History Characters / GameOfThronesHouseLannister

22nd Jun '18 8:29:58 AM outlander2012
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* MyBelovedSmother: She tried to be this for her children but has so far failed at it, rather spectacularly with Joffrey becoming an uncontrollable monster, Myrcella being spirited off to Dorne specifically to get her out of Cersei's clutches, and with Tommen being virtually a non-entity to her -- so it's far too late to start anew when he becomes King.

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* MyBelovedSmother: She tried to be this for her children but has so far failed at it, rather spectacularly with Joffrey becoming an uncontrollable monster, Myrcella being spirited off to Dorne specifically to get her out of Cersei's clutches, clutches (and she reappears, it turns out Myrcella has no wish to go anywhere near her cold and distant mother), and with Tommen being virtually a non-entity to her -- so it's far too late to start anew when he becomes King.
22nd Jun '18 8:11:09 AM outlander2012
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* HorrifyingTheHorror: For all her cruelty and brutality, Cersei is genuinely terrified when the wight Jon and Daenerys have brought to King's Landing bursts out of its crate and charges straight at her, trying to wrap its hands around her throat.
13th Jun '18 2:19:48 AM Morgenthaler
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** At the end of Season 6, while she does eventually manage to outmanoeuvre her enemies to become crowned Queen, the rather extensive point made under PyrrhicVictory above mean that this isn't exactly the glorious triumph it might otherwise seem to be, and that she probably shouldn't be trading in this trope for a MagnificentBastard crown just yet.

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** At the end of Season 6, while she does eventually manage to outmanoeuvre her enemies to become crowned Queen, the rather extensive point made under PyrrhicVictory above mean that this isn't exactly the glorious triumph it might otherwise seem to be, and that she probably shouldn't be trading in this trope for a MagnificentBastard crown just yet.be.
28th May '18 2:31:03 PM shawnmstewart
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* AdaptationalIntelligence: Some of her petty and idiotic schemes from the books are instead done by Joffrey in the show, which makes her less StupidEvil, and she actually tries to renegotiate the terms with the Iron Bank instead of just telling to screw themselves and have the kingdom falling into debt and bad credit. Lots of her smarts come from being all around less narcissistic and hateful so she can actually think instead of assuming she knows everything. [[spoiler:She took over King's Landing in a tour de main and while she isn't in a great posture she has already made herself an ally in the Greyjoys, the strongest naval power in Westeros, to keep Daenerys at bay.]]

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Some of her petty and idiotic schemes from the books are instead done by Joffrey in the show, which makes her less StupidEvil, and she actually tries to renegotiate the terms with the Iron Bank instead of just telling to screw themselves and have the kingdom falling into debt and bad credit. Lots of her smarts come from being all around less narcissistic and hateful so she can actually think instead of assuming she knows everything. [[spoiler:She took over King's Landing in a tour de main and while she isn't in a great posture she has already made herself an ally in the Greyjoys, the strongest naval power in Westeros, to keep Daenerys at bay.]]]]
** In Season 7, this is even more in effect. Cersei manages to out-scheme a bunch of very devious characters and keep her cool long enough to fool pretty much everyone as to her real intentions; it's very hard to imagine her character from the novels doing any of those things.
10th Apr '18 8:36:52 AM outlander2012
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** He also delivers one to Brienne when she insists he try to convince Cersei to fight in the Great War.
-->'''Brienne''': [[ZombieApocalypse This goes beyond honour and Houses and oaths!]] Talk to the Queen.
-->'''Jaime''': And tell her ''what''?



* ArtificialLimbs: He is fitted with a golden hand in Season 4 when he returns to King's Landing. Subverted in that it doesn't function as anything but a display and Jaime remarks that [[HookHand a hook]] would be more practical, but much to his luck, he does manages to use it as a life-saving [[BarehandedBladeBlock improvised shield]]. It's also an effective tool for slapping, As the Freys learned the hard way during Season 6.

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* ArtificialLimbs: He is fitted with a golden hand in Season 4 when he returns to King's Landing. Subverted in that it doesn't function as anything but a display and Jaime remarks that [[HookHand a hook]] would be more practical, but much to his luck, he does manages to use it as a life-saving [[BarehandedBladeBlock improvised shield]]. It's also an effective tool for slapping, As as the Freys learned the hard way during Season 6.



* IHaveYourWife: Has been captured by the Starks, who plan to use him as a hostage against Cersei. [[labelnote:From the books...]]Also the reason why The Mad King kept Jaime in the capitol during Robert's Rebellion, even though all the other White Swords was sent out to fight--Ser Barristan Selmy, Ser Jonothor Darry, and Prince Lewyn Martell of Dorne to the ruby ford, where the latter two died alongside Rhaegar Targaryen; and Ser Oswell Whent, Ser Arthur Dayne, called "Sword of the Morning," and Lord Commander Gerold Hightower, the White Bull himself, to the Tower of Joy in Dorne, where Eddard Stark and his companions slew them whilst trying to rescue Lyanna. Aerys's plans were very straightforward: if House Lannister were to raise its banners in rebellion, Aerys could easily have Jaime killed. The Mad King had already made this threat to Prince Doran Martell -- "I have your brother in the Kingsguard AND your sister as my daughter-in-law" -- which is why Dorne fought for House Targaryen.[[/labelnote]]

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* IHaveYourWife: Has been captured by the Starks, who plan to use him as a hostage against Cersei. [[labelnote:From the books...]]Also the reason why The Mad King kept Jaime in the capitol during Robert's Rebellion, even though all the other White Swords was sent out to fight--Ser Barristan Selmy, Ser Jonothor Darry, and Prince Lewyn Martell of Dorne to the ruby ford, where the latter two died alongside Rhaegar Targaryen; and Ser Oswell Whent, Ser Arthur Dayne, called "Sword of the Morning," and Lord Commander Gerold Hightower, the White Bull himself, to the Tower of Joy in Dorne, where Eddard Stark and his companions slew them whilst trying to rescue Lyanna. Aerys's plans were very straightforward: if House Lannister were to raise its banners in rebellion, Aerys could easily have Jaime killed. The Mad King had already made this threat to Prince Doran Martell -- "I have your brother uncle in the Kingsguard AND your sister as my daughter-in-law" -- which is why Dorne fought for House Targaryen.[[/labelnote]]



** When Robb interrogates him and brings out Grey Wind, where he's literally seeming as if he's about to piss himself. So much for 'not fearing death'.

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** When Robb interrogates him and brings out Grey Wind, where he's literally seeming as if he's about to piss himself.himself when the wolf's snapping fangs are an inch from his face. So much for 'not fearing death'.



** Perhaps the biggest one yet appears in "The Spoils of War" when Jaime hears a monstrous roar and then sees ''[[DeathFromAbove Drogon]]'' flying straight towards his army with a swarm of Dothraki beneath him.

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** Perhaps the biggest one yet appears in "The Spoils of War" when Jaime hears a monstrous roar and then sees ''[[DeathFromAbove Drogon]]'' flying straight towards his army with a swarm of Dothraki beneath him. There's also the one he gives when his attempt to [[StraightForTheCommander kill Daenerys]] ends with the black dragon's head between him and her, fanged mouth agape, and then Jaime catches sight of the orange glow at the back of Drogon's throat...
10th Apr '18 5:15:04 AM outlander2012
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** At the end of Season 7, [[spoiler:she goes back in her word about helping either Jon and Daenerys in fighting the Night King and disregards the menace he represents, as she is actively hoping they wipe each other out while she stands back, fortifies her position and replenishes her forces with the Golden Company. She doesn't seem to grasp that in the worst case scenario pointed out by Jaime, should the Night King prevail, the Starks and Targaryens will be absorbed into the fold and she won't be able to outfight them, or should they win, they'll come back north and kill them for their betrayal]].

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** At the end of Season 7, [[spoiler:she goes back in her word about helping either Jon and Daenerys in fighting the Night King and disregards the menace he represents, as she is actively hoping they wipe each other out while she stands back, fortifies her position and replenishes her forces with the Golden Company. She doesn't seem to grasp that in the worst case scenario pointed out by Jaime, should the Night King prevail, the Starks Stark and Targaryens Targaryen forces will be absorbed into the fold ranks of the living dead and she won't be able to outfight them, or should they win, they'll come back north and kill them for their betrayal]].betrayal]].
-->'''Jaime''': [[spoiler: When the fighting in the North is over, someone wins — you understand that, don't you? [[ZombieApocalypse If the dead win, they march south and kill us all]]. [[ThisIsUnforgivable If the living win, and we've betrayed them]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge they march south and kill us all]]!]]



* DumbBlonde: While Cersei isn't a ''complete'' moron, Tywin perfectly assesses her when he says that she is nowhere near as intelligent as she thinks she is. Her main flaw is that she continually underestimates people, and her level of misguided arrogance about her supposed political brilliance prevents her from seeing that she is wrong. She loses control of Joffrey almost immediately after he becomes king, and most of her attempts to dispose of Tyrion are laughable failures. In Season 7, she thinks that she will be able to plot her way to victory despite Jaime outright telling her they're fighting a HopelessWar and she's just delaying the inevitable.

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* DumbBlonde: While Cersei isn't a ''complete'' moron, Tywin perfectly assesses her when he says that she is nowhere near as intelligent as she thinks she is. Her main flaw is that she continually underestimates people, and her level of misguided arrogance about her supposed political brilliance prevents her from seeing that she is wrong. She loses control of Joffrey almost immediately after he becomes king, and most of her attempts to dispose of Tyrion are laughable failures. In Season 7, she thinks that she will be able to plot her way to victory despite Jaime outright telling her they're fighting a HopelessWar and she's just delaying the inevitable.inevitable...and then goes even further by thinking she can turn a ZombieApocalypse to her advantage.



* EvilIsPetty: Cersei won't miss an opportunity to make someone miserable, assuming she can get away with it. Best typified in "The Lion and the Rose", in which to make herself feel better at her son's wedding, she walks around ''looking'' for people to be a jerk to -- first making Brienne feel awful about herself, then telling Pycelle to feed the wedding feast leftovers to the dogs instead of the poor (as Margaery had commanded). When Tywin asks her why she's smiling, she tells him it's just the little pleasures in life. Finally, Cersei is noticeably smiling during the ultra-humiliating play of the War of Five Kings, when even Tywin is forcing himself to suppress one -- after all, they're sitting alongside the bereaved of two of the titular kings! This plays into her StupidEvil tendencies, as she'll act to hurt someone who's wronged her in the short term without regard to the long-term consequences.

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* EvilIsPetty: Cersei won't miss an opportunity to make someone miserable, assuming she can get away with it. Best typified in "The Lion and the Rose", in which to make herself feel better at her son's wedding, she walks around ''looking'' for people to be a jerk to -- first making Brienne feel awful about herself, then telling Pycelle to feed the wedding feast leftovers to the dogs instead of the poor (as Margaery had commanded).commanded), as well as threatening him with death if he doesn't comply. When Tywin asks her why she's smiling, she tells him it's just the little pleasures in life. Finally, Cersei is noticeably smiling during the ultra-humiliating play of the War of Five Kings, when even Tywin is forcing himself to suppress one -- after all, they're sitting alongside the bereaved of two of the titular kings! This plays into her StupidEvil tendencies, as she'll act to hurt someone who's wronged her in the short term without regard to the long-term consequences.



* HateSink: A complex villain and not entirely unsympathetic all the time at first, she grows into this in later seasons and fully develops it in Season 7. While she my claim otherwise, when it comes right down to it Cersei cares about nothing and no one but herself. Combined with high levels of hypocrisy, foolishness, stupidity, and pettiness, and it's pretty clear Cersei is not intended to be sympathized with by viewers.

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* HateSink: A complex villain and not entirely unsympathetic all the time at first, she grows into this in later seasons and fully develops it in Season 7. While she my may claim otherwise, when it comes right down to it Cersei cares about nothing and no one but herself. Combined with high levels of hypocrisy, foolishness, stupidity, and pettiness, and it's pretty clear Cersei is not intended to be sympathized with by viewers.
5th Apr '18 2:26:04 PM oforiousmic
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* DudeWheresMyRespect: He has this attitude towards Tyrion, feeling that he should be more grateful as [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency he wanted to just murder him when he was born but chose to raise him anyway]]. The fact that he expects the son he's treated like shit his entire life to be grateful for not murdering him as an infant speaks volumes about Pride Tywin's character.

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* DudeWheresMyRespect: He has this attitude towards Tyrion, feeling that he should be more grateful as [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency he wanted to just murder him when he was born but chose to raise him anyway]]. The fact that he expects the son he's treated like shit his entire life to be grateful for not murdering him as an infant speaks volumes about Pride Tywin's character.



** This also plays into the Red Wedding. Tywin believes that it was enough to crush the Northern Rebellion once and for all and that They will see Robb as a cautionary tale of why They shouldn't march against the crown, believing that [[Pride because he says it's finished, it's finished]]. Tyrion however can see how the act will just embolden Them further and increase Their rage towards the crown and desire for independence. As we see later on, Tyrion was right that They wouldn't go down so easily and Robb ends up being seen as a martyr.

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** This also plays into the Red Wedding. Tywin believes that it was enough to crush the Northern Rebellion once and for all and that They will see Robb as a cautionary tale of why They shouldn't march against the crown, believing that [[Pride [[{{Pride}} because he says it's finished, it's finished]]. Tyrion however can see how the act will just embolden Them further and increase Their rage towards the crown and desire for independence. As we see later on, Tyrion was right that They wouldn't go down so easily and Robb ends up being seen as a martyr.
1st Apr '18 8:42:17 AM k410ren
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* EnfantTerrible: Was no more charming when she was younger.s

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* EnfantTerrible: Was no more charming when she was younger.s



** Additionally, her complete inability to play any sort of long game. Cersei only ever seems to plan for the moment, and this almost always blows up in her face later. To get back at Margaery, she empowers the Faith Militant with no consideration as to how this would affect King's Landing, only caring that Margaery would suffer. They turn on her as soon as it's convenient, and King's Landing comes within a hair's breadth of becoming a theocracy.

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** Additionally, her [[DidntThinkThisThrough complete inability to play any sort of long game.game]]. Cersei only ever seems to plan for the moment, and this almost always blows up in her face later. To get back at Margaery, she empowers the Faith Militant with no consideration as to how this would affect King's Landing, only caring that Margaery would suffer. They turn on her as soon as it's convenient, and King's Landing comes within a hair's breadth of becoming a theocracy.



* LastOfHisKind: With the death of Ser Barristan Selma in Season 5, Jaime is now the last remaining member of the [[BadassCrew Kingsguard of Aerys II]].

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* LastOfHisKind: With the death of Ser Barristan Selma Selmy in Season 5, Jaime is now the last remaining member of the [[BadassCrew Kingsguard of Aerys II]].



* OnlySaneMan: In Season 7, he's the only Lannister in King's Landing that [[spoiler: pays the threat of the Night's King and his forces the attention deserving of such a threat, and when Cersei makes it just how clear she is on letting the rest of Westeros hang just to maintain her grip on power, he walks out on her and sets to the North himself.]]

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* OnlySaneMan: OffWithHisHead: In Season 7, he's the only Lannister in King's Landing “Lord Snow”, it’s mentioned that [[spoiler: pays the threat Jaime’s first kill was a member of the Night's King and his forces Kingswood Brotherhood whom he decapitated. As a result, the attention deserving of such a threat, and when Cersei makes it just how clear she is on letting the rest of Westeros hang just to maintain her grip on power, he walks out on her and sets to the North himself.]]man had no last words.



* OnlySaneMan: In Season 7, he's the only Lannister in King's Landing that [[spoiler: pays the threat of the Night's King and his forces the attention deserving of such a threat, and when Cersei makes it just how clear she is on letting the rest of Westeros hang just to maintain her grip on power, he walks out on her and sets to the North himself.]]



* PayEvilUntoEvil: He stabbed the Mad King in the back.

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* PayEvilUntoEvil: He stabbed the Mad King in the back. It helps that the Mad King was trying to blow up the city.
10th Feb '18 12:47:17 PM patoezequiel
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* BrassBalls: You require a pair of them to charge head on to the dragon that has been burning alive half of your army minutes ago.
4th Feb '18 11:58:18 AM LtFedora
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* DudeWheresMyRespect: He has this attitude towards Tyrion, feeling that he should be more grateful as [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency he wanted to just murder him when he was born but chose to raise him anyway]]. The fact that he expects the son he's treated like shit his entire life to be grateful for not murdering him as an infant speaks volumes about Pride Tywin's character.



* DudeWheresMyRespect: He has this attitude towards Tyrion, feeling that he should be more grateful as [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency he wanted to just murder him when he was born but chose to raise him anyway]]. The fact that he expects the son he's treated like shit his entire life to be grateful for not murdering him as an infant speaks volumes about Pride Tywin's character.



** He tends to dismiss the Starks as weak due in part to Their noble nature. It's clear that [[HonorBeforeReason]] is a completely foreign principle to Tywin. House Lannister ends up paying dearly for this miscalculation in Season 6.

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** He tends to dismiss the Starks as weak due in part to Their their noble nature. It's clear that [[HonorBeforeReason]] HonorBeforeReason is a completely foreign principle to Tywin. House Lannister ends up paying dearly for this miscalculation in Season 6.
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