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* AdaptationalJerkass: While he's relatively unchanged for the first ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' game, complete with his overprotective PapaWolf tendencies and WasTooHardOnHer moment with Sebastian afterwards, in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', however, he is a lot more controlling and restrictive towards Ariel in way that also makes him come off as manipulative and strongarming of Sebastian, Sora, Donald, and Goofy into helping him make Ariel rehearse his musical to keep her mind from the human world. Then after his AbusiveParent moment where he destroys the Prince Eric statue, his face remains stern, angry, and unrepentant rather than having the immediate remorse he had in the film.

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* AdaptationalJerkass: While he's relatively unchanged for the first ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' game, complete with his overprotective PapaWolf tendencies and WasTooHardOnHer moment with Sebastian afterwards, in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', however, ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' he is a lot more controlling and restrictive towards Ariel in a way that also makes him come off as manipulative and strongarming of Sebastian, Sora, Donald, and Goofy into helping him make Ariel rehearse his musical to keep her mind from the human world. Then after his AbusiveParent moment where he destroys the Prince Eric statue, his face remains stern, angry, and unrepentant rather than having the immediate remorse he had in the film.
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* AdaptationalJerkass: While he's relatively unchanged for the first ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' game, complete with his overprotective PapaWolf tendencies and WasTooHardOnHer moment with Sebastian afterwards. In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', however, he is a lot more controlling and restrictive towards Ariel in way that also makes him come off as manipulative and strongarming of Sebastian, Sora, Donald, and Goofy into helping him make Ariel rehearse his musical to keep her mind from the human world. Then after his AbusiveParent moment where he destroys the Prince Eric statue, his face remains stern, angry, and unrepentant rather than having the immediate remorse he had in the film.

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* AdaptationalJerkass: While he's relatively unchanged for the first ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' game, complete with his overprotective PapaWolf tendencies and WasTooHardOnHer moment with Sebastian afterwards. In afterwards, in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', however, he is a lot more controlling and restrictive towards Ariel in way that also makes him come off as manipulative and strongarming of Sebastian, Sora, Donald, and Goofy into helping him make Ariel rehearse his musical to keep her mind from the human world. Then after his AbusiveParent moment where he destroys the Prince Eric statue, his face remains stern, angry, and unrepentant rather than having the immediate remorse he had in the film.
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* AdaptationalJerkass: While he's relatively unchanged for the first ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' game, complete with his overprotective PapaWolf tendencies and WasTooHardOnHer moment with Sebastian afterwards. In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', however, he is a lot more controlling and restrictive towards Ariel in way that also makes him come off as manipulative and strongarming of Sebastian, Sora, Donald, and Goofy into helping him make Ariel rehearse his musical to keep her mind from the human world. Then after his AbusiveParent moment where he destroys the Prince Eric statue, his face remains stern, angry, and unrepentant rather than having the immediate remorse he had in the film.
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* AbusiveParent: He becomes this in one of his weaker moments, where he tries to assert authority over Ariel by using violent magic to destroy her collection of human objects while she watches. He clearly feels remorse afterwards, improves upon himself by the end of the movie, and is forgiven, but it was nonetheless an extremely cruel way to treat one's own child.

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* AbusiveParent: Triton is constantly struggling with treading the fine line between parental authority for discipline and protectiveness, and emotional abuse when dealing with his teenage daughter, Ariel. He finally becomes this in one of his weaker moments, where he tries to assert authority over Ariel by using violent magic to destroy her collection of human objects while she watches. He [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone clearly feels remorse afterwards, afterwards]], improves upon himself by the end of the movie, and is forgiven, forgiven by Ariel, but it was nonetheless an extremely cruel way to treat one's own child.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: He misinterprets Triton's innocent belief that Ariel has found a merman boyfriend as him having discovered that she saved Eric, and in his attempt to apologize he ends up just revealing to the truth to the king.

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: He misinterprets Triton's innocent belief that Ariel has found a merman boyfriend as him having discovered that she saved Eric, and in his attempt to apologize he ends up just revealing to the truth to the king.king, which is what sets the entire plot in motion.
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* {{Expy}}: His design is based on [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Poseidon]], complete with a big beard and magic trident.
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** In general, while Triton's initial hatred for humans is mainly bigotry, his fear ''does'' have its merits as humans were responsible for the death of Athena and some would kidnap Ariel for their own selfish reasons. After all, humans aren't perfect in the slightest. He even points out that some humans like to feed on sea creatures for pleasure (as he describes them as spineless, savage harpooning fish-eaters), to which he isn't wrong about, considering the case of Prince Eric's castle chef Louis, who relishes on chopping off sea creatures for food.

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** In general, while Triton's initial hatred for humans is mainly bigotry, his fear ''does'' have its merits as humans were responsible for the death of Athena and some would kidnap Ariel for their own selfish reasons. After all, humans aren't perfect in the slightest. He even points out that some humans like to feed on eat sea creatures for pleasure (as he describes them as spineless, savage harpooning fish-eaters), to which he isn't wrong about, considering the case of Prince Eric's castle chef Louis, who relishes on chopping off sea creatures for food.
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** In general, while Triton's initial hatred for humans is mainly bigotry, his fear ''does'' have its merits as humans were responsible for the death of Athena and some would kidnap Ariel for their own selfish reasons. After all, humans aren't perfect in the slightest.

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** In general, while Triton's initial hatred for humans is mainly bigotry, his fear ''does'' have its merits as humans were responsible for the death of Athena and some would kidnap Ariel for their own selfish reasons. After all, humans aren't perfect in the slightest. He even points out that some humans like to feed on sea creatures for pleasure (as he describes them as spineless, savage harpooning fish-eaters), to which he isn't wrong about, considering the case of Prince Eric's castle chef Louis, who relishes on chopping off sea creatures for food.
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* His ability here is really highlighted in the climax, when Scuttle reveals Ursula's deception and they all realize time is running out. Sebastian knows they've got to get organized or they're done for, and quickly comes up with multiple plans. He tells Flounder to tow Ariel out to the wedding boat, orders Scuttle to do whatever it takes to stop the wedding, then immediately leaves to go get King Triton.

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* ** His ability here is really highlighted in the climax, when Scuttle reveals Ursula's deception and they all realize time is running out. Sebastian knows they've got to get organized or they're done for, and quickly comes up with multiple plans. He tells Flounder to tow Ariel out to the wedding boat, orders Scuttle to do whatever it takes to stop the wedding, then immediately leaves to go get King Triton.
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* His ability here is really highlighted in the climax, when Scuttle reveals Ursula's deception and they all realize time is running out. Sebastian knows they've got to get organized or they're done for, and quickly comes up with multiple plans. He tells Flounder to tow Ariel out to the wedding boat, orders Scuttle to do whatever it takes to stop the wedding, then immediately leaves to go get King Triton.
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* AbsurdlySharpClaws: Sebastian's claws can easily slice through several thick ropes when he releases some barrels for Ariel to grab onto when she's in the water.
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* CharacterDevelopment: King Triton gets the lion's share of development when he realizes being so hard on Ariel just ended up driving her away from him, and when Eric saves his daughter's life from Ursula, it allows him to overcome his xenophobia of humans and realize that it's for the better that he lets Ariel stay with Eric. By the time of the sequel, Triton has become accepting of humans. He's presented as still very wise, though incredibly toned down temper wise. However, his aggressive nature remains in times of crisis.

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* CharacterDevelopment: King Triton gets the lion's share receives a sizable amount of character development when he realizes being so hard on Ariel just ended up driving her away from him, and when Eric saves his daughter's life from Ursula, it allows him to overcome his xenophobia of humans and realize that it's for the better that he lets Ariel stay with Eric. By the time of the sequel, Triton has become accepting of humans. He's presented as still very wise, though incredibly toned down temper wise. However, his aggressive nature remains in times of crisis.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: He misinterprets Triton's innocent belief that Ariel has found a merman boyfriend as him having discovered that she saved Eric, and in his attempt to apologize he ends up just revealing to the truth to the king.
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[[caption-width-right:233:''"I should be writing symphonies. Not tagging along after some headstrong teenager!"'']]

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Horatio Thelonious Ignacious Crustaceous Sebastian Crab, or Sebastian, is a red Jamaican crab and a major character ''The Little Mermaid'' franchise. He is the "distinguished" court composer for King Triton, and is regularly tasked with watching over his daughter, Princess Ariel.

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[[OverlyLongName Horatio Thelonious Ignacious Crustaceous Sebastian Crab, Crab]], or Sebastian, is a red Jamaican crab and a major character ''The Little Mermaid'' franchise. He is the "distinguished" court composer for King Triton, Triton and is regularly tasked with watching over his daughter, Princess Ariel.



* AttackOfThe50FootWhatever: One episode of the series has him wish to be bigger, problem? He doesn't stop growing until he's twice the size of a large vessel, and gets even worse when Ariel uses her wish for him to be [[ExactWords "his old self"]] which makes him giant AND elderly.
* BadlyBatteredBabysitter: Sebastian's part in the movie is a fleshed out version of this plot. The fact that his charge is 16 does not make things any easier.

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* AttackOfThe50FootWhatever: One episode of the series has him his wish to be bigger, what problem? He doesn't stop growing until he's twice the size of a large vessel, and gets even worse when Ariel uses her wish for him to be [[ExactWords "his old self"]] which makes him giant AND elderly.
* BadlyBatteredBabysitter: Sebastian's part in the movie is a fleshed out fleshed-out version of this plot. The fact that his charge is 16 does not make things any easier.

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Berserk Button has to have a minor reason behind it, while Triton gets angry easily.


* BerserkButton: Anything that reminds him of the human world will set off his HairTriggerTemper. At least until the end of the first film, thanks to Eric.



* BigNo: At the beginning of ''Ariel's Beginning'' when his wife, Athena, gets crushed to death by the pirate ship while he's unable to save her.

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* BigNo: At the beginning of ''Ariel's Beginning'' Beginning'', Triton yells "No" when his wife, Athena, gets crushed to death by the pirate ship while he's unable to save her.
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'''Voiced in French by''': Henri Salvador (1990)\\
'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by''': Michael Cruz
'''Voiced in Italian by''': Ronny Grant
'''Voiced in Hebrew by''': Eli Gorenstein

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'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in French by''': Henri Salvador (1990)\\
'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by''': Michael Cruz
'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in Italian by''': Ronny Grant
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'''Voiced in French by''': Jacques Deschamps (1990, TV series), Jean Davy (1998, ''Return to the Sea''), Pierre Dourlens {''Ariel's Beginning'')\\
'''Voiced in Italian by''' Pino Locchi
'''Voiced in Polish by''' WÅ‚odzimierz Bednarski (movies, TV series, 2011 dub), Janusz Nowicki (TV series, 1995 dub)\\
'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by''' Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')\\
'''Voiced in Hebrew by''' Ariel Furman

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'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in French by''': Jacques Deschamps (1990, TV series), Jean Davy (1998, ''Return to the Sea''), Pierre Dourlens {''Ariel's Beginning'')\\
'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in Italian by''' Pino Locchi
'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in Polish by''' WÅ‚odzimierz Bednarski (movies, TV series, 2011 dub), Janusz Nowicki (TV series, 1995 dub)\\
'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by''' Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')\\
'''Voiced ->'''Voiced in Hebrew by''' Ariel Furman
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'''Voiced in Polish by''': WÅ‚odzimierz Bednarski (movies, TV series, 2011 dub), Janusz Nowicki (TV series, 1995 dub)\\
'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by''': Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')\\
'''Voiced in Hebrew by:''' Ariel Furman

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'''Voiced in Polish by''': by''' WÅ‚odzimierz Bednarski (movies, TV series, 2011 dub), Janusz Nowicki (TV series, 1995 dub)\\
'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by''': by''' Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')\\
'''Voiced in Hebrew by:''' by''' Ariel Furman
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'''Voiced in Italian by:''' Pino Locchi

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'''Voiced in Italian by:''' by''' Pino Locchi



'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish''': Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')\\

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'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish''': Spanish by''': Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')\\



'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by:''' Michael Cruz
'''Voiced in Italian by:''' Ronny Grant
'''Voiced in Hebrew by:''' Eli Gorenstein

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'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by:''' by''': Michael Cruz
'''Voiced in Italian by:''' by''': Ronny Grant
'''Voiced in Hebrew by:''' by''': Eli Gorenstein
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'''Voiced in Italian by:''' Pino Locchi


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'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish by:''' Michael Cruz
'''Voiced in Italian by:''' Ronny Grant


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* LargeHam: He LOVES to chew the scenery.
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* IWasQuiteALooker: Triton has by no means aged poorly; even in his middle-aged/elder years, he maintains a broad, muscular physique, and we see in the prequel he was quite handsome.
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* FantasyForbiddingFather: He forbids his daughters from going to the surface, refuses to listen to Ariel when she tries to explain her interest in the human world, and is enraged when he discovers Ariel has not only fallen for a human but has been collecting scavenged human trinkets behind his back - so he destroys her collection.


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* GenerationXerox: The cartoon series features an episode where [[FountainOfYouth he is de-aged physically and mentally back to being a child]] where he displays Ariel's playful, stubborn, curious and compassionate traits. The second movie also shows that, mostly thanks to Morgana threatening Melody's life, Ariel grows into a similarly overprotective mother who forbids Melody entering the sea.
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That is baseless speculation.


* {{Retcon}}: As mentioned, early material clearly had Aquata as the heir to the throne while the third film places her as the middle daughter. Due to Disney's reputation for [[CanonDiscontinuity ignoring]] made-for-video sequels, it's possible that she is still the oldest, although her age is never mentioned in newer material.

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* {{Retcon}}: As mentioned, early material clearly had Aquata as the heir to the throne while the third film places her as the middle daughter. Due to Disney's reputation for [[CanonDiscontinuity ignoring]] made-for-video sequels, it's possible that she is still the oldest, although her age is never mentioned in newer material.
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'''Voiced in Hebrew by:''' Eli Gorenstein
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'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish''': Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning'')

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'''Voiced in Hebrew by:''' Ariel Furman

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Overprotective Dad is now a disambiguation page.


* BoyfriendBlockingDad: [[DoubleSubversion Double subverted]]. When Triton learns that Ariel is in love, he doesn't get angry or threaten harm to the man in question - he's totally enthusiastic and on-board with the idea... until he finds out the individual in question is [[DatingWhatDaddyHates a human rather than a merman.]]



* OverprotectiveDad: [[DoubleSubversion Double subverted]]. When Triton learns that Ariel is in love, he doesn't get angry or threaten harm to the man in question - he's totally enthusiastic and on-board with the idea... until he finds out the individual in question is [[DatingWhatDaddyHates a human rather than a merman.]]

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Revised entry and fixing Example Indentation. Also, Nice Job Breaking It Hero is a story trope.


** Does this again in the second film as he accidentally ruined Melody's birthday cake, which drove an angry Chef Louis to chase him off, humiliating Melody in front of her peers in the process and driving her to run away to the sea following an argument with Ariel. Considering the fact that his antics with Chef Louis have topped things off, Sebastian holds himself responsible for this; even attempting to apologize to Melody before she ran away.

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** Does He does this again in the second film as he accidentally ruined Melody's birthday cake, which drove an angry Chef Louis to chase him off, humiliating Melody in front of her peers in the process and driving her to run away to the sea following an argument with Ariel. Considering the fact that his antics with Chef Louis have topped things off, Sebastian holds himself responsible for this; even attempting to apologize to Melody before she ran away.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Inadvertently sets off the conflict by telling Triton about Ariel swimming up to the surface under pressure. This leads to Triton destroying the grotto, and Ariel becoming devastated, giving Floatsam and Jetsam the perfect opportunity to lure her to Ursula.



* ProperlyParanoid: Sebastian's belief that humans want to eat sea creatures like him is proven ''deadly'' accurate when he stumbles into a kitchen filled with cooking seafood, and where the fanatical chef becomes ''hell-bent'' on making Sebastian part of the menu.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Literally ''all'' of the problems in this film occur because Sebastian ''can't keep his gob shut.'' By blabbing to Triton, Ariel runs off to Ursula, makes the deal, and then the rest of the film occurs. By just ''doing as he was told'' '''''by the Princess of the Kingdom''''', Sebastian could have avoided all the problems.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Literally ''all'' of Inadvertently sets off the problems in this film occur because Sebastian ''can't keep his gob shut.'' By blabbing to Triton, conflict by telling Triton about Ariel runs off swimming up to Ursula, makes the deal, surface under pressure. This leads to Triton destroying the grotto, and then Ariel becoming devastated, giving Floatsam and Jetsam the rest of the film occurs. By just ''doing as he was told'' '''''by the Princess of the Kingdom''''', Sebastian could have avoided all the problems.perfect opportunity to lure her to Ursula.

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That's too harsh. Sebastian blabbed under the belief Triton already knew and was interrogating him. And he felt VERY guilty about the ramifications that followed


* CharacterDevelopment: Sebastian has, perhaps, ''the'' most dynamic character growth in the original movie. He goes from a [[TheComicallySerious pompous]], [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered]] [[DirtyCoward dirty coward]] who just wants to write symphonies, and convince Ariel to act like "all the normal fish" so ''he'' doesn't get in trouble with her father, to a brave and selfless hero who willingly risks his own life ''many'' times to ensure Ariel's happiness. (And keep in mind that Ariel is ''not'' his daughter like she is to Triton, nor his love interest like she is to Eric, nor even really his friend at first like she is to Flounder and Scuttle. Ariel isn't even his favorite student, since her constant no-shows cause him no end of trouble.Not to mention their last interaction had Ariel coldly dismissing Sebastian after he blabbed her secret to her dad. He has no personal stake in making her happy. Yet, Sebastian ''still'' risks it all to help Ariel, just to make her happy.) He also learns to overcome his fear of humans, going from running scared of Chef Louis to confidently knocking the chef out with a loose beam at the end of the film.

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* CharacterDevelopment: Sebastian has, perhaps, ''the'' most dynamic character growth in the original movie. He goes from a [[TheComicallySerious pompous]], [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered]] [[DirtyCoward dirty coward]] who just wants to write symphonies, and convince Ariel to act like "all the normal fish" so ''he'' doesn't get in trouble with her father, to a brave and selfless hero who willingly risks his own life ''many'' times to ensure Ariel's happiness. (And keep in mind that Ariel is ''not'' his daughter like she is to Triton, nor his love interest like she is to Eric, nor even really his friend at first like she is to Flounder and Scuttle. Ariel isn't even his favorite student, since her constant no-shows cause him no end of trouble. Not to mention their last interaction had Ariel coldly dismissing Sebastian after he blabbed her secret to her dad. He has no personal stake in making her happy. Yet, Sebastian ''still'' risks it all to help Ariel, just to make her happy.) He also learns to overcome his fear of humans, going from running scared of Chef Louis to confidently knocking the chef out with a loose beam at the end of the film.



* NeverMyFault: For half of the beginning of the movie, he is convinced that everything he does is justifiable. Being loyal to King Trition, Sebastian believes is doing the right thing by telling him [[LooseLips everything]]! He finally realizes he's wrong when he's forced to admit that living with Triton is making Ariel miserable.
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'''Voiced in Latin American Spanish''': Guillermo Romano (first two movies, TV series), Jorge Lapuente (''Ariel's Beginning)

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