History Characters / LibraryOfRuinaOthers

* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Although she is The Voice, her methods for causing people to distort is to simply ask them a few questions regarding their own desires and flaws, and let that person answer for themselves. [[spoiler:Heathcliff's Distortion during Limbus Company is a direct result of her asking what he believes himself to be, and not influencing his mind either way.]]

* WalkingSpoiler: Talking about Carmen in Library of Ruina risks outing her as one of the ''de facto'' threats of the City after the White Nights, Dark Days and most likely not even the saint she was presented as in ''Lobotomy Corporation''. This, while Downplayed, is also somewhat present in "Limbus Company.". Talking about her risks outing her as the Voice before her name is dropped in a cutscene or uptie story, with Limbus Company having the biggest amount of newcomers to the series.

* NarratorAllAlong: While it has been implied throughout most of the Identity Uptie III stories in VideoGame/LimbusCompany, Dawn Office Sinclair's uptie story outright confirms that Carmen details the Mirror World Sinner's backstories. He even name drops her.

* WalkingSpoiler: Talking about Carmen in Library of Ruina risks outing her as one of the ''de facto'' threats of the City after the White Nights, Dark Days and most likely not even the saint she was presented as in ''Lobotomy Corporation''.

** While (currently) not directly involved in ''VideoGame/LimbusCompany'', the various Distortions and E.G.O users that appear in that game are directly the fault of Carmen's temptations, and is even mentioned by name in Canto IV by [[spoiler:Dongrang after he distorts.]]

* SentientCosmicForce: She has essentially ascended to something resembling one by the events of the game: a seemingly omnipresent, bodyless being who spreads chaos in the City and manipulates the Light for her own purposes. Even after the events of ''Ruina'', she's still very much active and present as Distortion phenomenoms keep happening in ''VideoGame/LimbusCompany''.

* MaddenIntoMisanthropy: The Sephirah remember Carmen as a believer in the inherent goodness of humanity, who came up with the Seed of Light plan to heal the City's 'Disease of the Mind'. But Carmen present in LibraryOfRuina loves ''Distortions'' - people falling victims to their darkest thoughts and base impulses. Unless this was her EvilPlan all along, her experiences in LobotomyCorporation changed her - or she, herself, has Distorted.

* SatanicArchetype: By the time of the events of the game, she has turned into an omnipresent being of [[LightIsNotGood pure light]] who tempts humans to give in to their base nature, turning them into inhuman monsters hell-bent on causing destruction and suffering. There's a reason why an Abnormality symbolically very close to her is the luciferian [=WhiteNight=]

* AllYourPowersCombined: As part of Keter's Floor Realization, Carmen under the guise of L Corp Angela takes on characteristics of Keter's Abnormalities, many of which played a big role in Carmen's backstory -- Bloodbath[[labelnote:*]]where Carmen committed suicide[[/labelnote]], Heart of Aspiration[[labelnote:*]]not outright stated, but it could be Carmen's own heart[[/labelnote]], Pinocchio[[labelnote:*]]unrelated to Carmen, but presumably a pointed jab at Angela for her [[BecomeARealBoy motives]] and [[BlatantLies lying nature]][[/labelnote]], the Snow Queen[[labelnote:*]]a reference to how Ayin stored Carmen's body in a cryo coffin[[/labelnote]], and the Silent Girl[[labelnote:*]]the first Abnormality Carmen and Ayin ever created[[/labelnote]].

* {{Foil}}: The Keter Realization shows that he's this to Carmen, as he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who acts cruel and has a tendency to KickTheDog... but does this because he truly wants to make a brighter future for the people of the City. By contrast, Carmen is has a HundredPercentAdorationRating but is actually the game's GreaterScopeVillain who claims that her goal of allowing everyone in the City to be their truest selves is good, but who doesn't give the slightest care to if those people's truest selves would bring thousands or millions of deaths like the Pianist. This is especially seen in Abnormalities who symbolize them, as Ayin's One Sin And Hundreds Of Good Deeds is a MirrorCharacter to Carmen's White Night.

* HundredPercentAdorationRating:
** Anyone who met and interacted with her personally seemingly ignores all common sense (as far as standards in the City go) and would solely view her as nothing short of a saint without an exception.
** In the Red Mist reception, when Angela was talking bad about Carmen in front of the fake Red Mist, she acts way more aggressively than usual, threatening Angela that she shouldn't mock her sincerity or the research laboratory's efforts.

** Of the Patron Librarians, there are only three who don't espouse love for Carmen: Binah, who didn't enter the story until after Carmen had already attempted suicide, and thus was more interested in the still-active Ayin; Hokma, who as Benjamin was far more loyal to Ayin than he ever was to Carmen; and Roland, who wasn't a part of L. Corp at all and finds the nearly universal love and adoration for Carmen ''extremely'' creepy and wrong.

** Of the Patron Librarians, there are only three who don't espouse love for Carmen: Binah, who didn't enter the story until after Carmen had already attempted suicide, and thus was more interested in the still-active Ayin; Hokma, who as Benjamin was far more loyal to Ayin than he ever was to Carmen; and Roland, who wasn't a part of L. Corp at all and finds the nearly universal love and adoration for Carmen ''extremely'' [[UncannyValley creepy and wrong]].

* {{Foil}}: To both Argalia and Roland in regards to the despair and insanity they sank into following the loss of someone they both cared deeply for and [[LivingEmotionalCrutch defined their existence by.]]
** The Keter Realization also shows that he's this to Carmen, as he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who acts cruel and has a tendency to KickTheDog... but does this because he truly wants to make a brighter future for the people of the City. By contrast, Carmen is has a HundredPercentAdorationRating but is actually the game's GreaterScopeVillain who claims that her goal of allowing everyone in the City to be their truest selves is good, but who doesn't give the slightest care to if those people's truest selves would bring thousands or millions of deaths like the Pianist. This is especially seen in Abnormalities who symbolize them, as Ayin's One Sin And Hundreds Of Good Deeds is a MirrorCharacter to Carmen's White Night.

** The Keter Realization also shows that he's this to Carmen, as he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who acts cruel and has a tendency to KickTheDog... but does this because he truly wants to make a brighter future for the people of the City. By contrast, Carmen is has a HundredPercentAdorationLevel but is actually the game's GreaterScopeVillain who claims that her goal of allowing everyone in the City to be their truest selves is good, but who doesn't give the slightest care to if those people's truest selves would bring thousands or millions of deaths like the Pianist. This is especially seen in Abnormalities who symbolize them, as Ayin's One Sin And Hundreds Of Good Deeds is a MirrorCharacter to Carmen's White Night.

* CommonMarySueTraits: The previous game consistently pushed her into the narrative as perhaps being the most infallible thing to ever exist in the lore, and while this game still portrays her similarly, it further implies that the mere ''existence'' of this trope on her makes her ''highly'' uncanny. Conventionally attractive? Check. Absolute badass both in-lore and game that rivals some of the strongest beings lore wise, yet without lifting a finger? Check. Unique powers not seen in any other characters? Check. So incredibly charismatic that this is a large part of her character? Check. Relevantly connected to the most important characters and events in the story and has manipulated them to some degree? Check. Genius and frighteningly competent in everything she does? Check. Mysterious and vast background? Check. Unusual eyes? Check. Powerful when fought to the point that Angela needs a SuicideAttack to defeat her in gameplay? Check.
** It should be noted that, of the Patron Librarians, there are only three who don't espouse love for Carmen: Binah, who didn't enter the story until after Carmen had already attempted suicide, and thus was more interested in the still-active Ayin; Hokma, who as Benjamin was far more loyal to Ayin than he ever was to Carmen; and Roland, who wasn't a part of L. Corp at all and finds the nearly universal love and adoration for Carmen ''extremely'' [[UncannyValley creepy and wrong]].

* DarkMessiah: A tragic example. She still most likely had her initial noble intent, but presumably [[JadeColoredGlasses after]] [[DespairEventHorizon slitting her wrists over killing Enoch and being extracted by her colleague]], Carmen started to save the City by making every other person "love their true selves". Unfortunately, when the true selves of a whole chunk of people in the City are textbook sociopaths or just AxCrazy, this becomes an invitation for disaster. Even if said person is still remotely sane or determined at heart and manifests an E.G.O. instead, the destructive power of many E.G.O. (the Library being an example itself) will result in unparalleled destruction. Fittingly, she shares a lot with the known DarkMessiah [=WhiteNight=], down to having no documented negative side.

* MagneticHero: Carmen, when she still had a physical form could convince almost anyone to join her cause just by interacting with them. Notably, even after her former co-workers are converted into Sephirot and Librarian [=AIs=], they are still very loyal to her cause and view her as a saintly existence and a paragon.

** As the Will of the Library she was also implied to invoke this to attract new guests. If the Library lets anyone escape, it's because they can lure out more victims in its stead. It's best seen in the E.G.O. user arc where Phillip's CowardlyLion tendencies and his unrequited love interest relationship with Yuna was talking advantage of by the Library to redirect him to Oswald's lair so he can break him. The Will of the Library then purposefully re-released him so Argalia could find him and Lowell can be booked to break down Xiao as well. Xiao didn't break down as intended only to be booked anyway, allowing the Reverberation Ensemble to steal the light with all opposition put out.

* CommonMarySueTraits: The previous game consistently pushed into the narrative as perhaps the most infallible thing to ever exist in the lore, and while this game still portrays her similarly, it further implies that the mere ''existence'' of this trope on her makes her ''highly'' uncanny. Conventionally attractive? Check. Absolute badass both in-lore and game that rivals some of the strongest beings lore wise, yet without lifting a finger? Check. Unique powers not seen in any other characters? Check. So incredibly charismatic that this is a large part of her character? Check. Relevantly connected to the most important characters and events in the story and has manipulated them to some degree? Check. Genius and frighteningly competent in everything she does? Check. Mysterious and vast background? Check. Unusual eyes? Check. Powerful when fought to the point that Angela needs a SuicideAttack to defeat her in gameplay? Check.