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* ArmorIsUseless: Somewhat AVERTED. Whatever material their armor is made out of, only protect them from a lightsaber strike, but a strong and direct strike/stab as Kylo effortlessly cuts through them in seconds.



* {{Retcon}}: Creator/JJAbrams and the writers of ''The Force Awakens'' created them just as an {{Expy}} of the Imperial Inquisitorium and as an easy way to show that the Sith were really gone and that Kylo Ren was part of a new Dark Side cult with no ties to Palpatine. Then, in the ''Aftermath'' novels it's implied that they were descended from a cult known as the Acolytes of the Beyond but later ''The Last Jedi'' hints that they formed from some of Luke Skywalker's students who fell to the Dark Side along with Ben Solo, only for the comic ''The Rise of Kylo Ren'' to ignore that explanation, establishing them as Sith wannabes who existed before Ben Solo fell to the dark side, with their leader being the first "Ren" before Ben usurped him and took the name.

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* {{Retcon}}: Creator/JJAbrams and the writers of ''The Force Awakens'' created them just as an {{Expy}} of the Imperial Inquisitorium Inquisitorius and as an easy way to show that the Sith were really gone and that Kylo Ren was part of a new Dark Side cult with no ties to Palpatine. Then, in the ''Aftermath'' novels it's implied that they were descended from a cult known as the Acolytes of the Beyond but later ''The Last Jedi'' hints that they formed from some of Luke Skywalker's students who fell to the Dark Side along with Ben Solo, only for the comic ''The Rise of Kylo Ren'' to ignore that explanation, establishing them as Sith wannabes who existed before Ben Solo fell to the dark side, with their leader being the first "Ren" before Ben usurped him and took the name.
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* AdvertisedExtra: Their presence was teased in ''The Force Awakens'', and early on when ''The Rise of Skywalker'' was being made with set photos, although they didn't get much focus in the marketing overall. In the end, they only have a couple of scenes in ''The Rise of Skywalker'', zero dialogue and a grand total of ''one'' fight scene, and against their former leader following his HeelFaceTurn at that. That leaves the [[AllThereInTheManual comics]] ''The Rise of Kylo Ren'', and ''Crimson Reign'' to flesh them out.

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* AdvertisedExtra: Their presence was teased in ''The Force Awakens'', and early on when ''The Rise of Skywalker'' was being made with set photos, although they didn't get much focus in the marketing overall. In the end, they only have a couple of scenes in ''The Rise of Skywalker'', zero dialogue and a grand total of ''one'' fight scene, and against their former leader following his HeelFaceTurn at that. That leaves the [[AllThereInTheManual comics]] ''The Rise of Kylo Ren'', and ''Crimson Reign'' Reign'', and ''Hidden Empire'' to flesh them out.



* DidntThinkThisThrough: Eventually turns against Qi'ra because he realizes pissing off Palpatine is a bad idea, and that sooner or later the man will survive and go after everyone responsible. Fair enough. But he also thinks Palpatine might be grateful and goes to tell him. You know, the man who has made a life out of disposing of people when they're not useful to him. Palpatine is [[UngratefulBastard exactly as grateful as can be imagined]], and zaps the Knights with Force Lightning, killing Massif and Marinda right there, and telling the remainder they work for him now.

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: Eventually turns against Qi'ra because he realizes pissing off Palpatine is a bad idea, and that sooner or later the man will survive and go after everyone responsible. Fair enough. But he also thinks saving Palpatine and Vader from the Fermata Cage's time stopping effects might be grateful have the Emperor thank him and goes to tell him.the Knights for it. You know, the man who has made a life out of disposing of people when they're not useful to him. Palpatine is [[UngratefulBastard exactly as grateful as can be imagined]], and zaps the Knights with Force Lightning, killing Massif and Marinda right there, and telling the remainder they work for him now.

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* TheAllSolvingHammer: Luke calls them on this in ''The Rise of Kylo Ren'', treating the Dark Side of the Force as a mere blunt instrument. In fairness, most of them don't have the training or the skill for anything flashy.



* EvilWearsBlack: They all wear black-colored armor and are a gang of ruthless marauders.



* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: They were able to ambush and capture Chewbacca offscreen. Given Wookies are renowned for their strength and notoriously difficult to overpower, this is an accomplishment.

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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: They were able to ambush and capture Chewbacca offscreen. Given Wookies are renowned for their strength and for being notoriously difficult to overpower, this is an a pretty impressive accomplishment.



* TheAllSolvingHammer: Luke calls them on this in ''The Rise of Kylo Ren'', treating the Dark Side of the Force as a mere blunt instrument. In fairness, most of them don't have the training or the skill for anything flashy.


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* InTheBack: Ben leaps over him and then skewers him from behind with his lightsaber.
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* SpitefulSpit: During the infiltration of Castle Vader, Fyodor pauses briefly to spit into one of the bacta storage tanks in order to leave something for Vader to remember them by. Vader repays his remembrance via his ''[[Deadly Euphemism usual]]'' methods.

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* SpitefulSpit: During the infiltration of Castle Vader, Fyodor pauses briefly to spit into one of the bacta storage tanks in order to leave something for Vader to remember them by. Vader repays his remembrance via his ''[[Deadly Euphemism ''[[NeckSnap usual]]'' methods.

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