History Characters / PrideAndPrejudice

7th Apr '18 7:12:27 PM Erivale
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold[=/=]JerkassFacade: He really is a nice guy at heart, he's just awful at showing it. He gets better.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold[=/=]JerkassFacade: JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He really is a nice guy at heart, but he's just got his own share of flaws that make him awful at showing it. He gets better.
10th Feb '18 9:23:23 PM DoctorNemesis
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Detailing criticisms about Lizzy's family are a terrible way to ''propose marriage,'' but his points are not completely without merit, and she knows it.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Detailing criticisms about Lizzy's family are a terrible way to ''propose marriage,'' but his points are not completely without merit, and she knows it. She's also forced to concede that while his meddling in Jane and Bingley's relationship was high-handed and based on an incorrect view of her sister's feelings, it's not hard to see where he was coming from.
10th Feb '18 9:14:59 PM DoctorNemesis
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* GoldDigger: It's not clear if her reason for marrying Mr Bennet had anything to do with money, but if nothing else she's certainly a GoldDigger by proxy, and is loudly and shamelessly vocal about the fortunes of any eligible men in the vicinity and the likelihood of marrying her daughters to him. This is not without reason, though, given that the entailment on Longbourn means the girls ''must'' marry in order to have their livelihood assured.

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* GoldDigger: It's not clear if her reason for marrying Mr Bennet had anything to do with money, but if nothing else she's certainly a GoldDigger by proxy, and is loudly and shamelessly vocal about the fortunes of any eligible men in the vicinity and the likelihood of marrying her daughters to him. This is not without reason, though, given that the entailment on Longbourn means the girls ''must'' marry in order to have their livelihood assured.assured -- though as Darcy points out to Elizabeth, her over-eager efforts have succeeded in driving off at least two potential suitors, suggesting that while her underlying concern is valid she'd be better served dialling down the avariciousness a little.
9th Feb '18 7:01:37 AM fruitstripegum
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* [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]]: Her father and younger sister are nice, but not very bright. And then she marries Mr Collins.



* [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]]: Her father and younger sister are nice, but not very bright. And then she marries Mr Collins.
9th Feb '18 7:00:27 AM fruitstripegum
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* ThrowTheDogABone: WordOfGod says she eventually married a clerk, so she doesn't end up as a spinster.



* ThrowTheDogABone: WordOfGod says she eventually married a clerk, so she doesn't end up as a spinster.
24th Nov '17 8:57:56 PM frozen
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Modern readers often rush to attribute his coldness to social anxiety or another disorder, especially if they are emotionally invested in seeing him as a misunderstood DoggedNiceGuy whose awkward proposal was unfairly and unjustly rejected by mean, cruel Elizabeth. But he himself eventually admits at the end of the book that his primary character fault is conceit coloured by selfishness and contempt. To make the comparison: as Elizabeth has cultivated pride in her understanding and prejudice against those she considers her intellectual and emotional inferiors, Darcy had cultivated pride in his birth and prejudice against those he considers his social inferiors. Both must change.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Modern readers often rush to attribute his coldness to social anxiety or another disorder, especially if they are emotionally invested in seeing him as a misunderstood DoggedNiceGuy whose awkward proposal was unfairly and unjustly rejected by mean, cruel Elizabeth. But he himself eventually admits at the end of the book that his primary character fault is faults are pride and conceit coloured by selfishness and contempt. To make the comparison: as Elizabeth has cultivated pride in her understanding and prejudice against those she considers her intellectual and emotional inferiors, Darcy had cultivated pride in his birth and prejudice against those he considers his social inferiors. Both must change.contempt.
23rd Nov '17 9:16:24 AM frozen
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* DeconstructedTrope: If one gathered all the contemporary wisdom of what a Regency era country squire was supposed to be (educated, witty, living on his estate, unemotional, uninvolved in his daughters’ education, and unwilling to get his hands dirty with actual work) and distilled it into a single character, one would get something very much like Mr. Bennet. Unfortunately.


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* DeconstructedTrope: If one gathered all the contemporary wisdom of what a Regency era country squire’s wife was supposed to be (uneducated and yet wholly responsible for her daughters’ education, blissfully ignorant of the world outside her circle, fixated on getting her daughters married off no matter to whom, interested only in traditionally female subjects like fashion, housekeeping, and gossip, not overly troubled by logic or reason) and distilled it into a single character, one would get something very much like Mrs. Bennet. Unfortunately.


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* DeconstructedTrope: If you take Mr. and Mrs. Bennet as distillations of all the contemporary wisdom on what a proper Regency country squire and his wife should be, Lydia would be the child produced by that couple.
23rd Nov '17 8:57:27 AM frozen
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Darcy is socially awkward, especially among strangers, somewhat oblivious to how his behavior is perceived by others, and doesn't seem very adept at using his facial expressions or body language (so that when he's gazing at Elizabeth in admiration, she thinks he's staring at her with disapproval, or even that he's just bored). It's probably safe to assume he suffers some form of social anxiety, though, given his reluctance to partake in social activities and dislike of conversing with strangers.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Darcy is socially awkward, Modern readers often rush to attribute his coldness to social anxiety or another disorder, especially among strangers, somewhat oblivious to how his behavior is perceived by others, if they are emotionally invested in seeing him as a misunderstood DoggedNiceGuy whose awkward proposal was unfairly and doesn't seem very adept unjustly rejected by mean, cruel Elizabeth. But he himself eventually admits at using his facial expressions or body language (so the end of the book that when he's gazing at his primary character fault is conceit coloured by selfishness and contempt. To make the comparison: as Elizabeth has cultivated pride in admiration, her understanding and prejudice against those she thinks he's staring at considers her with disapproval, or even that he's just bored). It's probably safe to assume intellectual and emotional inferiors, Darcy had cultivated pride in his birth and prejudice against those he suffers some form of considers his social anxiety, though, given his reluctance to partake in social activities and dislike of conversing with strangers.inferiors. Both must change.



** Has shades of this with Bingley, who regularly appeals to him for advice and whom he does his best to shield from the possible ill consequences of his overly-pliant personality.
* BigDamnHeroes: Though it's entirely from a social standpoint, Darcy's arranging the marriage between Lydia and Wickham saves the Bennets from their DarkestHour. Particularly in the 1995 serial, where we see him personally find the fugitives and is ''right'' behind Wickham in the church--with an expression as though he's prepared to pummel him right there and then if he hesitates in repeating the vows..

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** Has shades of this with Bingley, who regularly appeals to him for advice and whom he does his best to shield from the possible ill consequences of his overly-pliant overly pliant personality.
* BigDamnHeroes: Though it's entirely from a social standpoint, Darcy's arranging the marriage between Lydia and Wickham saves the Bennets from their DarkestHour. Particularly in the 1995 serial, where we see him personally find the fugitives and is ''right'' behind Wickham in the church--with an expression as though he's prepared to pummel him right there and then if he hesitates in repeating the vows..vows.



** He’s often considered a socially awkward DoggedNiceGuy by modern readers, but in the text he himself admits that his issue is mainly pride, as shown below.



* TheProudElite: He is perceived as extremely arrogant and completely uncaring of those around him to the point that even those who acknowledge his good looks and wealth dismiss him as proud and disagreeable. He eventually admits all of this to have been ''entirely true'' during a giant The Reason I Suck speech:

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* TheProudElite: He is perceived as extremely arrogant and completely uncaring of those around him to the point that even those who acknowledge his good looks and wealth dismiss him as proud and disagreeable. He eventually admits all of this to have been ''entirely true'' during a his giant The Reason I Suck speech:
23rd Nov '17 8:43:59 AM frozen
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* TheProudElite: He is perceived as extremely arrogant and completely uncaring of those around him to the point that even those who acknowledge his good looks and wealth dismiss him as proud and disagreeable. Darcy eventually admits this to be true in a giant The Reason I Suck speech:

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* TheProudElite: He is perceived as extremely arrogant and completely uncaring of those around him to the point that even those who acknowledge his good looks and wealth dismiss him as proud and disagreeable. Darcy He eventually admits all of this to be true in have been ''entirely true'' during a giant The Reason I Suck speech:
20th Nov '17 6:16:35 PM frozen
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** He’s often considered a socially awkward DoggedNiceGuy by modern readers, but in the text he himself admits that his issue is mainly pride, as shown below.



* TheProudElite: He is perceived as extremely arrogant and completely uncaring of those around him, to the point that even those who acknowledge his good looks and wealth dismiss him as someone not worth getting to know. However, this impression is unintentional, and he is in truth a morally upright, deeply caring man who is unfortunately very socially awkward and slightly pompous.

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* TheProudElite: He is perceived as extremely arrogant and completely uncaring of those around him, him to the point that even those who acknowledge his good looks and wealth dismiss him as someone not proud and disagreeable. Darcy eventually admits this to be true in a giant The Reason I Suck speech:
-->“I was given good principles, but left to follow them in pride and conceit. Unfortunately an only son (for many years an only child), I was spoilt by my parents, who, though good themselves (my father, particularly, all that was benevolent and amiable), allowed, encouraged, almost taught me to be selfish and overbearing; to care for none beyond my own family circle; to think meanly of all the rest of the world; to wish at least to think meanly of their sense and
worth getting to know. However, this impression is unintentional, and he is in truth a morally upright, deeply caring man who is unfortunately very socially awkward and slightly pompous.compared with my own.”
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