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* NotEvilJustMisunderstood: Unlike Nidhogg's brood and the transformed Ishgardians that actively take part in the Dragonsong war. Other dragons just want to live in peace and have quests that can be done in ''Heavensward''. In fact, due to their distorted sense of time, many elder dragons you meet on good terms remember the time when human and dragon lived together fondly, and hope that those days will eventually return.

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* NotEvilJustMisunderstood: Unlike Nidhogg's brood and the transformed Ishgardians that actively take part in the Dragonsong war.War. Other dragons just want to live in peace and have quests that can be done in ''Heavensward''. In fact, due to their distorted sense of time, many elder dragons you meet on good terms remember the time when human and dragon lived together fondly, and hope that those days will eventually return.



* MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch: Subverted. Everyone takes Hraesvelgr's lack of involvement in the dragonsong war to be a sign of either distaste or disinterest and believe he can be made to help the war stop. In actuality, while he has no care for the war, he's most decidedly not on humanity's side because he's every bit as angry at humanity as Nidhogg for their transgressions and, were it not for Shiva's love and spirit keeping him soothed, more than likely would have joined his revenge-crazed brother. [[spoiler: In fact, pre-storyline he gave Nidhogg one of his eyes and thus half of his power, knowing exactly what Nidhogg would do with it.]]

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* MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch: Subverted. Everyone takes Hraesvelgr's lack of involvement in the dragonsong war Dragonsong War to be a sign of either distaste or disinterest and believe he can be made to help the war stop. In actuality, while he has no care for the war, he's most decidedly not on humanity's side because he's every bit as angry at humanity as Nidhogg for their transgressions and, were it not for Shiva's love and spirit keeping him soothed, more than likely would have joined his revenge-crazed brother. [[spoiler: In fact, pre-storyline he gave Nidhogg one of his eyes and thus half of his power, knowing exactly what Nidhogg would do with it.]]



* MeaningfulName: His name is derived from the dragon of Myth/NorseMythology whose name means "Malice Striker" or "Corpse Eater". The Nidhogg of myth would gnaw at the roots of the world tree Yggdrasil and drank the blood of sinners who waded into his domain. [[spoiler:The Nidhogg of the story was driven to war with Ishgard over the murder of his sister, Ratatoskr and the removal of his own eyes. The Nidhogg of myth also regularly spoke with the squirrel Ratatoskr, who ferried messages up and down the world tree, much like how Nidhogg was devastated by Ratatoskr's murder.]]

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* MeaningfulName: His name is derived from the dragon of Myth/NorseMythology whose name means "Malice Striker" or "Corpse Eater".Striker". The Nidhogg of myth would gnaw at the roots of the world tree Yggdrasil and drank the blood of sinners who waded into his domain. [[spoiler:The Nidhogg of the story was driven to war with Ishgard over the murder of his sister, Ratatoskr and the removal of his own eyes. The Nidhogg of myth also regularly spoke with the squirrel Ratatoskr, who ferried messages up and down the world tree, much like how Nidhogg was devastated by Ratatoskr's murder.]]



* ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming: Myth/NorseMythology and the one leading the Horde in the Dragonsong War.

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* ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming: Nidhogg is named after the wyrm from Myth/NorseMythology and the one leading the Horde in the Dragonsong War.



* StarCrossedLover: [[spoiler: With the dragon Faunehm, it was at his request that the Dragoon player character and his son Orn Khai go to seek her out. Their love was genuine, but when Nidhogg started the Dragonsong war he pleaded that she not join the fight and possibly die for her father's vengeance, and instead flee as far as she could. She listened, but went insane in the process due to resisting Nidhogg's CompellingVoice and a thousand years of isolation from her kindred.]]

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* StarCrossedLover: [[spoiler: With the dragon Faunehm, it was at his request that the Dragoon player character and his son Orn Khai go to seek her out. Their love was genuine, but when Nidhogg started the Dragonsong war War he pleaded that she not join the fight and possibly die for her father's vengeance, and instead flee as far as she could. She listened, but went insane in the process due to resisting Nidhogg's CompellingVoice and a thousand years of isolation from her kindred.]]
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* IfIWantedYouDead: Discussed. Between ''A Realm Reborn'' and ''Heavensward'', the barrier surrounding Ishgard falls thanks to Lady Iceheart and her heretics. So Nidhogg could attack Ishgard at any time and wipe them out, yet he doesn't. When the other characters wonder what Nidhogg is waiting for, Estinien has a EurekaMoment where he realizes that Nidhogg isn't going to wipe them out; his vengeance is keeping Ishgard locked in a ForeverWar so that they will never know peace and comfort. Hraesvelgr eventually confirms outright that this is what Nidhogg's ultimate goal is, which shifts the mood of how to deal with Nidhogg considerably.

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* IfIWantedYouDead: Discussed. Between ''A Realm Reborn'' and ''Heavensward'', the dragon-warding barrier surrounding Ishgard falls thanks to Lady Iceheart and her heretics. So With this barrier gone, Nidhogg could now attack Ishgard at any time and wipe them out, the Ishgardians out in one fell swoop, yet he doesn't. Nidhogg does nothing. When the other characters heroes wonder what Nidhogg is waiting for, Estinien has a EurekaMoment where he realizes that Nidhogg isn't going to wipe them out; waiting for anything; his vengeance is keeping ultimate goal isn't wiping Ishgard out. Instead, he intends to keep Ishgard locked in a ForeverWar so that they will never know peace and comfort.[[HopelessWar constantly be driven towards despair with how they can never win]]. Hraesvelgr eventually confirms outright that this is what Nidhogg's ultimate goal is, which shifts the mood of how to deal with Nidhogg considerably.
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''Class and Job Questlines'': [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfWar Disciples of War]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfMagic Disciples of Magic]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfTheHand Disciples of the Hand]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfTheLand Disciples of the Land]]\\

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''Class and Job Questlines'': [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfWar Disciples of War]] ([[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfWarTank Tank]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfWarMelee Melee]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfWarRanged Ranged]]) | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfMagic Disciples of Magic]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfTheHand Disciples of the Hand]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVDisciplesOfTheLand Disciples of the Land]]\\
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''Antagonists'': [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVAscians Ascians]] ([[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVEmetSelch Emet-Selch]]) | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVGarleanEmpire Garlean Empire]] ([[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVZenosYaeGalvus Zenos yae Galvus]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVBozjanGarleans Bozjan Garleans]]) \\

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''Antagonists'': [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVAscians Ascians]] ([[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVEmetSelch Emet-Selch]]) | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVGarleanEmpire Garlean Empire]] ([[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVZenosYaeGalvus ([[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVGaiusVanBaelsar Gaius van Baelsar]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVZenosYaeGalvus Zenos yae Galvus]] | [[Characters/FinalFantasyXIVBozjanGarleans Bozjan Garleans]]) \\

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* LightningBruiser: Elder wyrms are each a force to be reckoned with, as they're massive with the strength to match while also being capable of flying at incredible speeds. These wyrms also tend to be masters of magicks, raining hell from the skies when angered.



* NotSoStoic: While it is very subtle, you can hear the sadness in the dragon's voice when he sees his child, Tiamat, is bound by chains and had chosen to stay that way until the end of the world because she's punishing herself for consorting with the Ascians, whom had given her the power to bring her brother, Bahamut, back as a primal. Midgarsormr also displays a hint of sadness when he sees Nidhogg comes back from the dead and wonders what had happened to his child that caused him to still be full of hatred.

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* NotSoStoic: While it is very subtle, you can hear the sadness in the dragon's voice when he sees his child, Tiamat, is bound by chains and had chosen to stay that way until the end of the world because she's punishing herself for consorting with the Ascians, whom had given her the power to bring her brother, Bahamut, back as a primal. Midgarsormr Midgardsormr also displays a hint of sadness when he sees Nidhogg comes back from the dead and wonders what had happened to his child that caused him to still be full of hatred.



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Midgardsormr is cold if not indifferent towards humanity and barely recognizes the Warrior of Light as worthy; however when it comes to his own children he is notably more open when it comes to his emotions. Showing concern and sorrow towards Nidhogg and Tiamat both of whom are suffering in completely different ways; and when it comes to Hraesvelgr even Midgardsormr is moved by how less of damn Hraesvelgr gives about ending the Dragonsong War. It really says something when Midgardsormr tells Hraesvelgr that if he keeps being indifferent then he would just be causing more suffering.

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: OOCIsSeriousBusiness:
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Midgardsormr is cold if not indifferent towards humanity and barely recognizes the Warrior of Light as worthy; however when it comes to his own children he is notably more open when it comes to his emotions. Showing concern and sorrow towards Nidhogg and Tiamat both of whom are suffering in completely different ways; and when it comes to Hraesvelgr even Midgardsormr is moved by how less of damn Hraesvelgr gives about ending the Dragonsong War. It really says something when Midgardsormr tells Hraesvelgr that if he keeps being indifferent then he would just be causing more suffering.



* StarCrossedLover: [[spoiler: With the dragon Faunehm, it was at his request that the Dragoon player character and his son Orn Khai go to seek her out. Their love was genuine, but when Nidhogg started the Dragonsong war he pleaded that she not join the fight and possibly die for her father's vengeance, and instead flee as far as she could. She listened, but went insane in the process due to resisting Nidhogg's CompellingVoice, and a thousand years of isolation from her kindred.]]

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* StarCrossedLover: [[spoiler: With the dragon Faunehm, it was at his request that the Dragoon player character and his son Orn Khai go to seek her out. Their love was genuine, but when Nidhogg started the Dragonsong war he pleaded that she not join the fight and possibly die for her father's vengeance, and instead flee as far as she could. She listened, but went insane in the process due to resisting Nidhogg's CompellingVoice, CompellingVoice and a thousand years of isolation from her kindred.]]



* DidntSeeThatComing: She genuinely believes herself to be Shiva reborn, thanks to her ability to transform into the Primal without losing herself, and an obstinately firm consideration that Shiva was a genuine god and deity she was calling for support. Then she meets Hraesvelgr thinking this connection will be able to help her speak with him. [[spoiler:He coldly brushes her off and points out that the Primals are nothing more than man's imagination and embellishment upon historical figures; the Shiva that Ysayle became was effectively fiction made manifest and she was all but fantasizing herself being the tragic heroine reincarnated. Combined with the rest of Hraesvelgr's revelations such as his enabling of Nidhogg's vengeful genocide, this one is among the biggest that sends her into a raw breakdown.]]

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* DidntSeeThatComing: She genuinely believes herself to be Shiva reborn, thanks to her ability to transform into the Primal primal without losing herself, and an obstinately firm consideration that Shiva was a genuine god and deity she was calling for support. Then she meets Hraesvelgr thinking this connection will be able to help her speak with him. [[spoiler:He coldly brushes her off and points out that the Primals primals are nothing more than man's imagination and embellishment upon historical figures; the Shiva that Ysayle became was effectively fiction made manifest and she was all but fantasizing herself being the tragic heroine reincarnated. Combined with the rest of Hraesvelgr's revelations such as his enabling of Nidhogg's vengeful genocide, this one is among the biggest that sends her into a raw mental breakdown.]]



* FatalFlaw: '''Presumption.''' She has a bad habit of thinking that since she knows more about the history and origins of the Dragonsong War than everyone else does, she also knows ''better'' than everyone else. Despite the attack on the Steps of Faith playing out exactly how centuries of Ishgardian tradition and history would suggest, Ysayle is horrified at the destruction and defends her enabling said attack by saying it wasn't supposed to happen that way. [[spoiler:She also believes that her ability to manifest Shiva as a Primal into herself means she is Shiva's reincarnation, only to have a rude awakening when Hraesvelgr explains the Primal is simply the manifestation of Ysayle's own beliefs, nothing more. The fact that she presumes to know Shiva better than Shiva's lover only adds to Hraesvelgr's anger at her, and it's part of what causes Ysayle to enter a HeroicBSOD.]]

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* FatalFlaw: '''Presumption.''' She has a bad habit of thinking that since she knows more about the history and origins of the Dragonsong War than everyone else does, she also knows ''better'' than everyone else. Despite the attack on the Steps of Faith playing out exactly how centuries of Ishgardian tradition and history would suggest, Ysayle is horrified at the destruction and defends her enabling said attack by saying it wasn't supposed to happen that way. [[spoiler:She also believes that her ability to manifest Shiva as a Primal primal into herself means she is Shiva's reincarnation, only to have a rude awakening when Hraesvelgr explains the Primal primal is simply the manifestation of Ysayle's own beliefs, nothing more. The fact that she presumes to know Shiva better than Shiva's lover only adds to Hraesvelgr's anger at her, and it's part of what causes Ysayle to enter a HeroicBSOD.]]



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: She genuinely believed that Nidhogg and his horde are pursuing a righteous retribution against Ishgard and gives them access to the city so they can pursue exactly that, only to be shocked and appalled when the dragons indiscriminately slaughtered the city's residents until driven off. When she later claims Nidhogg is attacking the city to reclaim his stolen eye, Estinien points out that the eye is not in Ishgard, he has it in his possession, yet the dragon is ignoring him in favor of attacking Ishgard. She also considers [[spoiler:Hraesvelgr a wise and compassionate person due to his role in the history of Dravanina and relationship with Shiva, only to be shocked to learn he directly and deliberately enabled Nidhogg's bloody campaign and is content to sit on his mountain brooding while both man and dragon tear each other apart.]]

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: She genuinely believed that Nidhogg and his horde are pursuing a righteous retribution against Ishgard and gives them access to the city so they can pursue exactly that, only to be shocked and appalled when the dragons indiscriminately slaughtered the city's residents until driven off. When she later claims Nidhogg is attacking the city to reclaim his stolen eye, Estinien points out that the eye is not in Ishgard, he has it in his possession, yet the dragon is ignoring him in favor of attacking Ishgard. She also considers [[spoiler:Hraesvelgr a wise and compassionate person due to his role in the history of Dravanina Dravania and relationship with Shiva, only to be shocked to learn he directly and deliberately enabled Nidhogg's bloody campaign and is content to sit on his mountain brooding while both man and dragon tear each other apart.]]



* SpannerInTheWorks: She ''completely'' derailed Thordan VII's plan of accruing more faith, and thus power, for his Primal summoning (by instigating war with the heretics and ''allowing'' them inside Ishgard's walls) when she returned with the Warrior of Light and Estinien to Ishgard. Whereas Thordan and the Heavens' Ward would have expected Iceheart to adamantly rally her invading heretic forces against the Temple Knights, she instead, being hot on the heels of the truth behind the Dragonsong War, goes throughout the city convincing her people to stand down, acknowledge the ''truth'' of the matter, and leave Ishgard in peace. This, coupled with Nidhogg's apparent death and Aymeric's public challenging of the lies that the Holy See perpetuated for centuries, prompts Thordan to hastily accelerate his Primal summoning plans.

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* SpannerInTheWorks: She ''completely'' derailed Thordan VII's plan of accruing more faith, and thus power, for his Primal primal summoning (by instigating war with the heretics and ''allowing'' them inside Ishgard's walls) when she returned with the Warrior of Light and Estinien to Ishgard. Whereas Thordan and the Heavens' Ward would have expected Iceheart to adamantly rally her invading heretic forces against the Temple Knights, she instead, being hot on the heels of the truth behind the Dragonsong War, goes throughout the city convincing her people to stand down, acknowledge the ''truth'' of the matter, and leave Ishgard in peace. This, coupled with Nidhogg's apparent death and Aymeric's public challenging of the lies that the Holy See perpetuated for centuries, prompts Thordan to hastily accelerate his Primal primal summoning plans.

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* ForeignQueasine: There is a side quest where a dragon wishes to sample different types of meat. They surprisingly do not like the taste of roasted chocobo and wonder how humans can enjoy such things.



* OurDragonsAreDifferent: Dravanians form a large and varied list of dragon types, from small dragonflies to giant turtles.

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* OurDragonsAreDifferent: Dravanians form a large and varied list of dragon types, from small dragonflies dragonets to giant turtles.turtles. Ironically, there's a monster called a Dragonfly that doesn't count as a dragon and is instead a scalekin.

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!!!Voiced by: Creator/MaayaUchida (JP), Salli Saffioti (EN, Los Angeles cast), Siobhan Hewlett (EN, London cast), Laurence Crouzet (FR), Sonja Firker (DE)

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!!!Voiced by: Creator/MaayaUchida (JP), Salli Saffioti (EN, Los Angeles cast), Siobhan Hewlett (EN, London cast), Laurence Crouzet Creator/LaurenceCrouzet (FR), Sonja Firker (DE)



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