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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Albia, a practically immortal PhysicalGoddess and RealityWarper, [[NothingIsScarier never talked about]] what she found when investigating territories abandoned by them as the ice receded. When she sends a British expeditionary fleet to escort Agatha back to Mechanicsburg, they are also tasked specifically with helping Gil's forces fight the Polar Lords, showing that she views them as even more of a threat than the Other.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: HorrifyingTheHorror:
** Albia, a practically immortal PhysicalGoddess and RealityWarper, [[NothingIsScarier never talked about]] what she found when investigating territories abandoned by them as the ice receded. When she sends a British expeditionary fleet to escort Agatha back to Mechanicsburg, they are also tasked specifically with helping Gil's forces fight the Polar Lords, showing that she views them as even more of a threat than the Other.
** Conversely, one of their number refers to ''Agatha'' as a horror, though in a manner which [[VillainRespect almost seems to be a compliment]].
** Albia, a practically immortal PhysicalGoddess and RealityWarper, [[NothingIsScarier never talked about]] what she found when investigating territories abandoned by them as the ice receded. When she sends a British expeditionary fleet to escort Agatha back to Mechanicsburg, they are also tasked specifically with helping Gil's forces fight the Polar Lords, showing that she views them as even more of a threat than the Other.
** Conversely, one of their number refers to ''Agatha'' as a horror, though in a manner which [[VillainRespect almost seems to be a compliment]].
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* TooDumbtoLive: The Polar Lord thinks this of Ixthaliox for failing to cut and run when Agatha arrived.
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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: The concept of "moral ambiguity" seems entirely lost on Othar. In his mind, ''all'' Sparks are irredeemably evil folks who must ultimately die in order to bring peace to the world, even the ones that are moderately harmless or even helpful to his crusade.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Othar may [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity live and breathe his delusion that Klaus is a villain]], but even he listens when Klaus asks for his help to deal with the [[GreaterScopeVillain Other]]. The fact that he stops acting like an idiot when the Other is brought up only further cements just how seriously Othar sees the Other as a threat.
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* BadBoss: He has no qualms about conscripting his 'sidekicks', though in his mind they ''want'' to join, and their careers tend to be so short he expresses hopes that a particularly promising individual might last ''six months''. Though apparently his sidekicks rarely ''die'', according to the novels, because they quickly realize that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor the job isn't as glamorous up close.]] Plus, Othar is a ChasteHero who is absolutely resolute to not dally with an assistant, which actually ends up being a disappointment to many of his companions, who ''actually want him to''.
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* BadBoss: He has no qualms about conscripting his 'sidekicks', 'sidekicks'; though in his mind they ''want'' to join, and their he completely ignores anything they say about not wanting to be a hero, or not wanting to help him, or wanting to kill him. Their careers tend to be so short short, he ominously expresses hopes that a particularly promising individual might last ''six months''. Though apparently months''.[[note]]This last point depends on how canon you consider the novels. Those state his "spunky girl sidekick" turnover rate is a result of sidekicks rarely ''die'', according to the novels, because they quickly realize that realizing a) [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor the job isn't as glamorous up close.]] Plus, close as they though]] and b) Othar is a ChasteHero who is absolutely resolute refuses to not dally with an assistant, which actually ends up being a disappointment to many of his companions, who ''actually want him to''.assistants.[[/note]]
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* ChivalrousPervert: Spends a good deal of time hitting on Agatha, to "save" her from the Wulfenbachs. Well, that's how it might appear, turns out he's a ChasteHero who actually prefers to ''not'' dally with his rescues or his female assistants.
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* FreudianExcuse: As the novels explain, Othar's hometown was often ravaged by the mad inventions of the local Spark lords, which goes some way to explaining his attitude toward them. Furthermore, the insanity of the spark and the type of events that follow sparks like the plague hasn't helped him. Then he started to go on his adventures and was proclaimed a hero all the while he was picking up assistants who couldn't keep up and started dying on him. Eventually he picked up a homeless Geister that had been abandoned by her sisterhood in the sewers of Paris. It's implied that he was in love with all of his assistants and he took this one to be his wife. They retired to an island for decades and he left only after she passed away from natural causes. [[spoiler:He found Europa had burned to ashes and everyone and everything was dead. All he found was an aged Tarvek who tried to explain what happened. However, when Tarvek tried to send him back in time, Othar attacked him in a paranoid rage, Tarvek managed to send him back, but he wasn't able to provide Othar any details. Othar knows that all of Europa is doomed without his help, but he hasn't seen the post-epilogue stories that show that Agatha will beat the Other. For all he knows, everything he is doing is in vain. All he does know is that sparks will cause the BadFuture, but he has no information as to why or how, so he kills all sparks he comes across on the ''chance'' that they have something to do with causing Europa's destruction either by helping to directly cause it or by being a distraction or SpannerInTheWorks hurting the good guys. The problem is that he's so insane that he can't sort out who is working with or helping the Other directly or indirectly, so he comes to blows with "villains" like the Wulfenbachs who, in fact, are more on the heroic side of the equation.]]
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* FreudianExcuse: As the novels explain, Othar's hometown was often ravaged by the mad inventions of the local Spark lords, which goes some way to explaining his attitude toward them. Furthermore, the insanity of the spark and the type of events that follow sparks like the plague hasn't helped him. Then he started to go on his adventures and was proclaimed a hero all the while he was picking up assistants who couldn't keep up and started dying on him. [[note]]Possibly; the comic never says explicitely one way or the other, but according to the novels his assistants just quit.[[/note]] Eventually he picked up a homeless Geister that had been abandoned by her sisterhood in the sewers of Paris. It's implied that he was in love with all of his assistants and he took this one to be his wife. They retired to an island for decades and he left only after she passed away from natural causes. [[spoiler:He found Europa had burned to ashes and everyone and everything was dead. All he found was an aged Tarvek who tried to explain what happened. However, when Tarvek tried to send him back in time, Othar attacked him in a paranoid rage, Tarvek managed to send him back, but he wasn't able to provide Othar any details. Othar knows that all of Europa is doomed without his help, but he hasn't seen the post-epilogue stories that show that Agatha will beat the Other. For all he knows, everything he is doing is in vain. All he does know is that sparks will cause the BadFuture, but he has no information as to why or how, so he kills all sparks he comes across on the ''chance'' that they have something to do with causing Europa's destruction either by helping to directly cause it or by being a distraction or SpannerInTheWorks hurting the good guys. The problem is that he's so insane that he can't sort out who is working with or helping the Other directly or indirectly, so he comes to blows with "villains" like the Wulfenbachs who, in fact, are more on the heroic side of the equation.]]
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Invoked. You can follow his heroic story on Twitter! OTOH, his one glaring flaw is that he is not only unaware of this trope, but completely unwilling to accept its possibility.
* HeroWithBadPublicity / VillainWithGoodPublicity: He's managed to become ''both''. The common folk love him. Considering how his "crusade" puts him in conflict with Sparks that are genuinely dangerous to the populace and Othar is motivated to clean up the "Sparky menace" to protect the non-Sparks (and the common folk are unaware of his being a mass-Spark-murdering maniac), this is not unjustified. On the other hand?
* HeroWithBadPublicity / VillainWithGoodPublicity: He's managed to become ''both''. The common folk love him. Considering how his "crusade" puts him in conflict with Sparks that are genuinely dangerous to the populace and Othar is motivated to clean up the "Sparky menace" to protect the non-Sparks (and the common folk are unaware of his being a mass-Spark-murdering maniac), this is not unjustified. On the other hand?
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Invoked. You can follow his heroic story on Twitter! OTOH, One of his one most glaring flaw is that he is not only unaware of this trope, but completely unwilling to accept its possibility.
* HeroWithBadPublicity / VillainWithGoodPublicity: He's managed to become ''both''. The latter case: the common folk lovehim. Considering how him for his "crusade" puts him in conflict with Sparks that are genuinely dangerous to the populace and against Sparks. Othar is motivated to clean up the "Sparky menace" to protect the non-Sparks (and non-Sparks. However, the common folk are unaware of his being a mass-Spark-murdering maniac), this is not unjustified. On maniac who sees no difference between Sparks that are genuinely dangerous to the other hand?populace and those that are just living their lives. For the former:
* HeroWithBadPublicity / VillainWithGoodPublicity: He's managed to become ''both''. The latter case: the common folk love
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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: This is actually what makes him insane. Othar is unable to comprehend that Klaus isn't the villain. Even back in the day, Klaus wasn't the TokenEvilTeammate. That was Lucrezia. Klaus was the pragmatic, jaded teammate. Klaus may be a tyrant, but his rule is much freer and safer than the anarchy that came before it. In present time, Othar also can't process that Gil is the TokenGoodTeammate of Agatha's team with Tarvek being the TokenEvilTeammate and Agatha being the pragmatic one. He has their roles backwards in his head.
* HunterOfHisOwnKind: He's a Spark hellbent on the eradication of all Sparks, himself included. Although his particular focus seems to be more in sabotaging the devices of others rather than building any of his own.
* HunterOfHisOwnKind: He's a Spark hellbent on the eradication of all Sparks, himself included. Although his particular focus seems to be more in sabotaging the devices of others rather than building any of his own.
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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: This is actually what makes him insane. Othar is unable to comprehend that Klaus isn't the villain. Even back in the day, Klaus wasn't sometimes thought the TokenEvilTeammate. That Heterodyne boys were too forgiving, but was Lucrezia. Klaus was never the pragmatic, jaded teammate.TokenEvilTeammate. Klaus may be a tyrant, but his rule is much freer and safer than the anarchy that came before it. In present time,
** Othar also can't process that Gil is the TokenGoodTeammate of Agatha's team with Tarvek being the TokenEvilTeammate and Agatha being the pragmatic one. He has their roles backwards in his head.
* HunterOfHisOwnKind: He's a Spark hellbent on the eradication of all Sparks, himself included. Although his particular focus seems to be more in sabotaging the devices of others rather than building any of hisown.own; people often ''forget'' he's a Spark.
** Othar also can't process that Gil is the TokenGoodTeammate of Agatha's team with Tarvek being the TokenEvilTeammate and Agatha being the pragmatic one. He has their roles backwards in his head.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Bang is scared of Dreen. Slaver Wasps are scared of Dreen. The Jaegers are scared of Dreen. ''Everyone'' is scared of Dreen.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Bang is scared of Dreen. Slaver Wasps are scared of Dreen. The Jaegers are scared of Dreen. Castle Heterodyne is scared of the Dreen. ''Everyone'' is scared of Dreen.
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* LadykillerInLove: Lars, who gets a fairly obvious crush on Agatha. [[spoiler:He confesses it as he lies dying.]]
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* LadykillerInLove: Lars, who gets a fairly obvious crush on falls for Agatha. [[spoiler:He confesses it as he lies dying.]]
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* YouNoTakeCandle: Like all Swartzwalders, he has very simplistic speech. However, it belies an intellect beyond just being DumbMuscle, as he was savvy enough to think that The Beast was bluffing.
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* YouNoTakeCandle: Like all Swartzwalders, he has very simplistic speech.speech and refers to himself using "this bear" instead of "I". However, it belies an intellect beyond just being DumbMuscle, as he was savvy enough to think that The Beast was bluffing.
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* BadBoss: He has no qualms about conscripting his 'sidekicks', though in his mind they ''want'' to join, and their careers tend to be so short he expresses hopes that a particularly promising individual might last ''six months''. Though apparently his sidekicks rarely ''die'', according to the novels, because they quickly realize that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor the job isn't as glamourous up close.]] Plus, Othar is a ChasteHero who is absolutely resolute to not dally with an assistant, which actually ends up being a disappointment to many of his companions, who ''actually want him to''.
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* BadBoss: He has no qualms about conscripting his 'sidekicks', though in his mind they ''want'' to join, and their careers tend to be so short he expresses hopes that a particularly promising individual might last ''six months''. Though apparently his sidekicks rarely ''die'', according to the novels, because they quickly realize that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor the job isn't as glamourous glamorous up close.]] Plus, Othar is a ChasteHero who is absolutely resolute to not dally with an assistant, which actually ends up being a disappointment to many of his companions, who ''actually want him to''.
* BadBoss: Ixthaliox demands to know why the soldiers have stopped marching. One of them answers his question--the opposing army has sent a group carrying a WhiteFlag, looking to parlay--and Ixthaliox promptly freezes him solid.[[note]]Unclear if this kills him or just inconveniences him, as the soldiers don't react to cold the way most humans do.[[/note]]
** Even their foot soldiers don't seem entirely human, [[https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20231120 having glowing, pupilless eyes and sharp teeth]].
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* ThoseWereOnlyTheirScouts: After Ixthaliox is defeated by Agatha with considerable difficulty, the assistance of a full complement of Sparks, and the firepower of a rather large army, an ''even more powerful'' Polar Lord Appears and [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness blasts Ixtha]], describing him as a weakling.
* VillainRespect: The senior Ice Lord seems to show this to Agatha... To the point of calling ''her'' [[EveryoneHasStandards a "horror"]].
* VillainRespect: The senior Ice Lord seems to show this to Agatha... To the point of calling ''her'' [[EveryoneHasStandards a "horror"]].
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* ThoseWereOnlyTheirScouts: After Ixthaliox Ixthaliox, who declares himself a "grand duke of the Arcana", is defeated by Agatha with considerable difficulty, the assistance of a full complement of Sparks, and the firepower of a rather large army, army. Then an ''even more powerful'' Polar Lord Appears and [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness blasts Ixtha]], describing calling him as a weakling."sniveling disgrace". Given their difference in size and appearance, and the Polar Lord's authority to "cast [Ixthaliox] from the Arcana", it's possible that grand duke is a ''title'', Ixthaliox is a subordinate, and ''we have not yet seen a Polar Lord in action''.
* TooDumbtoLive: The Polar Lord thinks this of Ixthaliox for failing to cut and run when Agatha arrived.
--> '''Polar Lord:''' Ixtha was a ''fool'' to provoke a horror such as you while he was weak and in retreat.
* VillainRespect: The seniorIce Polar Lord seems to show this to Agatha... To the point of calling ''her'' [[EveryoneHasStandards a "horror"]].
* TooDumbtoLive: The Polar Lord thinks this of Ixthaliox for failing to cut and run when Agatha arrived.
--> '''Polar Lord:''' Ixtha was a ''fool'' to provoke a horror such as you while he was weak and in retreat.
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* YouKillItYouBoughtIt: The Polar Lord tells Agatha she can keep the remains of Ixathliox's body "as [her] rightful spoil".
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** Upon first meeting Agatha during the siege of Mechanicsburg, a Dreen tells her that "[she] will come with [them]". While originally this sounded like a demand for surrender, the revelation that Dreen exist outside of linear time means that eventually she ''will'' go with them.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Albia, a practically immortal PhysicalGoddess RealityWarper, [[NothingIsScarier never talked about]] what she found when investigating territories abandoned by them as the ice receded. When she sends a British expeditionary fleet to escort Agatha back to Mechanicsburg, they are also tasked specifically with helping Gil's forces fight the Polar Lords, showing that she views them as even more of a threat than the Other.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Albia, a practically immortal PhysicalGoddess and RealityWarper, [[NothingIsScarier never talked about]] what she found when investigating territories abandoned by them as the ice receded. When she sends a British expeditionary fleet to escort Agatha back to Mechanicsburg, they are also tasked specifically with helping Gil's forces fight the Polar Lords, showing that she views them as even more of a threat than the Other.
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--> We will '''remember''' this loss. And '''you''' will remember '''the ice'''.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Albia, a practically immortal PhysicalGoddess RealityWarper, [[NothingIsScarier never talked about]] what she found when investigating territories abandoned by them as the ice receded. When she sends a British expeditionary fleet to escort Agatha back to Mechanicsburg, they are also tasked specifically with helping Gil's forces fight the Polar Lords, showing that she views them as even more of a threat than the Other.
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* OutsideContextProblem: The abilities wielded by the Polar Lords can only be described as [[WrongContextMagic actual, "traditional" magic]] without any of the Sparky trappings, allowing them to warp reality in new and incomprehensible ways.
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* WrongContextMagic: The ice-based abilities wielded by the Polar Lords can only be described as actual, "traditional" magic without any of the Sparky trappings, which makes them a dangerous and unpredictable anomaly in the eyes of most other characters.
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* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Once Ixthaliox is defeated by Agatha and Co. en route to Mechanicsburg, he's reduced to a skeleton by a more senior Ice Lord for his recklessness, and to prevent him from [[HeKnowsTooMuch spilling any of the Polar Lords' secrets]] to Agatha.
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* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: YouHaveFailedMe: Once Ixthaliox is defeated by Agatha and Co. en route to Mechanicsburg, he's reduced to a skeleton by a more senior Ice Lord for his recklessness, and to prevent him from [[HeKnowsTooMuch spilling any of the Polar Lords' secrets]] to Agatha.
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* OutsideContextProblem: The abilities wielded by the Polar Lords can only be described as [[WrongContextMagic actual, "traditional" magic]] without any of the Sparky trappings, allowing them to warp reality in new and incomprehensible ways.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Master Payne.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Master Payne.Payne is often forced to make difficult decisions for the sake of keeping his people safe, but he never abuses his authority and always lets Agatha speak her piece before pointing out why he can't do as she wants, however much he would like to.
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* IOweYouMyLife: No one is happy at [[IDidWhatIHadToDo being forced]] to [[ShootTheDog turn away Agatha]] when she reveals she's on the run from Klaus Wulfenbach, but they gladly [[FakingTheDead fake her death]] and deceive a grieving Gil after she [[GoodSamaritan returns]] to [[BigDamnHeroes save them]] from [[AIIsACrapshoot a wild clank]] ''anyway''. They then take her in, no questions asked, and agree to escort her to Mechanicsburg, even after learning she's a Spark herself. When they finally learn she's a ''Heterodyne'', [[RefugeInAudacity they steal a Wulfenbach ship]] and [[RoaringRampageOfRescue rescue her from Klaus himself]].
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* NecessarilyEvil: [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070115 Master Payne]]
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* NecessarilyEvil: [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070115 Master Payne]]Payne]].
* NumberTwo: Abner's overall role seems to be Master Payne's right-hand man, offering suggestions and feedback while planning their next course of action.
* NumberTwo: Abner's overall role seems to be Master Payne's right-hand man, offering suggestions and feedback while planning their next course of action.
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* {{Tsundere}}: Pix has a one-sided crush on Abner, and is ''very'' flustered that he doesn't notice her. [[RelationshipUpgrade Until he does]].
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[[folder:Polar Ice Lords (Unmarked spoilers)]]
!!The Polar Ice Lords, Horrors of the Frozen Wastes
[[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/gg_ixthaliox.png]]
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[[caption-width-right:250:[[labelnote:''Click to see the other Polar Lord.'']]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/gg_icelord.png[[/labelnote]]]]
-->''"They say the lords are wizards. Demons. '''Monsters'''. That they can '''control reality itself'''. For what it's worth, I don't think they're '''lying'''."''
-->--'''Princess Neena'''
Mysterious and dangerous in equal measure, the Polar Ice Lords are ''things'' that rule over the frigid lands north of Europa. That is, until the fall of the Wulfenbach Empire, which seemingly encouraged them to expand their frozen dominion southwards.
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* AncientEvil: They've ruled over their icy lands for untold millennia, being venerable even in comparison to ''[[TheAgeless Albia]]''. According to Ixthaliox, they even predate [[{{Precursors}} whoever built the Queens' Mirrors]].
* AnIcePerson: And ''how''. The Polar Lords are defined by their disturbingly powerful control over the cold -- they can use it to ground fleets of airships, protect themselves and their troops from harm, and turn enemy soldiers into icy revenants who obey their every command.
* {{Enigmatic Minion}}s: When first introduced, they seem to be just another one of the factions serving the Other, complete with the use of modified [[MookMaker Hive Engines]]. But it eventually becomes apparent that they are just as, if not ''even more'' powerful than the Other themselves, and seem to be following their own agenda with a disturbing interest in Agatha and Mechanicsburg. Case in point, once Ixthaliox is defeated and his Hive Engines destroyed, a senior Polar Lord appears, denounces him as a weakling, and withdraws all of their forces.
* EvilIsHammy: Ixthaliox is, at the very least.
-->The endless void between the stars is '''filled''' with '''cold beyond your imagining'''! MINE TO COMMAND!
* HumanoidAbomination: Once in their weakened state, they look human (ish), and [[WasOnceAMan might have been human once]]. But in most circumstances, they're monstrous beings that [[AnIcePerson wield the cold]] in a manner that even manages to shatter the setting's RuleOfCool based laws of nature.
* LogicalWeakness: Unsurprisingly, the best way to harm them is through the use of heat-based weaponry.
* OurLichesAreDifferent: They certainly seem to fit this role -- ancient, mysterious and ''very'' dangerous beings that appear as gaunt, emaciated humanoids, command armies of undead minions, and wield powerful magic.
* ThoseWereOnlyTheirScouts: After Ixthaliox is defeated by Agatha with considerable difficulty, the assistance of a full complement of Sparks, and the firepower of a rather large army, an ''even more powerful'' Polar Lord Appears and [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness blasts Ixtha]], describing him as a weakling.
* VillainRespect: The senior Ice Lord seems to show this to Agatha... To the point of calling ''her'' [[EveryoneHasStandards a "horror"]].
* WeWillMeetAgain: The Senior Polar Lord informs Agatha as such.
--> We will '''remember''' this loss. And '''you''' will remember '''the ice'''.
* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Once Ixthaliox is defeated by Agatha and Co. en route to Mechanicsburg, he's reduced to a skeleton by a more senior Ice Lord for his recklessness, and to prevent him from [[HeKnowsTooMuch spilling any of the Polar Lords' secrets]] to Agatha.
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* AmbiguousSituation: Her attitude towards [[spoiler:Gil]] is one of the story's smaller mysteries. [[spoiler:Klaus suggests that for some reason she wanted him dead, and that this was the reason he brought the toddler Gil back to Europa with him, and has a strong suspicion that one of the reasons Zeetha was sent out into the world was to kill him, but why she would do so is unclear.]]
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* AmbiguousSituation: Her attitude towards [[spoiler:Gil]] is one of the story's smaller mysteries. [[spoiler:Klaus suggests that for some reason she wanted him dead, and that this was the reason he brought the toddler Gil back to Europa with him, and has a strong suspicion that one of the reasons Zeetha was sent out into the world was to kill him, but why she would do so is unclear. Alternatively, and since otherwise it's odd that Klaus would still miss Zantabraxus and think fondly of her, there might have been others in Skifander who wanted to kill Gil...]]
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* TheGhost: First mentioned very early on in the story offhandedly by [[spoiler:Klaus]], name-dropped by Zeetha several times, but it took up until 2022 before she makes a physical appearance in a flashback.
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* TheGhost: First mentioned very early on in the story offhandedly by [[spoiler:Klaus]], name-dropped by Zeetha several times, but it took up until 2022 before she makes a confirmed physical appearance in a flashback.
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* ThirdPersonPerson: He is "This Bear" when referring to himself.
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* ThirdPersonPerson: He is "This Bear" when referring to himself.himself; an affectation shared among all his fellow Swartzwalders.
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* TheExile: Before Chump showed up, there'd been a period of severe civil unrest between the priestesses of Eshikigax and Zantabraxus's mother, which meant she had to go into exile. Chump helped her recover her throne.
* TheGhost: First mentioned very early on in the story offhandedly by Klaus, name-dropped by Zeetha several times, but it took up until 2022 before she makes a physical appearance in a flashback.
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* TheGhost: First mentioned very early on in the story offhandedly byKlaus, [[spoiler:Klaus]], name-dropped by Zeetha several times, but it took up until 2022 before she makes a physical appearance in a flashback.
* TheGhost: First mentioned very early on in the story offhandedly by
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!!Zantabraxus, Warrior-Queen of Skifander
The current Queen of Skifander, a hidden and mysterious civilization, mother of Zeetha and wife of the mysterious warrior known only as "Chump". [[spoiler:Also known as Klaus Wulfenbach, making her Gil's mother.]]
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* AmbiguousSituation: Her attitude towards [[spoiler:Gil]] is one of the story's smaller mysteries. [[spoiler:Klaus suggests that for some reason she wanted him dead, and that this was the reason he brought the toddler Gil back to Europa with him, and has a strong suspicion that one of the reasons Zeetha was sent out into the world was to kill him, but why she would do so is unclear.]]
* TheExile: Before Chump showed up, there'd been a period of severe civil unrest between the priestesses of Eshikigax and Zantabraxus's mother, which meant she had to go into exile. Chump helped her recover her throne.
* TheGhost: First mentioned very early on in the story offhandedly by Klaus, name-dropped by Zeetha several times, but it took up until 2022 before she makes a physical appearance in a flashback.
* HappilyMarried: By all indications, she and Chump were quite happy together, [[spoiler:and whatever it was that separated them, Klaus still misses her dearly.]]
* MissingMom: For [[spoiler:Gil]], who doesn't know a thing about her, including her ''name''. The novels make it clear that [[spoiler:Klaus]] mentioning her when he's hospitalized is the first time he's ever said anything about the subject ever.
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* ForgottenFallenFriend: [[spoiler:He dies protecting Agatha and is given a Jäger funeral, with Maxim donating his hat. He isn't mentioned again.]] The print-novels do a little better, [[spoiler: having Agatha mourn for him when finally given a quiet moment to do so.]]
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* ForgottenFallenFriend: [[spoiler:He dies protecting Agatha and [[DueToTheDead is given a Jäger funeral, funeral]], with Maxim donating [[SeriousBusiness his hat.hat]]. He isn't mentioned again.]] The print-novels do a little better, [[spoiler: having Agatha mourn for him when finally given a quiet moment to do so.]]
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Master Payne.
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Master Payne.Payne, though he's a pleasant enough fellow most of the time.
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* PerformanceAnxiety: According to the novelization Yeti has stage fright even though he acts in the plays, it is unknown what his usual part is but in one performance he acts as Punch.
* PhonyPsychic: Madame Olga was a fortune teller traveling with the circus.
* PieInTheFace: Shockingly, this is plot-relevant! Taki believes there is no problem in life that cannot be solved by application of pie to the face, whether it's a dud act or a panic attack.
* PhonyPsychic: Madame Olga was a fortune teller traveling with the circus.
* PieInTheFace: Shockingly, this is plot-relevant! Taki believes there is no problem in life that cannot be solved by application of pie to the face, whether it's a dud act or a panic attack.
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* PerformanceAnxiety: According to the novelization Yeti has stage fright even though if he acts in the plays, it is unknown what his usual part is ever tries to appear on stage, but in one very special performance in Sturmhalten he successfully acts as Punch.
* PhonyPsychic: Madame Olgawas is a fortune teller traveling with the circus.
circus; after she is killed, Agatha takes over her act using the same name.
* PieInTheFace: Shockingly, this is plot-relevant! Taki the chef believes there is no problem in life that cannot be solved by application of pie to the face, whether it's a dudact or act, a panic attack.attack, or a full-blown Sparkish rage. [[spoiler:It actually helps with that last one.]]
* PhonyPsychic: Madame Olga
* PieInTheFace: Shockingly, this is plot-relevant! Taki the chef believes there is no problem in life that cannot be solved by application of pie to the face, whether it's a dud
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* ForgottenFallenFriend: [[spoiler:He dies protecting Agatha and is given a Jäger funeral, with Maxim donating his hat. He's never He isn't mentioned again afterwards.again.]] The print-novels do a little better, [[spoiler: having Agatha mourn for him when finally given a quiet moment to do so.]]
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* MenAreTheExpendableGender: [[spoiler:Lars is killed by the Baron and dies confessing his love for Agatha, causing her to become angrier than ever before. However, after this story arc, Agatha never mentions Lars again and she becomes occupied with her love triangle with Gil and Tarvek.]]
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* MenAreTheExpendableGender: [[spoiler:Lars is killed by the Baron and dies confessing his love for Agatha, causing her to become angrier than ever before. However, after this story arc, Agatha (almost) never mentions Lars again and she becomes occupied with her love triangle with Gil and Tarvek.]]
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* UncertainDoom: In the future, he is considered to be "lost".
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* UncertainDoom: [[https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20220829 In the future, he is considered to be "lost".]]
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* BlessedWithSuck: The circus is composed mostly of sparks who lost the SuperpowerLottery, their abilities held back by a lack of education or being so weak that they are barely considered sparks -- but they're still recognisably 'sparky' enough to be hated and feared by the general populace, while nowhere near powerful enough to protect themselves from angry mobs.
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* BlessedWithSuck: The circus is composed mostly of sparks who lost the SuperpowerLottery, their abilities held back by a lack of education or being so weak that they are barely considered sparks -- but they're still recognisably 'sparky' enough to be hated and feared by the general populace, while nowhere near powerful enough to protect themselves from angry mobs.mobs, Baron Wulfenbach or anyone else who might have a use for them.
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* BlessedWithSuck: The circus is composed mostly of sparks who lost the SuperpowerLottery, their spark abilities held back by a lack of education or being so weak that they are barely considered sparks.
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* BlessedWithSuck: The circus is composed mostly of sparks who lost the SuperpowerLottery, their spark abilities held back by a lack of education or being so weak that they are barely considered sparks.sparks -- but they're still recognisably 'sparky' enough to be hated and feared by the general populace, while nowhere near powerful enough to protect themselves from angry mobs.
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* AmbiguouslyGay: [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100324 His sister thinks so, anyway]], and Othar noticeably changes the subject rather than deny it. Bi if she's right (since he married a Geisterdame in the Twitter).
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* AmbiguouslyGay: AmbiguouslyBi: [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100324 His sister thinks so, anyway]], and Othar noticeably changes the subject rather than deny it. Bi if she's right (since he married a Geisterdame in the Twitter).
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* RealityWarper: Gil [[https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20230901 has a theory]] that all his more unlikely abilities, from surviving defenestration from an airship to being fluent in the secret language of an all-female monster race, are due to being "so annoying, reality tries to avoid him".
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** One of the Dreen in St. Szpac's vaults tells Gil that he will travel to Paris. While he goes to England instead, Albia sends him to Paris for his return trip, much to his own disbelief.
** When Klaus finally returned to Europa from wherever it was that Lucrezia sent him, he found two Dreen awaiting his arrival. They offered to assist him in his conquest of Europa and the establishment of his empire, apparently to repay him for something he would do in the future.
** When Klaus finally returned to Europa from wherever it was that Lucrezia sent him, he found two Dreen awaiting his arrival. They offered to assist him in his conquest of Europa and the establishment of his empire, apparently to repay him for something he would do in the future.
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* NighInvulnerability: Martellus attempts to flatten one of the Dreen with his [[PoweredArmor battle clank]]. [[https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20121031 It shrugs it off and casually dismantles the battle clank while resuming pursuit of Agatha]].
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!!Ferretina, the Weasel Queen
The main antagonist of the "Revenge of the Weasel Queen" side story.
!!Ferretina, the Weasel Queen
The main antagonist of the "Revenge of the Weasel Queen" side story.
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!!Ferretina, the Weasel Queen
The main antagonist
!!Dreen, Mysterious Abominations
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Bang is scared of Dreen. Slaver Wasps are scared of Dreen. The Jaegers are scared of Dreen. ''Everyone'' is scared of Dreen.
* NonLinearCharacter: As they are from outside of regular time and space. From an inside perspective it makes them look omniscient, but they aren't. When they say something to someone, it will happen, because they've seen it happen.
* SignOfTheEndTimes: Apparently they only show up when things are really bad, time-wise.
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[[folder:Ferretina]]
!!Ferretina, the Weasel Queen
The main antagonist of the "Revenge of the Weasel Queen" side story.
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: Bang is scared of Dreen. Slaver Wasps are scared of Dreen. The Jaegers are scared of Dreen. ''Everyone'' is scared of Dreen.
* NonLinearCharacter: As they are from outside of regular time and space. From an inside perspective it makes them look omniscient, but they aren't. When they say something to someone, it will happen, because they've seen it happen.
* SignOfTheEndTimes: Apparently they only show up when things are really bad, time-wise.
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!!Ferretina, the Weasel Queen
The main antagonist of the "Revenge of the Weasel Queen" side story.
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* ChivalrousPervert[=/=]HandsomeLech: Lars apparently has a... ''colorful'' history.
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Lars]].
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* LovableCoward:
** Lars starts out as this.
** Arguably, the whole circus is this. They play heroes on stage, but they don't do any actual heroics - traveling the Wastelands is dangerous enough without it.
** Lars starts out as this.
** Arguably, the whole circus is this. They play heroes on stage, but they don't do any actual heroics - traveling the Wastelands is dangerous enough without it.
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** Lars starts out as this.
** Arguably, theLovableCoward: The whole circus is this. They play heroes on stage, but they don't do any actual heroics - traveling the Wastelands is dangerous enough without it.
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** Arguably, the
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* NervousWreck: Lars can be easily startled by some of the abominations of science encountered in the wastelands. Not helping is that his job is to scout the Wastelands ''for'' those abominations, leaving him a bundle of frayed nerves. Once he gets going, it's hard to stop him. Even with a pie. Though the Jaegers found a solution.
-->'''Lars:''' Horse! Pie! Horse! Pie!
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* ThePlotReaper: [[spoiler:Lars]], when Gil is about to come back into Agatha's life.
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-->'''Lars:''' Horse! Pie! Horse! Pie!
-->'''Lars:''' Horse! Pie! Horse! Pie!
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* VillainOfTheWeek: {{Invoked||Trope}} to represent how far Professor Wyrmhaut had fallen. During the hunt for the [[AmplifierArtifact Iram Solis]], she talked a good game about how Mechanicsburg's ''numerous'' enemies kept making the mistake of thinking that they could defeat the city via a DecapitatedArmy tactic, when an experienced monster hunter would know that [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill razing the entire town]] is the only option. Once the Professor actually ''got'' the Iram Solis, she attempted to [[KillItWithFire make good on her declaration]]... but the people of Mechanicsburg [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are so used to such plots]] that the most the reader sees of the results is a newspaper reporting the "weekly attack by disgraced academic" some time later.
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* VillainOfTheWeek: {{Invoked||Trope}} {{Invoked|Trope}} to represent how far Professor Wyrmhaut had fallen. During the hunt for the [[AmplifierArtifact Iram Solis]], she talked a good game about how Mechanicsburg's ''numerous'' enemies kept making the mistake of thinking that they could defeat the city via a DecapitatedArmy tactic, when an experienced monster hunter would know that [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill razing the entire town]] is the only option. Once the Professor actually ''got'' the Iram Solis, she attempted to [[KillItWithFire make good on her declaration]]... but the people of Mechanicsburg [[ButForMeItWasTuesday are so used to such plots]] that the most the reader sees of the results is a newspaper reporting the "weekly attack by disgraced academic" some time later.
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* CartwrightCurse: He has had a couple love interests in his Twitter adventures, but in both cases, said relationship gets RetGone via TimeTravel and AlternateUniverse incidents.
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* BullyingADragon: [[spoiler:She tries to destroy Mechanicsburg completely on her own, using the Iram Solis, an AmplifierArtifact for fires. The Iram Solis is strong, but not ''that'' strong, especially when she's only powering it with a match. The Mechanicsburg news proceeds to mock her attempt as an embarrassing failure.]]
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* LoyalPhlebotinum: Her customized gun is designed to only work for her. [[spoiler:When the heroes manage to steal it, she dares them to shoot her with it while she prepares to kill them with a fire AmplifierArtifact.]]
