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[[center: [- [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles3 Main Character Index]] | [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles3Ouroboros Ouroboros]] | [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles3Heroes Heroes]] | [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles3Aionios Inhabitants of Aionios]] ([[Characters/XenobladeChronicles3TheFounders The Founders]]) | [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles3Moebius Moebius]] '''(Consul N)''' -] ]]

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** Surface-level differences include Jin having white hair and being mainly associated with the color silver, while N has black hair and wears gold armor. Another minor difference is Jin being from Alrest, as opposed from the original incarnation of Noah/N being from the world of the Bionis. Jin is inspired by various ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud and Sephiroth]] (while still retaining elements of familiar ''Xeno'' archetypes) while N is completely influenced by previous ''Xeno'' characters like [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} Kevin Winnicott]] and [[VideoGame/{{Xenogears}} Lacan[=/=]Grahf]]

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** Surface-level differences include Jin having white hair and being mainly associated with the color silver, while N has black hair and wears gold armor. Another minor difference is Jin being from Alrest, as opposed from the original incarnation of Noah/N being from the world of the Bionis. Jin is inspired by various ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud and Sephiroth]] (while still retaining elements of familiar ''Xeno'' archetypes) while N is completely influenced by previous ''Xeno'' characters like [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} Kevin Winnicott]] and [[VideoGame/{{Xenogears}} Lacan[=/=]Grahf]]Lacan[=/=]Grahf]].
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** He acts like he had no problems slaughtering his own flesh and blood for Moebius, but it's clear in ''Future Redeemed'' that it's blatantly untrue. He only killed his son when Ghondor jumped between him and Na'el and the act shocked N to his core. N's grief about killing Ghondor and his reluctance to fight his great grandson results in N allowing himself to be punched by Matthew.

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** He acts like he had no problems slaughtering his own flesh and blood for Moebius, but it's clear in ''Future Redeemed'' that it's blatantly untrue. He only killed his son when Ghondor jumped between him and Na'el and the act shocked N to his core. N's grief about killing Ghondor and his reluctance N is also reluctant to fight his great grandson Matthew, even if it results in N allowing himself to be punched by Matthew.him getting punched.



** Surface-level differences include Jin having white hair and being mainly associated with the color silver in his physical appearance, while N has black hair and is associated with the color gold with his Moebius armor. Another minor difference is Jin being from Alrest, as opposed from the original incarnation of Noah/N being from the world of the Bionis. Jin is inspired by various ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud and Sephiroth]] (while still retaining elements of familiar ''Xeno'' archetypes) while N is completely influenced by previous ''Xeno'' characters like [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} Kevin Winnicott]] and [[VideoGame/{{Xenogears}} Lacan[=/=]Grahf]]

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** Surface-level differences include Jin having white hair and being mainly associated with the color silver in his physical appearance, silver, while N has black hair and is associated with the color wears gold with his Moebius armor. Another minor difference is Jin being from Alrest, as opposed from the original incarnation of Noah/N being from the world of the Bionis. Jin is inspired by various ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters like [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Cloud and Sephiroth]] (while still retaining elements of familiar ''Xeno'' archetypes) while N is completely influenced by previous ''Xeno'' characters like [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} Kevin Winnicott]] and [[VideoGame/{{Xenogears}} Lacan[=/=]Grahf]]



** N is emotive and gloats when he has the upper hand, while Jin rarely looses his cool, which serves to hide his cynicism and despair towards the world. Likewise, N is more prone to extreme displays of emotion, such as when he finds out his gambit to break Noah failed in Chapter 6, whereas Jin remains relatively composed even when recalling all of his past traumas and facing failure in the present.

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** N is emotive and gloats when he has the upper hand, while Jin rarely looses his cool, which serves to hide his cynicism and despair towards the world. Likewise, N is more prone to extreme displays of emotion, such as when he finds out his gambit to break Noah failed in Chapter 6, whereas Jin remains relatively composed even when recalling all of his past traumas and facing failure in the present.



** N tore down everything he worked for in his previous life by destroying the first City, while Jin's CynicismCatalyst was [[AllForNothing having to watch his home continent and the people living on it be destroyed]]. ''Future Redeemed'' reveals that the destruction of the first City was the result of N trying to stop Alpha, the latest incarnation of the Ontos core, while the destruction of Torna happened because of the incarnations of the Logos and Pneuma cores, Malos and Mythra, going into a no-holds-barred battle with their Artifices and utilizing the full extent of their power, while Jin was helpless to prevent it from happening. So the destruction of both Jin and N's homes are both tied to the Trinity Processor cores, but N had no choice but to destroy it while Jin was helpless in watching the destruction.

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** N tore down everything he worked for in his previous life by destroying the first City, while Jin's CynicismCatalyst was [[AllForNothing having to watch his home continent and the people living on it be destroyed]]. ''Future Redeemed'' reveals that the destruction of the first City was the result of N trying to stop Alpha, the latest incarnation of the Ontos core, while the destruction of Torna happened because of the incarnations of the Logos and Pneuma cores, Malos and Mythra, going into a no-holds-barred battle with their Artifices and utilizing the full extent of their power, while Jin was helpless to prevent it from happening. So the destruction of both Jin and N's homes are both tied to the Trinity Processor cores, but N had no choice but to destroy it while Jin was helpless in watching the destruction. happening.



** Jin intentionally killed Haze/Fan La Norne in what he considered a means to [[MercyKill free her]] of Amalthus's influence (whom she talked about in ''Torna'' as being someone she'd never want to be bonded to) after he erased her memories of her life as Lora's Blade and forcibly removed her Core Crystal and grafted it onto himself, while N seeks to kill Na'el not to free her from Alpha's control, [[TheUnfettered but to prevent Alpha from having a vessel from which to carry out his own plans]] on Aionios. Both end up having a MyGodWhatHaveIDone reaction as a result of this, but whereas Jin's happens because of his own regret at having to kill Lora's other Blade and his former friend, N's happens because his pursuit of Alpha resulted in N [[MurderByMistake accidentally killing]] his own son, Ghondor.
** One of Jin's catalysts for his fall, and one of the general resentments he always held in regards to being a Blade, is that he is forced to forget every past life he's lived -- best demonstrated when he comes across a picture of himself and a former driver he was implied to have been in love with. In contrast, one catalyst for N turning to evil was Z forcing him to relive all the memories of his past lives against his will, and is driven to despair over all of his past incarnations' failures to stop Z, live out their life with Mio, or both. One is inherent to the nature of Jin as a Blade, while the other is forced upon N to become Moebius, and both catalysts relate to their memories of their past lives and failures.

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** Jin intentionally killed Haze/Fan La Norne in what he considered a means to [[MercyKill free her]] of Amalthus's influence (whom she talked about in ''Torna'' as being someone she'd never want to be bonded to) after he erased her memories of her life as Lora's Blade and forcibly removed her Core Crystal and grafted it onto himself, while N seeks to kill Na'el not to free her from Alpha's control, [[TheUnfettered but to prevent Alpha from having a vessel from which to carry out his own plans]] on Aionios. Both end up having a MyGodWhatHaveIDone reaction as a result of this, but whereas Jin's happens because of his own regret at having to kill Lora's other Blade and his former friend, N's happens because his pursuit of Alpha resulted in N [[MurderByMistake accidentally killing]] his own son, Ghondor.
** One of Jin's catalysts for his fall, and one of the general resentments he always held in regards to being a Blade, is that he is forced to forget every past life he's lived -- best demonstrated when he comes across a picture of himself and a former driver he was implied to have been in love with. In contrast, one catalyst for N turning to evil was Z forcing him to relive all the memories of his past lives against his will, lives, and is driven to despair over all of his past incarnations' failures to stop Z, live out their life with Mio, or both. One is inherent to the nature of Jin as a Blade, while the other is forced upon N to become Moebius, and both catalysts relate to their memories of their past lives and failures.



** During the final battle against Alpha in ''Future Redeemed'', N ends up crossing his own GodzillaThreshold by activating the Ouroboros power of everyone in the party to its fullest extent and creating the first Ouroboros Interlink in order to put an end to Alpha for good. Prior to this, the power of Ouroboros was mainly to power up normal attacks, and the original City's inhabitants were beginning to move on from it when advances in technology were made while the Ouroboros power didn't see any new innovation introduced. But when N activated the Ouroboros power to its fullest potential using the Pneuma core embedded in Matthew's Fists of the End, he indirectly contributed to the advances Riku was making on the Ouroboros Stone, and thus eventually resulting in the Ouroboros stones being seen in ''3'' that allowed for Ouroboros to Interlink -- which ended up leading to the fall of Moebius and Z.

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** During the final battle against Alpha in ''Future Redeemed'', N ends up crossing his own GodzillaThreshold by activating the Ouroboros power of everyone in the party to its fullest extent and creating the first Ouroboros Interlink in order to put an end to Alpha for good. Prior to this, the power of Ouroboros was mainly to power up normal attacks, attacks and was starting to become obsolete with the original City's inhabitants were beginning to move on from it when advances in technology were made while the Ouroboros power didn't see any development of new innovation introduced.City technology. But when N activated the Ouroboros power to its fullest potential using the Pneuma core embedded in Matthew's Fists of the End, he indirectly contributed to the advances Riku was making on the Ouroboros Stone, and thus eventually resulting in the Ouroboros stones being seen in ''3'' that allowed for Ouroboros to Interlink -- which ended up leading to the fall of Moebius and Z.



* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: ''Future Redeemed'' shows him as being the only person on Aionios capable of dueling Alpha to a standstill, multiple times. To put this into perspective, the combined power of Shulk, Rex, and Z wasn't enough to defeat Alpha, which resulted in the [[AnArmAndALeg loss of Shulk's right arm]], [[EyeScream Rex losing his left eye]], and Alpha taking control of Origin while [[BadassInDistress trapping Z inside of it]]. N, on the other hand, ended up forcing Alpha to retreat in their second fight and was able to prevent Alpha from absorbing Matthew in the final battle. Notably it is not simple power that enables him to do this, but rather the strength of his emotions disrupting the emotion-based power Alpha uses from their host.

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* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: ''Future Redeemed'' shows him as being the only person on Aionios capable of dueling Alpha to a standstill, multiple times. To put this into perspective, the combined power of Shulk, Rex, and Z wasn't enough to defeat Alpha, which resulted in the [[AnArmAndALeg loss of Shulk's right arm]], [[EyeScream Rex losing his left eye]], and Alpha taking control of Origin while [[BadassInDistress trapping Z inside of it]].imprisoning Z. N, on the other hand, ended up forcing Alpha to retreat in their second fight and was able to prevent Alpha from absorbing Matthew in the final battle. Notably it is not simple power that enables him to do this, but rather the strength of his emotions disrupting the emotion-based power Alpha uses from their host.



** ''Future Redeemed'' reveals that, for all his posturing about his descendants being "mere chaff", he still cared about his son Ghondor and had no intention of killing him, and only did so unintentionally when Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped to protect Na'el]]. When Matthew confronts him about Ghondor's death on Prison Island and punches N in the face for it, N notably doesn't fight back or attempt to defend himself, thus indicating that he truly felt as if he deserved to be punished for the death of his own son, even if his death was accidental. Not even Mio in ''3'', the latest incarnation of his own wife, was able to call him out without N giving her many different justifications and excuses for his motives -- the fact that Matthew was able to do so with little resistance from N, if any, just shows how guilt-ridden N is from the death of his own son.

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** ''Future Redeemed'' reveals that, for all his posturing about his descendants being "mere chaff", he still cared about his son Ghondor and had no intention of killing him, and only did so unintentionally when Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped to protect Na'el]]. When Matthew confronts him about Ghondor's death on Prison Island and punches N in the face for it, N notably doesn't fight back or attempt try to defend himself, thus indicating that he truly felt as if he deserved to be punished for the death of his own son, even if his death was accidental. Not even Mio in ''3'', the latest incarnation of his own wife, was able to call him out without N giving her many different justifications and excuses for his motives -- the fact that Matthew was able to do so with little resistance from N, if any, just shows how guilt-ridden N is from the death of his own son.accidental.



* GiverOfLameNames: Much like the current incarnation of Noah, N can't come up with a name for something without being embarrassed about it later. It's to the point where he couldn't even trust himself to come up with a name for his child out of fear that it might not be a good one while at the same time glancing at his sword in embarrassment at what he named it. In ''Future Redeemed'', we see him call Matthew's Ouroboros Gauntlets by the rather uninspired name "Fists of the End" as an example of how bad his names can be.

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* GiverOfLameNames: Much like the current incarnation of Noah, N can't come up with a name for something without being embarrassed about it later. It's to the point where he He couldn't even trust himself to come up with a name for his child out of fear that it might not be a good one while at the same time glancing at his sword in embarrassment at what he named it. In ''Future Redeemed'', we see him call Matthew's Ouroboros Gauntlets by the rather uninspired name "Fists of the End" as an example of how bad his names can be.



*** Meanwhile, N serves as the biggest barrier to Alpha's own plans, and it's revealed that the destruction of the City happened because N was trying to prevent Alpha from taking all of the City's people to a different world while leaving Aionios and everyone in it behind to be destroyed. Their fight with Alpha in the City ends up being the catalyst for A splitting off from Alpha, but it also results in N accidentally killing his son Ghondor, whose death results in a burst of Ouroboros energy destroying the City entirely. Even afterwards, the Founders' initial confrontation with Alpha is interrupted by N at Raguel Lake, Alpha fails to take Matthew with the rest of the City people to another world because N arrives at just the right moment to break Alpha's concentration and free both Matthew and Na'el, and it is N's activation of the Founders' Ouroboros power that results in the first Interlink, which ends up defeating Alpha.

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*** Meanwhile, N serves as the biggest barrier to Alpha's own plans, and it's revealed that the destruction of the City happened was destroyed because N was trying to prevent Alpha from taking all of the City's people to a different world while leaving Aionios and everyone in it behind to be destroyed. Their fight with Alpha in the City ends up being the catalyst for A splitting off from Alpha, but it also results in N accidentally killing his son Ghondor, whose death results in a burst of Ouroboros energy destroying the City entirely. Even afterwards, the Founders' initial confrontation with Alpha is interrupted by N at Raguel Lake, Alpha fails to take Matthew with the rest of the City people to another world because N arrives at just the right moment to break Alpha's concentration and free both Matthew and Na'el, and it is N's activation of the Founders' Ouroboros power that results in the first Interlink, which ends up defeating Alpha.



* OffingTheOffspring: Amongst those in the City he killed in order to revive M were descendants of him and M. As seen in ''Future Redeemed'', he personally killed his own son Ghondor in front of Matthew, one of Ghondor's grandchildren and N's great-grandson, albeit unintentionally as Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped in the way]] of his actual target Na'el, N's great-granddaughter. When confronted about this by Noah during their final confrontation, N refers to them as "mere chaff" and argues that it was his right as their originator to kill them as he pleased, though Noah believes this is just an excuse to distance himself from his guilt. The bitter truth about this was that it was the lesser of two evils; Na'el was being used as a vessel by Alpha, whose goal was to transport away the people of the City to a new world while the rest of Aionios would be destroyed. [[EvilVersusOblivion His choice was to either kill his own great-granddaughter or doom everyone else to oblivion]], something his son didn't realize until too late.

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* OffingTheOffspring: Amongst those in the City he killed in order to revive M were descendants of him and M. As seen in ''Future Redeemed'', he personally killed his own son Ghondor in front of Matthew, one of Ghondor's grandchildren and N's great-grandson, Ghondor, albeit unintentionally as Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped in the way]] of his actual target Na'el, N's great-granddaughter. When confronted about this by Noah during their final confrontation, N refers to them as "mere chaff" and argues that it was his right as their originator to kill them as he pleased, though Noah believes this is just an excuse to distance himself from his guilt. The bitter truth about this was that it was the lesser of two evils; Na'el was being used as a vessel by Alpha, whose goal was to transport away the people of the City to a new world while the rest of Aionios would be destroyed. [[EvilVersusOblivion His choice was to either kill his own great-granddaughter or doom everyone else to oblivion]], something his son didn't realize until too late.



** The most powerful of all the Consuls barring Z, Y, and X, delivering a CurbStompBattle to the Ouroboros outside of the Li Garte Prison Camp and only didn't kill them because he wanted to torture Noah and drive him over the edge as part of his "sideshow" -- though once it was revealed that M switched bodies with Mio so that she would be the one sent off in place of Mio, N's concentration breaks completely and while still powerful, he is unable to defeat the Ouroboros as he did previously due to Noah gaining access to his own Sword of the End. It also didn't help that part of his reason for tormenting Noah was to alleviate his own guilt by proving to himself that Noah would also turn when faced with Mio's death, and upon that blowing up in his face, it only cemented his regrets over joining Moebius and protecting the "Endless Now".
** ''Future Redeemed'' takes this even further, as the power generated from the copious amounts of despair and anger built up by his failed attempts at killing Z, his regret over joining forces with Moebius, and the destruction of the City as well as him accidentally killing his son has turned him into the only being on Aionios who can duel Alpha to a standstill, and is able to pull a BigDamnHeroes moment in Origin by saving Matthew and Na'el from being pulled into another world by Alpha alongside the rest of the City inhabitants. His status as this is further established by Alpha managing to pull a CurbStompBattle on Shulk, Rex, and Z years before the events of ''Future Redeemed'', and by the implication that the sheathe of N's Sword of the End has the Logos core (Malos' Core Crystal) embedded inside of it, meaning that N's already-enormous feelings of regret and guilt are likely enhanced by the Logos core in the same way [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles2Torna Jin]]'s own despair was built up as a result of Malos' influence.

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** The most powerful of all the Consuls barring Z, Y, and X, delivering a CurbStompBattle to the Ouroboros outside of the Li Garte Prison Camp and only didn't kill spared them because he wanted to torture Noah and drive him over the edge as part of his "sideshow" -- though once it was revealed that M switched bodies with Mio so that she would be the one sent off in place of Mio, N's concentration breaks completely and while still powerful, he is unable to defeat the Ouroboros as he did previously due to Noah gaining access to his own Sword of the End. It also didn't help that part of his reason for tormenting Noah was to alleviate his own guilt by proving prove to himself that Noah would also turn when faced with Mio's death, and upon that blowing up in his face, it only cemented his regrets over joining Moebius and protecting the "Endless Now".
** ''Future Redeemed'' takes this even further, as the power generated from the copious amounts of despair and anger built up by his failed attempts at killing Z, his regret over joining forces with Moebius, and the destruction of the City as well as him City, and accidentally killing his son has turned him into the only being on Aionios who can duel Alpha to a standstill, and is able to pull a BigDamnHeroes moment in Origin by saving Matthew and Na'el from being pulled into another world by Alpha alongside the rest of the City inhabitants. His status as this This is further established by Alpha managing to pull a CurbStompBattle on Shulk, Rex, and Z years before the events of ''Future Redeemed'', and by the implication that the sheathe of N's Sword of the End has the Logos core (Malos' Core Crystal) embedded inside of it, meaning that N's already-enormous feelings of regret and guilt are likely enhanced by the Logos core in the same way [[Characters/XenobladeChronicles2Torna Jin]]'s own despair was built up as a result of Malos' influence.
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** [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in regards to the destruction of the City. Without it being destroyed, Matthew Vandham wouldn't have embarked on his quest to rescue the survivors of the City and eventually rebuild it -- with the second City eventually becoming the greatest enemies of Moebius until Ouroboros came along in ''3''. However, ''Future Redeemed'' then shows that he wasn't seeking to destroy the City, but rather to seek out Alpha and prevent him from evacuating the City's residents to another world while subsequently erasing all of Aionios. Despite this, N still ends up killing his own son [[MurderByMistake by mistake]], who was also Matthew's grandfather, thus spurring Matthew to more directly opposed Moebius as a result of [[YouKilledMyFather his grandfather's murder]].

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** [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in regards to the destruction of the City. Without it being destroyed, Matthew Vandham wouldn't have embarked on his quest to rescue the survivors of the City and eventually rebuild it -- with the second City eventually becoming the greatest enemies of Moebius until Ouroboros came along in ''3''. However, ''Future Redeemed'' then shows that he wasn't seeking to destroy the City, but rather wanted to seek out Alpha and prevent him Alpha from evacuating the City's residents to another world while subsequently before erasing all of Aionios. Despite this, N still ends up killing his own son [[MurderByMistake by mistake]], who was also Matthew's grandfather, thus spurring Matthew to be more directly opposed Moebius as a result of [[YouKilledMyFather his grandfather's murder]].



* GoneHorriblyWrong: His attack on the City was ''supposed'' to be somewhat more surgical than what ultimately happened. While he was admittedly cutting down anyone who got in his way, his real target was the Alpha-possessed Na'el, and once she was in his sights he immediately zeroed in on her to end the affair once and for all. However, before he could deal the final blow, his son Ghondor got in the way of his attack, and it was actually Ghondor's Ouroboros energy spilling out of him that leveled the city. Regardless of what he intended, N is implied to have been [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone horrified by how things turned out]], as when M saw the burning ruins of the city and assumed he killed everyone out of selfishness, he did not bother correcting her.

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* GoneHorriblyWrong: His attack on the City was ''supposed'' to be somewhat more surgical than what ultimately happened. While he was admittedly cutting down anyone who got in his way, his real target was the Alpha-possessed Na'el, and once she was in his sights he immediately zeroed in on her to end the affair once and for all. However, before Before he could deal the final blow, his son Ghondor got in the way of his attack, and it was actually Ghondor's Ouroboros energy spilling out of him that leveled the city. Regardless of what he intended, N is implied to have been [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone horrified by how things turned out]], as when M saw the burning ruins of the city and assumed he killed everyone out of selfishness, he did not bother correcting her.



* IDidWhatIHadToDo: His initial excuse for his actions in ''Future Redeemed'', accepting the role of evil in the EvilVersusOblivion conflict against Alpha to protect Aionios from complete erasure, even if it means slaughtering the City and his own kin to draw him out. This starts to fall apart however when you take into account Z's added incentive to resurrect Mio as M.

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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: His initial excuse for his actions in ''Future Redeemed'', accepting the role of evil in the EvilVersusOblivion conflict against Alpha to protect Aionios from complete erasure, even if it means slaughtering the City and his own kin to draw him out. This starts to fall apart however when you take into account Z's added incentive to resurrect Mio as M.



* LukeIAmYourFather: It is revealed that he is Matthew's great-grandad in ''Future Redeemed''. Unlike the {{Trope Namer|s}} however, who [[{{Expy}} he is very inspired from]], it is A who reveals it to Matthew rather than N himself.
* MixAndMatchWeapon: Wields the same sword within a LaserBlade as Noah, but darker in color; unlike Noah however, he wields the katana as his primary weapon and only uses the "weaker" Blade as a sheath and parrying tool. This is because he's a past incarnation of Noah that's fallen to villainy, but even beforehand the blade was the same color as it is now.

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* LukeIAmYourFather: It is revealed that he is Matthew's great-grandad in ''Future Redeemed''. Unlike the {{Trope Namer|s}} however, Namer|s}}, who [[{{Expy}} he is very inspired from]], it is A who reveals it to Matthew rather than N himself.
* MixAndMatchWeapon: Wields the same sword within a LaserBlade as Noah, but darker in color; unlike Noah however, Noah, he wields the katana as his primary weapon and only uses the "weaker" Blade as a sheath and parrying tool. This is because he's a past incarnation of Noah that's fallen to villainy, but even beforehand the blade was the same color as it is now.



** Looks down on the other Consuls and the fact they treat the ForeverWar as GladiatorGames. Subverted, however, in that this is his ''only'' moral limit; he turns absolutely sadistic when on the field.

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** Looks down on the other Consuls and the fact they treat the ForeverWar as GladiatorGames. Subverted, however, Subverted in that this is his ''only'' moral limit; he turns absolutely sadistic when on the field.



* OffingTheOffspring: Amongst those in the City he killed in order to revive M were descendants of him and M. As seen in ''Future Redeemed'', he personally killed his own son Ghondor in front of Matthew, one of Ghondor's grandchildren and N's great-grandson, albeit unintentionally as Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped in the way]] of his actual target Na'el, N's great-granddaughter. When confronted about this by Noah during their final confrontation, N refers to them as "mere chaff" and argues that it was his right as their originator to kill them as he pleased, though Noah believes this is just an excuse to distance himself from his guilt. The bitter truth about this, however, was that it was the lesser of two evils; Na'el was being used as a vessel by Alpha, whose goal was to transport away the people of the City to a new world while the rest of Aionios would be destroyed. [[EvilVersusOblivion His choice was to either kill his own great-granddaughter or doom everyone else to oblivion]], something his son didn't realize until too late.

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* OffingTheOffspring: Amongst those in the City he killed in order to revive M were descendants of him and M. As seen in ''Future Redeemed'', he personally killed his own son Ghondor in front of Matthew, one of Ghondor's grandchildren and N's great-grandson, albeit unintentionally as Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped in the way]] of his actual target Na'el, N's great-granddaughter. When confronted about this by Noah during their final confrontation, N refers to them as "mere chaff" and argues that it was his right as their originator to kill them as he pleased, though Noah believes this is just an excuse to distance himself from his guilt. The bitter truth about this, however, this was that it was the lesser of two evils; Na'el was being used as a vessel by Alpha, whose goal was to transport away the people of the City to a new world while the rest of Aionios would be destroyed. [[EvilVersusOblivion His choice was to either kill his own great-granddaughter or doom everyone else to oblivion]], something his son didn't realize until too late.



* TookALevelInJerkass: ''Future Redeemed'' reveals this happened to him by the events of ''3''; initially, he was very much on the AntiVillain side of things, with most of his misdeeds being traced back to the conflict against Alpha and how he was forced to commit several acts that destroyed everything he had worked for in his previous life, with even him killing his own son being accidental because of Alpha. In ''3'' however, he has no such excuses and now contently holds up Moebius' oppressive reign of Aionios and is much more sadistic than he was in ''Future Redeemed'', though his guilt still remains despite his many denials of it.

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* TookALevelInJerkass: ''Future Redeemed'' reveals this happened to him by the events of ''3''; initially, he was very much on the AntiVillain side of things, with most of his misdeeds being traced back to the conflict against Alpha and how he was forced to commit several acts that destroyed everything he had worked for in his previous life, with even him killing his own son being accidental because of Alpha. In ''3'' however, ''3'', he has no such excuses and now contently holds up Moebius' oppressive reign of Aionios and is much more sadistic than he was in ''Future Redeemed'', though his guilt still remains despite his many denials of it.



* UnholyMatrimony: He's in a relationship with his fellow Consul M -- which isn't surprising, as they are older versions of [[OfficialCouple Noah and Mio]]. They even had a son when they were mortals. Deconstructed, however, in that M didn't actually ask to be reborn as Moebius; his feelings for her had long turned possessive and toxic, to the point she sacrifices her life for Mio's sake in order to make him realize how far he has fallen.

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* UnholyMatrimony: He's in a relationship with his fellow Consul M -- which isn't surprising, as they are older versions of [[OfficialCouple Noah and Mio]]. They even had a son when they were mortals. Deconstructed, however, Deconstructed in that M didn't actually ask to be reborn as Moebius; his feelings for her had long turned possessive and toxic, to the point she sacrifices her life for Mio's sake in order to make him realize how far he has fallen.
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* LukeIAmYourFather: It is revealed that he is Matthew's great-grandad in ''Future Redeemed''. Unlike the TropeNamer however, who [[{{Expy}} he is very inspired from]], it is A who reveals it to Matthew rather than N himself.

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* LukeIAmYourFather: It is revealed that he is Matthew's great-grandad in ''Future Redeemed''. Unlike the TropeNamer {{Trope Namer|s}} however, who [[{{Expy}} he is very inspired from]], it is A who reveals it to Matthew rather than N himself.
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* OffingTheOffspring: Amongst those in the City he killed in order to revive M were descendants of him and M, As seen in ''Future Redeemed'', he personally killed his own son Ghondor in front of Matthew, one of Ghondor's grandchildren and N's great-grandson, albeit unintentionally as Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped in the way]] of his actual target Na'el, N's great-granddaughter. When confronted about this by Noah during their final confrontation, N refers to them as "mere chaff" and argues that it was his right as their originator to kill them as he pleased, though Noah believes this is just an excuse to distance himself from his guilt. The bitter truth about this, however, was that it was the lesser of two evils; Na'el was being used as a vessel by Alpha, whose goal was to transport away the people of the City to a new world while the rest of Aionios would be destroyed. [[EvilVersusOblivion His choice was to either kill his own great-granddaughter or doom everyone else to oblivion]], something his son didn't realize until too late.

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* OffingTheOffspring: Amongst those in the City he killed in order to revive M were descendants of him and M, M. As seen in ''Future Redeemed'', he personally killed his own son Ghondor in front of Matthew, one of Ghondor's grandchildren and N's great-grandson, albeit unintentionally as Ghondor [[TakingTheBullet jumped in the way]] of his actual target Na'el, N's great-granddaughter. When confronted about this by Noah during their final confrontation, N refers to them as "mere chaff" and argues that it was his right as their originator to kill them as he pleased, though Noah believes this is just an excuse to distance himself from his guilt. The bitter truth about this, however, was that it was the lesser of two evils; Na'el was being used as a vessel by Alpha, whose goal was to transport away the people of the City to a new world while the rest of Aionios would be destroyed. [[EvilVersusOblivion His choice was to either kill his own great-granddaughter or doom everyone else to oblivion]], something his son didn't realize until too late.
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* HeinousnessRetcon: The main story implies he destroyed the first City, killing all its inhabitants, on Z's orders [[DealWithTheDevil in exchange for resurrecting M]], and this is treated as something of a MoralEventHorizon for N in-universe. ''Future Redeemed'' reveals that the first City's destruction was an accidental side-effect of stopping Alpha's evacuation of its people, which [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt would've killed everyone else in Aionios if it'd succeeded.]]
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** Played up in ''Future Redeemed''. His battles with Alpha have him show more resolve than in the main game, opposing the founders mainly to defeat Alpha and even joining in the final battle on the side of good. The primary difference is that in the main game he is focused solely on the present, while in ''Future Redeemed'' he opposes Alpha for their disregard of the past.

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** Played up in ''Future Redeemed''. His battles with Alpha have him show more resolve than in the main game, opposing the founders Founders mainly to defeat Alpha and even joining in the final battle on the side of good. The primary difference is that in the main game he is focused solely on the present, while in ''Future Redeemed'' he opposes Alpha for their disregard of the past.
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** When Mio is about to be sent off during her Homecoming, N has Noah freed from his bonds and throws down his flute in front of him so that Noah can send her off personally before he's executed. Noah is so shaken by this that he simply kneels in shock and despair until M in Mio disapears.

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** When Mio is about to be sent off during her Homecoming, N has Noah freed from his bonds and throws down his flute in front of him so that Noah can send her off personally before he's executed. Noah is so shaken by this that he simply kneels in shock and despair until M in Mio disapears.disappears.

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