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* {{Irony}}: Otto is a racist eugenicist who looks down on nonwhites as inferiors. But when he is deported to Nazi Germany, he is treated with absolute disdain by Heinrich Himmler for being born with deformed legs and deeming him "useless" to the Nazis for not fitting the criteria of a physically fit Aryan race.

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* {{Irony}}: Otto is a racist eugenicist who looks down on nonwhites as inferiors. But when he is deported to Nazi Germany, he is treated with absolute disdain by Heinrich Himmler UsefulNotes/HeinrichHimmler for being born with deformed legs and deeming him "useless" to the Nazis for not fitting the criteria of a physically fit Aryan race.
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The owner of the Black Cat nightclub and a friend and lover to The Spider-Man. After being brutally scarred due to her association with him at the hands of Crime Master at which point she ended her association with the vigilante. Years later she is used as a hostage by Mysterio, who drains Peter of his blood to get his powers, and while he is defeated Felicia takes it to get powers herself, becoming a vigilante called White Widow.

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The owner of the Black Cat nightclub and a friend and lover to The Spider-Man. After being brutally scarred due to her association with him at the hands of Crime Master at which point Master, she ended ends her association with the vigilante. Years later she is used as a hostage by Mysterio, who drains Peter of his blood to get his powers, and while he is defeated Felicia takes it to get powers herself, becoming a vigilante called White Widow.

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** {{Downplayed|Trope}}. The mainstream Spider-Man uses mechanical webshooters while this version of Spider-Man can shoot organic webbing from his wrists like their [[Characters/SpiderManTrilogySpiderMan Earth-96823 counterpart]]. Also, in his original two mini-series, Spider-Man does not create web-lines as his dark webbing always manifests as a spray or net.

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** {{Downplayed|Trope}}. The mainstream Spider-Man uses mechanical webshooters while this version of Spider-Man can shoot organic webbing from his wrists like their [[Characters/SpiderMan2099 2099]] and [[Characters/SpiderManTrilogySpiderMan Earth-96823 counterpart]].Earth-96823]] counterparts. Also, in his original two mini-series, Spider-Man does not create web-lines as his dark webbing always manifests as a spray or net.


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* AllWebbedUp: Unlike the previous versions of Spider-Man this version can't shoot out his webs other than in sprays or nets.


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* LeParkour: Since Peter can't shoot his webs in a straight line for a BuildingSwing, he gets around by running and leaping across buildings InASingleBound.

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* AdaptationalNameChange: A minor case but he is often referred to as ''The'' Spider-Man as opposed to just Spider-Man. This is likely to make him more similar to the pulp heroes of that era such as Radio/TheShadow and Literature/TheSpider, and even Franchise/{{Batman}} who was called "The Bat-Man" in his first appearances.


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* AdaptationalNameChange: A minor case but he is often referred to as ''The'' Spider-Man as opposed to just Spider-Man. This is likely to make him more similar to the pulp heroes of that era such as Radio/TheShadow and Literature/TheSpider, and even Franchise/{{Batman}} who was called "The Bat-Man" in his first appearances.
* AdaptationalSuperpowerChange:
** In the comics, Peter's powers derive from being bitten by a radioactive spider. Here, it's the result of a single spider out of a horde that was originally sealed in a magical artifact.
** {{Downplayed|Trope}}. The mainstream Spider-Man uses mechanical webshooters while this version of Spider-Man can shoot organic webbing from his wrists like their [[Characters/SpiderManTrilogySpiderMan Earth-96823 counterpart]]. Also, in his original two mini-series, Spider-Man does not create web-lines as his dark webbing always manifests as a spray or net.

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* AdaptationalNameChange: A minor case but he is often referred to as ''The'' Spider-Man as opposed to just Spider-Man. This is likely to make him more similar to the pulp heroes of that era such as Radio/TheShadow and Literature/TheSpider, and even Franchise/{{Batman}} who was called the Bat-Man in his first appearances.

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* AdaptationalNameChange: A minor case but he is often referred to as ''The'' Spider-Man as opposed to just Spider-Man. This is likely to make him more similar to the pulp heroes of that era such as Radio/TheShadow and Literature/TheSpider, and even Franchise/{{Batman}} who was called the Bat-Man "The Bat-Man" in his first appearances.



* AlternateSelf: Meets many of his counterparts in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and joins the ComicBook/WebWarriors. His counterparts have also met versions that are more similar to Peter, such as his [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Earth-12041]] counterpart meeting a version who was active in the 1930s.
* AntiHero: Due to the tragic life he's led, this Spidey is much more willing to kill if he believes there isn't another option. Instead of "With great power, comes great responsibility", the lesson Peter was taught was that "If there is too much power, then it is the responsibility of the people to take it away" which reflects the more communist worldview his aunt and uncle had due to the Depression. [[DownplayedTrope However]] despite being a darker Spider-Man he gets along well enough with the rest of the Web-Warriors and there is obviously a reason why the Superior Spider-Man chose to not include Peter in his plan to kill the Inheritors unlike with Assassin Spider-Man and Ashley Barton.

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* AlternateSelf: Meets many of his counterparts in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and joins the ComicBook/WebWarriors. His counterparts have also met versions that are more similar to Peter, such as his [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Earth-12041]] counterpart meeting a version who that was active in the 1930s.
* AntiHero: Due to the tragic life he's led, this Spidey is much more willing to kill if he believes there isn't another option. Instead of "With great power, comes great responsibility", the lesson Peter was taught was that "If there is too much power, then it is the responsibility of the people to take it away" which reflects the more communist worldview his aunt and uncle had due to the Depression. [[DownplayedTrope However]] However]], despite being a darker Spider-Man he gets along well enough with the rest of the Web-Warriors and there is obviously a reason why the Superior Spider-Man chose to not include Peter in his plan to kill the Inheritors unlike with Assassin Spider-Man and Ashley Barton.



* BreakoutCharacter: By far the most popular character from ''Marvel Noir'' as he got three comic series and has appeared in games, cartoons and a film. He is also considered to be one of the best alternate Spider-Men.
* InnocentlyInsensitive: Peter is good friends with Robbie Robertson as they share a similar worldview, but at times he was oblivious to certain things and also dismissed Robbie's justified worries about Otto Octavius which shows how the time period he is in has changed Peter.
* LoveCannotOvercome: While Peter wants to have a relationship with Felicia in the second comic, she calmly explains that it is impossible due to the different lives they lead and after she is scarred by the Crime-Master their relationship is destroyed. While they seem to have patched things up by the time she becomes White Widow neither mentions their relationship and Peter has apparently moved on to Mary Jane.

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* BreakoutCharacter: By far the most popular character from ''Marvel Noir'' as he got has three comic series and has appeared in games, cartoons cartoons, and a film. He is also considered to be one of the best alternate Spider-Men.
* DarkIsNotEvil: Unlike his mainstream self, Peter's costume consists of a black airman suit that his uncle wore during the First World War. Despite being much more jaded than his 616 counterpart, Peter still fights for the good of others.
* InnocentlyInsensitive: Peter is good friends with Robbie Robertson as they share a similar worldview, but at times he was is oblivious to certain things and also dismissed dismisses Robbie's justified worries about Otto Octavius which shows how the time period he is in has changed Peter.
* LoveCannotOvercome: While Peter wants to have a relationship with Felicia in the second comic, she calmly explains that it is impossible due to the different lives they lead and after she is scarred by the Crime-Master their relationship is destroyed. While they seem to have patched things up by the time she becomes White Widow neither mentions their relationship and Peter has apparently moved on to Mary Jane.
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* DisabledInTheAdaptation: Unlike his mainstream counterpart, this take on Octavius is paraplegic.


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* SubParSupremacist: His hatred of black people is motivated by jealousy that his family's black servants could walk while he was confined to a wheelchair due to being born with deformed legs. While he idolizes the Nazis, Himmler treats him with absolute disdain when they finally meet, since people with birth defects like his were ostracized at best by the Third Reich.

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* AdaptationalPersonalityChange: Like her counterpart from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' she is more of a "girl next door" type than her original comic portrayal since she doesn't have the confidence to outright admit her interest in Peter. However by the time of ''Edge of Spider-Verse'' she seems to have become more confident.

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* AdaptationalPersonalityChange: Like her counterpart from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' she is more of a "girl next door" type than her original comic portrayal since she doesn't have the confidence to outright admit her interest in Peter. However Peter, though by the time of ''Edge of Spider-Verse'' she seems to have become more confident.confident. Regardless, she has little in common with her original comic self, primarily because being being a teenager in the 1930s means her original party girl characterisation wouldn't work as well as it did in the 1960s.


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* AdaptationalWimp: He lacks the gadgets and superhuman powers of his canon self.


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A crime boss.
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* ArchEnemy: As usual, he has this dynamic with Daredevil.


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Seemingly an innocent woman looking for help, she turns out to be the infamous assassin known as the Bullseye Killer.
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* AndTheAdventureContinues: [[spoiler:After finally killing those responsible for his father's death, Frank Jr wonders what to do next. Does he continue his work of punishing criminals? Does he go after the other crime bosses like Luciano or Capone? Frank gets his answer when he reads a newspaper about a certain Adolf Hitler.]]
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* {{Irony}}: Otto is a racist eugenicist who looks down on nonwhites as inferiors. But when he is deported to Nazi Germany, he is treated with absolute disdain by Heinrich Himmler for being born with deformed legs and deeming him "useless" to the Nazis.

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* {{Irony}}: Otto is a racist eugenicist who looks down on nonwhites as inferiors. But when he is deported to Nazi Germany, he is treated with absolute disdain by Heinrich Himmler for being born with deformed legs and deeming him "useless" to the Nazis.Nazis for not fitting the criteria of a physically fit Aryan race.
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* {{Irony}}: Otto is a racist eugenicist who looks down on nonwhites as inferiors. But when he is deported to Nazi Germany, he is treated with absolute disdain by Heinrich Himmler for being born with deformed legs and deeming him "useless" to the Nazis.

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* {{Lobotomy}}: [[spoiler:Robbie tragically became a victim of Otto Octavius' lobotomy, turning him into a mindless slave.]]



* LaserGuidedKarma: At first [[KarmaHoudini it looked like he was going to get away with his crimes]], but when he gets to Germany the Nazis reject him when they learn he was born with his disability.

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* DrivenByEnvy: He is a racist towards blacks and other non-white people is because he was born disabled and grew to detest his African servants for being able to walk and doing anything he can't do while confined to his wheelchair.
* EvilCripple: This version of Otto is a racist eugenicist born with deformed legs and confines on a wheelchair.
* LaserGuidedKarma: At first [[KarmaHoudini it looked like he was going to get away with his crimes]], but when he gets to Germany the Nazis Nazis, especially Heinrich Himmler himself, reject him when they learn he was born with his disability.disability.
* MadScientist: He is a eugenicist specialized in neurology and use his expertise in turning black people into [[{{Lobotomy}} lobotomized]] [[SlaveMooks slaves]].
* PragmaticVillainy: He is a racist, but he isn't completely on board with outright genocide because he sees it as "wasteful".
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* AlternateSelf: Meets many of his counterparts in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and joins the ComicBook/WebWarriors. His counterparts have also met versions that are more similar to Peter, such as his [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan Earth-12041]] counterpart meeting a version who was active in the 1930s.

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* AlternateSelf: Meets many of his counterparts in ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' and joins the ComicBook/WebWarriors. His counterparts have also met versions that are more similar to Peter, such as his [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan [[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Earth-12041]] counterpart meeting a version who was active in the 1930s.

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* CompositeCharacter: Since she is Peter's first love who suffers a tragedy at the hands of a villain she seems to be one for Gwen Stacy. As a female hero with powers she seems similar to ComicBook/{{Silk}} and her name brings to mind ComicBook/BlackWidow.
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* BreakoutCharacter: By far the most popular character from ''Marvel Noir'' as he got three comic series and has appeared in games, cartoons and a film. He is also considered to be one of the best alternate Spider-Men.

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!! Daredevil Friends & Foes

[[folder:Foggy Nelson]]
!!Franklin "Foggy" Nelson

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!! Daredevil Friends & Foes

[[folder:Foggy Nelson]]
!!Franklin "Foggy" Nelson
[[folder:Otto Octavius]]
!!Otto Octavius



!!!'''First appearance:''' ''Daredevil: Noir #1'' (June 2009)

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!!!'''First appearance:''' ''Daredevil: Noir ''Spider-Man Noir: Eyes Without A Face #1'' (June 2009)(December 2009)

A scientist with interest in joining the Nazis.



* AdaptationalJobChange: Is a private detective instead of a lawyer.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: While their exact ages aren't given, there is clearly an age gap between Foggy and Matt.

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* AdaptationalJobChange: AdaptationalDyeJob: Is blond in this version.
* AdaptationalVillainy: This version makes his original counterpart seem far more heroic, as he is
a private detective instead of a lawyer.
petty racist who wants to lobotomize minorities to make them slaves.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: AdaptationalWimp: While their exact ages he still has mechanical arms they aren't given, there is clearly an age gap between Foggy and Matt.anywhere close to the quality of the original comic version.
* LaserGuidedKarma: At first [[KarmaHoudini it looked like he was going to get away with his crimes]], but when he gets to Germany the Nazis reject him when they learn he was born with his disability.



[[folder:Kingpin]]
!!Kingpin
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Wilson Fisk

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[[folder:Kingpin]]
!!Kingpin
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Wilson Fisk
!! Daredevil Friends & Foes

[[folder:Foggy Nelson]]
!!Franklin "Foggy" Nelson



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* AdaptationalJobChange: Is a private detective instead of a lawyer.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: While their exact ages aren't given, there is clearly an age gap between Foggy and Matt.



[[folder:Eliza]]
!!Eliza
!!! '''Notable Aliases:''' Bullseye Killer

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[[folder:Eliza]]
!!Eliza
[[folder:Kingpin]]
!!Kingpin
!!! '''Notable Aliases:''' Bullseye Killer'''Alter ego:''' Wilson Fisk



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* AdaptationalNameChange: Bullseye's first name is Lester in the comics.
* BelievingTheirOwnLies: To the point that she can fool a LivingLieDetector like Matt, as she can convince herself that she is telling the truth to avoid her heart rate changing.
* CompositeCharacter: Seems to be a combination of Bullseye and Elektra, the latter of whom was famously killed by the former in the main comic universe.
* GenderFlip: The traditionally male Bullseye is turned into a woman.
* PromotedToLoveInterest: As a result of also being based on Elektra


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[[folder:Eliza]]
!!Eliza
!!! '''Notable Aliases:''' Bullseye Killer
!!!'''Species:''' Human
!!!'''First appearance:''' ''Daredevil: Noir #1'' (June 2009)
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* AdaptationalNameChange: Bullseye's first name is Lester in the comics.
* BelievingTheirOwnLies: To the point that she can fool a LivingLieDetector like Matt, as she can convince herself that she is telling the truth to avoid her heart rate changing.
* CompositeCharacter: Seems to be a combination of Bullseye and Elektra, the latter of whom was famously killed by the former in the main comic universe.
* GenderFlip: The traditionally male Bullseye is turned into a woman.
* PromotedToLoveInterest: As a result of also being based on Elektra
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[[folder:Mary Jane Watson]]
!!Mary Jane Watson

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[[folder:Mary Jane Watson]]
!!Mary Jane Watson
[[folder:Ben Urich]]
!!Ben Urich



!!!'''First appearance:''' ''Spider-Man Noir: Eyes Without A Face #1'' (December 2009)

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!!!'''First appearance:''' ''Spider-Man Noir: Eyes Without A Face ''ComicBook/SpiderManNoir #1'' (December 2009)(February 2009)

A reporter who takes Peter Parker under his guidance.



* AdaptationalPersonalityChange: Like her counterpart from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' she is more of a "girl next door" type than her original comic portrayal since she doesn't have the confidence to outright admit her interest in Peter. However by the time of ''Edge of Spider-Verse'' she seems to have become more confident.

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* AdaptationalPersonalityChange: Like her counterpart BrokenPedestal: Peter admired Urich for helping him get a job at the Bugle and for seemingly being a dedicated reporter, but learning that he accepted bribes from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' she is more of a "girl next door" type than her original comic portrayal since she doesn't have the confidence to outright admit her interest in Peter. Goblin infuriated him. However by the time of ''Edge of Spider-Verse'' she seems since Urich's last moments were trying to have become fix his mistakes [[RebuiltPedestal Peter remembers him more confident.fondly]].
* DeathByOriginStory: Downplayed as he dies after Peter gets his powers and starts fighting crime, but his death motivates Peter further into being Spider-Man.



[[folder:Robbie Robertson]]
!!Joseph Robertson

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[[folder:Robbie Robertson]]
!!Joseph Robertson
[[folder:Mary Jane Watson]]
!!Mary Jane Watson



* AdaptationalRelationshipOverhaul: He is close friends with Peter and has never met Jameson, giving them a far different relationship than in canon.
* CompositeCharacter: Seems to take the place of [[spoiler:[[ILetGwenStacyDie Gwen Stacy]], as while he doesn't die he is clearly Peter's greatest failure as Spider-Man]].
* OnlyFriend: Besides Mary Jane, Robbie is the only friend Peter is shown to have in the comics.
* YoungerAndHipper: Is roughly the same age as Peter, or at least only a little bit older.

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* AdaptationalRelationshipOverhaul: He AdaptationalPersonalityChange: Like her counterpart from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' she is close friends with Peter and has never met Jameson, giving them more of a far different relationship "girl next door" type than in canon.
* CompositeCharacter: Seems to take the place of [[spoiler:[[ILetGwenStacyDie Gwen Stacy]], as while he
her original comic portrayal since she doesn't die he is clearly Peter's greatest failure as Spider-Man]].
* OnlyFriend: Besides Mary Jane, Robbie is
have the only friend Peter is shown confidence to outright admit her interest in Peter. However by the time of ''Edge of Spider-Verse'' she seems to have in the comics.
* YoungerAndHipper: Is roughly the same age as Peter, or at least only a little bit older.
become more confident.



[[folder:J. Jonah Jameson]]
!!John Jonah Jameson

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[[folder:J. Jonah Jameson]]
!!John Jonah Jameson
[[folder:Robbie Robertson]]
!!Joseph Robertson



!!!'''First appearance:''' ''ComicBook/SpiderManNoir #1'' (February 2009)

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!!!'''First appearance:''' ''ComicBook/SpiderManNoir ''Spider-Man Noir: Eyes Without A Face #1'' (February (December 2009)



* AdaptationalHeroism: Jameson is ''supportive'' of Spider-Man in this version and is determined to make people aware of how terrible life is in New York.
* DecompositeCharacter: Since Robbie is roughly Peter's age and has never met Jameson, it seems their friendship in the comics was transferred to Peter.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Jameson AdaptationalRelationshipOverhaul: He is ''supportive'' of Spider-Man in this version and is determined to make people aware of how terrible life is in New York.
* DecompositeCharacter: Since Robbie is roughly Peter's age
close friends with Peter and has never met Jameson, it seems their friendship giving them a far different relationship than in canon.
* CompositeCharacter: Seems to take the place of [[spoiler:[[ILetGwenStacyDie Gwen Stacy]], as while he doesn't die he is clearly Peter's greatest failure as Spider-Man]].
* OnlyFriend: Besides Mary Jane, Robbie is the only friend Peter is shown to have
in the comics was transferred to Peter.comics.
* YoungerAndHipper: Is roughly the same age as Peter, or at least only a little bit older.



[[folder:The Goblin]]
!!The Goblin
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Norman Osborn

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[[folder:The Goblin]]
!!The Goblin
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Norman Osborn
[[folder:J. Jonah Jameson]]
!!John Jonah Jameson



* AdaptationOriginConnection: Ben Parker was killed under Osborn's orders and it was his criminal activities that led to Peter being bitten by the spider that gave him his powers.

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* AdaptationOriginConnection: Ben Parker AdaptationalHeroism: Jameson is ''supportive'' of Spider-Man in this version and is determined to make people aware of how terrible life is in New York.
* DecompositeCharacter: Since Robbie is roughly Peter's age and has never met Jameson, it seems their friendship in the comics
was killed under Osborn's orders and it was his criminal activities that led transferred to Peter being bitten by the spider that gave him his powers.Peter.



[[folder:The Enforcers]]
!!The Enforcers (Ox, Fancy Dan, Montana, Kraven the Hunter, Vulture, Chameleon)
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Raymond Bloch, Daniel Brito, Jackson Brice, Sergei Kravinoff, Adrian Toomes, Dmitri Smerdyako

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[[folder:The Enforcers]]
Goblin]]
!!The Enforcers (Ox, Fancy Dan, Montana, Kraven the Hunter, Vulture, Chameleon)
Goblin
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Raymond Bloch, Daniel Brito, Jackson Brice, Sergei Kravinoff, Adrian Toomes, Dmitri SmerdyakoNorman Osborn
!!!'''Species:''' Human




A group of thugs who work for Norman Osborn, and who all used to be in the circus, like himself.



* AdaptationOriginConnection: All the Enforcers were present and involved in the murder of Ben Parker and were also to blame for the Spider Idol being broken which unleashed the spiders with one biting Peter, making them responsible for Peter becoming Spider-Man.
* CompositeCharacter: While it was under Osborn's orders and the other Enforcers were there, Vulture was the one to kill Ben Parker while in the main universe it was Dennis Carradine.

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* AdaptationOriginConnection: All the Enforcers were present and involved in the murder of Ben Parker and were also to blame for the Spider Idol being broken which unleashed the spiders with one biting Peter, making them responsible for Peter becoming Spider-Man.
* CompositeCharacter: While it
was killed under Osborn's orders and the other Enforcers were there, Vulture was the one to kill Ben Parker while in the main universe it was Dennis Carradine.his criminal activities that led to Peter being bitten by the spider that gave him his powers.


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!!The Enforcers (Ox, Fancy Dan, Montana, Kraven the Hunter, Vulture, Chameleon)
!!! '''Alter ego:''' Raymond Bloch, Daniel Brito, Jackson Brice, Sergei Kravinoff, Adrian Toomes, Dmitri Smerdyako
!!!'''First appearance:''' ''ComicBook/SpiderManNoir #1'' (February 2009)

A group of thugs who work for Norman Osborn, and who all used to be in the circus, like himself.
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* AdaptationOriginConnection: All the Enforcers were present and involved in the murder of Ben Parker and were also to blame for the Spider Idol being broken which unleashed the spiders with one biting Peter, making them responsible for Peter becoming Spider-Man.
* CompositeCharacter: While it was under Osborn's orders and the other Enforcers were there, Vulture was the one to kill Ben Parker while in the main universe it was Dennis Carradine.
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