History Characters / WithThisRingOrangeLantern

* MagicEater: As of 'Gods and Mortals'', Paul has learned how to absorb magic with his ring, allowing him to fight magic users more effectively.

* MindHug: Through M'gann's PsychicLink, he's very good at giving these. Through the link, he can send images, emotions or tactile sensations through. He often uses it to send feelings of assurance and give others a mental hug.

* EnlightenmentSuperPowers: When he [[spoiler:accepts himself for all his good and bad and accepts his baser desires]], he gains Orange Enlightenment. This means that orange light can no longer mentally corrupt him, he no longer has an [[AchillesHeel extreme weakness to magic]], gained a soul, and can use his ring more easily.

* LargeHam: Both [=OLs=] are ready to break out in song when they feel like it, but Paul shows it far more often.

* SuperEmpowering: Thanks to getting [=DeSaad=]'s research, the Renegade is able to turn beings from Earth into New Gods through a procedure he calls Awakening. This has the advantage of removing the limiters of one's metaphysique, allowing for the [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6036484 increase of power without losing one's humanity]].

* PhotographicMemory: OL can use his power ring to improve his memory, making it so that he won't forget anything he's learned since getting the ring so long as he's wearing it.

* EideticMemory: Uses the ring to improve his memory and uses to remember the pop culture he loves and the things he studied. Although he loses it when he's not wearing the ring.

** This later becomes averted for the Renegade, who loses this due to [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6151418 the fact that becomes a New God makes his body too tough for a ring to manipulate this way]].

* MoralityChain[=/=]MoralityPet: Despite the friction between some teammates, the Renegade does genuinely look out for his teammates and tries to help them any way he can as he does not trust others to do them right.

* CutLexLuthorACheck: Unlike almost every other Lantern, Paul views his ring as a tool rather than a weapon, and is effectively independently wealthy due to using it to mine the solar systems asteroids for gold and platinum. This puts him above even other Orange Lanterns who tend to just become overwhelmed with greed and use force to take anything they want.

** Paul is noted to be sensitive and a natural to telepathy. He can send images and tactile sensations through the PsychicLink.

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* BlackSheep: Is considered odd for a superhero and is believed to be TheMole regardless of his alignment due the fact he spends time with known supervillains and for his polite pro-activeness for Paragon!OL and jerkassery for Renegade!OL.

* BlueAndOrangeMorality: Downplayed, but since he always refers his teammates as "his" but usually doesn't mean anything by it. Due to his exposure to Orange Light, his morality is affected in major and subtle ways. See MoralMyopia.
** In a HeelRealization, Renegade!OL realized that he has the most alien morality of the team.
** It's noted that the Orange Light has distorted Paul's romantic awareness. To him, brushing a girl's hair or giving her a massage is a sign of friendship and a way to increase their camaraderie as opposed to being romantic as he means nothing by it.

* CharacterDevelopment: Both Paragon!OL and Renegade!OL develop in different ways.

--> ''Tiny mask! Tiny, tiny mask!''

* {{Geas}}: Is under one that makes him unable to say or think his own name. He uses trial-and-error to tell the Team that his name is Paul in the Paragon timeline. It has been proven to neither be magically nor telepathically induced.

* {{Greed}}: Technically avarice, but his power is based around wanting things. Though unlike Larfleeze, OL, not being a psychopath who only cares about himself, has a much broader spectrum of what "greed" constitutes as, including protecting his friends and people he cares about.

* HellishPupils: Orange Lantern can use his connection to the Orange Light of Avarice to call upon a bit of the Ophidian's power, allowing him to see a persons soul, and more specifically, what they desire. While doing so, his eyes turn into that of a snakes.

* AMillionIsAStatistic: Due to his ring being powered by avarice his ability to help people is limited by how much he wants to help them, which means [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number Dunbar's number]] and ItsPersonal have an effect how powerful his abilities are. For instance, if he creates a shield to protect one of his friends then that shield will be incredibly powerful, whereas attempting to protect a large group of people in the same way would not result in a very powerful shield. The same logic holds true when fighting someone: the more he wants to hurt/subdue them the better his powers will work. He is very much aware of this flaw, and not at all happy about it.

* MindControl: Orange Lantern can take control of others by branding them the Orange Lantern sigil onto them, but Paul and the Renegade have different variants on it.

* MoralMyopia: Due to his powers being affected by his desires and attachments, his ability to help people is limited by how well he knows them and how much he wants to help. This tends to extend to his thought processes as well. Hurting people he doesn't know is a bad thing, but hurt his teammates or friends? [[ThisIsUnforgivable Then your crime is unforgivable]]. Compare his treatment of Klarion to his treatment of Nabu.

---> '''Orange Lantern:''' Don’t ask me. I’m an atheist.\\

** The Renegade, on the other hand, sees gods more as either jumped up elementals, like Paul, of SufficientlyAdvancedAliens. [[spoiler:It's a little ironic that he later becomes one of the latter, specifically a New God.]]

* PowerIncontinence: If he ''really'' desires something, his ring will respond to that desire. When he restrained Cheshire with construct tentacles he had to take a moment to keep them from strangling her to death due to how intensely he wanted to hurt her at that point. He also can't touch fiat currency without the ring destroying it due to his deep-seated contempt for it.
** At one point he muses that trying to heal someone he well and truly ''hates'' would likely result in the ring killing them instead.

* PsychoactivePowers: In general, since his constructs' strength are determined by avarice, he has difficulty making strong constructs in situations where he lacks strong desire. In effect, this means that a shield over a random stranger is not going to be nearly as strong as a shield over a friend, and making a construct strong enough to harm a random villain he doesn't want to fight is basically impossible.

* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Averted. Both versions despise this trope and have gone to extreme lengths to make advanced technology, magic and superpowers available to society at large. So far, Paul has helped Ted Kord introduce magic weather control drones and Bleed power generators to the marketplace, prepared Wonder Woman's purple healing ray for mass production, and given instant transportation to London with the magic Dolmen Gates. The Renegade has assisted the U.S. government with the destruction of The Light and SHADE, has destroyed several corrupt and genocidal regimes, and has begun giving out advanced weaponry to the police forces to allow them to effectively combat super criminals on their own.

* SmugSuper: OL tends look down on people without powers and see himself as superior due to his abilities. This is less because he thinks that BadassNormal heroes are worthless, and more that he dislikes the pretension that everyone involved in crime fighting is exactly as capable of the same things, and pretending otherwise is just going to get non-powered heroes killed trying to fight above their weight-class, and makes powered heroes hold themselves back for no real reason.

* TheSoulless: As they come from a universe where souls don't exist, both Paragon and Renegade come into Earth 16 without a soul. Subverted in that all this does is render them extremely susceptible to magic with no effect whatsoever on their personalities. Both eventually get a soul just to patch up their vulnerability to magic attacks.
** The Paragon had tattoos that draw in magical energy in order to craft his own soul. [[spoiler:When he fused with the Ophidian, a part of her was made into part of his soul.]]
** The Renegade decided to copy paste a soul based on scans he found in a Father Box he obtained. [[spoiler:Said soul was Grayven's, giving him both the real Grayven's memories and powers.]]

* ThouShallNotKill: [[AvertedTrope Averted]], no matter which incarnation. In a situation where something is presenting clear and present danger to everyone around them, like a war-zone with soldiers using Apokoliptian tech to kill civilians, he skips straight to lethal force and equips allies as such.

** Paragon prefers less-sapient creatures; his constructs are a cat and a demon who's intelligence is less than a monkey's. [[spoiler:He also has the construct of Dr. Morrow, who was assimilated by Truggs, and an Atlantean who broke into the Cave and tried to steal Paul's lantern but ran into the Ophidian.]]
*** [[spoiler:He later gets a few virtually brain dead slaves of the Reach.]]

* AmbiguouslyBi: OL has admitted he has (some kind of) feelings for [[CloningBlues Superboy]], though he is still trying to make sense of them and determine whether they're anything beyond platonic. He's also commented on the attractiveness of several of the females around him. Given the ring influences him through his desire, further exploration of the matter is likely. An early thread has him stating that he ''usually'' prefers women, so who knows? [[spoiler:A LotusEater simulation later has him in a relationship with Superboy, Miss Martian, and Jade.]]
* AmbiguouslyGay: Reputation-wise, he started off as this, as no one could tell if he was interested in Superboy, or simply over-protective. Doesn't help that he never denies the rumors and sometimes plays along with them. It doesn't help that he probably doesn't know himself.

---> ''This is my power''\\

** He later gets a new one after [[spoiler:he becomes [[EnlightenmentSuperPowers enlightened]]]].
---> ''"This is '''my''' cause, this is '''my''' fight!''\\

* HourOfPower: His lantern battery has to recharge after he uses it due to it not being connected to the Orange Central Power Battery so if he uses too much power, he's powerless until next recharge. [[spoiler:Due to the Ophidian residing in the lantern, Paragon!OL no longer has to deal with that.]]

* IAmWhatIAm: In order to break off his [[FusionDance fusion]] to [[spoiler:the Ophidian]], he had to face his worst and most base desire. He faces them and accepts them as he realizes accepting them means he can accept his better self.

* InsistentTerminology: OL addresses Teth Adom as "Mighty One" out of respect to his title as a former pharaoh.
** Always introduces himself as "Orange Lantern Two Eight One Four" so people won't think that he's the only Orange Lantern. [[spoiler:He later changes it to Illustres once the Orange Lantern Corps is set up.]]

'''Robin:''' The Joker. Bet you don’t know-\\

--> '''Miss Martian:''' You were keeping us all organised during the mission.\\

* ObliviousToLove: He has a tendency to not notice when someone has romantic interest in him, or that his actions could be misunderstood as romantic advances.

* OurSoulsAreDifferent: After [[spoiler:the Ophidian]] episode, he's managed to acquire one... somehow. [[spoiler:WordOfGod states that his new soul is actually the Ophidian's heart.]]

* SheepInSheepsClothing: This guy has supervillain powers and no confirmed past beyond his own word, yet he still helps the Team and the League in every way he can. [[spoiler:Even when fused with the Ophidian, all he does is help people.]]

* SuperiorSuccessor: Paul is this compared to Larfleeze for the [[spoiler:Ophidian]]. Paul is sane enough to not suffer the mentally corruptive effects of the Orange Light but controls his Avarice with prioritization and acknowledgement of it. Paul freed [[spoiler:the Ophidian]] from Larfleeze, whom [[spoiler:she]] despises and is planning to form an Orange Lantern Corps, [[spoiler:which the Ophidian also desires]]. Plus, unlike Larfleeze, Paul actually wants the Orange Light and gets angry whenever he's separated from it.

* AchievementsInIgnorance: Renegade!OL is able to convincingly pretend to be Grayven to [=DeSaad=], [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/14862655/ mostly because of his lack of a soul]].

* AntiHero: Renegade!OL is very amoral and will do anything to gain the upper-hand but cares deeply for his friends and does on some level want to do the right thing. Although this does get twisted as he assimilated Sportsmaster and Bane, had the conspirators of "World Without Children" executed and funded a public campaign to humiliate the people behind Count Vertigo's exoneration to the point of the Light considering making him an offer.

* BecomingTheMask: Initially assumed the name of Grayven to make a point. He eventually becomes a New God himself and fully assumes the Grayven persona and history, to the point he calls Darkseid, "father."

* DiscardAndDraw: When he was abducted by Justice Lord!Batman, his Orange Ring was left behind due to him deliberately turning himself in for killing Klarion. While on Earth 50, he picks up the late Sinestro's ring and becomes a Yellow Lantern.

* GodGuise: Renegade!OL is mistaken for a god by Apokoliptian criminals.
** To be fair, the reasons for this are that the Orange Light "feels" Apokoliptian, and in the Renegade timeline he physically resembles Grayven, one of Darkseid's sons.

* HairTriggerTemper: He has a terrible temper and gets angry very easily. [[spoiler:Wonder Woman makes him go to anger management classes to deal with it.]]
* IDidWhatIHadToDo: Is unafraid to get his hands dirty, to say the least.

* MeaningfulRename: [[ForWantOfANail Due to trusting his teammates less]] Renegade!OL didn't let the Team know his real name. Having no name for others or himself to call him by he begins to call himself Grayven after the Forever People mistake him for the actual Grayven.

* SnowballLie: Took the mantle of Grayven to show off and have a name. [[spoiler:Now he can never let down the act, or else Earth will get crushed by Darkseid.]]
* SuperEmpowering: Thanks to getting [=DeSaad=]'s research, the Renegade is able to turn beings from Earth into New Gods through a procedure he calls Awakening.
** This has the advantage of removing the limiters of one's metaphysique, allowing for the [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6036484 increase of power without losing one's humanity]].

* {{Yandere}}: Downplayed. He doesn't '''like''' Superman for his treatment of Conner nor does he remotely respect him. [[spoiler:He outright messes with Superman after the latter temporarily gets depowered by Gold Kryptonite and threatens him when Wonder Woman wasn't listening.]]

[[folder:Paragon!Orange Lantern/Paul/Orange Lantern 2814/[[spoiler:Agent Orange/Illustres]]]]

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[[folder:Host of the Ophidian/[[spoiler:Paulphidian]]]]

** One reader reveals that [[https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-fourteen.8938/page-1101#post-3906984 he's discovered it]]: [[spoiler:Paul Tallowin]]. Mr Zoat responds that [[https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-fourteen.8938/page-1101#post-3907079 he's correct]].
** The reader then says [[https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-fourteen.8938/page-1101#post-3907219 what he did]] to find out the name.

** When OL is feeling a ''lot'' of Avarice, his eyes turn into Orange Lantern Corps Symbols. It must also be noted, however, that this is a common trait shared by any who wield the Emotional Spectrum and are channelling one color particularly strongly (Green Lanterns having Lantern-shaped pupils, Yellow Lanterns having their corps' symbols in their eyes, etc.)

* GRatedDrug: Passive magic has a tendency of making him high.

* SuperEmpowering: Thanks to getting the [=DeSaad=]'s research, the Renegade is able to turn beings from Earth into New Gods through a procedure he calls Awakening.

* BunnyEarsLawyer: How the public and other heroes tend to see OL. He's known as a competent and powerful superhero but he also does strange stunts such as listening to K-Pop immediately after stopping missiles from attacking a missile crisis. Or make a humongous cake to give out to people.

* IAmVeryBritish: He speaks with Received Pronunciation accent due to being around Americans so long.

* OlderThanHeLooks: OL is a grown adult that poses as a teenager. [[spoiler:He's actually 29, later 30.]]