually prefers to kill opponents with long-ranged weapons rather than engaging in melee combat.
** And this doesn't even mention things like his willingness to take innocents hostage if he thinks that it'll give him an advantage, which fits the concept of "fighting dirty" much better than anything mentioned there. At one point, he uses a small child, hanging by his clothes on his sword, as bait to distract a swarm of vicious, homicidal "fairies" into chasing him into a barn where he blows them up. The kid doesn't get hurt, either.
*** At one point, Guts is training Isidro (a young boy who [[WrongGenreSavvy seems to believe Berserk is a SHONEN manga]]) and Isidro nearly pulls off a sneaky attack using his speed and smaller size to his advantage. Isidro berates himself for trying something so dishonorable, but Guts praises the pragmatism of the attack, telling Isidro that he needs to use every advantage he has.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'''s ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'':
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Guts is no honorable swordsman. He's willing to let opponents beat him up so that he can blast them with his ArmCannon at point-blank range, ''bites an opponent's sword'' in one fight after Griffith [[BladeRun jumps on his sword]], and actually prefers to kill opponents with long-ranged weapons rather than engaging in melee combat.
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combat. And this doesn't even mention things like his willingness to take innocents hostage if he thinks that it'll give him an advantage, which fits the concept of "fighting dirty" much better than anything mentioned there. At one point, he uses a small child, hanging by his clothes on his sword, as bait to distract a swarm of vicious, homicidal "fairies" into chasing him into a barn where he blows them up. The kid doesn't get hurt, either.
*** ** At one point, Guts is training Isidro (a young boy who [[WrongGenreSavvy seems to believe Berserk is a SHONEN manga]]) and Isidro nearly pulls off a sneaky attack using his speed and smaller size to his advantage. Isidro berates himself for trying something so dishonorable, but Guts praises the pragmatism of the attack, telling Isidro that he needs to use every advantage he has. Isidro grudgingly takes this lesson to heart and it serves him very well.
** Serpico displays a knack for this whenever he fights Guts. Knowing that Guts is much, ''much'' stronger than he is, he always forces a battle in some kind of terrain that puts Guts at a disadvantage, like a narrow cliff edge or a room full of huge stone pillars that make it impossible for Guts to swing the Dragon Slayer around.
23rd May '17 6:25:49 PM DarkHunter
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*** At one point, Guts is training Isidoro (a young boy who [[WrongGenreSavvy seems to believe Berserk is a SHONEN manga]]) and Isidoro nearly pulls off a sneaky attack using his speed and smaller size to his advantage. Isidoro berates himself for trying something so dishonorable, but Guts praises the pragmatism of the attack, telling Isidoro that he needs to use every advantage he has.

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*** At one point, Guts is training Isidoro Isidro (a young boy who [[WrongGenreSavvy seems to believe Berserk is a SHONEN manga]]) and Isidoro Isidro nearly pulls off a sneaky attack using his speed and smaller size to his advantage. Isidoro Isidro berates himself for trying something so dishonorable, but Guts praises the pragmatism of the attack, telling Isidoro Isidro that he needs to use every advantage he has.
14th May '17 5:12:58 AM isoycrazy
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* In ''Maou no Hisho'' (Satan's Secretary) Satan has captured one human secretary. She will willingly serve Satan if he makes her his secretary. She then proposes a plan to his elite forces to win the upcoming war against the destined hero: kill the hero while he is still a child and kill the Saints who keep bringing him back. Do it now and swiftly and they could win the war in a rough 72 hours. If they push hard, they might make it in 48 hours. If they didn't like this one, she suggests spreading an illness throughout human lands by using their trade system that will become a plague while also salting the earth so nothing will grow that isn't infected. This will lead to massive human casualties, instability in the government and eventual riots against the human governments.
28th Apr '17 4:51:44 AM isoycrazy
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* In ''Goblin is Very Strong'' the VillainProtagonist Honwasabi used to be a normal weak goblin, but she came across a nearly dead hero and finished him off. She gained a level. She kept at this until she is now a level 99 goblin and considered on par with the Demon Lord. She isn't above making idle chat with heroes or other distracting discussions before finishing them off. As heroes revive back at the palace, it isn't a permanent death.
12th Mar '17 11:09:45 AM nombretomado
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* ''Manga/{{Vagabond}}'' has MiyamotoMusashi who ironically embodies this trope more so than ''merely'' being a swordsman; more specifically he is described as "flexible and unfettered," taking the opportunity as it comes. Notably demonstrated in fighting the Yoshioka at Ichijouji, as [[spoiler:he takes the opportunity of showing up an hour early and from the mountains instead of the road, allowing him to severely wound their leader right at the beginning]]. He may have defeated Inshun, Shishido Baiken (his DualWielding was to overcome the different mechanics involved in the chain and sickle), and the Yoshioka brothers (defeating the second brother's attempt to clinch and set up a killing blow by gutting him with his own wakizashi ''on instinct''), but this is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome ''the'' defining fight]] for him. It's also a defining fight for the Yoshioka as they ''try'' and almost succeed at this, but can't quite "reach that far" and he mostly succeeds at fending off their attempts. (The closest they ever come to actually killing Musashi is when [[spoiler:Nanpo Yoichibe tackles him to the ground and holds him down]], but it fails since [[spoiler:his cohorts hesitate to simply stab Musashi to death ''through'' Yoichibe]].)

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* ''Manga/{{Vagabond}}'' has MiyamotoMusashi UsefulNotes/MiyamotoMusashi who ironically embodies this trope more so than ''merely'' being a swordsman; more specifically he is described as "flexible and unfettered," taking the opportunity as it comes. Notably demonstrated in fighting the Yoshioka at Ichijouji, as [[spoiler:he takes the opportunity of showing up an hour early and from the mountains instead of the road, allowing him to severely wound their leader right at the beginning]]. He may have defeated Inshun, Shishido Baiken (his DualWielding was to overcome the different mechanics involved in the chain and sickle), and the Yoshioka brothers (defeating the second brother's attempt to clinch and set up a killing blow by gutting him with his own wakizashi ''on instinct''), but this is [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome ''the'' defining fight]] for him. It's also a defining fight for the Yoshioka as they ''try'' and almost succeed at this, but can't quite "reach that far" and he mostly succeeds at fending off their attempts. (The closest they ever come to actually killing Musashi is when [[spoiler:Nanpo Yoichibe tackles him to the ground and holds him down]], but it fails since [[spoiler:his cohorts hesitate to simply stab Musashi to death ''through'' Yoichibe]].)



* Yaiba from the [[Manga/{{Yaiba}} eponymous manga]] firmly believes in this trope. Well, his mentor is MiyamotoMusashi after all... that explains a lot of things...

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* Yaiba from the [[Manga/{{Yaiba}} eponymous manga]] firmly believes in this trope. Well, his mentor is MiyamotoMusashi UsefulNotes/MiyamotoMusashi after all... that explains a lot of things...
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