History Characters / TheWheelOfTimeTheShadowAndDarkfriends

7th Sep '17 4:47:16 AM Baeraad555
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* VillainousUnderdog: He gradually develops into this, since he [[CantCatchUp doesn't noticeably expand his power base]] from his first appearance in ''The Dragon Reborn'' while Rand improves his position by leaps and bounds in each book. By the time of ''The Crown of Swords'', he's the ruler of a single western kingdom, faced with an enemy who's in control of an Aiel army larger than the one which, in living memory, defeated ''all the western kingdoms at once.'' Oh, and a second army of male channelers. Oh, and ''two'' western kingdoms. At that point, you almost kind of have to admire the guy for [[VillainousValor stubbornly standing his ground]] instead of abandoning Illian and going into hiding like Graendal urges him to do.
20th Aug '17 10:55:41 AM nombretomado
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* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler: BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind [[XMeetsY meets]] MindRape equals AndIMustScream.]] May count as DisproportionateRetribution, since we never really see her do anything that evil, but then again she ''did'' cause the Tower coup (which killed a lot of innocent Aes Sedai and Warders), and it's pretty clear that she would have done the same to [[spoiler:Egwene]] if she could.

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* FateWorseThanDeath: [[spoiler: BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] MindRape equals AndIMustScream.]] May count as DisproportionateRetribution, since we never really see her do anything that evil, but then again she ''did'' cause the Tower coup (which killed a lot of innocent Aes Sedai and Warders), and it's pretty clear that she would have done the same to [[spoiler:Egwene]] if she could.
30th Jul '17 6:13:13 AM Ezaxcks
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* {{Wicked Cultured}}: In spite of being a depraved hedonist, she has rather refined and high-class tastes.
22nd Apr '17 1:07:42 PM Rozalina
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In the previous War Of Power, Lews Therin lead the forces of light supported by a team of lieutenants and trusted advisers. Many died, but others became {{Fallen Hero}}es and joined with The Shadow and The Dark One. These best-and-brightest were called "The Chosen" by the servants of the Shadow, "The Forsaken" by everyone else. There were originally about thirty Forsaken with various talents, ranging from military generals to doctors, scientists, artists, philosophers and so on. The [[ThirteenIsUnlucky thirteen]] most powerful Forsaken were sealed inside Shayol Ghul at the moment when Lews Therin placed the seven Seals on The Dark One. Why they were all there when Lews Therin placed the seals is not known. There they have remained... and with the Seals wearing down, they are starting to break free.

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In the previous War Of Power, Lews Therin lead led the forces of light supported by a team of lieutenants and trusted advisers. Many died, but others became {{Fallen Hero}}es and joined with The Shadow and The Dark One. These best-and-brightest were called "The Chosen" by the servants of the Shadow, "The Forsaken" by everyone else. There were originally about thirty Forsaken with various talents, ranging from military generals to doctors, scientists, artists, philosophers and so on. The [[ThirteenIsUnlucky thirteen]] most powerful Forsaken were sealed inside Shayol Ghul at the moment when Lews Therin placed the seven Seals on The Dark One. Why they were all there when Lews Therin placed the seals is not known. There they have remained... and with the Seals wearing down, they are starting to break free.
22nd Apr '17 12:04:03 AM NSlayton5
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5th Feb '17 10:15:08 PM NOYB
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* TrappedInVillainy: Inverted. He attempts a genuine HeelFaceTurn (after being forced to train Rand by Lanfear) in part because, as he openly admits, the Dark One [[BadBoss does not take betrayals or failure well]], leaving him with little choice but to throw his lot in with the light.

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* TrappedInVillainy: Inverted. He attempts a genuine HeelFaceTurn (after being forced to train Rand by Lanfear) in part because, as he openly admits, the Dark One [[BadBoss does not take betrayals or failure well]], leaving him with little choice but to throw his lot in with the light.Light.
5th Feb '17 10:14:19 PM NOYB
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Most of their names are evocative of demons or monsters from real world mythology. They also qualify as these in-universe, meaning rather nasty things in the Old Tongue (except Asmodean, whose name means musician). [[spoiler:This does not tend to hold true for some of the new bodies of dead Chosen.]]

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Most of their names are evocative of demons or monsters from real world mythology. They also qualify as these in-universe, meaning rather nasty things in the Old Tongue (except Asmodean, whose name means musician)."musician"). [[spoiler:This does not tend to hold true for some of the new bodies of dead Chosen.]]



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: "Asmodean" derives from "Asmodeus", a recurring [[DemonLordsAndArchDevils demon lord]] in Judeo-Christian lore. Note that this is not an example InUniverse; there, his name simply means [[spoiler:musician]].

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: "Asmodean" derives from "Asmodeus", a recurring [[DemonLordsAndArchDevils demon lord]] in Judeo-Christian lore. Note that this is not an example InUniverse; there, his name simply means [[spoiler:musician]].[[spoiler:"musician"]].



* OddNameOut: His name is the only one of the Forsakens' which was not chosen to invoke dread; it simply means [[spoiler:"musician", his initial profession]] and further indicates how he was relatively the TokenGoodTeammate of the bunch.

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* OddNameOut: His name is the only one of the Forsakens' which Forsaken's that was not chosen to invoke dread; it simply means [[spoiler:"musician", his initial profession]] and further indicates how he was relatively the TokenGoodTeammate of the bunch.
5th Feb '17 10:10:05 PM NOYB
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* MindControl: The best of the Forsaken at Compulsion and uses it in various degrees for almost everything. Her execution of Compulsion tends to but anything ''but'' subtle, however. The beautiful men and women in her collection are functionally little more than zombies.

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* MindControl: The best of the Forsaken at Compulsion and uses it in various degrees for almost everything. Her execution of Compulsion tends to but be anything ''but'' subtle, however. The beautiful men and women in her collection are functionally little more than zombies.


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* WouldHurtAChild: According to Rand, she murdered children during the War of Power after enslaving their parents.
5th Feb '17 9:58:00 PM NOYB
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The ''anti-Mat'', he was a historian in the Age of Legends famous for his study of primitive and extinct cultures, but is better remembered as a gambling, womanizing, jack ass. He had major anger management issues that eventually led him to the Shadow in order to dodge a RestrainingBolt against using the power for violence. He ran an intelligence network unmatched by any of the other Chosen except for Moghedien. His most remembered evil deed was raising and organizing breeding camps for humans to be fed to the Trolloc armies. [[spoiler: He is resurrected in a female body part way into the series]].

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The ''anti-Mat'', he was a historian in the Age of Legends famous for his study of primitive and extinct cultures, but is better remembered as a gambling, womanizing, jack ass. He had major anger management issues that eventually led him to the Shadow in order to dodge a RestrainingBolt against using the power for violence. He ran an intelligence network unmatched by any of the other Chosen except for Moghedien. His most remembered evil deed was raising and organizing breeding camps for humans to be fed to the Trolloc armies. [[spoiler: He is resurrected in a female body part way partway into the series]].



* ChildSoldiers: Mesaana educated children to act like this. Even in the present day Mesaana's Children are remembered and feared.

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* ChildSoldiers: Mesaana educated Mesaana-educated children to act like this. Even in the present day Mesaana's Children are remembered and feared.
19th Jan '17 12:58:46 AM DustSnitch
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* ShadowArchetype: [[AllThereInTheManual As the Guide puts it]], "almost" is the story of his life in relation to Lews Therin. He was born shortly after him, almost as old; he was very good looking except for his hooked-nose, almost as handsome; he was almost as strong in the One Power; he was almost as best-selling an author; [[RetCon he was almost as brilliant as general,]] he almost got the girl, etc., etc. His FaceHeelTurn was explicitly prompted when Lews Therin was chosen as the top general of the Light over him, as his BerserkButton is being told he is second to Lews in ''anything''. Now he's transferred that rivalry to Rand. Being slightly inferior to the most BadAss man on the planet means that you are still incredibly BadAss yourself, which makes him a very, very dangerous enemy.

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* ShadowArchetype: [[AllThereInTheManual As the Guide puts it]], "almost" is the story of his life in relation to Lews Therin. He was born shortly after him, almost as old; he was very good looking except for his hooked-nose, almost as handsome; he was almost as strong in the One Power; he was almost as best-selling an author; [[RetCon he was almost as brilliant as general,]] he almost got the girl, etc., etc. His FaceHeelTurn was explicitly prompted when Lews Therin was chosen as the top general of the Light over him, as his BerserkButton is being told he is second to Lews in ''anything''. Now he's transferred that rivalry to Rand. Being slightly inferior to the most BadAss badass man on the planet means that you are still incredibly BadAss badass yourself, which makes him a very, very dangerous enemy.
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