History Characters / VampireTheMasquerade

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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: The party line of the Camarilla asserts that the primary reason for the Masquerade is that if humans were ever to discover that vampires really ''do'' in fact exist, the humans would wipe them off the face of the Earth in short order. They are ''very clearly'' not wrong.
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* AncientConspiracy
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* AncientConspiracyAncientConspiracy: They've been running the world for a long time. Interestingly, they refuse to believe the AncientConspiracy of the Antediluvians.

* TheHermit * HuntingTheMostDangerousGame: A popular pastime among the Antitribu.
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* TheHermit * HuntingTheMostDangerousGame: A popular pastime among the Antitribu.Antitribu, and often how Gangrel choose new targets to Embrace.

* TheHermit * HuntingTheMostDangerousGame: A popular pastime among the Antitribu.NobleSavage: Averted. They have their vices like any other vampire. The Followers of Set handbook is quick to point this out.

* ProudWarriorRace
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* ProudWarriorRaceProudWarriorRace: A Gangrel will not like it if you look down on him.

* CreepyChild: [[spoiler: In "Nightshade," Malkav himself appears as a group of hive-minded children.]]
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* CreepyChild: [[spoiler: In "Nightshade," Malkav himself appears as a group of hive-minded children.little girls.]]

* CreepyChild: [[spoiler: In "Nightshade," Malkav himself appears as a group TheDreaded: A lot of hive-minded children.]]other vampires do not like the Malkavians for their use of Dementation. As one pouts it "Domination might control the mind, but Dementation destroys the soul."

* GoMadFromTheRevelation: Every single member of the clan is driven incurably insane by their experiences during the embrace, assuming they weren't already.
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* GoMadFromTheRevelation: Every single member of the clan is driven incurably insane by their experiences during the embrace, assuming Embrace. Assuming, of course, they weren't already.already insane to begin with.

* InfectiousInsanity: Dementation in a nutshell. [[spoiler: Taken to extremes during "The Crucible of God," when Malkav's lunacy actually starts infecting ordinary human beings, transforming them into unrestrained berserkers or cold-hearted sociopaths.]]
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* InfectiousInsanity: Dementation in a nutshell.One of the most common aspects f Dementation. [[spoiler: Taken to extremes during "The Crucible of God," when Malkav's lunacy actually starts infecting ordinary human beings, transforming them into unrestrained berserkers or cold-hearted sociopaths.]]

* MadOracle
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* MadOracleMadOracle: Their abilities can give them the ability to see the future. More often than not, it will be incomprehensible.

* NightmareFuelStationAttendant
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* NightmareFuelStationAttendantNightmareFuelStationAttendant: The sheer way Dementation can ruin a person's sanity causes them to be this.

* BeautyToBeast: The result of the embrace.
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* BeautyToBeast: The result of the embrace.Embrace.

* KnowledgeBroker
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* KnowledgeBrokerKnowledgeBroker: They spend their days collection secrets and other information, for the most part.

* TheMorlocks
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* TheMorlocksTheMorlocks: No two look alike, but the stereotype of the clan is this.

* NightmareFace
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* NightmareFaceNightmareFace: Theyre is a reason why seeing them is a violation of the Masquerade.

* PunishedWithUgly: The Cleopatras are a natural recipient of this; selected from the ranks of those too beautiful and vain for the local Nosferatu to tolerate, just about every aspect of their new lives- from the initial disfiguration to the new home in the depths of the sewers- is designed to demoralize and humiliate them. Some Nosferatu do this in order to teach the Cleopatra a lesson, while others do it [[ForTheEvulz for their own sick amusement.]]
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* PunishedWithUgly: The Cleopatras are a natural recipient of this; selected from the ranks of those too beautiful and vain for the local Nosferatu to tolerate, just about every aspect of their new lives- from the initial disfiguration to the new home in the depths of the sewers- is designed to demoralize and humiliate them. Some Nosferatu do this in order to teach the Cleopatra a lesson, while others do it [[ForTheEvulz for their own sick amusement.]]]] The Toreador see the Nosferatu as the living embodiment of the trope.

* TakingYouWithMe: In the event that their defences have been breached and they are facing a FateWorseThanDeath at the hands of invaders, Nosferatu have been known to deliberately collapse the roof of the warren to ensure that they at least take the enemy with them.
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* TakingYouWithMe: In the event that their defences defenses have been breached and they are facing a FateWorseThanDeath at the hands of invaders, Nosferatu have been known to deliberately collapse the roof of the warren to ensure that they at least take the enemy with them.

* AgentPeacock
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* AgentPeacockAgentPeacock: Oftentimes.

* [[DistractedByTheSexy Distracted By The Beautiful]]: The Toreador clan flaw means that they easily get attached to something they find beautiful.
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* [[DistractedByTheSexy Distracted By The Beautiful]]: DistractedByTheSexy: The Toreador clan flaw means that they easily get attached to something they find beautiful.

* FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: Of all the modern clans, the Toreador is most likely to fit into this category. They often make a good society from anything to art galleries to children's theater.
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* FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: Of all the modern clans, the Toreador is most likely to fit into this category. They often make As social creatures, they tend to be involved in all aspects of a good society society, and host things ranging from anything to art fine galleries and high society, to children's theater. theater.

* FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire: Of all TheHeart: It was said when the modern clans, Camarilla were created that the Ventrue were the mind behind the organization, but the Toreador is most likely to fit into this category. They often make a good society from anything to art galleries to children's theater. were its soul.

---> "Our influence is forever. The prince's is not."
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---> --> "Our influence is forever. The prince's is not."

* TheVamp
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* TheVampTheVamp: Are almost always beautiful, and command great sex appeal.

* WickedCultured
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* WickedCulturedWickedCultured: Most are incredibly high society.

* AmbitionIsEvil
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* AmbitionIsEvilAmbitionIsEvil: Only the Ventrue exemplify this better.

* BadassBookworm
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* BadassBookwormBadassBookworm: Most Tremere are embraced from scholars and mystics, and often devote themselves to learning. Of course, they fight hard if pressed.

* DealWithTheDevil: Most contracts signed with the Tremere are signed in blood, meaning that you are practically their slaves until the contract is completed.
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* DealWithTheDevil: Most contracts signed with the Tremere are signed in blood, meaning that you are the party is practically their slaves a slave until the contract is completed.

* MadScientist
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* MadScientistMagicVersusScience: Averted. While magic is more common among the Tremere, a significant number of them use scientific advancement, often in conjunction with magic. * MadScientist: While most Tremere use magic, quite a number use science to advance themselves.

* BadassInANiceSuit
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* BadassInANiceSuitBadassInANiceSuit: Their belief is that they must stand out in a crowd, not stick out. Thus, most wear nice suits.

* TheChessmaster
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* TheChessmasterTheChessmaster: If a Ventrue isn't playing someone against another, it's a rare occurence.

* {{Greed}} and {{Pride}}: ''Especially'' Pride.
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* DeadpanSnarker: An attitude favored by the Ventrue. --> '''Ventrue:'''(about the Toreador) For every King, there is a Queen. And there are many queens among the Rose clan. * {{Greed}} and {{Pride}}: ''Especially'' Pride.They are a proud people like many other vampires, but they are the only ones who love money for it's own sake. * InitiationCeremony: Called the 'agoge', just like the Spartan tradition. A childe wishing to be accepted by the clan must take over an aspect of the business world. This can be whatever the childe wants, but he cannot interfere with the business of anyone who assists the childe. As such, most Ventrue, even if they don't care for the childe, will assist.

* ManipulativeBastard * MoreThanMindControl: Dominate is mind control, but it cannot make someone self-destructive or defy their nature. Many Ventrue use this to get around that limitation.
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* ManipulativeBastard ManipulativeBastard: Mind control is their last resort, they will scheme using any method they can. * MoreThanMindControl: Dominate is mind control, but it cannot make someone self-destructive or defy their nature. Many But many Ventrue know how to use this words to get around that limitation.

* PickyPeopleEater: Every Ventrue can only feed from a single type of human, which could be anything from virgins to gay men to a particular ethnicity. Blood that doesn't match the bill provides no benefits and gets vomited up, though the restriction doesn't extend to Kindred blood.
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* PickyPeopleEater: Every Ventrue can only feed from a single type of human, which could be anything from virgins to gay men to a particular ethnicity. Blood that doesn't match the bill provides no benefits and gets vomited up, though the restriction doesn't extend to up. Kindred blood.blood is immune from this. During Gehenna, though, this changes, and Ventrue are only able to feed from other Ventrue.

* ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections * ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney
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* ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections: Thanks to Dominate and Presence, they have the ear of just about anyone in their field. * ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoneyScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: A lot of money.

* SuperToughness: Enemies of the clan tend to forget that the Ventrue possess Fortitude: No matter ''how'' bad they are in combat, they still have the ability to shrug off attacks that would obliterate other Kindred.
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* SuperToughness: Enemies of the clan tend to forget that the Ventrue possess Fortitude: No matter ''how'' bad Even if they are in combat, lack the disciplines to make them better at fighting, they still have the ability to shrug off attacks that would obliterate other Kindred.Kindred. * TeethClenchedTeamwork: Most Ventrue don't particularly care for each other, but a Ventrue will aid another Ventrue if asked (Ventrue are also instructed never to ask unless it is desperately needed.) In addition, Ventrue will often participate in the initation ceremony of another's childe, if only because the ceremony involves taking over an aspect of business, often bringing to ruin rival competitors. Anyone who assists is considered off-limits.

* UpperClassTwit: More likely to evoke this than the Toreador.
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* UpperClassTwit: More likely to evoke Between them and the Toreador, this than the Toreador.is often invoked by other clans.

* WickedCultured
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* WickedCulturedWickedCultured: They are as wicked as any other, but culture and politeness is more important to them than almost any other clan.

* DarkIsEvil
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* DarkIsEvilDarkIsEvil: They control shadows, and are quite evil.

* TheStoic: Much like the Ventrue, they believe in distancing themselves from emotion.
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* TheStoic: Much like the Ventrue, they believe in distancing themselves from emotion. This is particularly true in dealing with their clan weakness. Most Lasombra will pose for portraits, but one who hires a Tzimisce to fleshcraft a ghoul will be mocked.

* AboveGoodAndEvil
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* AboveGoodAndEvilAboveGoodAndEvil: Most other would see them as evil. Tzimisce simply don't care.

* BadPowersBadPeople
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* BadPowersBadPeopleBadPowersBadPeople: Only the Baali are perhaps more wicked.

** Not to mention Vykos, who is referred to as "it" instead of a gender pronoun. Previously male, Vykos removed his genitals and forswore his gender to demonstrate his detachment from humanity.
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** Not to mention Vykos, who is referred to as "it" instead of a gender pronoun. Previously male, Vykos removed his genitals and forswore his any gender to demonstrate his detachment from humanity.

** Not to mention Vykos, who is referred to as "it" instead of a gender pronoun. Previously male, Vykos removed his genitals and forswore his gender to demonstrate his detachment from humanity.* DeaderThanDead: While diablerie can be committed by any vampire, the Assamites were known for it.

* TheHashshashin
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* TheHashshashinTheHashshashin: They formed the ancient organization, and they often serve as assassins.

* MurderInc
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* MurderIncMurderInc: They believe killing, particularly vampires, brings them closer to Hakim.

* ManipulativeBastard
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* ManipulativeBastardManipulativeBastard: They control many vices, and use them against their clients.

* ReligionOfEvil
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* ReligionOfEvilReligionOfEvil: Set is quite an evil deity, and most of them follow him.

* ILoveTheDead
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* ILoveTheDeadILoveTheDead: The Ventrue mock them for this. --> '''Ventrue:''' They never learned the meaning of right and wrong. And what not to stick their cock into.

* BadassBookworm
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* BadassBookwormBadassBookworm: Scholarship was prized among the clan.

* [[AscendedDemon Ascended Vampire]]: Saulot himself, having reached Golconda; the surviving healer Salubri aspire to reach this state.
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* [[AscendedDemon Ascended Vampire]]: AscendedDemon: Saulot himself, having reached Golconda; the surviving healer Salubri aspire to reach this state.

* [[AscendedDemon Ascended Vampire]]: Saulot himself, having reached Golconda; the surviving healer Salubri aspire to reach this state.FlamingSword: A signature Velaren discipline lets a vampire coat any melee weapon with his blood, turning it into a blazing weapon that inflicts aggravated damage.

* HeroWithBadPublicity
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* HeroWithBadPublicityHeroWithBadPublicity: The Tremere smeared them as soul stealers.

* DoesNotLikeMen: There were no male Ahrimanes, because the bloodline's founder had no interest in converting them.
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* DoesNotLikeMen: There were no male Ahrimanes, because the bloodline's founder had no interest in converting them. It's technically possible, but no one has ever done it. * FantasticRacism: In addition to their hatred against men, they also dislike whites. They almost never Embraced white women, and often attacked whites unprovoked.

* [[OneGenderRace One-Gender Bloodline]]: All Ahrimanes were female, though presumably they could have converted male vampires as well.
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* [[OneGenderRace One-Gender Bloodline]]: All Ahrimanes were female, though presumably they could have converted male vampires as well.although this is by choice rather than a requirement.

* CrossMeltingAura: The "Unholy Aura" merit takes this trope to the extreme. Holy relics crumble in their touch, holy men and women flee in terror, and places of worship are corrupted to evil.
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* CrossMeltingAura: The "Unholy Aura" merit takes this trope to the extreme. Holy relics crumble in their touch, holy men and women flee in terror, and places of worship are corrupted to evil. This doesn't stop their clan flaw, however.

** BlobMonster: What a group of Blood Brothers can become with the highest level of Sanguinus.
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** BlobMonster: What a group of Blood Brothers can become with the highest level of Sanguinus. If left to their own devices, they will remain one forever.

* AmazonBrigade: They are all women.
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* AmazonBrigade: They are all mostly women.

** The V20 corebook leaves the possibility of male members of the bloodline open, suggesting the Daughters are largely female, but not exclusively so.
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** The V20 corebook leaves the possibility of male members of the bloodline open, suggesting the Daughters are largely female, but not exclusively so. even having a name for them: The Sons of Discord.

* NightmareFace
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* NightmareFaceNightmareFace: They look downright repulsive.

* PointyEars
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* PointyEarsPointyEars: A hint to their fae heritage.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Surprisingly many of these exist within the clan. While often rude, noisy and very unruly, they are very passionate individuals and are generally one of the clans best in touch with their human side.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Surprisingly many of these exist within the clan. While often rude, noisy and very unruly, they are very passionate individuals and are generally one of the clans best in touch on par with their the Toreador when it comes to understanding the human side.world.

* ObfuscatingStupidity: In the past, intelligent Brujah have played to the clan stereotype in order to fool their enemies, pretending to be more crude and foul-tempered than they actually are to lull opponents into complacency. It got worse.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: In the past, intelligent Brujah have played to the clan stereotype in order to fool their enemies, pretending to be more crude and foul-tempered than they actually are to lull opponents into complacency. It got worse.Nowadays, the stereotype is more common than ever.

* ObfuscatingStupidity: In SitcomArchnemesis: With the past, intelligent Brujah have played to the clan stereotype in order to fool their enemies, pretending to be more crude and foul-tempered than they actually are to lull opponents into complacency. It got worse.Ventrue.

* AnimalEyes: An option for frenzied transformations.
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* AnimalEyes: An A common option for frenzied transformations.

* DishingOutDirt * ElementalShapeshifter: At higher levels of Protean, Gangrel can transform themselves into living fire; they can also meld with the earth, allowing them to travel unseen beneath the ground and avoid sunlight at a moment's notice. The clan founder, Ennoia, like many surviving antediluvians, takes the clan disciplines further than any other- in this case, melding with the entire planet and allowing herself to be lulled to sleep by the earth's core. [[spoiler: In the Gehenna scenario "The Crucible of God," she takes this even further by only manifesting in the form of earthquakes and other natural disasters.]] * FishPeople: The Mariner Bloodline have adapted to living almost exclusively in and on the ocean. Intially, their piscine nature is technically limited to fact that their use of the Protean discipline is modelled after various forms of sea creatures instead of the usual bats and wolves; however, after Frenzying a few times, they begin to take on animalistic features- scales, tentacles, fins, and so on.
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* DishingOutDirt DishingOutDirt: Thanks to their mastery of Protean. * ElementalShapeshifter: At higher levels of Protean, Gangrel can transform themselves into living fire; they can also meld with the earth, allowing them to travel unseen beneath the ground and avoid sunlight at a moment's notice. The clan founder, Ennoia, like many surviving antediluvians, Antediluvians, takes the clan disciplines further than any other- in this case, melding with the entire planet and allowing herself to be lulled to sleep by the earth's core. [[spoiler: In the Gehenna scenario "The Crucible of God," she takes this even further by only manifesting in the form of earthquakes and other natural disasters.disasters, swallowing anyone who tries to enter the Earth.]] * FishPeople: The Mariner Bloodline have adapted to living almost exclusively in and on the ocean. Intially, their piscine nature is technically limited to fact that their use of the Protean discipline is modelled modeled after various forms of sea creatures instead of the usual bats and wolves; however, after Frenzying a few times, they begin to take on animalistic features- scales, tentacles, fins, and so on.features like all Gangrel after frenzy. They just exslucively take the features of sea creatures.
16th Jan '16 3:45:19 AM Boggs
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: I mean, the Giovanni are hated by everyone. But when it comes to the Baali, most everyone's policy is [[KillEmAll kill on sight.]]
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: I mean, the Giovanni are hated by everyone. But everyone, but when it comes to the Baali, [[EveryoneHasStandards most everyone's everyone's]] policy is [[KillEmAll kill on sight.]]
16th Jan '16 3:41:49 AM Boggs
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: I mean, the Giovanni are hated by everyone. But when it comes to the Baali, most everyone's policy is [[KillEmAll kill on sight.]]
16th Jan '16 3:31:23 AM Boggs
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind and don't become a SpannerInTheWorks for the people in charge.
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind and don't become a SpannerInTheWorks [[SpannerInTheWorks spanners in the works]] for the people in charge.
16th Jan '16 3:30:30 AM Boggs
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keeps the Masquerade in mind and doesn't become a SpannerInTheWorks for the people in charge.
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keeps keep the Masquerade in mind and doesn't don't become a SpannerInTheWorks for the people in charge.
16th Jan '16 3:29:28 AM Boggs
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind and don't become a SpannerInTheWorks for the people in charge.
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep keeps the Masquerade in mind and don't doesn't become a SpannerInTheWorks for the people in charge.
16th Jan '16 3:28:13 AM Boggs
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind and don't become a SpannerInWorks for the people in charge.
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind and don't become a SpannerInWorks SpannerInTheWorks for the people in charge.
16th Jan '16 3:27:54 AM Boggs
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind.
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* PragmaticVillainy: At their worst they can be pretty heinous, reprehensible, and sociopathic... and yet, unlike [[CardCarryingVillain the Sabbat]], they never really KickTheDog just for the hell of it. Most everything about the Camarilla comes from someplace cold and unfeeling and logical, and Kindred with a tendency towards StupidEvil are usually offed for being indiscreet if nothing else. The Camarilla roll their eyes at StupidGood Kindred, seeing them as [[WideEyedIdealist wide eyed idealists]] who are naive in a cruel and unforgiving world, but are in comparison much more tolerant of them, so long as the Kindred in question keep the Masquerade in mind.mind and don't become a SpannerInWorks for the people in charge.
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