History Characters / TheWheelOfTimeTheShadowAndDarkfriends

5th Feb '17 10:15:08 PM NOYB
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* TrappedInVillainy: Inverted. He attempts a genuine HeelFaceTurn (after being forced to train Rand by Lanfear) in part because, as he openly admits, the Dark One [[BadBoss does not take betrayals or failure well]], leaving him with little choice but to throw his lot in with the light.

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* TrappedInVillainy: Inverted. He attempts a genuine HeelFaceTurn (after being forced to train Rand by Lanfear) in part because, as he openly admits, the Dark One [[BadBoss does not take betrayals or failure well]], leaving him with little choice but to throw his lot in with the light.Light.
5th Feb '17 10:14:19 PM NOYB
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Most of their names are evocative of demons or monsters from real world mythology. They also qualify as these in-universe, meaning rather nasty things in the Old Tongue (except Asmodean, whose name means musician). [[spoiler:This does not tend to hold true for some of the new bodies of dead Chosen.]]

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Most of their names are evocative of demons or monsters from real world mythology. They also qualify as these in-universe, meaning rather nasty things in the Old Tongue (except Asmodean, whose name means musician)."musician"). [[spoiler:This does not tend to hold true for some of the new bodies of dead Chosen.]]



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: "Asmodean" derives from "Asmodeus", a recurring [[DemonLordsAndArchDevils demon lord]] in Judeo-Christian lore. Note that this is not an example InUniverse; there, his name simply means [[spoiler:musician]].

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: "Asmodean" derives from "Asmodeus", a recurring [[DemonLordsAndArchDevils demon lord]] in Judeo-Christian lore. Note that this is not an example InUniverse; there, his name simply means [[spoiler:musician]].[[spoiler:"musician"]].



* OddNameOut: His name is the only one of the Forsakens' which was not chosen to invoke dread; it simply means [[spoiler:"musician", his initial profession]] and further indicates how he was relatively the TokenGoodTeammate of the bunch.

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* OddNameOut: His name is the only one of the Forsakens' which Forsaken's that was not chosen to invoke dread; it simply means [[spoiler:"musician", his initial profession]] and further indicates how he was relatively the TokenGoodTeammate of the bunch.
5th Feb '17 10:10:05 PM NOYB
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* MindControl: The best of the Forsaken at Compulsion and uses it in various degrees for almost everything. Her execution of Compulsion tends to but anything ''but'' subtle, however. The beautiful men and women in her collection are functionally little more than zombies.

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* MindControl: The best of the Forsaken at Compulsion and uses it in various degrees for almost everything. Her execution of Compulsion tends to but be anything ''but'' subtle, however. The beautiful men and women in her collection are functionally little more than zombies.


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* WouldHurtAChild: According to Rand, she murdered children during the War of Power after enslaving their parents.
5th Feb '17 9:58:00 PM NOYB
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The ''anti-Mat'', he was a historian in the Age of Legends famous for his study of primitive and extinct cultures, but is better remembered as a gambling, womanizing, jack ass. He had major anger management issues that eventually led him to the Shadow in order to dodge a RestrainingBolt against using the power for violence. He ran an intelligence network unmatched by any of the other Chosen except for Moghedien. His most remembered evil deed was raising and organizing breeding camps for humans to be fed to the Trolloc armies. [[spoiler: He is resurrected in a female body part way into the series]].

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The ''anti-Mat'', he was a historian in the Age of Legends famous for his study of primitive and extinct cultures, but is better remembered as a gambling, womanizing, jack ass. He had major anger management issues that eventually led him to the Shadow in order to dodge a RestrainingBolt against using the power for violence. He ran an intelligence network unmatched by any of the other Chosen except for Moghedien. His most remembered evil deed was raising and organizing breeding camps for humans to be fed to the Trolloc armies. [[spoiler: He is resurrected in a female body part way partway into the series]].



* ChildSoldiers: Mesaana educated children to act like this. Even in the present day Mesaana's Children are remembered and feared.

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* ChildSoldiers: Mesaana educated Mesaana-educated children to act like this. Even in the present day Mesaana's Children are remembered and feared.
19th Jan '17 12:58:46 AM DustSnitch
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* ShadowArchetype: [[AllThereInTheManual As the Guide puts it]], "almost" is the story of his life in relation to Lews Therin. He was born shortly after him, almost as old; he was very good looking except for his hooked-nose, almost as handsome; he was almost as strong in the One Power; he was almost as best-selling an author; [[RetCon he was almost as brilliant as general,]] he almost got the girl, etc., etc. His FaceHeelTurn was explicitly prompted when Lews Therin was chosen as the top general of the Light over him, as his BerserkButton is being told he is second to Lews in ''anything''. Now he's transferred that rivalry to Rand. Being slightly inferior to the most BadAss man on the planet means that you are still incredibly BadAss yourself, which makes him a very, very dangerous enemy.

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* ShadowArchetype: [[AllThereInTheManual As the Guide puts it]], "almost" is the story of his life in relation to Lews Therin. He was born shortly after him, almost as old; he was very good looking except for his hooked-nose, almost as handsome; he was almost as strong in the One Power; he was almost as best-selling an author; [[RetCon he was almost as brilliant as general,]] he almost got the girl, etc., etc. His FaceHeelTurn was explicitly prompted when Lews Therin was chosen as the top general of the Light over him, as his BerserkButton is being told he is second to Lews in ''anything''. Now he's transferred that rivalry to Rand. Being slightly inferior to the most BadAss badass man on the planet means that you are still incredibly BadAss badass yourself, which makes him a very, very dangerous enemy.
9th Jan '17 12:10:26 AM Aquillion
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* NotQuiteTheRightThing: Taking in one of the Forsaken, giving him protection, and having him secretly coach you in the One Power are all sketchy areas, and Rand is quite aware of it.
9th Jan '17 12:06:54 AM Aquillion
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* WeHardlyKnewYe: They're all killed off in the same page that they're introduced and are never mentioned again.
8th Jan '17 11:22:53 PM Aquillion
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* TrappedInVillainy: Inverted. He attempts a genuine HeelFaceTurn (after being forced to train Rand by Lanfear) in part because, as he openly admits, the Dark One [[BadBoss does not take betrayals or failure well]], leaving him with little choice but to throw his lot in with the light.
8th Jan '17 11:17:11 PM Aquillion
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* YouHaveFailedMe: A subtle example. [[spoiler: The Dark One simply doesn't reincarnate him after his second death.]]

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* YouHaveFailedMe: A subtle example. [[spoiler: The Dark One simply doesn't reincarnate him after his second death. Part of this might just be because Aginor's talents simply aren't that useful in the Third Age, since Forsaken who failed much more decisively still get revived repeatedly.]]
8th Jan '17 3:54:01 AM Stranrep
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Since being released from the Bore, Demandred has been up to... things. Things the audience was not made privy to. He was first introduced "on-screen" in the sixth book, but his actual plans and activities were deliberately kept secret until TheReveal in the final novel. With that much build-up, fans were hoping for him to make an impact. He did.

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Since being released from the Bore, Demandred has been up to... things. Things the audience was not made privy to. He was first introduced "on-screen" in the sixth book, but his actual plans and activities were deliberately kept secret until TheReveal in the final novel. With that much build-up, fans were hoping for him to make an impact. He did.
[[CurbStompBattle He]] [[NearVillainVictory did.]]
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