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* KickTheSonOfABitch: [[spoiler: When Avalon finally gets his comeuppance in Origin, Rodcorte shoves even more fragments of Guduranis's soul into him and then sets the corrupted oaf loose in Lambda against Vandalieu. Corrupted Avalon and Corrupted Edgar meet, fully reviving Guduranis through a FusionDance. After a hard fight, Van ''eats Guduranis'', [[NiceJobFixingItVillain making Van even more problematic for Alda's faction.]]]]
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: While he's morally not much better, overwriting Hajime's mind and soul to use his body as vessel won't elate much pity, since Inui was a coward and a SerialRapist. Doing the same to the Flame Blades and Gordon isn't much worse given their treachery and abusive behavior [[spoiler:though they aren't indicated to have had their souls eaten like Hajime's was.]]
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* LogicalFallacy: Tries a few to soothe Heinz' conscience. The most glaring of which is that if Heinz didn't sell Darcia to Gordan, then someone else would have. Even if that were true, that doesn't make Heinz any less guilty for doing it, and leaving a half-year old child to starve to death, and continuing to hunt and traumatize said child for ten odd years.
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* LogicalFallacy: UsefulNotes/LogicalFallacies: Tries a few to soothe Heinz' conscience. The most glaring of which is that if Heinz didn't sell Darcia to Gordan, then someone else would have. Even if that were true, that doesn't make Heinz any less guilty for doing it, and leaving a half-year old child to starve to death, and continuing to hunt and traumatize said child for ten odd years.
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** Several of her races don't seem very well designed and have significant trouble reproducing, such as the cripplingly infertile ghouls, the asexual vampires and the single gendered arachne, which undermines the entire point of their existence. She didn't or couldn't actually choose what the species she birthed would be like, so for them to end up flawed is rather understandable. Her personality is also kind of flaky and easily flustered.
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** Several of her races don't seem very well designed and have significant trouble reproducing, such as the cripplingly infertile ghouls, the asexual vampires and the single gendered arachne, arachne and scylla, which undermines the entire point of their existence. She didn't or couldn't actually choose what the species she birthed would be like, so for them to end up flawed is rather understandable. Her personality is also kind of flaky and easily flustered.
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** Alda had a point right after the demon king war that her circle of reincarnation was a flawed copy of an already flawed copy. It was extremely unstable and required constant maintenance to keep it running normally. However, the system is becoming more stable with time as more souls are added to it and the less rigid nature of her circle allows it to recover more easily from errors like souls being added to it, broken or other issues that cause a major headache for Rodcorte. She's considering offering it to other gods once the links have been worked out so no one else has to rely on Rodcorte out of sheer necessity.
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** Alda had a point right after the demon king war that her circle cycle of reincarnation was a flawed copy of an already flawed copy. It was extremely unstable and required constant maintenance to keep it running normally. However, the system is becoming more stable with time as more souls are added to it and the less rigid nature of her circle allows it to recover more easily from errors like souls being added to it, broken or other issues that cause a major headache for Rodcorte. She's considering offering it to other gods once the links kinks have been worked out so no one else has to rely on Rodcorte out of sheer necessity.
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* StartMyOwn: Because she didn't trust Rodcorte (and with good reason), she decided to create her own transmigration cycle for her races, which is already based on the one created by the Demon King. While it's a good deal more unstable than his and needs to be overseen by multiple heroic spirits and the like, this ''does'' make it a great deal more flexible: Anything Van does regarding souls and death magic causes major problems for Rodcorte, but the monster races and so on migrating into Vida's transmigration circle causes it no problems whatsoever.
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* StartMyOwn: Because she didn't trust Rodcorte (and with good reason), she decided to create her own transmigration cycle for her races, which is already based on the one created by the Demon King. While it's a good deal more unstable than his and needs to be overseen by multiple heroic spirits and the like, this ''does'' make it a great deal more flexible: Anything Van does regarding souls and death magic causes major problems for Rodcorte, but the monster races and so on migrating into Vida's transmigration circle cycle causes it no problems whatsoever.
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* GoneHorriblyRight: Rodcorte wanted to increase the flow of souls through his system, so he decided to reincarnate people from a different world to spread knowledge and increase the rate at which people die and are born. Vandalieu does exactly that, but for Vida’s competing system, due to what a {{Jerkass}} Rodcorte is, which ends up causing Rodcorte an endless stream of problems.
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** Rodcorte wanted to increase the flow of souls through his system, so he decided to reincarnate people from a different world to spread knowledge and increase the rate at which people die and are born. Vandalieu does exactly that, but for Vida’s competing system, due to what a {{Jerkass}} Rodcorte is, which ends up causing Rodcorte an endless stream ofproblems.problems.
** Rodcorte created his reincarnation system to be almost totally flawless. [[spoiler:He wound up making it so flawless that he isn't even necessary to keep it running, so when he finally goes too far there is nothing stopping Alda from impaling him and turning control of the system over to his familiars]].
** Rodcorte wanted to increase the flow of souls through his system, so he decided to reincarnate people from a different world to spread knowledge and increase the rate at which people die and are born. Vandalieu does exactly that, but for Vida’s competing system, due to what a {{Jerkass}} Rodcorte is, which ends up causing Rodcorte an endless stream of
** Rodcorte created his reincarnation system to be almost totally flawless. [[spoiler:He wound up making it so flawless that he isn't even necessary to keep it running, so when he finally goes too far there is nothing stopping Alda from impaling him and turning control of the system over to his familiars]].
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* CantKillYouStillNeedYou: The only reason the gods of Earth, Origin, and Lambda haven't ripped him to pieces is because, without his transmigration cycle, the lives of their worlds could get extinguished. [[spoiler:This ultimately comes to an end when he resurrects Guduranis in an attempt to kill Vandalieu. This pisses off Alda so much that he attacks Rodcorte, impaling him with multiple stakes, and carts him away after getting confirmation from Rodcorte's familiars that they can run the reincarnation system without him]].
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* CantKillYouStillNeedYou: The only reason the gods of Earth, Origin, and Lambda haven't ripped him to pieces is because, without his transmigration cycle, the lives of their worlds could get extinguished. [[spoiler:This ultimately comes to an end when he resurrects Guduranis in an attempt to kill Vandalieu. This pisses off Alda so much that he attacks Rodcorte, impaling him with multiple stakes, and carts him away after getting once gets confirmation from Rodcorte's familiars that they can run the reincarnation system without him]].him, leaves him impaled like that so he can't do anymore damage]].
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* CantKillYouStillNeedYou: The only reason the gods of Earth, Origin, and Lambda haven't ripped him to pieces is because, without his transmigration cycle, the lives of their worlds could get extinguished.
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* CantKillYouStillNeedYou: The only reason the gods of Earth, Origin, and Lambda haven't ripped him to pieces is because, without his transmigration cycle, the lives of their worlds could get extinguished. [[spoiler:This ultimately comes to an end when he resurrects Guduranis in an attempt to kill Vandalieu. This pisses off Alda so much that he attacks Rodcorte, impaling him with multiple stakes, and carts him away after getting confirmation from Rodcorte's familiars that they can run the reincarnation system without him]].
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* FantasticRacism: He believes that every Evil God that came from the Demon King's world and all their progeny have to be purged from Lambda for the sake of returning it to what it was, a "clean world". Even his acceptance of Vida races only applies to ones with no relations to the evil gods, as allowing any beings with any amount of alien "corrupted" mana to exist will make it impossible for him to acheive his ultimate goal of a once again monster and dungeon free world.
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* FantasticRacism: He believes that every Evil God that came from the Demon King's world and all their progeny have to be purged from Lambda for the sake of returning it to what it was, a "clean world". Even his acceptance of Vida races only applies to ones with no relations to the evil gods, as allowing any beings with any amount of alien "corrupted" mana to exist will make it impossible for him to acheive achieve his ultimate goal of a once again monster and dungeon free world.
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* AnythingThatMoves: Mated with elves, undead, humans, tentacle gods and all sorts of other gods and monsters in order to birth the various new races of the world. There's even a joke among the dwarves that the only reason she hasn't created a race with one of them yet is that she passed out during a drinking contest first and you shouldn't take advantage of a drunk woman.
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* {{Bishonen}}: His upper half looks like a fair-looking young man.
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* {{Bishonen}}: Described as quite handsome.
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* HeWhoHuntsMonsters: In his mad obsession with revenge on Guduranis, he's become ''exactly'' like the Demon King he hates. He thinks himself righteousness incarnate for launching attacks on others, goes into an absolute rage when his attacks are rebuffed, attacks allies who try to withdraw from battle when given the chance, and becomes absolutely obsessed with avenging himself on anyone who dares to defy him.
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* HeWhoHuntsMonsters: In his mad obsession with revenge on Guduranis, he's become ''exactly'' like the Demon King he hates. He thinks himself righteousness incarnate for launching attacks on others, goes into an absolute rage when his attacks are rebuffed, attacks allies who try to withdraw from battle when given the chance, and becomes absolutely obsessed with avenging himself on anyone who dares to defy him.
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* CircularReasoning: He and his army ignore all of Van's peace overtures, just one-sidedly attacking. When Van's had enough and retaliates, he cries out "As I thought, you are all truly evil!"
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* RevengeBeforeReason: His son's mother died in the war with Guduranis, so he cheers when his son attacks Van, "as that's avenging his mother," utterly refusing to accept the reality that Van and Guduranis are two very, very different beings. When the inevitable happens and his son winds up not only falling in battle, but being turned into an undead, he goes absolutely murder crazy in desiring revenge for his son, despite the fact that his son is the aggressor, and he knows it.
* ShockAndAwe: He attacks by hurling lightning around.
* ShockAndAwe: He attacks by hurling lightning around.
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The alien God that invaded the world of Lambda with his army of monsters 100,000 years prior to the story. Greatly feared for his ability to destroy souls, he killed the four creation-oriented champions while Bellwood and his army were distracted. In spite of being defeated and his many body parts sealed, his influence and remaining followers keep threatening the world.
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The alien God that invaded the world of Lambda with his army of monsters 100,000 years prior to the story. Greatly feared for his ability to destroy souls, he killed the four creation-oriented champions while Bellwood and his army were distracted. In spite of being defeated and his many body parts sealed, his influence and remaining followers keep threatening the world.
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* AttackAttackAttack: During the entire fight with Van's forces, he cared nothing about tactics, strategies, gains, or losses, all he tried to do is to keep attacking Van until either Van goes down or he does, and Gorn had a hell of a time trying to stop him from frying his own forces with friendly fire in the process.
* BandwagonFallacy: He ''attacks allies'' who retreat when given the chance because Van letting them go, at Botin's insistence, must be some kind of dirty trick, and even though he knows that he and his forces don't have a snowball's chance in hell of defeating Van's forces, especially since all the hard-fought battles in protecting Botin's seal were nothing more than ''a diversion'' where his side suffered heavy casualties, while Van's is still unharmed, he refuses to withdraw and sees even Gorn as a traitor if he doesn't attack "now, before it's too late." Pointedly ignoring the fact that waking up Bellwood is their best and only hope of attaining victory and they should focus on that.
* {{Hypocrite}}: He cheers his son attacking Vandalieu in a manner so reckless as to be abjectly suicidal, brushing off all of Gorn's protests and warnings, until the inevitable happens and his son ends up eating a fatal attack, at which point, he acts as if Gorn didn't warn him his son's actions were utterly suicidal, and are directly responsible for screwing up their best chance for a sneak attack that might have done Vandalieu in.
* MisplacedRetribution: The primary reason he attacked Vandalieu, and cheered his son on for doing the same, is that he's deluded himself into thinking Vandalieu and Guduranis are one and the same, thereby attacking someone who had absolutely nothing, at all, to do with the death of his son's mother.
* SuicideByCop: Despite knowing he and his forces don't stand a chance against Vandalieu [[spoiler: especially after Botin and Peria join forces with him]], he still insists on attacking and '''orders''' his allies to do the same, or he'll kill them as traitors and cowards.
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The alien God that invaded the world of Lambda with his army of monsters 100,000 years prior to the story. Greatly feared for his ability to destroy souls, he killed the four creation-oriented champions while Bellwood and his army were distracted. In spite of being defeated and his many body parts sealed, his influence and remaining followers keep threatening the world.
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* BandwagonFallacy: He ''attacks allies'' who retreat when given the chance because Van letting them go, at Botin's insistence, must be some kind of dirty trick, and even though he knows that he and his forces don't have a snowball's chance in hell of defeating Van's forces, especially since all the hard-fought battles in protecting Botin's seal were nothing more than ''a diversion'' where his side suffered heavy casualties, while Van's is still unharmed, he refuses to withdraw and sees even Gorn as a traitor if he doesn't attack "now, before it's too late." Pointedly ignoring the fact that waking up Bellwood is their best and only hope of attaining victory and they should focus on that.
* {{Hypocrite}}: He cheers his son attacking Vandalieu in a manner so reckless as to be abjectly suicidal, brushing off all of Gorn's protests and warnings, until the inevitable happens and his son ends up eating a fatal attack, at which point, he acts as if Gorn didn't warn him his son's actions were utterly suicidal, and are directly responsible for screwing up their best chance for a sneak attack that might have done Vandalieu in.
* MisplacedRetribution: The primary reason he attacked Vandalieu, and cheered his son on for doing the same, is that he's deluded himself into thinking Vandalieu and Guduranis are one and the same, thereby attacking someone who had absolutely nothing, at all, to do with the death of his son's mother.
* SuicideByCop: Despite knowing he and his forces don't stand a chance against Vandalieu [[spoiler: especially after Botin and Peria join forces with him]], he still insists on attacking and '''orders''' his allies to do the same, or he'll kill them as traitors and cowards.
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!Demon King and Evil Gods
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The alien God that invaded the world of Lambda with his army of monsters 100,000 years prior to the story. Greatly feared for his ability to destroy souls, he killed the four creation-oriented champions while Bellwood and his army were distracted. In spite of being defeated and his many body parts sealed, his influence and remaining followers keep threatening the world.
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* WhipItGood: She wielded a whip when she was human, fitting for a tamer.
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* WhipItGood: WhipOfDominance: She wielded a whip when she was human, fitting for a tamer.
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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: Chapters 256-260 reveal that one of the meat-puppets Curatos had designed for Heinz to fight was Randolf the True, at Alda's orders. '''''After''''' having Heinz repeatedly fight meat-puppets of all Van's friends, family, and followers, over and over again, no opportunity for discussion, to demonstrate that they're "evil" and cannot be reasoned with. This horrifies Alda and his subordinates when they learn from Rodcorte that Randolf is being Guided by Kanako through her music, as it will most likely cause ''unintended'' conflict between the Colored Blades and Randolf the moment they meet.
