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* SympathyForTheDevil: Yes, Norma murders Joe when he tries to leave her--but the action breaks her mind entirely and sends her spiraling into complete delusion. Everyone around her looks at her with complete pity and terror as she enters her fantasy world of making movies again; a few people are even crying as she speaks.
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* NotSoStoic: Even Max is on the verge of tears when he sees Norma go completely insane at the end of the film, and he can only watch in silence as she slips into her fantasies forever.
* NotSoStoic: Even Max is on the verge of tears when he sees Norma go completely insane at the end of the film, and he can only watch in silence as she slips into her fantasies forever.
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* TheStoic: Max remains completely grounded throughout the film and puts up with all of Norma's tantrums, fits, and illusions without complaint.
* UndyingLoyalty: Max gave up his career as a director to marry Norma, and even after she divorced him, he still loves her. He manifests that love by becoming Norma's loyal butler, and enables all of her delusions--even going so far as to personally write fake fan mail every single day--as a sign of his devotion.
* UndyingLoyalty: Max gave up his career as a director to marry Norma, and even after she divorced him, he still loves her. He manifests that love by becoming Norma's loyal butler, and enables all of her delusions--even going so far as to personally write fake fan mail every single day--as a sign of his devotion.
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* HighHopesZeroTalent: She wants to make a comeback in films by writing her own script, but has taken twenty years to perfect it, and Joe the professional screenwriter can tell it's hopeless immediately.
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* OldMaid: She's fifty and unmarried, delusionally still believing she's twenty-five.
* OldMaid: She's fifty and unmarried, delusionally still believing she's twenty-five.
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* {{Yandere}}: She murders Joe when she realises she can't have him the way she wanted.
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* RichBitch: She's extremely wealthy and very full of herself, but for most of the movie, she wasn't really that nasty. Yes, she forces Joe to work her script as a (hopeless) ploy to get back in the spotlight, but she treats him incredibly well. But then she lives up to the "bitch" part, when Joe quits writing the script and tries to abandon Norma, and she responds by shooting him.
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* VillainProtagonist: She's a power-crazed freakshow who murders one of the main leads, and yet she herself is one of the leads.
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* RichesToRags: He used to be a world-famous Hollywood director, before he gave it all up to get married to Norma, and eventually become her butler.
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* WalkingSpoiler: She was the one who killed Joe towards the ending.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Despite her time in the spotlight being up, she still vows to make a return some day in the near future.
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**To Norma: Norma's probably the bigger example. They're both major love interests for our central character Joe Gillis. While Norma's trapped in the silent age and is crazy desperate to be back in the spotlight, Betty's aware of the reality of the of the current period and is perfectly accepting of not being on a camera.
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