History Characters / HorizonZeroDawnTribes

19th Apr '18 12:51:28 PM Joysweeper
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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: If the final heart option in the game is chosen [[spoiler:upon Helis's defeat]], Aloy expresses pity, which is probably the most cutting thing she could do at that point anyway, and is seen closing her eyes with a pained expression.

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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: If the final heart option in the game is chosen [[spoiler:upon Helis's defeat]], Aloy expresses pity, which is probably [[DontYouDarePityMe the most cutting thing she could do do]] at that point anyway, and is seen closing her eyes with a pained expression.



* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Eclipse shows to everyone that they are not so friendly [[spoiler:when they attacked the Proving and [[LeaveNoSurvivors killing almost everyone]] ([[WouldHurtAChild mostly kids barely out of their teens]]) [[LeaveNoWitnesses for being a witness]].]]

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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Eclipse shows to everyone that they are not so friendly [[spoiler:when they attacked the Proving and [[LeaveNoSurvivors killing almost everyone]] ([[WouldHurtAChild mostly kids barely out of in their teens]]) [[LeaveNoWitnesses for being a witness]].]] ]]
* ReligionOfEvil: The Eclipse is serving [[spoiler: what they believe is]] the Buried Shadow, literally the Satan-analogue in Carja scripture, in the belief that sometimes the shadow can do what the sun cannot, in this case retake holy Meridian from the Sun Carja.



* CreepyBlueEyes: His pale blue-gray eyes seen from up close just add to how alarming his appearance is.



* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: He had a wife once. She died in childbirth, along with their child, prior to Avad overthrowing Jiran and Helis leading the Shadow Carja into exile. One of his few displays of sentimentality is keeping a recording where he reminisces about his wedding night.

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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: He had a wife once. She died in childbirth, along with their child, prior to Avad overthrowing Jiran and Helis leading the Shadow Carja into exile. One of his few displays of sentimentality is keeping a recording where he reminisces about his wedding night.night - though since this is ''Helis'', this reminiscence is still creepy and how loving they were is in doubt.



* EvilSoundsDeep: He's the main human antagonist and has the deepest voice in the game.
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler:If you choose the empathetic option, he'll express outrage that Aloy pities him, but when she tells him to turn his face toward the sun, he'll do so calmly before she delivers the final blow.]]

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* EvilSoundsDeep: He's the main human antagonist and has the deepest human voice in the game.
* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler:If you choose the empathetic option, he'll express outrage be outraged that Aloy pities him, but when she tells him to turn his face toward the sun, he'll do so calmly before she delivers the final blow.blow. Not really the case with the other options.]]



* TheUnfought: You don't actually fight him himself, just the three guards he brings. When they're gone, he's killed without a struggle in a cutscene [[spoiler: by Uthid.]]



* DefectorFromDecadence: Automatically became one after turning over a serial killer, who was instantly exonerated by High Priest Bahavas, who was actually the mastermind behind the killings and attempted to kill Uthid.

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* DefectorFromDecadence: Automatically became one after turning over a serial killer, who was instantly exonerated by High Priest Bahavas, who was actually the mastermind behind the killings and attempted to kill Uthid. Bahavas's people ''did'' kill Uthid's men, which grieves Uthid.
18th Apr '18 10:27:07 PM Doodler
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* PerpetualSmiler

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* PerpetualSmilerPerpetualSmiler: He's rarely if ever seen unhappy. It may simply be his diplomatic training, but it might also be relief at getting to serve Avad rather than his bloodthirsty father.
13th Apr '18 8:03:39 PM Joysweeper
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* LadyOfWar: She's the War-Chief of the Nora and is usually calm and composed.

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* LadyOfWar: She's the War-Chief of the Nora and is usually calm and composed.composed, if harsh.



* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Varl replaces his sister Vala, who was killed by the Eclipse, and befriends Aloy. He's humbler and less openly friendly than his sister, but less reserved and formal than his mother.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Varl replaces his sister Vala, who was killed by the Eclipse, and befriends Aloy. He's humbler and less openly friendly than his sister, but less reserved reserved, formal, and formal harsh than his mother.



* {{Revenge:}} Her motivation for leaving the Sacred Lands.

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* {{Revenge:}} {{Revenge}}: Her motivation for leaving the Sacred Lands.



** [[WordOfGod The Collector's Edition guide]] states that this is also his biggest flaw. Avad can make hard choices but not ruthless ones, like wiping out the insurgent Shadow Carja.



* TheSpymaster: He see himself as a "good listener" who listens to helpful voices in the Sundom and beyond.

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* TheSpymaster: He see himself as a "good listener" who listens to helpful voices in the Sundom and beyond. According to the collector's edition guide, he trained Vanasha.


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* {{Foil}}: He and Helis were both terrors in the Red Raids, killing people and capturing others to send to die in the Sun-Ring, but Zaid stayed with the Sun-Carja and Helis was loyal to Jiran and went to the Shadow. Zaid mutilated people, retains a keen interest in capturing them for his own ends, and is skilled at dissembling and misdirection, wheras Helis is more of a zealot thug.
10th Apr '18 9:58:02 AM rmctagg09
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* BackForTheFinale: Unlike the other Nora [[spoiler: at Meridian, except for outcast Nakoa, he's doesn't seem dramatically stressed at being in this strange location and has apparently had friendly conversations with several Carja, trying to explain Stitchers to them and being made an honorary quartermaster.]]

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* BackForTheFinale: Unlike the other Nora [[spoiler: at [[spoiler:at Meridian, except for outcast Nakoa, he's he doesn't seem dramatically stressed at being in this strange location and has apparently had friendly conversations with several Carja, trying to explain Stitchers to them and being made an honorary quartermaster.]]



* TeethGrittedTeamwork: In the finale, [[spoiler: she ''hates'' being in 'tainted' lands surrounded by godless people and refuses an audience with the Sun-King, though she doesn't bar the people she led to Meridian from talking to all Carja.]] She still sees the need to be there.

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* TeethGrittedTeamwork: TeethClenchedTeamwork: In the finale, [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she ''hates'' being in 'tainted' lands surrounded by godless people and refuses an audience with the Sun-King, though she doesn't bar the people she led to Meridian from talking to all Carja.]] She still sees the need to be there.



* TeethGrittedTeamwork: Like Sona he's deeply uncomfortable in the finale [[spoiler: being so far from everything he knows and around such foreign people]], he's just less intense about it and can apply more perspective.

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* TeethGrittedTeamwork: TeethClenchedTeamwork: Like Sona he's deeply uncomfortable in the finale [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being so far from everything he knows and around such foreign people]], he's just less intense about it and can apply more perspective.



* BackForTheFinale: Happy to help, stating that [[spoiler: Helis]] is much like Zaid and was nearly as feared during the Red Raids.

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* BackForTheFinale: Happy to help, stating that [[spoiler: Helis]] [[spoiler:Helis]] is much like Zaid and was nearly as feared during the Red Raids.



* BackForTheFinale: [[spoiler: Avad offered any prisoners willing to fight for Meridian [[BoxedCrook their freedom]] and they all accepted, so Janeva and all his guards took them there.]]

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* BackForTheFinale: [[spoiler: Avad [[spoiler:Avad offered any prisoners willing to fight for Meridian [[BoxedCrook their freedom]] and they all accepted, so Janeva and all his guards took them there.]]
9th Apr '18 2:31:35 PM Joysweeper
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* BackForTheFinale: Unlike the other Nora [[spoiler: at Meridian, except for outcast Nakoa, he's doesn't seem dramatically stressed at being in this strange location and has apparently had friendly conversations with several Carja, trying to explain Stitchers to them and being made an honorary quartermaster.]]



* TeethGrittedTeamwork: In the finale, [[spoiler: she ''hates'' being in 'tainted' lands surrounded by godless people and refuses an audience with the Sun-King, though she doesn't bar the people she led to Meridian from talking to all Carja.]] She still sees the need to be there.



* TeethGrittedTeamwork: Like Sona he's deeply uncomfortable in the finale [[spoiler: being so far from everything he knows and around such foreign people]], he's just less intense about it and can apply more perspective.



* YouCantGoHomeAgain: After killing Zaid, she cannot go back to the Nora because she is considered exiled for leaving in the first place. She claims she doesn't mind and doesn't want to go back anyway, and focuses on helping victims from Zaid's slave trade. [[spoiler:Apparently some of this was sour grapes and trying to make the best of her situation. In the endgame she's heard about the Nora opening up their borders somewhat and is excited and happy at the prospect of coming home.]]

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* BackForTheFinale: Happy to help, stating that [[spoiler: Helis]] is much like Zaid and was nearly as feared during the Red Raids.
* {{Revenge:}} Her motivation for leaving the Sacred Lands.
* YouCantGoHomeAgain: After killing Zaid, she cannot go back to the Nora because she is considered exiled for leaving in the first place. She claims she doesn't mind and doesn't want to go back anyway, and focuses on helping victims from Zaid's slave trade. [[spoiler:Apparently some of this was sour grapes and trying to make the best of her situation. In the endgame she's heard about the Nora opening up their borders somewhat and is excited and happy at the prospect of coming home.home and seeing her brother again.]]



* ThemeNaming: Generally speaking, men's names end in a consonant and womens' names end in a vowel or a vowel sound, but there are exceptions.



* BackForTheFinale: [[spoiler: Avad offered any prisoners willing to fight for Meridian [[BoxedCrook their freedom]] and they all accepted, so Janeva and all his guards took them there.]]



Carja who were loyal to the Mad Sun-King and are currently based in Sunfall. The Eclipse is a cult comprised of soldiers fanatical to the cause and seek to resurrect and control long-dead machines to one day retake Meridian from Sun-King Avad.

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Carja who were loyal to the Mad Sun-King and are currently based in Sunfall. The Eclipse is a cult comprised of Shadow Carja soldiers fanatical to the cause and seek to resurrect and control long-dead machines to one day retake Meridian from Sun-King Avad.



* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Averted; the game makes clear that there are plenty of Shadow Carja citizens, even Shadow Carja soldiers, who're good and decent people. They just happened to pick the wrong side or had the misfortune of already living in territory that the Shadow Carja would come to control.

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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Averted; Averted with the Shadow Carja; the game makes clear that there are plenty of Shadow Carja citizens, even some Shadow Carja soldiers, who're good and decent people. They just happened to pick the wrong side or had the misfortune of already living in territory that the Shadow Carja would come to control.
** The ''Eclipse'' is basically all evil or conscripts, but then, it ''is'' a cult. You can tell the difference because if Aloy ventures into a Shadow Carja outpost the soldiers will say colder, ruder things to her than the generally indifferent Sun Carja in similar outposts. If she ventures into an ''Eclipse'' outpost they immediately start to shoot at her.



* DarkIsEvil: Sun-Carja respect TheSacredDarkness, and after the revolution in Meridian Jiran's loyalists took that darkness and ran this way. Believing that the death of the Sun-King led to a spiritual night, nearly everything about them has a darkness motif. Outsiders call them the Shadow Carja, they call themselves the Eclipse, they wear black clothes and armor, and they're the primary enemies of the game. They also control the pitch-black Corruptors and Deathbringers, as well as corrupted machines.
* DyingTown: Sunfall was once the Sun-King's summer palace, and its inside is still beautiful and well-built, but this is a desert, and its prosperity was dependent on imported food and supplies. The settlement is surrounded by a tent city of impoverished refugees and commoners who get to watch most of what resources the Shadow Carja have get taken by the wealthy.

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* DarkIsEvil: Sun-Carja Carja respect TheSacredDarkness, and after the revolution in Meridian Jiran's loyalists took that darkness and ran this way.embraced it. Believing that the death of the Sun-King led to a spiritual night, nearly everything about them has a darkness motif. Outsiders call them From their ranks comes the Shadow Carja, they call themselves cult of the Eclipse, they who definitely run this way. Shadow Carja wear black clothes and armor, armor. The Eclipse, who take the color scheme further and they're wear different but still dark clothing, are the primary enemies of the game. They also control the pitch-black Corruptors and Deathbringers, as well as corrupted machines.
* DyingTown: Sunfall was once the Sun-King's summer palace, and its inside is still beautiful and well-built, but this is a desert, and its prosperity was dependent on imported food and supplies. The settlement is surrounded by a tent city of impoverished refugees and commoners who get to watch most of what resources the Shadow Carja have get taken by the wealthy. Opinions closer to Meridian are that Avad pities them too much and that's why there's an uneasy truce at the start of the game.



* IronicEcho: He tells Aloy to turn her face towards the sun before attempting to execute her at the beginning of the game. At the end of the game [[spoiler:Aloy echoes it back at him just before killing him. Depending on your dialogue choice she either does this out of pity and sincere respect for his faith - she even waits until he does so - or as a angry taunt.]]

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* IronicEcho: He tells Aloy to turn her face towards the sun before attempting to execute her at the beginning of the game. At the end of the game [[spoiler:Aloy echoes it back at him just before killing him. in his last moment. Depending on your dialogue choice she either does this out of pity and sincere respect for his faith - she and even waits until he does so turn his face to stab him - or as a angry taunt.taunt after stabbing him.]]



* AChildShallLeadThem: Uthid explains that even though Itamen is a child, he's innocent and pure; not deranged like the old Sun-King or guilty of patricide like the new one. However, this make him easy to control by the true rulers of the Shadow Carja.

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* AChildShallLeadThem: Uthid explains that even though Itamen is a child, he's innocent and pure; not deranged like the old Sun-King or guilty of patricide like the new one.one, and that's why Uthid himself, a comparatively kind and honorable Carja, went to Sunfall. However, this make him easy to control by the true rulers of the Shadow Carja.


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* BackForTheFinale: Though she's there even if Aloy never met her.


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* BackForTheFinale: She's the most prominent of the optionally recruited characters.
9th Apr '18 12:29:23 PM rmctagg09
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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: If the final heart option in the game is chosen [[spoiler: upon Helis's defeat]], Aloy expresses pity, which is probably the most cutting thing she could do at that point anyway, and is seen closing her eyes with a pained expression.

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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: If the final heart option in the game is chosen [[spoiler: upon [[spoiler:upon Helis's defeat]], Aloy expresses pity, which is probably the most cutting thing she could do at that point anyway, and is seen closing her eyes with a pained expression.



* BeliefMakesYouStupid: Played with. While the Nora's religion means the High Matriarchs are incredibly superstitious and distrustful of any of the Old Ones' technology, Teersa's faithful lens and willingness to listen allows her to correctly intuit how Aloy can overcome a core obstacle [[AchievementsInIgnorance despite having no idea how it works]].

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* BeliefMakesYouStupid: Played with.Zigzagged. While the Nora's religion means the High Matriarchs are incredibly superstitious and distrustful of any of the Old Ones' technology, Teersa's faithful lens and willingness to listen allows her to correctly intuit how Aloy can overcome a core obstacle [[AchievementsInIgnorance despite having no idea how it works]].



* NiceMeanAndInBetween: Jezza is the in-between. She's not exactly sure what to think of Aloy, and doesn't treat her with the same level of loving kindness as Teersa, nor the same level of scorn as Lansra. After Aloy is declared [[spoiler: the Annointed]] she simply says of Aloy's original outcast status, "We were so unsure."

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* NiceMeanAndInBetween: Jezza is the in-between. She's not exactly sure what to think of Aloy, and doesn't treat her with the same level of loving kindness as Teersa, nor the same level of scorn as Lansra. After Aloy is declared [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Annointed]] she simply says of Aloy's original outcast status, "We were so unsure."



* AmbiguousDisorder: Even before [[spoiler: her capture]], she felt disconnected from her tribe, as CYAN notes. Later she shows a level of social ineptness. While trying to thank Aloy she says something that she realizes sounds insulting, retracts it, and is grateful when Aloy gets to the point.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Even before [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her capture]], she felt disconnected from her tribe, as CYAN notes. Later she shows a level of social ineptness. While trying to thank Aloy she says something that she realizes sounds insulting, retracts it, and is grateful when Aloy gets to the point.
8th Apr '18 11:20:03 PM fdsa1234567890
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* AmazonChaser: He is one of several characters that shows an interest in Aloy, largely because of rather than in spite of her combat skills.
8th Apr '18 9:39:48 PM Joysweeper
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* FriendlessBackground: As an outcast, the only person Aloy could ever consider as a friend was her adoptive dad Rost.

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* FriendlessBackground: As an outcast, the only person Aloy could ever consider as a friend was her adoptive dad Rost. One single trader will speak to her when no one else can see them, and she's consistently irritated about that.



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Aloy is pretty blunt and sarcastic and far from the cuddliest young woman around, but she'll help even complete strangers without a second thought and can show a surprising amount of empathy towards other people.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: JerkassFacade: Aloy is pretty can be blunt and sarcastic and far from the cuddliest young woman around, sarcastic, but she'll help even complete strangers without a second thought and can show a surprising amount of empathy towards other people.people. How she treats people socially largely depends on how they treat her, she may say sarcastic things to respectful people at times, but is generally kind.



* KnightInSourArmor: Aloy does little to mask her disdain for all the various tribes and how they value tradition over common sense, but it doesn't take much for her to come running to help them at the first sign of trouble.

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* KnightInSourArmor: Aloy does little to mask her disdain for all the various when tribes and how they value tradition over common sense, sense or empathy, but it doesn't take much for her to come running to help them at the first sign of trouble.



** Inverted. Due to the matriarchal nature of the Nora, no one, not even Aloy, cares about who her father might have been and her lack of identity is due to her being motherless. She spends most of her life training to ask the Matriarchs who her mother was, and while her main quest is to end the threat plaguing the tribes her personal quest is to find her mother. It's quite a GutPunch when you consider who her biological father really is: [[spoiler:Elisabet's dad, never mentioned in-universe and has already been dead for a thousand years.]]

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** Inverted. Due to the matriarchal nature of the Nora, no one, not even Aloy, cares about who her father might have been and her lack of identity is due to her being motherless. Late in the game the most hostile of the High Matriarchs claims her father is the Metal Devil, but is brushed aside. She spends most of her life training to ask the Matriarchs who her mother was, and while her main quest is to end the threat plaguing the tribes her personal quest is to find her mother. It's quite a GutPunch when you consider who her biological father really is: [[spoiler:Elisabet's dad, never mentioned in-universe and has already been dead for a thousand years.]]



* ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: As someone who was an outcast her entire life just because of her lack of a mother, Aloy has zero respect for the law forbidding contact with outcasts and willingly talks with and assists them.

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* ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: As someone who was an outcast her entire life just because of her lack of a mother, Aloy has zero respect for the law forbidding contact with outcasts and willingly talks with and assists them.them and encourages people who start questioning harsh laws. Among the Banuk, she readily encourages tribesfolk who themselves start to ask these questions.



* TheSnarkKnight: Wherever she got [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKcqtOgNAQQ her sass]], it certainly wasn't from Rost. Sylens is particularly not amused as Aloy searches through the ruins of the [[spoiler:Zero Dawn facilities]], calling her attitude "whining" and childish "temper tantrums."

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* TheSnarkKnight: Wherever she got [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKcqtOgNAQQ her sass]], it certainly wasn't from Rost. Sylens is particularly not amused as Aloy searches through the ruins of the [[spoiler:Zero Dawn facilities]], calling her attitude pain over her origins "whining" and childish her furious responses "temper tantrums."



* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: If the final heart option in the game is chosen [[spoiler: upon Helis's defeat]], Aloy expresses pity, which is probably the most cutting thing she could do at that point anyway, and is seen closing her eyes with a pained expression.



* BeliefMakesYouStupid: Played with. While the Nora's religion means the High Matriarchs are incredibly superstitious and distrustful of any of the Old Ones' technology, Teersa's faithful lens allows her to correctly intuit how Aloy can overcome a core obstacle [[AchievementsInIgnorance despite having no idea how it works]].

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* BeliefMakesYouStupid: Played with. While the Nora's religion means the High Matriarchs are incredibly superstitious and distrustful of any of the Old Ones' technology, Teersa's faithful lens and willingness to listen allows her to correctly intuit how Aloy can overcome a core obstacle [[AchievementsInIgnorance despite having no idea how it works]].



* {{Matriarchy}}: Ruled by a council of High Matriarchs. Nora matriarchs are specifically grandmothers, and High Matriarchs are great-grandmothers, because Nora want their leaders to be able to speak for generations. Men and women without children aren't barred from positions of responsibility and respect, though.

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* {{Matriarchy}}: Ruled by a council of High Matriarchs. Nora matriarchs are specifically grandmothers, and High Matriarchs are great-grandmothers, because Nora want their leaders to be able to speak for generations. Men and women without children aren't barred from positions of responsibility and respect, though.though, as temporary War-Chief Resh proves.



* TheHermit: He lives by himself, but that doesn't mean he couldn't visit the Nora village.

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* TheHermit: He lives by himself, but that doesn't mean he couldn't can't visit the nearby Nora village.village. That he's so paranoid that someone will see him speaking to Aloy certainly suggests that he's in frequent contact.



* NiceMeanAndInBetween: Jezza is the in-between. She's not exactly sure what to think of Aloy, and doesn't treat her with the same level of loving kindness as Teersa, nor the same level of scorn as Lansra.

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* NiceMeanAndInBetween: Jezza is the in-between. She's not exactly sure what to think of Aloy, and doesn't treat her with the same level of loving kindness as Teersa, nor the same level of scorn as Lansra. After Aloy is declared [[spoiler: the Annointed]] she simply says of Aloy's original outcast status, "We were so unsure."



* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Varl replaces his sister Vala, who was killed by the Eclipse, and befriends Aloy.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Varl replaces his sister Vala, who was killed by the Eclipse, and befriends Aloy. He's humbler and less openly friendly than his sister, but less reserved and formal than his mother.



* ReligiousBruiser: A very devout Nora who will ''bend'' certain rules (acting as an infant's mother when it's time to name her, whistling to signal some tribesfolk but not openly talking to them, "Survive") but believes in them utterly. This puts him in some conflict with Aloy, who's hurt and frustrated by many of the things that he quietly accepts and supports.



* AllHailTheGreatGodMickey: Their religion springs from concepts found hundreds of years ago in a long-gone textbook about the sun. Apart from the sun being utterly essential to life, everything they might have learned from it has become unrecognizably altered.
* CruelAndUnusualDeath: Traditional punishments and 'trials' always involve being staked out in the hot sun for days. Avad has instated a prison program that he hopes will rehabilitate criminals instead.



* WalkingShirtlessScene: Many of the men walk around with partially bare chests. Considering they live in a desert, it's not unjustified.

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* TheSacredDarkness: While Sun-Carja much prefer sun to shadow, their scripture also prescribes a certain reverence for it. They see night and day as life and death, that the night of the Old Ones led to their dawn and that eventually their day will end as well. The Sun and Shadow are the two halves of nature and to deny one is to deny both.
* WalkingShirtlessScene: Many of the men walk around with partially bare chests.chests and bared backs. Considering they live in a desert, it's not unjustified.



* DidTheyOrDidntThey: Although he explains the Carja nobles wouldn't accept their king taking an Oseram woman for a wife, it's kept purposefully ambiguous what kind of relationship Avad and Ersa really had. It's brought up by enough characters to warrant the question.

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* DidTheyOrDidntThey: Although he explains the Carja nobles wouldn't accept their king taking an Oseram woman for a wife, it's kept purposefully ambiguous what kind of relationship Avad and Ersa really had. It's brought up by enough characters to warrant the question. question, and depending on choices Aloy can bring this up to his face, at which point he backs down, greatly flustered. The Collector's Edition hardback states that they were intimate, but they apparently kept it hidden enough that Ersa's brother and coworker is uncertain Avad was even her type.



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* BigDamnHeroes: [[spoiler:If you don't kill him]], Nil will appear in Meridian to aid in the final battle. His behavior suggests that he's temporarily restrained his bloodlust to defend Aloy.

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* BigDamnHeroes: [[spoiler:If you don't kill him]], Nil will appear in Meridian to aid in the final battle. His behavior suggests that he's temporarily restrained his bloodlust to defend Aloy.Aloy, or at least convinced himself that machine demons will be more interesting than normal machines.



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* GoodScarsEvilScars: A cheek scar pulls Janeva's mouth into a constant, sardonic-looking half smile.



* PrisonersWork: When Aloy goes to Sunstone Rock the prison is in lockdown just after a violent escape, but there are crop fields around it, and a prisoner wistfully asks when they'll be let out to work on the farms again.

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* PrisonersWork: When Aloy goes to Sunstone Rock the prison is in lockdown just after a violent escape, but there are crop fields around it, and a prisoner wistfully asks when they'll be let out to work on the farms again. Before the final battle, Janeva also boasts that all their dawn drills have helped their pre-battle discipline.



Carja who were loyal to the Mad Sun-King and are currently residing in Sunfall. The Eclipse is a cult comprised of soldiers fanatical to the cause and seek to resurrect and control long-dead machines to one day retake Meridian from Sun-King Avad.

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Carja who were loyal to the Mad Sun-King and are currently residing based in Sunfall. The Eclipse is a cult comprised of soldiers fanatical to the cause and seek to resurrect and control long-dead machines to one day retake Meridian from Sun-King Avad.



* DarkIsEvil: Nearly everything about them has a darkness motif. Outsiders call them the Shadow Carja, they call themselves the Eclipse, they wear black clothes and armor, and they're the primary enemies of the game. They also control the pitch-black Corruptors and Deathbringers, as well as corrupted machines.

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* DarkIsEvil: Nearly Sun-Carja respect TheSacredDarkness, and after the revolution in Meridian Jiran's loyalists took that darkness and ran this way. Believing that the death of the Sun-King led to a spiritual night, nearly everything about them has a darkness motif. Outsiders call them the Shadow Carja, they call themselves the Eclipse, they wear black clothes and armor, and they're the primary enemies of the game. They also control the pitch-black Corruptors and Deathbringers, as well as corrupted machines.
* DyingTown: Sunfall was once the Sun-King's summer palace, and its inside is still beautiful and well-built, but this is a desert, and its prosperity was dependent on imported food and supplies. The settlement is surrounded by a tent city of impoverished refugees and commoners who get to watch most of what resources the Shadow Carja have get taken by the wealthy.



* IronicEcho: He tells Aloy to turn her face towards the sun before attempting to execute her at the beginning of the game. At the end of the game [[spoiler:Aloy echoes it back at him just before killing him. Depending on your dialogue choice she either does this out of sincere respect for his faith, or as a angry taunt.]]

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* IronicEcho: He tells Aloy to turn her face towards the sun before attempting to execute her at the beginning of the game. At the end of the game [[spoiler:Aloy echoes it back at him just before killing him. Depending on your dialogue choice she either does this out of pity and sincere respect for his faith, faith - she even waits until he does so - or as a angry taunt.]]



* SocialDarwinist: He arranges for assassins to secretly murder old and sick citizens living under Shadow Carja rule in an effort to weed out the weak.

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* SocialDarwinist: He arranges for assassins to secretly murder old and sick citizens living under Shadow Carja rule rule, [[KillThePoor especially the ones in the refugee camp]], in an effort to weed out the weak.



* NiceToTheWaiter: Fed orphans out of his own rations and punished soldiers who abused the refugees.



* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: After Aloy saves Uthid from the bounty hunters, Vanasha arrives and claims that she helped by completely eliminating another band of bounty hunters on her own - Aloy can meet them, Nora outcasts who claim they'll kill Nora for free - to prevent them from joining the fight.

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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: After Aloy saves Uthid from the bounty hunters, Vanasha arrives and claims states that she helped by completely eliminating another band of bounty hunters on her own - Aloy can meet met them, Nora outcasts who claim they'll kill Nora for free - to prevent them from joining the fight.



* StayInTheKitchen: Apparently the Oseram of the Claim (their homeland) have this attitude; "Women know their place in the Claim" is advice the tribal elders gave one Oseram man Aloy meets. Outside the Claim, this is apparently much less of an issue.

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* StayInTheKitchen: Apparently the Oseram of the Claim (their homeland) have this attitude; "Women know their place in the Claim" is advice the tribal elders gave one Oseram man Aloy meets. Outside the Claim, this is apparently much less of an issue.issue, as multiple women have left with leadership or just getting away from these expectations as part of their motivation.



* ArcVillain: His threat is completely unrelated to [[spoiler:Helis and [=HADES=]]], but his plot to assassinate Avad and destroy Meridian still drives several missions in the main plot.

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* ArcVillain: His threat is completely unrelated to [[spoiler:Helis and [=HADES=]]], [=HADES=], except in the roundabout way where what caused HADES to be a threat also caused the machines to become deranged and Jiran to become obsessed with ritual slaughter and kill Dervahl's family]], but his plot to assassinate Avad and destroy Meridian still drives several missions in the main plot.



* HufflepuffHouse: They're the least plot-relevant tribe in the game to have any prominence; while there is one major character who is a member, he is an individualist through and through, and appears to have absolutely concern for his tribe's culture or people. The DLC ''The Frozen Wilds'' [[ADayInTheLimelight gives them more focus]].

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* HufflepuffHouse: They're the least plot-relevant tribe in the game to have any prominence; while there is one major character who is a member, he is an individualist through and through, and appears to have absolutely no concern for his tribe's culture or people. The DLC ''The Frozen Wilds'' [[ADayInTheLimelight gives them more focus]].focus]], though it also raises the question of whether that one major character is ''actually'' a Banuk.



* TheAtoner: Part of the reason why he helps Aloy is to [[spoiler:help atone for the fact that he was the original founder of Eclipse before he learned HADES' true intentions.]]

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* TheAtoner: Part of the reason why he helps Aloy is to [[spoiler:help atone for the fact that he was the original founder of Eclipse before he learned HADES' true intentions.]]]] He's not remotely concerned about the harm he helped cause though, and when Aloy claims he is this he dismisses it.



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Downplayed. Even though he's not particularly social and is Aloy's most mysterious and morally ambiguous ally, there are occasions where Sylens' conscience just shines through. But [[spoiler:his final conversation with Aloy before the two of them part ways has him reveal that he would do what he did all over again, despite the suffering and destruction his actions caused, showing that at the end of the day, he's just as arrogant as Eclipse when it comes to consorting with powers he cannot hope to control, as befitting its founder]].

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Downplayed. Even though he's not particularly social and is Aloy's most mysterious and morally ambiguous ally, there are occasions where Sylens' conscience just shines through. He's slightly less abrasive in person. But [[spoiler:his final conversation with Aloy before the two of them part ways has him reveal that he would do what he did all over again, despite the suffering and destruction his actions caused, showing that at the end of the day, he's just as arrogant as Eclipse when it comes to consorting with powers he cannot hope to control, as befitting its founder]].



* LackOfEmpathy: He really doesn't have much concern for anyone else. Aloy actually has a chance to call him out on it at one point. He apologizes to her once for [[spoiler:being cruelly honest about the fact that Aloy was born from a machine]] and says he hopes for her [[spoiler:to actually find a human mother waiting for her instead, even though he pretty much knows that behind the vault's door no more humans can be alive.]]

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* LackOfEmpathy: He really doesn't have much concern for anyone else. Aloy actually has a chance to call him out on it at one point. He apologizes to her once for [[spoiler:being cruelly honest about the fact that Aloy was born from a machine]] and says he hopes for her [[spoiler:to actually find a human mother waiting for her instead, even though he pretty much knows that behind the vault's door no more humans can be alive. And even though when she actually finds her answers and is stricken, he mocks her anguish.]]



* MeaningfulName: [[SilenceTropes Silence]], duh. Only HADES, the Eclipse, the Banuk hierarchs, and Aloy know of his very existence.

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* MeaningfulName: [[SilenceTropes Silence]], duh.duh, as Aloy lampshades. Only HADES, the Eclipse, the Banuk hierarchs, and Aloy know of his very existence.



* PetTheDog: Every now and then he will treat Aloy with some semblance of kindness. At one point he'll apologize for being overly cruel to her after [[spoiler:she found out the truth of her parentage.]] Later, he'll offer Aloy his condolences once they discover [[spoiler:what happened to Elisabet]], though this one takes some prompting from Aloy beforehand.
* PragmaticVillainy: Sylens's ultimate allegiance is solely to knowledge, and he's willing to commit some seriously questionable acts pursuing this goal (including [[spoiler:being the original founder of Eclipse]]). However, he's rational, unlike Helis, and fully recognizes that global genocide is no good for anybody and immediately acts to oppose it.

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* PetTheDog: Every now and then he will treat Aloy with some semblance of kindness. At one point he'll apologize for being overly cruel to her after [[spoiler:she found as she starts [[spoiler:to find out the truth of her parentage.parentage, though when she ''actually'' finds out he's immediately cruel again.]] Later, he'll offer Aloy his condolences once they discover [[spoiler:what happened to Elisabet]], though this one takes some prompting from Aloy beforehand.
* PragmaticVillainy: Sylens's ultimate allegiance is solely to knowledge, and he's willing to commit some seriously questionable acts pursuing this goal (including [[spoiler:being the original founder of Eclipse]]).Eclipse. Even though he saw the murders in the Sun-Ring as abhorrent he was completely willing to work with and use the people who were behind it and continued the practice.]]). However, he's rational, unlike Helis, and fully recognizes that global genocide is no good for anybody and immediately acts to oppose it.



* BrokenBird: [[spoiler:She was left deeply traumatized from her time as a prisoner of the Shadow Carja, who forced her to gather machines for the Sun-Ring, where innocents would be sacrificed ''en masse''. It left her unable to connect with her fellow Banuk.]]

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Even before [[spoiler: her capture]], she felt disconnected from her tribe, as CYAN notes. Later she shows a level of social ineptness. While trying to thank Aloy she says something that she realizes sounds insulting, retracts it, and is grateful when Aloy gets to the point.
* BrokenBird: [[spoiler:She was left deeply traumatized from her time as a prisoner of the Shadow Carja, who forced her to gather machines for the Sun-Ring, where innocents would be sacrificed ''en masse''. It left her unable She already struggled to connect with her fellow Banuk.Banuk, but this didn't help.]]


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* TheSacredDarkness: Agricultural to the extent of seeing life as coming from death.
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** In one cutscene of 'The Frozen Wilds' he [[spoiler:manages to not only catch a falling Aloy one-handed, but 'throw her above his head.' Dude is strong.]]

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** In one cutscene of 'The ''The Frozen Wilds' Wilds'' he [[spoiler:manages to not only catch a falling Aloy one-handed, but 'throw ''throw her above his head.' '' Dude is strong.]]
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** In one cutscene of 'The Frozen Wilds' he [[spoiler:manages to not only catch a falling Aloy one-handed, but 'throw her above his head.' Dude is strong.]]
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