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* EmbarrassingNickname: His name "Craw" comes from nearly choking on a chicken bone that got stuck in his throat. At the time he was furious at Threetrees for giving him such an embarrassing name, but as time went on he became grateful for it.
* FeelingTheirAge: While he's a BadassGrandpa, his age is definitely catching up to him, as he reflects any time he's getting ready to go into battle. His knees in particular give him a lot of trouble.
* FeelingTheirAge: While he's a BadassGrandpa, his age is definitely catching up to him, as he reflects any time he's getting ready to go into battle. His knees in particular give him a lot of trouble.
* HonorBeforeReason: [[spoiler:Even though he doesn't like Black Dow, and he loves Calder like a son, he still chooses to live up to his principles by telling Black Dow that Calder wanted Craw to assassinate him. He does this knowing it'll likely mean Calder's death.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: Craw always tries to do the right thing, no matter how difficult it is or how much he grumbles about it.
* LikeASonToMe: He loves Calder like a son.
* LikeAnOldMarriedCouple: A platonic example. His second, Wonderful, describes their relationship like a married couple that no longer fuck.
* MyMasterRightOrWrong: [[spoiler:He chooses to remain loyal to his chief, Black Dow, even though it means confessing that Calder, who's practically his surrogate son, tried to convince Craw to assassinate Dow. Calder is nearly executed as a result.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: Craw always tries to do the right thing, no matter how difficult it is or how much he grumbles about it.
* LikeASonToMe: He loves Calder like a son.
* LikeAnOldMarriedCouple: A platonic example. His second, Wonderful, describes their relationship like a married couple that no longer fuck.
* MyMasterRightOrWrong: [[spoiler:He chooses to remain loyal to his chief, Black Dow, even though it means confessing that Calder, who's practically his surrogate son, tried to convince Craw to assassinate Dow. Calder is nearly executed as a result.]]
* OldSoldier: He's an old man who's been involved in wars practically his entire life. He's been meaning to retire for a long time but never quite gets around to it.
* ParentalSubstitute: He was practically Calder's second father. [[spoiler:Even after Craw sides with Dow over him, nearly causing Calder's death, Calder doesn't hold a grudge.]]
* TheReliableOne: Craw has a reputation as a "straight edge" due to his commitment to doing the right thing, sticking by the old ways, and standing by his chief and crew. It's the reason why [[spoiler:Black Dow]] chooses him as his second.
* RetiredBadass: Craw's dream is to retire from soldiering and live a quiet life. Unfortunately he can never quite find a time to hang up his sword. [[spoiler:He finally does at the end of ''The Heroes'' only to realize he doesn't want to stop soldiering, and joins up to help Calder in his war against Glama Golden.]]
* ParentalSubstitute: He was practically Calder's second father. [[spoiler:Even after Craw sides with Dow over him, nearly causing Calder's death, Calder doesn't hold a grudge.]]
* TheReliableOne: Craw has a reputation as a "straight edge" due to his commitment to doing the right thing, sticking by the old ways, and standing by his chief and crew. It's the reason why [[spoiler:Black Dow]] chooses him as his second.
* RetiredBadass: Craw's dream is to retire from soldiering and live a quiet life. Unfortunately he can never quite find a time to hang up his sword. [[spoiler:He finally does at the end of ''The Heroes'' only to realize he doesn't want to stop soldiering, and joins up to help Calder in his war against Glama Golden.]]
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* YouRemindMeOfX: Black Dow tells Craw that he reminds him of Threetrees, which Craw is deeply flattered by.
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ActionMom: She has children at home and visits them between jobs.
*DeadpanSnarkerBaldWoman: Wonderful has shaved-stubble hair. She first shaved her head when trouble started up with Bethod's men trying to attack her farm.
* CombatPragmatist: Anyway to win a fight is the right strategy.
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* CombatPragmatist: Anyway to win a fight is the right strategy.
* DeadpanSnarker: Wonderful has a very sarcastic and snide sense of humor.
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* TheLadetteTheLadette: Wonderful is a capable fighter who's described as tough as any man.
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* NumberTwo: She's Craw's second in his Dozen.
* WhenYouComingHomeMom: She doesn't get a chance to visit her husband and kids often because she's usually too busy off fighting. She says they understand it's just who she is. [[spoiler:Except it turns out she's lying, and they packed up and left years ago and she couldn't bear to tell anyone.]]
* WhenYouComingHomeMom: She doesn't get a chance to visit her husband and kids often because she's usually too busy off fighting. She says they understand it's just who she is. [[spoiler:Except it turns out she's lying, and they packed up and left years ago and she couldn't bear to tell anyone.]]
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* BodyguardBetrayal: [[spoiler:He betrays Logen at the end of the original trilogy, and, in ''The Heroes'', is betrayed and killed by Caul Shivers.]]
* CurbStompBattle: [[spoiler:His duel to the death with Calder is painfully one-sided in Black Dow's favor. The only reason Calder survives is because Caul Shivers betrays and kills him in the middle of it.]]
* DuelToTheDeath: He's forced to accept [[spoiler:Calder's]] challenge of a duel to save face. Everyone expects Dow to win due to his fearsome reputation and his opponent's status as a NonActionGuy. [[spoiler:Dow ''would'' have won had Caul Shivers not betrayed him.]]
* FromNobodyToNightmare: Dow reveals he used to be a potter's apprentice before becoming one of the most feared men in the North.
* InTheBack: [[spoiler:He's killed in the middle of his duel with Calder when Caul Shivers attacks him while his back is turned.]]
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* PetTheDog: Has a few notable moments, such as his interactions with West or his words at [[spoiler: Threetrees']] funeral.
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* PetTheDog: Has a few notable moments, such as his interactions with West or his words at [[spoiler: Threetrees']] funeral. In ''The Heroes'' he surprises [[spoiler:Craw]] by allowing him to retire once the war is done.
* TyrantTakesTheHelm: [[spoiler:He usurps Logen as new King of the North at the end of the original trilogy. Surprisingly enough, he's not really any worse than any other ruler.]]
* TheUsurper: [[spoiler:At the end of the original trilogy, while he fails to assassinate Logen, he takes credit for his death and becomes the new King of the North.]]
* TheUsurper: [[spoiler:At the end of the original trilogy, while he fails to assassinate Logen, he takes credit for his death and becomes the new King of the North.]]
* WeUsedToBeFriends: [[spoiler:He still respects the Dogman even years after the two became enemies, following Dow usurping Logen as King of the North. He regrets that they've become enemies and gets pissed off when one of his allies besmirches the Dogman's reputation.]]
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* ConflictingLoyalties: [[spoiler:He has to choose whether to be loyal to his principles in serving his chief, Black Dow, or loyal to Calder, someone he loves like a son, when he tries to convince him to assassinate Dow. In the end he reluctantly chooses his principles.]]
* CoolOldGuy: He's an old man who's also funny, personable, reasonable, and a caring leader.
* FeelingTheirAge: While he's a BadassGrandpa, his age is definitely catching up to him, as he reflects any time he's getting ready to go into battle.
* FriendlyEnemy: With fellow Northman, Hardbread. They're old friends and they genuinely like each other, it's just that every time they meet in ''The Heroes'', they're on opposite sides of a war. [[spoiler:At least until the epilogue where they're on the same side.]]
* CoolOldGuy: He's an old man who's also funny, personable, reasonable, and a caring leader.
* FeelingTheirAge: While he's a BadassGrandpa, his age is definitely catching up to him, as he reflects any time he's getting ready to go into battle.
* FriendlyEnemy: With fellow Northman, Hardbread. They're old friends and they genuinely like each other, it's just that every time they meet in ''The Heroes'', they're on opposite sides of a war. [[spoiler:At least until the epilogue where they're on the same side.]]
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* NumberTwo: He used to be second to Rudd Threetrees. [[spoiler:He later becomes Black Dow's second, but only until the war is over.]]
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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: [[spoiler:After he kills Bethod, Logen becomes the new King of the North. Unfortunately, his rule is short-lived.]]
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* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion. When he becomes the Bloody Nine he doesn't distinguish friend from foe. All that matters is killing.
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* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion. When he becomes the Bloody Nine Bloody-Nine he doesn't distinguish friend from foe. All that matters is killing.
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* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:At the end of ''Red Country'', he realizes that his past as the Bloody Nine will always put his adoptive children at risk, and decides that the best thing he can do for them is leave.]]
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* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:At the end of ''Red Country'', he realizes that his past as the Bloody Nine Bloody-Nine will always put his adoptive children at risk, and decides that the best thing he can do for them is leave.]]
* TheHeart: Despite his incredibly dark and bloody past, Logen adopts this role in Bayaz's group as they make their way to the Edge of the World. While Bayaz and Quai remain distant, Logen tries to inspire camaraderie in the rest of the group. He convinces Ferro to stay and his lessons trigger Jezal's development into a better person.
* PoisonousFriend: [[spoiler:Bethod reveals that it was Logen's bloodlust as the Bloody-Nine that forced Bethod's hand to become king. The times when Bethod tried to smooth things over nonviolently were usually sabotaged by Logen killing important people, making peace impossible.]]
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* WouldHurtAChild: Or, rather, the Bloody-Nine would. During the Battle in the High Places, he kills one of Crummock-i-Phail's young sons.
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* BattleCouple: More like "Battle FriendsWithBenefits," but he and Ferro Maljinn get into a physical relationship on their journey to the Edge of the World, and they frequently face threats together.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Logen is one of the nicest characters in the original trilogy, but he's one of the most feared men in the North for a reason. His Bloody-Nine persona is a dangerous psychotic who's a danger to friend and foe alike.
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* ISeeDeadPeople: Not "dead people" exactly, but he's one of the only people left in the world who can see spirits, creatures that are otherwise invisible to normal folk. It's one of the reasons Bayaz takes Logen with him on his trip to the Edge of the World.
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* FogOfDoom: She summons mists to conceal Bethod's armies.
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* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be the worst man in the North.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion.
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* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be the worst man in the North. By the time of ''Red Country'' he's a nonviolent, non-confrontational coward named Lamb... at least until his children are stolen.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion. When he becomes the Bloody Nine he doesn't distinguish friend from foe. All that matters is killing.
* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:At the end of ''Red Country'', he realizes that his past as the Bloody Nine will always put his adoptive children at risk, and decides that the best thing he can do for them is leave.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion. When he becomes the Bloody Nine he doesn't distinguish friend from foe. All that matters is killing.
* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:At the end of ''Red Country'', he realizes that his past as the Bloody Nine will always put his adoptive children at risk, and decides that the best thing he can do for them is leave.]]
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* CombatPragmatistCombatPragmatist: During a fight, all Logen cares about is surviving, meaning he'll do whatever it takes to win.
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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage.
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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage. In reality, he's not only a very intelligent and philosophical person, he's quite possibly the deadliest fighter in the series.
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* TheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
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* TheDreaded: People in the North are terrified of him. By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
* OutlivingOnesOffspring: His children with his wife, Thelfi, died during a Shanka raid on his village.
* UncertainDoom: The original trilogy ends with him escaping an assassination attempt by leaping from a widow and plunging to the river far below. The book ends on a cliffhanger as to whether he survived. Years later, he's presumed dead, and [[spoiler:Black Dow]] has taken credit for killing him, but considering the body wasn't found and he managed to survive an earlier plunge in the beginning of the very first story, it's possible he survived. [[spoiler:''Red Country'' confirms he's still alive.]]
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: Logen says that you can't truly hate a man without loving him first, and he admits to himself that he did love Bethod before they became bitter enemies.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Calder is deeply in love with his wife, Seff, and he loved and respected his father, whose advice he frequently remembers [[spoiler:long after his death]]. He also appears to have affection for his older brother, Scale, even though he also resents him for his brutish nature and for standing in line for the throne. [[spoiler:However, by the end of ''The Heroes'', he proves his love for him when he refuses to kill and usurp his weakened brother, willingly giving up the throne he always wanted.]]
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Calder is deeply in love with his wife, Seff, cares about his HonoraryUncle, Curnden Craw, and he loved and respected his father, whose advice he frequently remembers [[spoiler:long after his death]]. He also appears to have affection for his older brother, Scale, even though he also resents him for his brutish nature and for standing in line for the throne. [[spoiler:However, by the end of ''The Heroes'', he proves his love for him when he refuses to kill and usurp his weakened brother, willingly giving up the throne he always wanted.]]
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A sorceress from the utmost North, unaffiliated with the Order of the Magi, who serves King Bethod.
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* CompellingVoice: Her power, the Golden Voice, allows her to seduce anyone and control them with her voice. [[spoiler:When the Dogman and Harding Grim try to assassinate her, she uses it to convince Grim to stab the Dogman. They're only saved by Black Dow's arrival.]]
* TheEvilGenius: Though Bethod is a genius when it comes to warfare, she provides the magical genius and skills integral to his war.
* EvilSorceress: A sorceress who uses her magic to help Bethod conquer the North and wage war against the South.
* MakeupIsEvil: Bayaz even mocks her for wearing so much makeup.
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A sorceress from the utmost North, unaffiliated with the Order of the Magi, who serves King Bethod.
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* CompellingVoice: Her power, the Golden Voice, allows her to seduce anyone and control them with her voice. [[spoiler:When the Dogman and Harding Grim try to assassinate her, she uses it to convince Grim to stab the Dogman. They're only saved by Black Dow's arrival.]]
* TheEvilGenius: Though Bethod is a genius when it comes to warfare, she provides the magical genius and skills integral to his war.
* EvilSorceress: A sorceress who uses her magic to help Bethod conquer the North and wage war against the South.
* MakeupIsEvil: Bayaz even mocks her for wearing so much makeup.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Though he doesn't agree with some of Calder's ideas and wishes he was a warrior, Scale really does love his little brother. His first instinct on hearing he was nearly assassinated is to try to kill the man believed to be responsible, even though it would just get them both into trouble.
* FrontlineGeneral: One of the reasons why Scale is so well-liked by his men is because he fights with them in battles. This seems to be a prerequisite for any Northerner who wants respect. [[spoiler:His near death at the hands of Bremer dan Gorst is evidence why this isn't always a good decision.]]
* FrontlineGeneral: One of the reasons why Scale is so well-liked by his men is because he fights with them in battles. This seems to be a prerequisite for any Northerner who wants respect. [[spoiler:His near death at the hands of Bremer dan Gorst is evidence why this isn't always a good decision.]]
* BestServedCold: [[spoiler:After he figures out that his father-in-law, Caul Reachey, was the one behind the assassination attempt on him, he waits until after his son is born before having Reachey poisoned, framing another enemy for the deed.]]
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* ManBehindTheMan: [[spoiler:He ends up as this to Scale after the latter becomes king.]]
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* ManBehindTheMan: TheManBehindTheMan: [[spoiler:He ends up as this to Scale after the latter becomes king.]]
* NoRespectGuy: Calder is a very competent schemer and actually raises some decent points about why Black Dow should sue for peace, but his lack of bravery or combat experience means everyone just thinks of Calder as a cowardly weakling not worth listening to.
* OvershadowedByAwesome: Calder's own positive, scheming qualities are overshadowed by his older brother's strength and martial prowess.
* OvershadowedByAwesome: Calder's own positive, scheming qualities are overshadowed by his older brother's strength and martial prowess.
* PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Bayaz plans on using him as one after he becomes King of the Northmen at the end of ''The Heroes''. Instead, Calder decides to pass over the crown to Scale and becomes it's implied Scale becomes one to Calder and, through him, Bayaz.]]
* ScrewThisImOutOfHere: Scale and Calder flee after [[spoiler:Logen kills Bethod. They later return, having teamed up with Black Dow for one last chance at Logen.]]
* SiblingYinYang: Scale is an unintelligent brute who prefers to settle his problems through violence. Calder is a scheming snake who is terrified of the mere thought of fighting.
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* TheUnfavorite: Calder believes Scale was favored more by his father than him.
* WellDoneSonGuy: Calder's narration reveals he really wanted his father's approval. In fact, one of the reasons why he killed [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] was a failed attempt to gain his dad's respect.
* WouldHurtAChild: Orders the death of a kid who was involved in an assassination attempt on him. Notably, the kid didn't actually try to kill him, he just minded the others' horses, and while Calder recognizes there's probably nothing to gain from the act, he orders it anyway out of wounded pride.
* WellDoneSonGuy: Calder's narration reveals he really wanted his father's approval. In fact, one of the reasons why he killed [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] was a failed attempt to gain his dad's respect.
* WouldHurtAChild: Orders the death of a kid who was involved in an assassination attempt on him. Notably, the kid didn't actually try to kill him, he just minded the others' horses, and while Calder recognizes there's probably nothing to gain from the act, he orders it anyway out of wounded pride.
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* PramgaticVillainy: While Bethod was not opposed to murder, he also saw the power in mercy. When Calder murdered [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] to make himself appear tough, Bethod merely saw the display as wasting an asset. Afterwards he cautioned Calder to appraise a thing's value before destroying it instead of smashing a thing because he can.
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* PramgaticVillainy: PragmaticVillainy: While Bethod was not opposed to murder, he also saw the power in mercy. When Calder murdered [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] to make himself appear tough, Bethod merely saw the display as wasting an asset. Afterwards he cautioned Calder to appraise a thing's value before destroying it instead of smashing a thing because he can.
* BadDreams: Ever since he murdered [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]], he's had nightmares of the event, regretting his decision to kill a good person just to make himself appear strong.
* DeadpanSnarker: His contempt for his fellow Northerners mentality combined with his quick wit leads to Calder getting some great zingers. Even some of his enemies can't help but laugh at them.
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Calder is deeply in love with his wife, Seff, and he loved and respected his father, whose advice he frequently remembers [[spoiler:long after his death]]. He also appears to have affection for his older brother, Scale, even though he also resents him for his brutish nature and for standing in line for the throne. [[spoiler:However, by the end of ''The Heroes'', he proves his love for him when he refuses to kill and usurp his weakened brother, willingly giving up the throne he always wanted.]]
* EvilIsPetty: Even after remembering his father's words that mercy can be power, and reflecting on what a mistake it was to execute [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] to make himself seem strong, he still decides to order a kid who played a small role in an assassination attempt on him killed because of some minor pain he got as a result.
* TheEvilPrince: He's Bethod's second son, a scheming snake of a man, and is deeply resentful of Scale, a brute, being next in line for the throne even though he views himself as more deserving. [[spoiler:Subverted when he willingly gives up a chance at the throne rather than murder his brother.]]
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: It seems that no one in the North, other than his wife and brother, respects him, because his cowardly, scheming ways are completely antithetical to the ProudWarriorRaceGuy mindset of most Northerners.
* HappilyMarried: Calder and his wife, Seff, are completely head over heels in love with each other.
* EvilIsPetty: Even after remembering his father's words that mercy can be power, and reflecting on what a mistake it was to execute [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] to make himself seem strong, he still decides to order a kid who played a small role in an assassination attempt on him killed because of some minor pain he got as a result.
* TheEvilPrince: He's Bethod's second son, a scheming snake of a man, and is deeply resentful of Scale, a brute, being next in line for the throne even though he views himself as more deserving. [[spoiler:Subverted when he willingly gives up a chance at the throne rather than murder his brother.]]
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: It seems that no one in the North, other than his wife and brother, respects him, because his cowardly, scheming ways are completely antithetical to the ProudWarriorRaceGuy mindset of most Northerners.
* HappilyMarried: Calder and his wife, Seff, are completely head over heels in love with each other.
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* IHaveYourWife: Black Dow is holding Calder's wife, Seff, hostage to ensure Calder--as well as Seff's father--don't try to betray him.
* LikeFatherLikeSon: Part of his bitterness over not being heir to the throne is that Calder believes he's more like his father than Scale is. Whether that's completely true is up for debate, but he's certainly as cunning and ruthless as his father.
* ManBehindTheMan:[[spoiler:Ends [[spoiler:He ends up as this to Scale.Scale after the latter becomes king.]]
* LikeFatherLikeSon: Part of his bitterness over not being heir to the throne is that Calder believes he's more like his father than Scale is. Whether that's completely true is up for debate, but he's certainly as cunning and ruthless as his father.
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* ShutUpHannibal / ShutUpKirk: Depending on your perspective, delivers a pretty awesome one to [[spoiler:Black Dow, so much so that many of the people there to watch Dow butcher him start laughing.]]
* SmugSmiler: Wears his smirk like armor.
* SmugSnake: Zig-zagged throughout ''The Heroes''. He repeatedly schemes himself into a corner and wriggles out in unexpected ways, until [[spoiler:Bayaz finally traps him. And then he escapes ''that'' through [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming brotherly love.]]]]
* SmugSmiler: Wears his smirk like armor.
* SmugSnake: Zig-zagged throughout ''The Heroes''. He repeatedly schemes himself into a corner and wriggles out in unexpected ways, until [[spoiler:Bayaz finally traps him. And then he escapes ''that'' through [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming brotherly love.]]]]
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* ShutUpHannibal / ShutUpKirk: Depending on your perspective, delivers a pretty awesome one to [[spoiler:Black Dow, so much so RejectedApology: [[spoiler:He tells the Dogman that many of he hasn't gone a day without regretting ordering Forley the people there Weakest's execution. The Dogman responds by threatening to watch Dow butcher murder him start laughing.if he ever comes into the Dogman's territory.]]
* ShutUpHannibal[=/=]ShutUpKirk: Depending on your perspective, delivers a pretty awesome one to [[spoiler:Black Dow, so much so that many of the people there to watch Dow butcher him start laughing.]]
* SmugSmiler:Wears His arrogant smirk is noted to be one of his most defining characteristics. His [=POV=] shows that it's a defense mechanism, and he tries to wear that smirk like armor.
* SmugSnake:Zig-zagged In the original trilogy he certainly fits the mold as a scheming, ambitious, arrogant man. However, it becomes zig-zagged throughout ''The Heroes''. He Calder repeatedly schemes himself into a corner and wriggles out in unexpected ways, until [[spoiler:Bayaz finally traps him. And and displays far more charismatic and humanizing qualities than he previously did. [[spoiler:He reverts to his arrogant snake personality when it appears he'll be ruler of the North, but then Bayaz puts him in his place by forcing Calder to be his puppet. Then he escapes ''that'' through [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming brotherly love.]]]]
* ShutUpHannibal[=/=]ShutUpKirk: Depending on your perspective, delivers a pretty awesome one to [[spoiler:Black Dow, so much so that many of the people there to watch Dow butcher him start laughing.]]
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* AwesomeButImpractical: he wears a horned helmet into battle. [[spoiler: in their fight, Gorst grabs a hold of one of the horns and hammers its impracticality into Scale's head.Literally.]]
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* AnArmAndALeg: [[spoiler:He loses a hand to Bremer dan Gorst in their duel.]]
* AwesomeButImpractical: he wears a horned helmet into battle. [[spoiler:in In their fight, Gorst grabs a hold of one of the horns and hammers its impracticality into Scale's head.head. Literally.]] ]]
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* DumbMuscle: Played so very straight. He's brawny, mean, and prefers to solve his problems through violence, but he's not intelligent, especially when compared to his more calculating little brother.
* EnemyMine: [[spoiler:He and Calder team up with Black Dow to make one last attempt on Logen's life in ''Last Argument of Kings''. They fail, and afterwards both end up subservient to Black Dow, who surpasses them as ruler.]]
* HotBlooded: Scale is a very passionate individual, and he's quick to anger and action without cooler heads to reign him in.
* EnemyMine: [[spoiler:He and Calder team up with Black Dow to make one last attempt on Logen's life in ''Last Argument of Kings''. They fail, and afterwards both end up subservient to Black Dow, who surpasses them as ruler.]]
* HotBlooded: Scale is a very passionate individual, and he's quick to anger and action without cooler heads to reign him in.
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* RedOniBlueOni: Red to Calder's blue.
* PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Implied to end up as this, with Calder directing his every move.]]
* YouShallNotPass: Does this at the old bridge. [[spoiler:It doesn't work.]]
* PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Implied to end up as this, with Calder directing his every move.]]
* YouShallNotPass: Does this at the old bridge. [[spoiler:It doesn't work.]]
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* RedOniBlueOni: The impulsive, violent Red to Calder's blue.
scheming, cowardly Blue.
*PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Implied to end up as this, with ScrewThisImOutOfHere: Scale and Calder directing his every move.flee after [[spoiler:Logen kills Bethod. They later return, having teamed up with Black Dow for one last chance at Logen.]]
* SiblingYinYang: Scale is an unintelligent brute who prefers to settle his problems through violence. Calder is a scheming snake who is terrified of the mere thought of fighting.
* PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Even though Calder ultimately decides he loves his brother too much to assassinate and usurp him, the end of ''The Heroes'' implies that Scale is more of a puppet that Calder rules through.]]
* WarriorPrince: He's heir to the Northern throne and a skilled fighter who's earned the admiration and respect of his men through battle.
* YouShallNotPass: Does this at the old bridge.[[spoiler:It [[spoiler:Thanks to Bremer dan Gorst, it doesn't work.work. He is revealed to have survived though.]]
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* SiblingYinYang: Scale is an unintelligent brute who prefers to settle his problems through violence. Calder is a scheming snake who is terrified of the mere thought of fighting.
* PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Even though Calder ultimately decides he loves his brother too much to assassinate and usurp him, the end of ''The Heroes'' implies that Scale is more of a puppet that Calder rules through.]]
* WarriorPrince: He's heir to the Northern throne and a skilled fighter who's earned the admiration and respect of his men through battle.
* YouShallNotPass: Does this at the old bridge.
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Bethod's ''younger'' son, a charmer and schemer among the straightforward warriors of the North. Introduced in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw''.
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Bethod's ''younger'' son, a charmer and schemer among the straightforward warriors of the North. Introduced in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw''.''Literature/TheFirstLaw'', he becomes a [=POV=] character in ''Literature/TheHeroes''.
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* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With his wife Sef, and occasionally comes through in interactions with his older brother [[TheBrute Scale]]. In the end, [[spoiler:played straight as he gives Scale rulership of the North.]]
* BlueOniRedOni: With Scale. Calder's blue.
* BlueOniRedOni: With Scale. Calder's blue.
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* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With his wife Sef, and occasionally comes through in interactions with his older brother [[TheBrute Scale]]. In the end, [[spoiler:played straight as he gives loves Scale too much to assassinate and usurp him, instead giving Scale rulership of the North.]]
* BlueOniRedOni: With Scale. Calder'sblue.the scheming blue, to his brother's impulsive, violent red.
* BlueOniRedOni: With Scale. Calder's
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* TheChessmaster: [[spoiler: By the end of ''The Heroes''.]]
* CurbStompBattle [[spoiler:Dow doesn't even break a sweat against him.]]
* DirtyCoward: By his own admission.
* CurbStompBattle [[spoiler:Dow doesn't even break a sweat against him.]]
* DirtyCoward: By his own admission.
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* TheChessmaster: [[spoiler: By the end He spends most of ''The Heroes''.Heroes'' trying to scheme and manipulate his way into gaining control of the North from [[spoiler:Black Dow. By the end, his plans bare fruit, though only after one incredibly lucky break saves his life.]]
* CurbStompBattle[[spoiler:Dow [[spoiler:Though Calder challenges Dow to a duel to the death, it's only to buy himself more time, as he doesn't even break believe he has a sweat chance against him. Sure enough, he's right, and Black Dow spends their "duel" beating the living crap out of him.]]
* DirtyCoward: By his ownadmission.admission, Calder takes every opportunity he can to avoid fighting, especially in battles. [[spoiler:When he finds out his brother needs him and his men as a reserve, Calder is too cowardly to help, and is horrified when it seemingly leads to Scale's death.]]
* CurbStompBattle
* DirtyCoward: By his own
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* PerfectlyArrangedMarriage: At first he was offended that his father forced him to marry a woman he considered unattractive. After they married, however, Calder grew to truly care for her, to the point that he's so in love with her, he's almost completely sworn off other women... almost.
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* TheStrategist: He unified the North mostly by defeating all his enemies in battle, something he was very good at.
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* PramgaticVillainy: While Bethod was not opposed to murder, he also saw the power in mercy. When Calder murdered [[spoiler:Forley the Weakest]] to make himself appear tough, Bethod merely saw the display as wasting an asset. Afterwards he cautioned Calder to appraise a thing's value before destroying it instead of smashing a thing because he can.
* RepressiveButEfficient: Stories following his death say Bethod was the evilest bastard who ever set foot in the North, but that's only because people like simple stories of good and evil. Though he was a conqueror, Craw mentions how people don't remember the good Bethod did for the North, like building infrastructure, creating great walls, roads and bridges, and stopping the constant warring between the clans--albeit by waging war on the South.
* TheStrategist: He unified the North mostly by defeating all his enemies in battle, something he was very good at. Bethod is wildly regarded to be one of the greatest military minds alive, and a severe threat to the Union.
* TragicVillain: [[spoiler:The reason Bethod said he had to conquer the North in the first place was because Logen's psychotic episodes as the Bloody-Nine caused so much bloodshed against Bethod's wishes, that he was essentially backed into a corner and ''had'' to start a war.]]
* RepressiveButEfficient: Stories following his death say Bethod was the evilest bastard who ever set foot in the North, but that's only because people like simple stories of good and evil. Though he was a conqueror, Craw mentions how people don't remember the good Bethod did for the North, like building infrastructure, creating great walls, roads and bridges, and stopping the constant warring between the clans--albeit by waging war on the South.
* TheStrategist: He unified the North mostly by defeating all his enemies in battle, something he was very good at. Bethod is wildly regarded to be one of the greatest military minds alive, and a severe threat to the Union.
* TragicVillain: [[spoiler:The reason Bethod said he had to conquer the North in the first place was because Logen's psychotic episodes as the Bloody-Nine caused so much bloodshed against Bethod's wishes, that he was essentially backed into a corner and ''had'' to start a war.]]
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: One interpretation of his actions in conquering the north.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: One interpretation of his actions in conquering the north.
north. He started off by defeating the local clans to stop the bigger ones from squeezing his own. His success grew to the point where he defeated and united almost all the clans, and started to focus on infrastructure to improve the North. His war against the Union is partly to gain territory, but also to strengthen his hold over the North by setting his new subjects against a common enemy.
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!!Other Northmen
[[folder:Caul Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
[[folder:Caul Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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[[folder:Caul Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
[[folder:Curnden Craw]]
!!Curnden Craw
-->''"Those are the times."''
Leader of a crew of Named Men, known to all as a real straight edge.
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* AscendedExtra: Had a supporting role in the original trilogy before becoming a main character in ''Best Served Cold''.
* AxCrazy: [[spoiler: After his FaceHeelTurn.]]
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: From a well-intentioned man who was victimized by the Bloody Nine to an amoral barbarian who is a cut-price Bloody Nine.]]
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
* AxCrazy: [[spoiler: After his FaceHeelTurn.]]
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: From a well-intentioned man who was victimized by the Bloody Nine to an amoral barbarian who is a cut-price Bloody Nine.]]
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
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* AscendedExtra: Had a supporting role in AFatherToHisMen: Craw cares about every member of his Dozen. He does his best to keep them alive and if he fails, he says the original trilogy before becoming words over their graves.
* BadassGrandpa: He's getting old and the years are catching up to him, but he's still amain character in ''Best Served Cold''.
good fighter.
*AxCrazy: [[spoiler: After CatchPhrase: "Those are the times."
* NotQuiteTheRightThing: How he views hisFaceHeelTurn.SadisticChoice.
* SadisticChoice: Faced with one when [[spoiler:his old friend and former chief's son Calder attempts to turn him against his new chief.]]
*BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: From a well-intentioned man who was victimized by the Bloody Nine to an amoral barbarian who is a cut-price Bloody Nine.]]
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords:UndyingLoyalty: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leavingfamed for it among the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's getting old and the years are catching up to him, but he's still a
*
* NotQuiteTheRightThing: How he views his
* SadisticChoice: Faced with one when [[spoiler:his old friend and former chief's son Calder attempts to turn him against his new chief.]]
*
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords:
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
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!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
!!Wonderful
Craw's second-in-command.
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* {{Acrofatic}}: Despite his considerable girth, he's a capable fighter.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless and cunning.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless and cunning.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
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* {{Acrofatic}}: Despite his considerable girth, he's ActionGirl: She's one of the only women seen fighting along with the men in the North.
* CombatPragmatist
* DeadpanSnarker
* HappilyMarried: Has acapable fighter.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthlesshusband and cunning.kids back at home, whom she visits between jobs. [[spoiler:They packed up and left years ago, and she couldn't bear to tell anyone.]]
*BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
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*BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants TheLancer: To Craw. [[spoiler:Later to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but Dow, when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one she takes command of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.Carls.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
* CombatPragmatist
* DeadpanSnarker
* HappilyMarried: Has a
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless
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*
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
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!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders in their own right with a claim to the North. Consists of [[DumbMuscle Scale]] (see above), [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Glama Golden]], [[TheStoic Cairm Ironhead]], [[CoolOldGuy Caul Reachey]], and [[YesMan Brodd Tenways.]]
!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders in their own right with a claim to the North. Consists of [[DumbMuscle Scale]] (see above), [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Glama Golden]], [[TheStoic Cairm Ironhead]], [[CoolOldGuy Caul Reachey]], and [[YesMan Brodd Tenways.]]
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!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders
!!Whirrun of Bligh
A hero from a valley in
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* {{Gonk}}: Brodd Tenways, "ugly as incest."
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* TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
* QuirkyMinibossSquad: for Dow.
* TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
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* {{Gonk}}: Brodd Tenways, "ugly {{BFS}}: The Father of Swords, an impossibly large two-hander.
* BunnyEarsLawyer: People put up with his gonzo personality because he's such a good fighter.
* BoisterousBruiser: He's usually chipper, even during war, partly because he [[ForeseeingMyDeath knows when and how he'll die]].
* CharacterDevelopment: In "The Fool Jobs," a story concerning Craw's crew several years before ''The Heroes'', Whirrun is new to the band, so he's detached from his comrades and rather reticent. By the time of ''The Heroes'', he's an old hand with the group won't shut up about whatever is on his mind.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Acts like a weird goofball most of the time.
* FamedInStory: Other Northmen spend the time between battles talking about his ridiculous list of accomplishments.
* ForeseeingMyDeath: He has no fear because the witch Shoglig told him to the day and manner of his death. He often gloats that today is not the day of his prophesied death, so he is sure to overcome his enemies. [[spoiler:Subverted when he's mortally wounded by a random spear. As he lay dying, he's not too happy to realize that Shoglig had no idea what she'd been talking about all along]].
* ImplausibleFencingPowers: Whirrun can somehow use the impractically large Father of Swords to deadly effect. Bremer dan Gorst has never seen such swordsmanship.
* MasterSwordsman: His swordsmanship skills are legendary. [[spoiler: Gorst, a MasterSwordsman himself, regards him asincest."
a WorthyOpponent when they meet on the battlefield.]]
*QuirkyMinibossSquad: for Dow.
NonIndicativeName: He's never even been to Bligh. That's just the northernmost place that anyone locally has ever heard of, so he's assumed to be from around there.
*TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
WalkingShirtlessScene: Has less clothes on every time he fights. [[spoiler: This ultimately gets him killed.]]
* BunnyEarsLawyer: People put up with his gonzo personality because he's such a good fighter.
* BoisterousBruiser: He's usually chipper, even during war, partly because he [[ForeseeingMyDeath knows when and how he'll die]].
* CharacterDevelopment: In "The Fool Jobs," a story concerning Craw's crew several years before ''The Heroes'', Whirrun is new to the band, so he's detached from his comrades and rather reticent. By the time of ''The Heroes'', he's an old hand with the group won't shut up about whatever is on his mind.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Acts like a weird goofball most of the time.
* FamedInStory: Other Northmen spend the time between battles talking about his ridiculous list of accomplishments.
* ForeseeingMyDeath: He has no fear because the witch Shoglig told him to the day and manner of his death. He often gloats that today is not the day of his prophesied death, so he is sure to overcome his enemies. [[spoiler:Subverted when he's mortally wounded by a random spear. As he lay dying, he's not too happy to realize that Shoglig had no idea what she'd been talking about all along]].
* ImplausibleFencingPowers: Whirrun can somehow use the impractically large Father of Swords to deadly effect. Bremer dan Gorst has never seen such swordsmanship.
* MasterSwordsman: His swordsmanship skills are legendary. [[spoiler: Gorst, a MasterSwordsman himself, regards him as
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A towering savage who brings his Northmen to Dow's cause.
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* DirtyCoward: Deconstructed. Beck abandons his comrades and hides during a battle, but it's part of the deconstruction of warfare. Who ''would'' want to participate in such an atrocious waste of human life?
* DramaticIrony: [[spoiler:Beck becomes a Named Man, doing so by hiding in a pile of corpses and getting covered in blood, so that his comrades believe he'd fought through hell to survive.]]
* {{Jerkass}}: Well, he ''is'' seventeen.
** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Of course, throughout the novel there are obvious signs that Beck cares, and that much of his jerkish behaviour is overcompensating. [[spoiler:And while a good part of his aversion to war is (arguably sensible) cowardice, much more of it has to do with the fact that he's just not a killer, and after his first taste of battle, he doesn't want to be.]]
* MommasBoy: He was raised by his mother, but abandons her and his siblings to become a man. When the realities of being a warrior dawn on him, he starts thinking a lot about his mother. [[spoiler:He returns to her in the end.]]
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Kills a comrade after spending most of a battle hiding. When the northman veterans give him a name, he tries to correct them, but he's too exhausted and traumatized to do so. At the end of the novel, he confesses this to Craw hoping to be punished, and when Craw simply says he's seen and heard stories like that dozens of times, he only feels worse.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: [[spoiler:At the end of the battle, having seen enough of his father's lifestyle.]]
* SmallNameBigEgo: His ''father'' was Shama Heartless.
* TookALevelInKindness: One of the ''very'' few in the First Law Universe. [[spoiler:He goes from being a selfish, vain, jerkass of a teenager who dreams of being a butcher on the battlefield to a humble, caring man content to live the rest of his life on a farm and forget about the war.]]
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!!Other Northmen
[[folder:Caul Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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* AscendedExtra: Had a supporting role in the original trilogy before becoming a main character in ''Best Served Cold''.
* AxCrazy: [[spoiler: After his FaceHeelTurn.]]
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: From a well-intentioned man who was victimized by the Bloody Nine to an amoral barbarian who is a cut-price Bloody Nine.]]
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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* {{Acrofatic}}: Despite his considerable girth, he's a capable fighter.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless and cunning.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
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[[folder:Dow's War Chiefs]]
!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders in their own right with a claim to the North. Consists of [[DumbMuscle Scale]] (see above), [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Glama Golden]], [[TheStoic Cairm Ironhead]], [[CoolOldGuy Caul Reachey]], and [[YesMan Brodd Tenways.]]
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* {{Gonk}}: Brodd Tenways, "ugly as incest."
* QuirkyMinibossSquad: for Dow.
* TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
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[[folder:Stranger-Come-Knocking]]
!!Stranger-Come-Knocking
A towering savage who brings his Northmen to Dow's cause.
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* DramaticIrony: [[spoiler:Beck becomes a Named Man, doing so by hiding in a pile of corpses and getting covered in blood, so that his comrades believe he'd fought through hell to survive.]]
* {{Jerkass}}: Well, he ''is'' seventeen.
** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Of course, throughout the novel there are obvious signs that Beck cares, and that much of his jerkish behaviour is overcompensating. [[spoiler:And while a good part of his aversion to war is (arguably sensible) cowardice, much more of it has to do with the fact that he's just not a killer, and after his first taste of battle, he doesn't want to be.]]
* MommasBoy: He was raised by his mother, but abandons her and his siblings to become a man. When the realities of being a warrior dawn on him, he starts thinking a lot about his mother. [[spoiler:He returns to her in the end.]]
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Kills a comrade after spending most of a battle hiding. When the northman veterans give him a name, he tries to correct them, but he's too exhausted and traumatized to do so. At the end of the novel, he confesses this to Craw hoping to be punished, and when Craw simply says he's seen and heard stories like that dozens of times, he only feels worse.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: [[spoiler:At the end of the battle, having seen enough of his father's lifestyle.]]
* SmallNameBigEgo: His ''father'' was Shama Heartless.
* TookALevelInKindness: One of the ''very'' few in the First Law Universe. [[spoiler:He goes from being a selfish, vain, jerkass of a teenager who dreams of being a butcher on the battlefield to a humble, caring man content to live the rest of his life on a farm and forget about the war.]]
[[/folder]]
!!Other Northmen
[[folder:Caul Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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* AscendedExtra: Had a supporting role in the original trilogy before becoming a main character in ''Best Served Cold''.
* AxCrazy: [[spoiler: After his FaceHeelTurn.]]
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: From a well-intentioned man who was victimized by the Bloody Nine to an amoral barbarian who is a cut-price Bloody Nine.]]
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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* {{Acrofatic}}: Despite his considerable girth, he's a capable fighter.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless and cunning.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
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[[folder:Dow's War Chiefs]]
!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders in their own right with a claim to the North. Consists of [[DumbMuscle Scale]] (see above), [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Glama Golden]], [[TheStoic Cairm Ironhead]], [[CoolOldGuy Caul Reachey]], and [[YesMan Brodd Tenways.]]
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* {{Gonk}}: Brodd Tenways, "ugly as incest."
* QuirkyMinibossSquad: for Dow.
* TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Stranger-Come-Knocking]]
!!Stranger-Come-Knocking
A towering savage who brings his Northmen to Dow's cause.
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An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
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An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature. [[spoiler:By the time of ''Literature/RedCountry'' he goes by the name Lamb.]]
* PapaWolf: [[spoiler:In ''Literature/RedCountry'', he's adopted three kids: Shy South (who's a grown woman by the time of the story), Ro and Pit. When Pit and Ro are kidnapped, Logen brings his Bloody-Nine persona out of retirement to rip apart anyone who stands between him and his missing kids.]]
* TheSoCalledCoward: As [[spoiler:Lamb]] he becomes a dark take on this. [[spoiler: He puts on a cowardly, non-confrontational personality, because if he engages in combat, it tends to bring out a [[SuperpoweredEvilSide not so nice side of his personality]]. His adoptive daughter, Shy, not realizing the truth, thinks of him as a coward as a result and is horrified when she finds out differently.]]
* TwoAliasesOneCharacter: In ''Literature/RedCountry'', he's [[spoiler: Lamb]]. While the book can be enjoyed without knowing this, its a LateArrivalSpoiler that is important to understanding his character.
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!Bethod's Line
[[folder:Bethod]]
[[folder:Bethod]]
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!!Bethod's Court
[[folder:Fenris the Feared]]
!!Fenris the Feared
-->''"With this hand I tore down the statues of Aulcus. Now I kill little men, in little wars."''
Bethod's champion, an unstoppable giant.
[[folder:Fenris the Feared]]
!!Fenris the Feared
-->''"With this hand I tore down the statues of Aulcus. Now I kill little men, in little wars."''
Bethod's champion, an unstoppable giant.
to:
[[folder:Fenris the Feared]]
!!Fenris the Feared
-->''"With this hand I tore down the statues of Aulcus. Now I kill little men, in little wars.
!!Prince Scale
-->'''Bayaz:''' ''"Brave as a bull, strong as a bull, thick as a bull's arse."''
Bethod's
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* AchillesHeel: The entire left side of his body is covered in blue writing that gives the left side of his body a HealingFactor which makes him impervious to harm. Meanwhile, he wears impenetrable armor over his right side. [[spoiler:Logen kills him by stabbing his sword into his left side and pushes it further and further in until it starts stabbing the organs on his right.]]
* TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
* TheChampion: He serves as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
* HalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invoked with his armor and tattoos.
* TheJuggernaut: He's completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his body is covered with magic runes in the language of demons that make him impervious to any harm.
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the Old Empire are true.
* TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
* TheChampion: He serves as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
* HalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invoked with his armor and tattoos.
* TheJuggernaut: He's completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his body is covered with magic runes in the language of demons that make him impervious to any harm.
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the Old Empire are true.
to:
* AchillesHeel: The entire left side of his body is covered in blue writing that gives the left side of his body a HealingFactor which makes him impervious to harm. Meanwhile, AwesomeButImpractical: he wears impenetrable armor over his right side. [[spoiler:Logen kills him by stabbing his sword a horned helmet into battle. [[spoiler: in their fight, Gorst grabs a hold of one of the horns and hammers its impracticality into Scale's head.Literally.]]
* BigBrotherInstinct: In spite of having nothing in common with hisleft side witty, wimpy half-brother Calder, he loves him and pushes it further protects him from his own sharp tongue.
* BigBrotherMentor: Tries to be this to Calder, but Calder's twice as smart as he is. His presence does dissuade people from just killing Calder, though.
* TheBrute: Not a bad guy, really, but only understands solving things through violence.
* DualWielding: Sword andfurther in until it starts stabbing mace combo.
* DumbMuscle: Played so very straight.
* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler:Loses his hand and is captured by theorgans on his right.Union, but Bayaz returns him to Calder at the end.]]
*TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks RedOniBlueOni: Red to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
Calder's blue.
*TheChampion: He serves PuppetKing: [[spoiler:Implied to end up as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
* HalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invokedthis, with Calder directing his armor and tattoos.
* TheJuggernaut: He's completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.every move.]]
*NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his body is covered with magic runes inYouShallNotPass: Does this at the language of demons that make him impervious to any harm.
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the Old Empire are true.
old bridge. [[spoiler:It doesn't work.]]
* BigBrotherInstinct: In spite of having nothing in common with his
* BigBrotherMentor: Tries to be this to Calder, but Calder's twice as smart as he is. His presence does dissuade people from just killing Calder, though.
* TheBrute: Not a bad guy, really, but only understands solving things through violence.
* DualWielding: Sword and
* DumbMuscle: Played so very straight.
* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler:Loses his hand and is captured by the
*
*
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
* HalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invoked
* TheJuggernaut: He's completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.
*
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his body is covered with magic runes in
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the Old Empire are true.
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!Logen's Band
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a better place if I'd been killed years ago, but I haven't been, and I don't know why."''
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a better place if I'd been killed years ago, but I haven't been, and I don't know why."''
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
to:
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be
!!Prince Calder
-->'''Dogman:''' ''"Bethod's youngest son. And a
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* BarbarianHero: A classic, if gritty example.
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be the worst man in the North.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion.
* CatchPhrase: Several. [[spoiler: Almost all of them are shown to be inaccurate or delusional over the course of the books.]]
** "You have to be realistic about these things."
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant trait here.*"
* CombatPragmatist
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage.
* TheDragon: He used to be this to Bethod, as his champion during the early parts of the war.
* TheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
* HeroesPreferSwords: Discussed. Logen states that he has no preference in weapons, but Bayaz tells him that HeroesPreferSwords, so he gives him one.
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Bloody-Nine.
* RetiredMonster: By the beginning of the series, Logen is ashamed of his past atrocities and his Bloody-Nine personality. In ''The Red Country'', [[spoiler:he goes a step farther by retiring to a farm and changing his name, but he still can't escape the Bloody-Nine]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seemingly superhuman fighting abilities, yet also goes into a battle lust that causes him to kill just about anything in front of him. Even friends and children. By the start of the series, Logen hates the Bloody-Nine and resists him taking over in anything less than the most extreme circumstances]].
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be the worst man in the North.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion.
* CatchPhrase: Several. [[spoiler: Almost all of them are shown to be inaccurate or delusional over the course of the books.]]
** "You have to be realistic about these things."
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant trait here.*"
* CombatPragmatist
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage.
* TheDragon: He used to be this to Bethod, as his champion during the early parts of the war.
* TheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
* HeroesPreferSwords: Discussed. Logen states that he has no preference in weapons, but Bayaz tells him that HeroesPreferSwords, so he gives him one.
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Bloody-Nine.
* RetiredMonster: By the beginning of the series, Logen is ashamed of his past atrocities and his Bloody-Nine personality. In ''The Red Country'', [[spoiler:he goes a step farther by retiring to a farm and changing his name, but he still can't escape the Bloody-Nine]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seemingly superhuman fighting abilities, yet also goes into a battle lust that causes him to kill just about anything in front of him. Even friends and children. By the start of the series, Logen hates the Bloody-Nine and resists him taking over in anything less than the most extreme circumstances]].
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
to:
* BarbarianHero: A classic, if gritty example.
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to beAwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: With his wife Sef, and occasionally comes through in interactions with his older brother [[TheBrute Scale]]. In the worst man in end, [[spoiler:played straight as he gives Scale rulership of the North.]]
*TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion.
BlueOniRedOni: With Scale. Calder's blue.
*CatchPhrase: Several. TheCasanova: His love for his wife is enough to make him swear off other women. Well, almost enough.
* TheChessmaster: [[spoiler:Almost all of them are shown to be inaccurate or delusional over By the course end of the books.''The Heroes''.]]
** "You have to be realistic about these things."
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant* CurbStompBattle [[spoiler:Dow doesn't even break a sweat against him.]]
* DirtyCoward: By his own admission.
* HotGuyUglyWife: Not ''ugly'' per se, but Sef's most mentioned physical traithere.*"
is her pig nose.
*CombatPragmatist
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many peopleManBehindTheMan: [[spoiler:Ends up as a dim-witted savage.
* TheDragon: He used to bethis to Bethod, as Scale.]]
* ManipulativeBastard: Dead set on reclaiming hischampion during the early parts of the war.
* TheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
* HeroesPreferSwords: Discussed. Logen states that he has no preference in weapons, but Bayaz tells him that HeroesPreferSwords, so he gives him one.
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
father's throne from Black Dow.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast:The Bloody-Nine.
* RetiredMonster: ByDoesn't start with one, since he's never earned it. [[spoiler:Then after he defeats Black Dow in the beginning circle (with a little help), people start calling him Black Calder.]]
* NonActionGuy: He's completely useless in a fight.
* RageBreakingPoint: After [[spoiler:Scale's apparent death]], Calder's response is uncharacteristically hot-headed.
* ShutUpHannibal / ShutUpKirk: Depending on your perspective, delivers a pretty awesome one to [[spoiler:Black Dow, so much so that many of theseries, Logen is ashamed of people there to watch Dow butcher him start laughing.]]
* SmugSmiler: Wears hispast atrocities and his Bloody-Nine personality. In smirk like armor.
* SmugSnake: Zig-zagged throughout ''TheRed Country'', [[spoiler:he goes a step farther by retiring to a farm and changing his name, but he still can't escape the Bloody-Nine]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seemingly superhuman fighting abilities, yet also goesHeroes''. He repeatedly schemes himself into a battle lust that causes him to kill just about anything corner and wriggles out in front of unexpected ways, until [[spoiler:Bayaz finally traps him. Even friends and children. By the start of the series, Logen hates the Bloody-Nine and resists him taking over in anything less than the most extreme circumstances]].
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
And then he escapes ''that'' through [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming brotherly love.]]]]
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be
*
*
* TheChessmaster: [[spoiler:
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant
* DirtyCoward: By his own admission.
* HotGuyUglyWife: Not ''ugly'' per se, but Sef's most mentioned physical trait
*
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people
* TheDragon: He used to be
* ManipulativeBastard: Dead set on reclaiming his
* TheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
* HeroesPreferSwords: Discussed. Logen states that he has no preference in weapons, but Bayaz tells him that HeroesPreferSwords, so he gives him one.
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast:
* RetiredMonster: By
* NonActionGuy: He's completely useless in a fight.
* RageBreakingPoint: After [[spoiler:Scale's apparent death]], Calder's response is uncharacteristically hot-headed.
* ShutUpHannibal / ShutUpKirk: Depending on your perspective, delivers a pretty awesome one to [[spoiler:Black Dow, so much so that many of the
* SmugSmiler: Wears his
* SmugSnake: Zig-zagged throughout ''The
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seemingly superhuman fighting abilities, yet also goes
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
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[[folder:The Dogman]]
!!The Dogman
Logen's oldest friend, a Named Man of some repute. He has sharp teeth, a sharp nose and an even sharper sense of smell.
!!The Dogman
Logen's oldest friend, a Named Man of some repute. He has sharp teeth, a sharp nose and an even sharper sense of smell.
to:
!!The Dogman
Logen's oldest friend, a Named Man
[[folder:Fenris the Feared]]
!!Fenris the Feared
-->''"With this hand I tore down the statues of
Bethod's champion, an
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* TheArcher: His primary weapon, as a scout.
* CombatPragmatist: Pretty common among the Northmen.
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake is his extremely sharp sense of smell.
* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Helped by his sense of smell.
* StealthExpert: Played with. He's famous for his stealth, but due to the relatively realistic nature of the series, we occasionally see Dogman trip over things or bump into people he wasn't expecting.
* CombatPragmatist: Pretty common among the Northmen.
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake is his extremely sharp sense of smell.
* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Helped by his sense of smell.
* StealthExpert: Played with. He's famous for his stealth, but due to the relatively realistic nature of the series, we occasionally see Dogman trip over things or bump into people he wasn't expecting.
to:
* TheArcher: AchillesHeel: The entire left side of his body is covered in blue writing that gives the left side of his body a HealingFactor which makes him impervious to harm. Meanwhile, he wears impenetrable armor over his right side. [[spoiler:Logen kills him by stabbing his sword into his left side and pushes it further and further in until it starts stabbing the organs on his right.]]
* TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
* TheChampion: He serves as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. Hisprimary weapon, as a scout.mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
*CombatPragmatist: Pretty common among the Northmen.
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake isHalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invoked with his extremely sharp sense of smell.
armor and tattoos.
*ScarilyCompetentTracker: Helped by his sense of smell.
* StealthExpert: Played with.TheJuggernaut: He's famous for completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of hisstealth, but due to body is covered with magic runes in the relatively realistic nature language of demons that make him impervious to any harm.
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of theseries, we occasionally see Dogman trip over things or bump into people he wasn't expecting.
Old Empire are true.
* TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
* TheChampion: He serves as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His
*
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake is
*
* StealthExpert: Played with.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the
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[[folder:Rudd Threetrees]]
!!Rudd Threetrees
-->'''Harding Grim:''' ''Never took an easy path, if he thought it was the wrong one. Never stepped back from a fight, if he thought it had to be done. I stood with him, walked with him, fought with him, ten years, all over the North. I've no complaints.''
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
!!Rudd Threetrees
-->'''Harding Grim:''' ''Never took an easy path, if he thought it was the wrong one. Never stepped back from a fight, if he thought it had to be done. I stood with him, walked with him, fought with him, ten years, all over the North. I've no complaints.''
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
to:
!!Rudd Threetrees
-->'''Harding Grim:''' ''Never took an easy path, if he thought it was
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in
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* BadassGrandpa: The oldest member of the band, but still plenty of fight left in him.
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: He was second to Logen. When Logen seemingly dies, Threetrees takes over leadership of their group.
* TheLeader: After Logen is separated from his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies in battle to Fenris the Feared]].
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist: He always spells out the plan.
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: He was second to Logen. When Logen seemingly dies, Threetrees takes over leadership of their group.
* TheLeader: After Logen is separated from his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies in battle to Fenris the Feared]].
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist: He always spells out the plan.
to:
* BadassGrandpa: The oldest member BarbarianHero: A classic, if gritty example.
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be the worst man in the North.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion.
* CatchPhrase: Several. [[spoiler: Almost all of them are shown to be inaccurate or delusional over the course of theband, but still plenty books.]]
** "You have to be realistic about these things."
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant trait here.*"
* CombatPragmatist
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage.
* TheDragon: He used to be this to Bethod, as his champion during the early parts offight left in him.
the war.
*CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashionedTheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
warriors fleeing.
*TheLancer: He was second to Logen. When HeroesPreferSwords: Discussed. Logen states that he has no preference in weapons, but Bayaz tells him that HeroesPreferSwords, so he gives him one.
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Bloody-Nine.
* RetiredMonster: By the beginning of the series, Logen is ashamed of his past atrocities and his Bloody-Nine personality. In ''The Red Country'', [[spoiler:he goes a step farther by retiring to a farm and changing his name, but he still can't escape the Bloody-Nine]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seeminglydies, Threetrees takes over leadership of their group.
* TheLeader: After Logen is separated from his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies insuperhuman fighting abilities, yet also goes into a battle lust that causes him to Fenris kill just about anything in front of him. Even friends and children. By the Feared]].
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist: He always spells outstart of the plan.
series, Logen hates the Bloody-Nine and resists him taking over in anything less than the most extreme circumstances]].
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers used to be the worst man in the North.]]
* TheBerserker: On occasion. Bad occasion.
* CatchPhrase: Several. [[spoiler: Almost all of them are shown to be inaccurate or delusional over the course of the
** "You have to be realistic about these things."
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant trait here.*"
* CombatPragmatist
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage.
* TheDragon: He used to be this to Bethod, as his champion during the early parts of
*
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned
*
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Bloody-Nine.
* RetiredMonster: By the beginning of the series, Logen is ashamed of his past atrocities and his Bloody-Nine personality. In ''The Red Country'', [[spoiler:he goes a step farther by retiring to a farm and changing his name, but he still can't escape the Bloody-Nine]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seemingly
* TheLeader: After Logen is separated from his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies in
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist: He always spells out
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
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[[folder:Black Dow]]
!!Black Dow
-->''"This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."''
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
!!Black Dow
-->''"This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."''
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
to:
!!Black Dow
-->''"This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."''
A sharp-tongued member of
!!The Dogman
Logen's
* TheArcher: His primary weapon, as a scout.
* CombatPragmatist: Pretty common among the Northmen.
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake is his extremely sharp sense of smell.
* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Helped by his sense of smell.
* StealthExpert: Played with. He's famous for his stealth, but due to the relatively realistic nature of the series, we occasionally see Dogman trip over things or bump into people he wasn't expecting.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Rudd Threetrees]]
!!Rudd Threetrees
-->'''Harding Grim:''' ''Never took an easy path, if he thought it was the wrong one. Never stepped back from a fight, if he thought it had to be done. I stood with him, walked with him, fought with him, ten years, all over the North. I've no complaints.''
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
----
* BadassGrandpa: The oldest member of the band, but still plenty of fight left in him.
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: He was second to Logen. When Logen seemingly dies, Threetrees takes over leadership of their group.
* TheLeader: After Logen is separated from his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies in battle to Fenris the Feared]].
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist: He always spells out the plan.
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[[folder:Black Dow]]
!!Black Dow
-->''"This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."''
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
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* CombatPragmatist: Pretty common among the Northmen.
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake is his extremely sharp sense of smell.
* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Helped by his sense of smell.
* StealthExpert: Played with. He's famous for his stealth, but due to the relatively realistic nature of the series, we occasionally see Dogman trip over things or bump into people he wasn't expecting.
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[[folder:Rudd Threetrees]]
!!Rudd Threetrees
-->'''Harding Grim:''' ''Never took an easy path, if he thought it was the wrong one. Never stepped back from a fight, if he thought it had to be done. I stood with him, walked with him, fought with him, ten years, all over the North. I've no complaints.''
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
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* BadassGrandpa: The oldest member of the band, but still plenty of fight left in him.
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: He was second to Logen. When Logen seemingly dies, Threetrees takes over leadership of their group.
* TheLeader: After Logen is separated from his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies in battle to Fenris the Feared]].
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist: He always spells out the plan.
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[[folder:Black Dow]]
!!Black Dow
-->''"This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."''
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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* AffablyEvil
* BadassGrandpa
* BigFun
* FatBastard: Despite the above tropes, he's also [[spoiler:happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* BadassGrandpa
* BigFun
* FatBastard: Despite the above tropes, he's also [[spoiler:happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
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* AffablyEvil
AscendedExtra: Had a supporting role in the original trilogy before becoming a main character in ''Best Served Cold''.
*BadassGrandpa
AxCrazy: [[spoiler: After his FaceHeelTurn.]]
*BigFun
BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: From a well-intentioned man who was victimized by the Bloody Nine to an amoral barbarian who is a cut-price Bloody Nine.]]
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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* {{Acrofatic}}: Despite his considerable girth, he's a capable fighter.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless and cunning.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also[[spoiler:happy happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
*
*
* BedmateReveal: With Monza at one point. She demands he take payment in gold for the night and is quite annoyed when he tries to refuse.
* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Shivers getting his eye burned away in a torture chamber finally pushes him over the edge.]]
* TheBigGuy: Not his role in the group or story, but he often gets tagged with this stereotype due to being Northern.
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Played with. He ends up betraying almost everyone he ever serves to some degree or another, but every time it's due to mistreatment, and the one time it isn't is also something of a redemptive moment for him.
* TheDogBitesBack: Don't mistreat Shivers. ''Seriously.'' Don't. In ''TheHeroes'' [[spoiler: Black Dow himself learns this the hard way.]]
* TheDreaded: [[spoiler: By the time of ''The Heroes.'']]
* EvilSoundsRaspy: [[spoiler: Speaks in a raspy whisper following his torture, due to his vocal chords being damaged from his screams of pain.]]
* EyeScream: [[spoiler: One of his eyes is burnt out when he's captured and tortured by Salier's soldiers.]]
* FacialHorror: [[spoiler: As a result of the aforementioned EyeScream.]]
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Throughout the entire series. He starts out as fairly heroic in the original trilogy, undergoes a StartOfDarkness in ''Best Seved Cold'', is firmly on the villainous side during ''The Heroes'', and shows signs of his former idealism at the end of ''Red Country''.]]
* HeroesPreferSwords: He's one of the more heroic characters in the series, and uses a sword. [[spoiler: He switches to an axe after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold''.]]
* KnightInSourArmor: More or less slides into this after leaving the North.
* TheLancer / TheDragon: To Monza. [[spoiler: And Black Dow. And Calder.]]
* MadnessMantra: [[spoiler: "It should have been you" to Monza after his torture.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Subverted. He claims that he's called Shivers because his enemies shiver in fear when they see him, but it's actually an EmbarrassingNickname he got after he fell into a freezing river on his first raid. [[spoiler: However, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''Best Served Cold'', people ''really'' start being afraid of him.]]
* PetTheDog: [[spoiler: At the end of ''Red Country'', when he finally decides to lay his feud with Logen to rest.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: At the end of the trilogy, [[spoiler: he decides not to participate in Dow's betrayal of Logen.]]
* SheCleansUpNicely: Monza has him get a haircut, cleans him up and gets him into fancy clothes. He looks rather dashing. [[spoiler: It's implied, rather disturbingly, she's trying to make him look like Benna.]]
* SixthRanger: Joins Threetrees' band of Named Men in ''Before They Are Hanged''.
* StartOfDarkness: [[spoiler: What ''Best Served Cold'' is for him.]]
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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* {{Acrofatic}}: Despite his considerable girth, he's a capable fighter.
* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: Beneath his goofy, easy-going facade, he's surprisingly ruthless and cunning.]]
* BadassGrandpa: He's well past his prime, but still a highly respected chieftain and warrior.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Zigzagged. He wants to see Logen fight in a war as the Bloody Nine again, but when the Bloody Nine does take over in battle, he ends up murdering one of Crummock's sons. However, afterwards Crummock doesn't seem too shook up about it, and seems ignorant Logen was even the killer. [[spoiler:At least until their final conversation where Crummock flat-out tells Logen he knows he murdered his son and gives him an ImpliedDeathThreat if he ever comes back into Crummock's territory.]]
* BigFun: He's a fat man who's cheerful and entertaining in his borderline insanity. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he's not as insane as he leads others to believe and he's much more ruthless than first expected.]]
* CloudCuckooLander: He seems insane but in an entertaining way, in particular with regards to believing Logen to be "favored by the moon."
* CreepySouvenir: Wears a necklace made of the finger bones of his fallen enemies.
* DropTheHammer: His WeaponOfChoice is an enormous war hammer.
* FatBastard: [[spoiler: Despite the above tropes, he's also
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: [[spoiler: In his last scene with Logen, he drops his usual loony behavior, revealing that he's completely aware that Logen killed his son and [[ImpliedDeathThreat advising him never to come back to the High Places]] before leaving.]]
* InLoveWithYourCarnage: He respects Logen mostly because of how brutal and impressive his Bloody Nine personality is in battle.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Everyone regards him as a complete lunatic, but he's apparently sane enough to lead men into battle, and was able to evade Bethod's armies longer than any other chieftain. [[spoiler: His conversation with Logen after the battle of the High Places shows that his insanity is mostly a charade.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
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[[folder:Dow's War Chiefs]]
!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders in their own right with a claim to the North. Consists of [[DumbMuscle Scale]] (see above), [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Glama Golden]], [[TheStoic Cairm Ironhead]], [[CoolOldGuy Caul Reachey]], and [[YesMan Brodd Tenways.]]
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* {{Gonk}}: Brodd Tenways, "ugly as incest."
* QuirkyMinibossSquad: for Dow.
* TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
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[[folder:Stranger-Come-Knocking]]
!!Stranger-Come-Knocking
A towering savage who brings his Northmen to Dow's cause.
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* BloodKnight: specifically joins Dow's army because he wants a good fight. He repeatedly asks about fighting his own allies, like Whirrun or Dow himself.
* TheDreaded: One of the most feared men in the North these days.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:He's One of Bayaz's pawns.]]
* PapaWolf: Averted. When one of his children is killed in battle, he seems remarkably unconcerned about it. [[spoiler:Then subverted when he drops his facade of insanity in his last conversation with Logen, where he reveals he knows Logen killed his son in one of his Bloody Nine episodes. While he doesn't attack Logen outright, and says maybe the weak should be culled for the strong, he still says he won't be one of Logen's subjects and [[ImpliedDeathThreat warns him to stay out of the High Places]].]]
* ParentalFavoritism: He confides in Logen that his daughter, Isern, who Crummock acts dismissive of, is actually his favorite of all his children.
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[[folder:Dow's War Chiefs]]
!!The War Chiefs
Black Dow's five generals, all leaders in their own right with a claim to the North. Consists of [[DumbMuscle Scale]] (see above), [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Glama Golden]], [[TheStoic Cairm Ironhead]], [[CoolOldGuy Caul Reachey]], and [[YesMan Brodd Tenways.]]
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* {{Gonk}}: Brodd Tenways, "ugly as incest."
* QuirkyMinibossSquad: for Dow.
* TheRival: Golden & Ironhead.
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[[folder:Stranger-Come-Knocking]]
!!Stranger-Come-Knocking
A towering savage who brings his Northmen to Dow's cause.
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* BloodKnight: specifically joins Dow's army because he wants a good fight. He repeatedly asks about fighting his own allies, like Whirrun or Dow himself.
* TheDreaded: One of the most feared men in the North these days.
* TheMole: [[spoiler:He's One of Bayaz's pawns.]]
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* AffablyEvil: He's very charismatic as well as power-hungry. He also turns out to be less one-dimensionally megalomaniacal and more well-intentioned than he initially appears.
* ArcVillain: He's the main antagonist for the story arc dealing with the Union's war against the Northmen.
* BadBoss: After a decade of using him to unify the North, he exiled Logen under pain of death. [[spoiler:Of course, that's Logen's side of the story. According to Bethod, Logen's psychotic actions as the Bloody Nine kept forcing Bethod into situations where violence was the only option. The only reason he didn't kill Logen and his men is because Bayaz forced him to exile them instead.]]
* CombatByChampion: Bethod conquered many tribes by having Logen fight as his champion. Logen won every single fight.
* ArcVillain: He's the main antagonist for the story arc dealing with the Union's war against the Northmen.
* BadBoss: After a decade of using him to unify the North, he exiled Logen under pain of death. [[spoiler:Of course, that's Logen's side of the story. According to Bethod, Logen's psychotic actions as the Bloody Nine kept forcing Bethod into situations where violence was the only option. The only reason he didn't kill Logen and his men is because Bayaz forced him to exile them instead.]]
* CombatByChampion: Bethod conquered many tribes by having Logen fight as his champion. Logen won every single fight.
* CoolCrown: His golden crown is often commented on.
* DefiantToTheEnd: [[spoiler:After Logen kills Bethod's champion, Fenris, and advances on him, Bethod doesn't cower or flee. He just keeps mocking Logen and calling him out of his own dark deeds. He keeps insulting him until Logen smashes his head in.]]
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Calder thinks very highly of him in ''The Heroes'', showing that, for all his villainous acts, Bethod really cares for his sons. He even says that one of his only goals in starting the war was to leave more behind for his sons than his own father left behind for him.
* EvilFormerFriend: To Logen, who served him for many years before being banished. [[spoiler:Except then it turns out Logen is an UnreliableNarrator and according to Bethod, Logen's actions as the Bloody Nine are responsible for escalating the war until it reached the point of no return.]]
* GenghisGambit: His war against the Union is an attempt to strengthen his fragile hold over the North by uniting the recently conquered clans against a common enemy.
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Calder thinks very highly of him in ''The Heroes'', showing that, for all his villainous acts, Bethod really cares for his sons. He even says that one of his only goals in starting the war was to leave more behind for his sons than his own father left behind for him.
* EvilFormerFriend: To Logen, who served him for many years before being banished. [[spoiler:Except then it turns out Logen is an UnreliableNarrator and according to Bethod, Logen's actions as the Bloody Nine are responsible for escalating the war until it reached the point of no return.]]
* GenghisGambit: His war against the Union is an attempt to strengthen his fragile hold over the North by uniting the recently conquered clans against a common enemy.
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* ManipulativeBastard
* WeUsedToBeFriends: He and Logen were once friends before becoming bitter enemies. Logen even comments that you can't truly hate a person unless you've loved them once, and he did once love Method.
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[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a better place if I'd been killed years ago, but I haven't been, and I don't know why."''
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a better place if I'd been killed years ago, but I haven't been, and I don't know why."''
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
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!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt
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!!Fenris the Feared
-->''"With this hand I
* AchillesHeel: The entire left side of his body is covered in blue writing that gives the left side of his body a HealingFactor which makes him impervious to harm. Meanwhile, he wears impenetrable armor over his right side. [[spoiler:Logen kills him by stabbing his sword into his left side and pushes it further and further in until it starts stabbing the organs on his right.]]
* TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
* TheChampion: He serves as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
* HalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invoked with his armor and tattoos.
* TheJuggernaut: He's completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his body is covered with magic runes in the language of demons that make him impervious to any harm.
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the Old Empire are true.
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!Logen's Band
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a better place if I'd been killed years ago, but I haven't been, and I don't know why."''
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
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* TheBrute: To Bethod, he's a giant that stands over seven-feet-tall and is borderline indestructible thanks to his armor and mystical HealingFactor. It's no surprise Bethod uses him strictly for killing.
* TheChampion: He serves as Bethod's after Logen was exiled.
* TheDreaded: Right there in the name. His mere presence mystically compels his enemies to break down in his presence.
* HalfHumanHybrid: Of some sort. Invoked with his armor and tattoos.
* TheJuggernaut: He's completely unstoppable in battle. [[spoiler: Even Logen doesn't stand a chance against him until Caurib is killed.]]
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Start with naming him after a legendary, giant, god-killing wolf. Then add "the Feared."
* NighInvulnerability: Half of his body is covered with magic runes in the language of demons that make him impervious to any harm.
* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: If his claims that he served under Glustrod during the fall of the Old Empire are true.
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!Logen's Band
[[folder:Logen Ninefingers]]
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a better place if I'd been killed years ago, but I haven't been, and I don't know why."''
An aging Northman with a black name and a blacker past. After living a life of senseless violence, Logen tries to turn away from the path he's walked so long only to find, no matter where he goes, he can't easily escape his deeds, or his nature.
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-->'''Harding Grim:''' ''Never took an easy path, if he thought it was the wrong one. Never stepped back from a fight, if he thought it had to be done. I stood with him, walked with him, fought with him, ten years, all over the North. I've no complaints.''
-->''"This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."''
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For a given value of gold.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Although his heart is pretty black, he's noted to express moral disgust on a given value of gold.few rare occasions. The Dogman is also surprised to see how emotional he gets at [[spoiler:Forley's funeral]].
-->''What's my name? White Dow?''
* PetTheDog: Has a few notable moments, such as his interactions with West or his words at [[spoiler: Threetrees']] funeral.
* RetiredMonster: Has shades of this in ''The Heroes''. [[spoiler: Being King of the Northmen does not leave one with much time for RapePillageAndBurn.]]
* SlasherSmile: Often flashes a menacing grin.
* PetTheDog: Has a few notable moments, such as his interactions with West or his words at [[spoiler: Threetrees']] funeral.
* RetiredMonster: Has shades of this in ''The Heroes''. [[spoiler: Being King of the Northmen does not leave one with much time for RapePillageAndBurn.]]
* SlasherSmile: Often flashes a menacing grin.
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* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
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* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal revel in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations Revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad in comparison.]]
* TookALevelInKindness: Surprisingly, he comes across as much more personable in ''The Heroes'', thoughin comparison]] Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for this might just be how [[NobleTopEnforcer Craw]] sees him.
* VitriolicBestBuds: He and Tul Duru will occasionally worklike this, you bring along each other into a man like me."
screaming argument that requires the others to tone down before it comes to blows, but their both good friends.
* WouldHitAGirl: Has no qualms about killing women.
* WouldHurtAChild: Or children, for that matter.
* TookALevelInKindness: Surprisingly, he comes across as much more personable in ''The Heroes'', though
* VitriolicBestBuds: He and Tul Duru will occasionally work
* WouldHitAGirl: Has no qualms about killing women.
* WouldHurtAChild: Or children, for that matter.
-->'''Dogman:''' ''The Thunderhead was a different animal. Once that big ox got properly riled there was no calming him. Not without ten strong men and a lot of rope.''
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* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to die]].
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to die]].
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* BadassBeard
BadassBeard: He's a gigantic warrior with an impressive beard.
*TheBigGuy
{{BFS}}: He wields an enormous sword that he often rests on his shoulder.
* TheBigGuy: His role in the Logen's group of Named Men, being the literal biggest and strongest.
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band todie]].die. Logan kills him in one of his blackouts during the battle of the High Places.]]
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* TheBigGuy: His role in the Logen's group of Named Men, being the literal biggest and strongest.
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to
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* NoIndoorVoice
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* NoIndoorVoiceNoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: [[spoiler: The cause of his death. When Logen is wounded in battle, Tul tries to help him up, not realizing that Logen is in full Bloody-Nine mode and no longer able to distinguish between friends and enemies.]]
* NoIndoorVoice: Has a deep, booming voice, giving him his name.
* NoIndoorVoice: Has a deep, booming voice, giving him his name.
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* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
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* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
Dow. With Dow. They argue all the time, and each refuses to follow the other, [[spoiler:but when Tul dies, Dow delivers an impassioned eulogy at his funeral.]]
--> ''"Uh."''
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* ArcherArchetype
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* ArcherArchetypeArcherArchetype: Logen accounts him the best archer he's ever seen... before he met Ferro.
* BewareTheQuietOnes: Logen recalls nearly being spitted by Grim with a spear during their duel.
* BewareTheQuietOnes: Logen recalls nearly being spitted by Grim with a spear during their duel.
* {{Catchphrase}}: "Uh."
* ColdSniper: A very laconic and stoic archer.
* ColdSniper: A very laconic and stoic archer.
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* TheQuietOne: He rarely speaks.
* TheSmartGuy
* TheSmartGuy
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* TheQuietOne: He rarely speaks.
* TheSmartGuy
speaks, which is where his name comes from.
* TheSmartGuy
-->'''Dogman:''' ''He might not have been much at killing, Forley, but he was a damn good boy for stopping those that were from killing each other.''
* DecapitationPresentation: [[spoiler:Bethod's son, Calder, has Forley killed out of spite, and one of his lieutenants throws the sack containing his head at Threetrees' feet. Logen's band proceed to kill all of Calder's lieutenants for this.]]
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* TheHeart: Lousy at winning fights, but excellent at preventing them.
* NonActionGuy
* NonActionGuy
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* TheHeart: Lousy at winning fights, but excellent at preventing them.
them, which the Dogman notes is a very useful ability.
*NonActionGuyNoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: With the Shanka advancing and Bethod's army on the move, it's only a matter of time before the Shanka overwhelm the North. Forley volunteers to deliver a warning to Bethod's people about the Shanka since he's the least threatening member of Logen's band, so they're most inclined to listen to him. [[spoiler:Not only does Bethod's son, Calder, have Forley killed, it turns out Bethod is working with the Shanka.]]
* NonActionGuy: He generally just hides during fights. When he does manage to kill a flathead, it's a matter of celebration.
*
* NonActionGuy: He generally just hides during fights. When he does manage to kill a flathead, it's a matter of celebration.
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* TheSoCalledCoward: Everyone, including himself, considers him a coward due to his NonActionGuy status. But in the end Forley is willing to risk his life by parlaying with Bethod's people in the hopes of warning the North about a Shanka invasion. [[spoiler:He ends up killed for it and Threetrees' remarks at his courage and self-sacrifice at his funeral.]]
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[[folder:Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
* AffablyEvil
* BadassGrandpa
* BigFun
* FatBastard: Despite the above tropes, he's also [[spoiler:happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
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[[folder:Rudd Threetrees]]
!!Threetrees
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
* BadassGrandpa
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: To Logen.
* TheLeader: After Logen splits with his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* [[spoiler: SacrificialLion]]
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist
!!Threetrees
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
* BadassGrandpa
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: To Logen.
* TheLeader: After Logen splits with his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* [[spoiler: SacrificialLion]]
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist
to:
!!Threetrees
An elderly member of Logen's band,
!! Logen Ninefingers
-->''"I've no doubt the world would be a
* BadassGrandpa
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga
An aging Northman with
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: To Logen.
* TheLeader:
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*
* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: A rare heroic example. [[spoiler:
*
*
** "You have to be realistic about these things."
** "You can never have too many knives."
** "Still alive."
** "Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he...*insert relevant trait here.*"
* CombatPragmatist
* CoolSword: Carried the Maker's Sword for a while.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Outside the North, he comes off to many people as a dim-witted savage.
* TheDragon: He used to be this to Bethod, as his champion during the early parts of the war.
* TheDreaded: By the time of ''The Heroes'', just the rumor of his presence can send Northern warriors fleeing.
* HeroesPreferSwords: Discussed. Logen states that he has no preference in weapons, but Bayaz tells him that HeroesPreferSwords, so he gives him one.
* KnifeNut: Prefers larger weapons in a fight, but always has a few knives as backup. One of his mottoes is, "You can never have too many knives."
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: The Bloody-Nine.
* RetiredMonster: By the beginning of the series, Logen is ashamed of his past atrocities and his Bloody-Nine personality. In ''The Red Country'', [[spoiler:he goes a step farther by retiring to a farm and changing his name, but he still can't escape the Bloody-Nine]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: The Bloody-Nine. [[spoiler:It's an alternate personality in which he gains seemingly superhuman fighting abilities, yet also goes into a battle lust that causes him to kill just about anything in front of him. Even friends and children. By the start of the series, Logen hates the Bloody-Nine and resists him taking over in anything less than the most extreme circumstances]].
* WarriorPoet: Has a bit of a philosophical side.
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[[folder:Black Dow]]
!!Black Dow
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
* AxeCrazy
** FakeUltimateHero: [[spoiler:Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is a large part of his reputation.]]
* TheDogBitesBack: Pulls this on [[spoiler:Logen, and then years later Shivers pulls it on him.]]
* TheDreaded: Nearly as much as Logen.
* DualWielding: Sword and axe.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Claims to not be as bad as Bethod's tax collectors, who leave nothing from villages they 'collect' from. [[spoiler: He then claims he never would kill his friends to Logen, and kills him to prevent a madman becoming the King of the North]]
* HairTriggerTemper: Although he seems to be able to turn it off just as quickly. Its hinted at in ''The Heroes'' that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
* HiddenDepths. Used to be a craftsman's apprentice and sometimes regrets leaving that life.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For a given value of gold.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Bethod ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
* TheLancer: To Threetrees.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: ''Is'' this trope.
* TheSneakyGuy: "You won't see Black Dow coming. Not if he doesn't want to be seen."
* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
!!Black Dow
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
* AxeCrazy
** FakeUltimateHero: [[spoiler:Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is a large part of his reputation.]]
* TheDogBitesBack: Pulls this on [[spoiler:Logen, and then years later Shivers pulls it on him.]]
* TheDreaded: Nearly as much as Logen.
* DualWielding: Sword and axe.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Claims to not be as bad as Bethod's tax collectors, who leave nothing from villages they 'collect' from. [[spoiler: He then claims he never would kill his friends to Logen, and kills him to prevent a madman becoming the King of the North]]
* HairTriggerTemper: Although he seems to be able to turn it off just as quickly. Its hinted at in ''The Heroes'' that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
* HiddenDepths. Used to be a craftsman's apprentice and sometimes regrets leaving that life.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For a given value of gold.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Bethod ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
* TheLancer: To Threetrees.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: ''Is'' this trope.
* TheSneakyGuy: "You won't see Black Dow coming. Not if he doesn't want to be seen."
* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
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!!Black Dow
A sharp-tongued member of
!!The Dogman
Logen's
* AxeCrazy
** FakeUltimateHero: [[spoiler:Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is
* TheDogBitesBack: Pulls this on [[spoiler:Logen,
* TheDreaded: Nearly as much as Logen.
* DualWielding: Sword and axe.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Claims to not be as bad as Bethod's tax collectors, who leave nothing from villages they 'collect' from. [[spoiler: He then claims he never would kill his friends to Logen, and kills him to prevent a madman becoming the King
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*
*
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For a given value of gold.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Bethod ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging
* TheNoseKnows: His namesake is his extremely sharp sense of smell.
* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Helped by his sense of smell.
* StealthExpert: Played with. He's famous for his stealth, but due to the
* TheLancer: To Threetrees.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: ''Is'' this trope.
* TheSneakyGuy: "You won't
* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
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!!Tul Duru "Thunderhead"
A giant member of Logen's band, he is extremely tall and strong.
* AwesomeMcCoolName: Even by Named Man standards.
* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to die]].
* NiceGuy: He's not one to use his size to bully others, and is "slow to anger."
* NoIndoorVoice
* RageBreakingPoint: The Dogman muses at one point that Tul Duru is extremely slow to anger, and that's ''a very good thing for everyone.''
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
!!Tul Duru "Thunderhead"
A giant member of Logen's band, he is extremely tall and strong.
* AwesomeMcCoolName: Even by Named Man standards.
* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to die]].
* NiceGuy: He's not one to use his size to bully others, and is "slow to anger."
* NoIndoorVoice
* RageBreakingPoint: The Dogman muses at one point that Tul Duru is extremely slow to anger, and that's ''a very good thing for everyone.''
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
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!!Tul Duru "Thunderhead"
A giant
!!Rudd Threetrees
An elderly member of Logen's band,
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* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to
*
* TheLancer: He was second to
* TheLeader: After Logen is
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* SacrificialLion: [[spoiler:Dies in battle to
*
*
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
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[[folder:Harding Grim]]
!!Harding Grim
A laconic member of Logen's band.
* ArcherArchetype
* CaptainObvious: The Dogman notes that, when Grim does choose to speak, it's rarely something profound and usually something that didn't need saying in the first place.
* DeadpanSnarker
* HiddenDepths: [[spoiler: Speaks fluent Union, for one.]]
* TheQuietOne: He rarely speaks.
* TheSmartGuy
!!Harding Grim
A laconic member of Logen's band.
* ArcherArchetype
* CaptainObvious: The Dogman notes that, when Grim does choose to speak, it's rarely something profound and usually something that didn't need saying in the first place.
* DeadpanSnarker
* HiddenDepths: [[spoiler: Speaks fluent Union, for one.]]
* TheQuietOne: He rarely speaks.
* TheSmartGuy
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!!Harding Grim
!!Black Dow
A
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*
* CaptainObvious: The Dogman notes that, when Grim does choose to speak, it's rarely something profound and usually something that didn't need saying in the first place.
* DeadpanSnarker
* HiddenDepths:
*
*
* BadBoss: Zigzagged in ''The Heroes''. He can be perfectly affable to his subordinates if he deems them worthy of his respect, but behaves like a total jerk to everyone else. [[spoiler: His constant mistreatment of Shivers has [[TheDogBitesBack fatal consequences for him.]]]]
* BloodKnight: There's nothing that Dow enjoys more than killing. In ''The Heroes'', he jumps at the chance of fighting on the frontlines again after years of inactivity.
* CardCarryingVillain: He's an unrepentant murderer and rapist, and enjoys every minute of it.
* CombatPragmatist: Despite being a fearsome fighter, he doesn't like to take unnecessary risks and is not above fighting dirty. [[spoiler: Logen finds out the hard way at the end of the trilogy.]]
* CoolSword: [[spoiler: After betraying Logen, he claims the Maker's sword for himself.]]
* DeadpanSnarker: Has a [[BlackComedy very dark,]] cynical kind of humor.
* TheDogBitesBack: Pulls this on [[spoiler:Logen, and then years later Shivers pulls it on him.]]
* TheDreaded: Nearly as much as Logen. He has a particularly vile reputation for having done just about every underhanded deed you could think of.
* DualWielding: Sword and axe.
* EarAche: One of his most notable traits is his missing ear.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Claims to not be as bad as Bethod's tax collectors, who leave nothing from villages they 'collect' from. [[spoiler: He then claims he never would kill his friends to Logen, and kills him to prevent a madman becoming the King of the North.]]
* FakeUltimateHero: [[spoiler:Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is a large part of his reputation.]]
* HairTriggerTemper: Although he seems to be able to turn it off just as quickly. Its hinted at in ''The Heroes'' that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
* HiddenDepths. Used to be a craftsman's apprentice and sometimes regrets leaving that life.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For a given value of gold.
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Bethod ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
* {{Jerkass}}: Generally acts hostile and abrasive, even to his own allies.
* TheLancer: To Threetrees.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: ''Is'' this trope.
* TheSneakyGuy: "You won't see Black Dow coming. Not if he doesn't want to be seen."
* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
[[folder:Tul Duru "Thunderhead"]]
!!Tul Duru "Thunderhead"
A giant member of Logen's band, he is extremely tall and strong.
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* AwesomeMcCoolName: Even by Named Man standards.
* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to die]].
* NiceGuy: He's not one to use his size to bully others, and is "slow to anger."
* NoIndoorVoice
* RageBreakingPoint: The Dogman muses at one point that Tul Duru is extremely slow to anger, and that's ''a very good thing for everyone.''
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Harding Grim]]
!!Harding Grim
A laconic member of Logen's band.
----
* ArcherArchetype
* CaptainObvious: The Dogman notes that, when Grim does choose to speak, it's rarely something profound and usually something that didn't need saying in the first place.
* DeadpanSnarker
* HiddenDepths: [[spoiler: Speaks fluent Union, for one.]]
* TheQuietOne: He rarely speaks.
* TheSmartGuy
[[/folder]]
!!Tul Duru "Thunderhead"
A giant member of Logen's band, he is extremely tall and strong.
----
* AwesomeMcCoolName: Even by Named Man standards.
* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
* BigGuyFatalitySyndrome: [[spoiler:He's the third member of the band to die]].
* NiceGuy: He's not one to use his size to bully others, and is "slow to anger."
* NoIndoorVoice
* RageBreakingPoint: The Dogman muses at one point that Tul Duru is extremely slow to anger, and that's ''a very good thing for everyone.''
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Harding Grim]]
!!Harding Grim
A laconic member of Logen's band.
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* ArcherArchetype
* CaptainObvious: The Dogman notes that, when Grim does choose to speak, it's rarely something profound and usually something that didn't need saying in the first place.
* DeadpanSnarker
* HiddenDepths: [[spoiler: Speaks fluent Union, for one.]]
* TheQuietOne: He rarely speaks.
* TheSmartGuy
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[[folder:Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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* AffablyEvil
* BadassGrandpa
* BigFun
* FatBastard: Despite the above tropes, he's also [[spoiler:happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
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* CombatPragmatist: As a commander.
-->'''Logen:''' He delights in every trick of war - in setting traps and ambushes, in mounting feints and deceptions, in sending sudden raids against the unwary. Look for him where you expect him least, and expect him to be strongest where he seems the weakest. [[DefensiveFeintTrap Beware him most of all when he seems to run.]]
-->'''Logen:''' He delights in every trick of war - in setting traps and ambushes, in mounting feints and deceptions, in sending sudden raids against the unwary. Look for him where you expect him least, and expect him to be strongest where he seems the weakest. [[DefensiveFeintTrap Beware him most of all when he seems to run.]]
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* TheHeartTheHeart: Lousy at winning fights, but excellent at preventing them.
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* BadBoss: After a decade of using him to unify the North, exiled Logen under pain of death.
* [[spoiler: CreateYourOwnVillain: Bethod claims this is what Logen did - he was just one of many war chiefs originally, who hoped to gain a few victory's and then get good terms from his enemies, like everyone else did, so he could keep his home safe and give his sons a little more land. When Logen became his champion, he forced him into all out war by killing the men Bethod wanted to spare or ransom, leading to total war in the North, forcing Bethod to beat everyone or die.]]
* [[spoiler: CreateYourOwnVillain: Bethod claims this is what Logen did - he was just one of many war chiefs originally, who hoped to gain a few victory's and then get good terms from his enemies, like everyone else did, so he could keep his home safe and give his sons a little more land. When Logen became his champion, he forced him into all out war by killing the men Bethod wanted to spare or ransom, leading to total war in the North, forcing Bethod to beat everyone or die.]]
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* BadBoss: After a decade of using him to unify the North, exiled Logen under pain of death.
* [[spoiler:CreateYourOwnVillain: [[spoiler: Bethod claims this is what Logen did - he was just one of many war chiefs originally, who hoped to gain a few victory's and then get good terms from his enemies, like everyone else did, so he could keep his home safe and give his sons a little more land. When Logen became his champion, he forced him into all out war by killing the men Bethod wanted to spare or ransom, leading to total war in the North, forcing Bethod to beat everyone or die.]]
* [[spoiler:
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* [[spoiler: TheGoodKing: [[spoiler: The things he did for the North make him a legend by The ''The Heroes.]]'']]
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** [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero: Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is a large part of his reputation.]]
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** [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero: Doesn't FakeUltimateHero: [[spoiler:Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is a large part of his reputation.]]
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* HairTriggerTemper: Although he seems to be able to turn it off just as quickly.
** Its hinted at in The Heroes that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
** Its hinted at in The Heroes that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
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* HairTriggerTemper: Although he seems to be able to turn it off just as quickly.
**quickly. Its hinted at in The Heroes ''The Heroes'' that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
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** JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Bethod ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
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* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded.
** "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
** "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
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* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoiler: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]] Lampshaded.
**Lampshaded: "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
**
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!!Tul "Thunderhead" Duru
!!Tul "Thunderhead" Duru
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!!Tul
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* NiceGuy: Probably the most basically decent member of Logen's band.
* NiceGuy: Probably the most basically decent member of Logen's band.
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* NiceGuy:
* CaptainObvious: The Dogman notes that, when Grim does choose to speak, it's rarely something profound and usually something that didn't need saying in the first place.
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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin
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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin
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** JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Method ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
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** JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Method Bethod ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
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** JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Method ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, he has no problem fighting one on his own, in fact [[WarIsGlorious he revels in it.]]
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** JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: He is even more a ruthless a despot than Method ever was and while he gets annoyed at Logen dragging the North into someone ''else's'' war, the first thing he has no problem fighting one on his own, in fact [[WarIsGlorious he revels in it.does after coming to power is start conquering the rest of the North for himself.]]
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* DealWithTheDevil: Made one with [[spoiler:Bayaz, and a related one with the Shanka.]]
* [[spoiler: TheGoodKing: The things he did for the North make him a legend by The Heroes.]]
* GoodParents: Surprisingly, in later books he comes off as wanting only the best for his sons and doing his best to teach them how to rule.
* ManipulativeBastard
* NobleSavage: The image he attempts to cultivate.
* PoisonousFriend: [[spoiler:Claims that ''Logen'' was this to him, and he only had to conquer the North because Logen made too many enemies with his brutality.]]
* TheStrategist: He unified the North mostly by defeating all his enemies in battle, something he was very good at.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: One interpretation of his actions in conquering the north.
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* [[spoiler: TheGoodKing: The things he did for the North make him a legend by The Heroes.]]
* GoodParents: Surprisingly, in later books he comes off as wanting only the best for his sons and doing his best to teach them how to rule.
* ManipulativeBastard
* NobleSavage: The image he attempts to cultivate.
* PoisonousFriend: [[spoiler:Claims that ''Logen'' was this to him, and he only had to conquer the North because Logen made too many enemies with his brutality.]]
* TheStrategist: He unified the North mostly by defeating all his enemies in battle, something he was very good at.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: One interpretation of his actions in conquering the north.
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* AffablyEvil
* BadassGrandpa
* BigFun
* FatBastard: Despite the above tropes, he's also [[spoiler:happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* BadassGrandpa
* BigFun
* FatBastard: Despite the above tropes, he's also [[spoiler:happy to get other people killed pursuing his ideas about destiny, and remarkably unconcerned about his own son's death.]]
* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: Hilariously, has this reaction to Logen.
* BadassGrandpa
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: To Logen.
* TheLeader: After Logen splits with his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* [[spoiler: SacrificialLion]]
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist
* CoolOldGuy: Admit it, you want to get drunk and smoke chagga with him.
* KnightInSourArmor: Has an old-fashioned Northern sense of honor, despite his circumstances.
* TheLancer: To Logen.
* TheLeader: After Logen splits with his crew.
* LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe
* [[spoiler: SacrificialLion]]
* SinkOrSwimMentor: To West.
* TheStrategist
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Claims to not be as bad as Bethod's tax collectors, who leave nothing from villages they 'collect' from. [[spoilers: He then claims he never would kill his friends to Logen, and kills him to prevent a madman becoming the King of the North]]
* TokenEvilTeamMate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoilers: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]]
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** [[spoiler:FakeUltimateHero: Doesn't actually kill Logen Ninefingers, which is a large part of his reputation.]]
* TheDogBitesBack: Pulls this on [[spoiler:Logen, and then years later Shivers pulls it on him.]]
* TheDreaded: Nearly as much as Logen.
* DualWielding: Sword and axe.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Claims to not be as bad as Bethod's tax collectors, who leave nothing from villages they 'collect' from.
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** Its hinted at in The Heroes that he plays the part on purpose. Being known as a crazy fucker who might start killing people on the drop of a hat has its perks.
* HiddenDepths. Used to be a craftsman's apprentice and sometimes regrets leaving that life.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For a given value of gold.
* TheLancer: To Threetrees.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: ''Is'' this trope.
* TheSneakyGuy: "You won't see Black Dow coming. Not if he doesn't want to be seen."
* TokenEvilTeammate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured.
** "This ain't for you, to kill a man tied up. It's for work like this, you bring along a man like me."
* AwesomeMcCoolName: Even by Named Man standards.
* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
** [[spoiler:BigGuyFatalitySyndrome]]
* NiceGuy: Probably the most basically decent member of Logen's band.
* NoIndoorVoice
* RageBreakingPoint: The Dogman muses at one point that Tul Duru is extremely slow to anger, and that's ''a very good thing for everyone.''
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
* BadassBeard
* TheBigGuy
** [[spoiler:BigGuyFatalitySyndrome]]
* NiceGuy: Probably the most basically decent member of Logen's band.
* NoIndoorVoice
* RageBreakingPoint: The Dogman muses at one point that Tul Duru is extremely slow to anger, and that's ''a very good thing for everyone.''
* VitriolicBestBuds: With Dow.
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* ArcherArchetype
* DeadpanSnarker
* HiddenDepths: [[spoiler: Speaks fluent Union, for one.]]
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* SacrificialLamb: In-universe; his village sent him to duel Logen as a form of surrender. [[spoiler:This turns out to be his role in-story as well.]]
* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin
* TheHeart
* NonActionGuy
* SacrificialLamb: In-universe; his village sent him to duel Logen as a form of surrender. [[spoiler:This turns out to be his role in-story as well.]]
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*TokenEvilTeamMate: Seems to reveal in it - he claims he's the one to kill teenagers who they've captured. [[spoilers: revelations about the Bloody Nine shows he might not be so bad though in comparison]]
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!The Northmen
[[folder:Bethod]]
!!King Bethod
A charismatic and ruthless leader. An excellent military tactician who intends to conquer Angland after he has defeated almost every clan in the North. He is Logen's bitter enemy after he betrayed him and his band of men. He has two sons, Calder and Scale.
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[[folder:Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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!Logen's Band
[[folder:Threetrees]]
!!Threetrees
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
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[[folder:Black Dow]]
!!Black Dow
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
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[[folder:Thunderhead]]
!!Tul "Thunderhead" Duru
A giant member of Logen's band, he is extremely tall and strong.
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[[folder:Hardyng Grim]]
!!Hardyng Grim
A laconic member of Logen's band.
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[[folder:Forley]]
!!Forley the Weakest
A member of Logen's band, nervous and cowardly but acts to keep the group together and stop them fighting each other.
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!The Northmen
[[folder:Bethod]]
!!King Bethod
A charismatic and ruthless leader. An excellent military tactician who intends to conquer Angland after he has defeated almost every clan in the North. He is Logen's bitter enemy after he betrayed him and his band of men. He has two sons, Calder and Scale.
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[[folder:Shivers]]
!!Caul Shivers
A bitter Northman, he searches for vengeance against Logen for butchering his brother many years ago.
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[[folder:Crummock-i-Phail]]
!!Crummock-i-Phail
Regarded "the maddest bastard in the north" he leads a clan of Treemen, he wears a necklace of finger bones around his neck and has his three children carry his weapons around for him (unable to tell his daughter from his sons), he seems friendly if crazy.
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!Logen's Band
[[folder:Threetrees]]
!!Threetrees
An elderly member of Logen's band, a skilled and inspiring leader in his own right.
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[[folder:Black Dow]]
!!Black Dow
A sharp-tongued member of Logen's band who is famed for his ruthlessness.
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[[folder:Thunderhead]]
!!Tul "Thunderhead" Duru
A giant member of Logen's band, he is extremely tall and strong.
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!!Hardyng Grim
A laconic member of Logen's band.
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[[folder:Forley]]
!!Forley the Weakest
A member of Logen's band, nervous and cowardly but acts to keep the group together and stop them fighting each other.
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