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* KilledOffForReal: Both of them die. Pin killed Tulip to save his own ass and is himself later killed by the protagonists in self-defence.
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* BondVillainStupidity: GenreSavvy Mr. Tulip notices something is wrong when Mr. Pin fails to kill Mr. Slant ([[KillItWithFire with fire]], from which even a zombie would be hard-pressed to come back) and mutters something about "I think I shall let you live today."
* BrainsAndBrawn: Pin is the brains, Tulip is the brawn (outside of [[HiddenDepths his encyclopaedic knowledge of art]]).
* ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve: Mr. Tulip believes, but he doesn't believe in anything in particular, which causes something of a problem [[spoiler:after he dies.]]
* ClusterBleepBomb: Played with. Somehow Mr. Tulip actually pronounces the dash.
* DeathEqualsRedemption: It helps if [[TheGrimReaper Death]] gives you a little post-mortem therapy to help with the redemption. [[spoiler:However, as Mr. Pin finds out too late, redemption is only possible if you're ''sincere'' about your regret for your crimes... ]]
* FakeHigh: Mr. Tulip [[BeatBag never seems to get his hands on real drugs]], but that doesn't stop him from claiming it keeps his mind sharp.
* FreudianExcuse: [[NoodleIncident Something very bad]] happened to Mr. Tulip as a child.
* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Both of them die. Pin killed Tulip to save his own ass and is himself later killed by the protagonists inself-defence.self-defence]].
* BrainsAndBrawn: Pin is the brains, Tulip is the brawn (outside of [[HiddenDepths his encyclopaedic knowledge of art]]).
* ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve: Mr. Tulip believes, but he doesn't believe in anything in particular, which causes something of a problem [[spoiler:after he dies.]]
* ClusterBleepBomb: Played with. Somehow Mr. Tulip actually pronounces the dash.
* DeathEqualsRedemption: It helps if [[TheGrimReaper Death]] gives you a little post-mortem therapy to help with the redemption. [[spoiler:However, as Mr. Pin finds out too late, redemption is only possible if you're ''sincere'' about your regret for your crimes... ]]
* FakeHigh: Mr. Tulip [[BeatBag never seems to get his hands on real drugs]], but that doesn't stop him from claiming it keeps his mind sharp.
* FreudianExcuse: [[NoodleIncident Something very bad]] happened to Mr. Tulip as a child.
* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Both of them die. Pin killed Tulip to save his own ass and is himself later killed by the protagonists in
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* BegoneBribe: [[spoiler: William pays his father a generous estimate of what it cost to raise him in order to sever any remaining ties between them. The money isn't the thing, as Lord de Worde has gold in his DNA, but instead is based on the Dwarfish tradition in which betrothed dwarves buy one another from their parents to symbolize their independence.]]
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* BegoneBribe: [[spoiler: William pays his father a generous estimate of what it cost to raise him in order to sever any remaining ties between them. The money isn't the thing, as Lord de Worde has gold in his DNA, but instead is based on the Dwarfish tradition in which betrothed dwarves buy one another from their parents to symbolize symbolise their independence.]]]]
* BerserkButton: He is one to William.
* CallingTheOldManOut: Eventually done by William to his father.
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Lord [=DeWorde=] is horrified to learn that the New Firm tried to kill William. It doesn't stop him from trying to ship William to another continent to stop his interference, but it's the thought that counts.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: In one meeting of the Committee To Unelect The Patrician, the lead shadowy figure says the novel's ArcWords ("A lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on"). This is a major hint to the reveal that Lord de Worde is the BigBad.
* BerserkButton: He is one to William.
* CallingTheOldManOut: Eventually done by William to his father.
* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Lord [=DeWorde=] is horrified to learn that the New Firm tried to kill William. It doesn't stop him from trying to ship William to another continent to stop his interference, but it's the thought that counts.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: In one meeting of the Committee To Unelect The Patrician, the lead shadowy figure says the novel's ArcWords ("A lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on"). This is a major hint to the reveal that Lord de Worde is the BigBad.
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* MotiveRant: Dee gives one complaining to Rhys about how should have kept the old ways but the old ways have fallen to the wayside as more and more dwarves openly admit that they are female. Dee caps this of with [[spoiler: "[[WhamLine I can't!]]"]].
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* MotiveRant: Dee gives one complaining to Rhys about how they should have kept the old ways but the old ways have fallen to the wayside as more and more dwarves openly admit that they are female. Dee caps this of with [[spoiler: "[[WhamLine I can't!]]"]].
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* BadDreams: Tulip has them.
* BadHabits: Mr. Pin dresses as an Omnian priest as a disguise, while Mr. Tulip dons a "Vestigial" Virgin's habit.
* BeatBag: Tulip never manages to buy any real drugs.
-->In a street where furtive people were selling Clang, Slap, Chop, Rhino, Skunk, Triplin, Floats, Honk, Double Honk, Gongers, and Slack, Mr. Tulip had an unerring way of finding the man who was retailing curry powder at what worked out as six hundred dollars a pound.
* KilledOffForReal: Both of them die. Pin killed Tulip to save his own ass and is himself later killed by the protagonists in self-defence.
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[[folder:Lord de Worde]]
The mastermind of the plot to overthrow Vetinari in ''Discworld/TheTruth''.
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* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Interestingly, even though it's specifically said that he never gets his hands dirty with violence -- he has men for that -- he seems to be pretty good with a sword in the final confrontation. Of course, facing [[spoiler:a vampire]], that doesn't help him very much... William does mention several times that the one thing the de Wordes are expected to excel at is charging into battle.
* BegoneBribe: [[spoiler: William pays his father a generous estimate of what it cost to raise him in order to sever any remaining ties between them. The money isn't the thing, as Lord de Worde has gold in his DNA, but instead is based on the Dwarfish tradition in which betrothed dwarves buy one another from their parents to symbolize their independence.]]
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* BadHabits: Mr. Pin dresses as an Omnian priest as a disguise, while Mr. Tulip dons a "Vestigial" Virgin's habit.
* BeatBag: Tulip never manages to buy any real drugs.
-->In a street where furtive people were selling Clang, Slap, Chop, Rhino, Skunk, Triplin, Floats, Honk, Double Honk, Gongers, and Slack, Mr. Tulip had an unerring way of finding the man who was retailing curry powder at what worked out as six hundred dollars a pound.
* KilledOffForReal: Both of them die. Pin killed Tulip to save his own ass and is himself later killed by the protagonists in self-defence.
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[[folder:Lord de Worde]]
The mastermind of the plot to overthrow Vetinari in ''Discworld/TheTruth''.
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* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Interestingly, even though it's specifically said that he never gets his hands dirty with violence -- he has men for that -- he seems to be pretty good with a sword in the final confrontation. Of course, facing [[spoiler:a vampire]], that doesn't help him very much... William does mention several times that the one thing the de Wordes are expected to excel at is charging into battle.
* BegoneBribe: [[spoiler: William pays his father a generous estimate of what it cost to raise him in order to sever any remaining ties between them. The money isn't the thing, as Lord de Worde has gold in his DNA, but instead is based on the Dwarfish tradition in which betrothed dwarves buy one another from their parents to symbolize their independence.]]
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* GenreSavvy: They train themselves to overcome vampire weaknesses, and mock the old count for his HammerHorror style GenreBlindness - easily-opened curtains, objects easily broken into holy symbols and stakes, copious holy water, etc. {{Subverted}} however, when it turns out the Old Count is far more GenreSavvy than his offspring. He deliberately allows humans to exploit his weaknesses so that, being an easily dispatched villain and giving the village boys something to feel good about, he is never KilledOffForReal.
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* GenreSavvy: They train themselves to overcome vampire weaknesses, and mock the old count for his HammerHorror Film/HammerHorror style GenreBlindness - easily-opened curtains, objects easily broken into holy symbols and stakes, copious holy water, etc. {{Subverted}} however, when it turns out the Old Count is far more GenreSavvy than his offspring. He deliberately allows humans to exploit his weaknesses so that, being an easily dispatched villain and giving the village boys something to feel good about, he is never KilledOffForReal.
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* SmugSnake: He actually ''showed'' Vimes a vital clue early on in the story. Though to be fair, Vimes didn't realise it until much later in the book.
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* SmugSnake: He actually ''showed'' Vimes a vital clue early on in the story. Though to be fair, Vimes didn't realise it until much later in the book.
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* VillainousBreakdown: At the end, Dee is confirmed to have done it all specifically because of the growing [[spoiler: Dwarf Femininity movement in Ankh-Morpork]]. Anyone who has been around a [[spoiler: {{Transgender}}]] person when they're first realizing what's going on inside them [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything could probably have quoted significant chunks of that discussion and the one that came afterward.]]
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* JustToyingWithThem: Wolf and his cronies like to play with their food. As Angua points out, not even Vimes would have stood a chance if they'd just rushed him at once instead of giving him a "lead" and harassing him one at a time. Luckily for Vimes, they didn't know he had reinforcements coming.
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Vimes kills Wolfgang with the distress flare from the clacks tower that his pack killed the operators of - the one the men never had a chance to use]].
* KillItWithFire: Fire and silver are the typical ways to dispatch werewolves. [[spoiler: Vimes takes this to heart and launches a flare at Wolf, expecting him to catch it in his mouth]].
* KingpinInHisGym: Wolfgang likes to give his muscles an airing.
* NeverHeardThatOneBefore: When Vimes comments on Wolfgang having that name while being a werewolf.
* NotSoDifferent: After Wolfgang's disappearance, Vimes explains to Sybil why he keeps his guard up by describing Wolfgang as "bottle covey" - someone who does not quit no matter how soundly he has been trounced. Sybil [[LampshadeHanging remarks]] that it sounds like someone she knows well.
* PostClimaxConfrontation: His last confrontation with Vimes happens after the plot has been solved.
* PuttingOnTheReich: Wolfgang and Co.
* ShapeshifterModeLock: Apparently a common birth defect in werewolves. Angua had a human-shaped sister and a wolf-shaped brother; Wolfgang killed the former and chased off the latter.
* ShapeshifterSwanSong: Downplayed -- when [[spoiler:Wolfgang comes back the last time, he seems to be having trouble controlling his transformations, and is wobbling around the halfway point between man and wolf.]]
* TemptingFate: A subtle example appears in Wolfgang's chosen symbol of a wolf's head biting a mouthful of lightning bolts. [[spoiler: Granted, they're not literal fireworks, but symbolically it rates as this trope.]]
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Vimes kills Wolfgang with the distress flare from the clacks tower that his pack killed the operators of - the one the men never had a chance to use]].
* KillItWithFire: Fire and silver are the typical ways to dispatch werewolves. [[spoiler: Vimes takes this to heart and launches a flare at Wolf, expecting him to catch it in his mouth]].
* KingpinInHisGym: Wolfgang likes to give his muscles an airing.
* NeverHeardThatOneBefore: When Vimes comments on Wolfgang having that name while being a werewolf.
* NotSoDifferent: After Wolfgang's disappearance, Vimes explains to Sybil why he keeps his guard up by describing Wolfgang as "bottle covey" - someone who does not quit no matter how soundly he has been trounced. Sybil [[LampshadeHanging remarks]] that it sounds like someone she knows well.
* PostClimaxConfrontation: His last confrontation with Vimes happens after the plot has been solved.
* PuttingOnTheReich: Wolfgang and Co.
* ShapeshifterModeLock: Apparently a common birth defect in werewolves. Angua had a human-shaped sister and a wolf-shaped brother; Wolfgang killed the former and chased off the latter.
* ShapeshifterSwanSong: Downplayed -- when [[spoiler:Wolfgang comes back the last time, he seems to be having trouble controlling his transformations, and is wobbling around the halfway point between man and wolf.]]
* TemptingFate: A subtle example appears in Wolfgang's chosen symbol of a wolf's head biting a mouthful of lightning bolts. [[spoiler: Granted, they're not literal fireworks, but symbolically it rates as this trope.]]
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* MotiveRant: Dee gives one complaining to Rhys about how should have kept the old ways but the old ways have fallen to the wayside as more and more dwarves openly admit that they are female. Dee caps this of with [[spoiler: "[[WhamLine I can't!]]"]].
* UnsettlingGenderReveal: [[spoiler: Dee outs herself as female at the end of her MotiveRant]].
* WhamLine: Near the end of the book, the words [[spoiler:"I can't!"]] turn the nature of the EvilPlan on its head. In that one short sentence, it shows that while the conspiracy was perpetrated by traditionalists, it also showed that [[spoiler: ''jealousy'' was a significant factor too]].
* YouAreWhatYouHate: Dee is revealed to be this during the climax.
* UnsettlingGenderReveal: [[spoiler: Dee outs herself as female at the end of her MotiveRant]].
* WhamLine: Near the end of the book, the words [[spoiler:"I can't!"]] turn the nature of the EvilPlan on its head. In that one short sentence, it shows that while the conspiracy was perpetrated by traditionalists, it also showed that [[spoiler: ''jealousy'' was a significant factor too]].
* YouAreWhatYouHate: Dee is revealed to be this during the climax.
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* AxCrazy: Partly because he doesn't bother trying to control his violent nature as a werewolf and partly because he has been brought up by a family of [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Fantasy Nazis]].
* BatmanGambit: Wolfgang and the other Game-playing werewolves employ this trope to put [[spoiler: Sleeps and Skimmer]] right where they want them.
* ConvenientEscapeBoat: {{Subverted}} and {{Invoked}}, because werewolves really are ''very'' clever.
* DangerTakesABackseat: Wolfgang's pack are fond of a low-tech variant, waiting under a tarp in a ''rowboat'' for an unsuspecting quarry to climb aboard.
* {{Determinator}}: Even after falling of a waterfall, he isn't finished yet, leading to the PostClimaxConfrontation.
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[[folder:Dee]]
The other of the two villains in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant''. Dee is the Ideas Taster for the King.
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* BoomerangBigot: [[spoiler:Ideas Taster Dee. Dee hates the fact that there are dwarfs who are openly female. The primary reason is that Dee is jealous ''they'' could do it while ''she'' can't]].
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* BatmanGambit: Wolfgang and the other Game-playing werewolves employ this trope to put [[spoiler: Sleeps and Skimmer]] right where they want them.
* ConvenientEscapeBoat: {{Subverted}} and {{Invoked}}, because werewolves really are ''very'' clever.
* DangerTakesABackseat: Wolfgang's pack are fond of a low-tech variant, waiting under a tarp in a ''rowboat'' for an unsuspecting quarry to climb aboard.
* {{Determinator}}: Even after falling of a waterfall, he isn't finished yet, leading to the PostClimaxConfrontation.
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[[folder:Dee]]
The other of the two villains in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant''. Dee is the Ideas Taster for the King.
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* BoomerangBigot: [[spoiler:Ideas Taster Dee. Dee hates the fact that there are dwarfs who are openly female. The primary reason is that Dee is jealous ''they'' could do it while ''she'' can't]].
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A family of vampires who are the villains of ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum''. They consist of the Count de Magpyr, and their adult children, Vlad and Lacrimosa.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Count, to a little extent. When Lacrimosa mentions they should put Granny out of her misery, she likens it to when the Count said the same thing about her cat. The Count clarifies that what he really meant was for her to stop what she was doing to it.
* GenreSavvy: They train themselves to overcome vampire weaknesses, and mock the old count for his HammerHorror style GenreBlindness - easily-opened curtains, objects easily broken into holy symbols and stakes, copious holy water, etc. {{Subverted}} however, when it turns out the Old Count is far more GenreSavvy than his offspring. He deliberately allows humans to exploit his weaknesses so that, being an easily dispatched villain and giving the village boys something to feel good about, he is never KilledOffForReal.
* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: The Count outright asks the villagers of Escrow to look at him, and then at the newly-resurrected previous Count, believing that the comparison will convince them that he's the better of the two. But VillainousBreakdown ensues when he realizes that being DangerouslyGenreSavvy is considered far, ''far'' worse than the old Count's intentional use of the VillainBall. Vlad gets this too, presumably, since he genuinely believes that the alternative for Escrow that his father offers is better than what it used to be.]]
* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou: Vampire mind control and mind reading doesn't work well on Agnes (because Perdita interferes). Vlad finds that fascinating.
* IndustrializedEvil: The [[spoiler: orderly and systematic blood-draining that takes place in the villages surrounding the Magpyr estate]] horrifies Agnes more than anything else the vampires do.
* NobleDemon: The Count views himself as this, [[WrongGenreSavvy but he's horribly wrong]].
* OurVampiresAreDifferent:
** Thanks to the Count training them with a little exposure at a time, the Magpyrs are not affected by traditional vampire weaknesses such as garlic, holy symbols, holy water, and sunlight.
** Also, the vampires of the Magpyr family turn into flocks of magpies instead of bats.
** They're also capable of conventional reproduction, as Vlad and Lacci were both born as vampires.
* PragmaticVillainy: The Count occasionally objects to his daughter's sadistic habits, but not for altruistic reasons. They discuss the phoenix, concluding that it's absurd for a bird to burn. After all, Lacrimosa tried with a chicken -- the count says that she really should have killed it first because at least then it would've been quieter.
* ReminiscingAboutYourVictims: The Count and Countess have a textbook example when they recall their honeymoon.
-->'''Countess:''' And we met such lovely people. Do you remember Mr and Mrs Harker?\\
'''Count:''' Very fondly. I recall they lasted nearly all week.
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: The Count uses his wealth to establish his own idea of order in his hometown.
* VillainousBreakdown: The Magpyrs go through this, as their idea of what "modern vampirism" is about gets stripped away, leaving the bloodthirsty, power-hungry monsters at their core.
* YourVampiresSuck: The Magpyrs practice this InUniverse toward their fellow vampires.
* GenreSavvy: They train themselves to overcome vampire weaknesses, and mock the old count for his HammerHorror style GenreBlindness - easily-opened curtains, objects easily broken into holy symbols and stakes, copious holy water, etc. {{Subverted}} however, when it turns out the Old Count is far more GenreSavvy than his offspring. He deliberately allows humans to exploit his weaknesses so that, being an easily dispatched villain and giving the village boys something to feel good about, he is never KilledOffForReal.
* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: The Count outright asks the villagers of Escrow to look at him, and then at the newly-resurrected previous Count, believing that the comparison will convince them that he's the better of the two. But VillainousBreakdown ensues when he realizes that being DangerouslyGenreSavvy is considered far, ''far'' worse than the old Count's intentional use of the VillainBall. Vlad gets this too, presumably, since he genuinely believes that the alternative for Escrow that his father offers is better than what it used to be.]]
* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou: Vampire mind control and mind reading doesn't work well on Agnes (because Perdita interferes). Vlad finds that fascinating.
* IndustrializedEvil: The [[spoiler: orderly and systematic blood-draining that takes place in the villages surrounding the Magpyr estate]] horrifies Agnes more than anything else the vampires do.
* NobleDemon: The Count views himself as this, [[WrongGenreSavvy but he's horribly wrong]].
* OurVampiresAreDifferent:
** Thanks to the Count training them with a little exposure at a time, the Magpyrs are not affected by traditional vampire weaknesses such as garlic, holy symbols, holy water, and sunlight.
** Also, the vampires of the Magpyr family turn into flocks of magpies instead of bats.
** They're also capable of conventional reproduction, as Vlad and Lacci were both born as vampires.
* PragmaticVillainy: The Count occasionally objects to his daughter's sadistic habits, but not for altruistic reasons. They discuss the phoenix, concluding that it's absurd for a bird to burn. After all, Lacrimosa tried with a chicken -- the count says that she really should have killed it first because at least then it would've been quieter.
* ReminiscingAboutYourVictims: The Count and Countess have a textbook example when they recall their honeymoon.
-->'''Countess:''' And we met such lovely people. Do you remember Mr and Mrs Harker?\\
'''Count:''' Very fondly. I recall they lasted nearly all week.
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: The Count uses his wealth to establish his own idea of order in his hometown.
* VillainousBreakdown: The Magpyrs go through this, as their idea of what "modern vampirism" is about gets stripped away, leaving the bloodthirsty, power-hungry monsters at their core.
* YourVampiresSuck: The Magpyrs practice this InUniverse toward their fellow vampires.
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* AboveGoodAndEvil: They ''claim'' to be AboveGoodAndEvil.
* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: The de Magpyrs have built up a tolerance to, among other things, garlic, holy water, sunlight, and OCD. This actually ends up backfiring on them, [[spoiler:when they realise that their weakness to holy symbols is dependent on them recognising the symbols, and their training has given them a ''very'' broad knowledge of holy symbols, many of which are common geometric figures]].
* AffablyEvil: Count de Magpyr insists that he is Affably Evil and talks like a self help guru. His attempts at being friendly and affable lead to him being [[FauxAffablyEvil a far greater horror]] than his genuinely AffablyEvil uncle.
* AssimilationBackfire: The [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Magpyrs]] suck Granny Weatherwax's blood and attempt to turn her. She survives the experience without becoming a vampire; the Magpyrs aren't so lucky, however, as feeding on Granny Weatherwax has allowed her to turn ''them.'' By the end, they're craving tea instead of blood and even ''talking'' like her.
* ClassicalMovieVampire: Count von Magpyr pointedly ''doesn't'' look like this. The Old Count ''does''.
* ContractualGenreBlindness: They consciously avoided this and took care to eliminate their weaknesses, but their attempts backfired, see above.
* DaywalkingVampire: They have gotten rid of their sunlight problems with the power of positive thinking.
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* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: The de Magpyrs have built up a tolerance to, among other things, garlic, holy water, sunlight, and OCD. This actually ends up backfiring on them, [[spoiler:when they realise that their weakness to holy symbols is dependent on them recognising the symbols, and their training has given them a ''very'' broad knowledge of holy symbols, many of which are common geometric figures]].
* AffablyEvil: Count de Magpyr insists that he is Affably Evil and talks like a self help guru. His attempts at being friendly and affable lead to him being [[FauxAffablyEvil a far greater horror]] than his genuinely AffablyEvil uncle.
* AssimilationBackfire: The [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Magpyrs]] suck Granny Weatherwax's blood and attempt to turn her. She survives the experience without becoming a vampire; the Magpyrs aren't so lucky, however, as feeding on Granny Weatherwax has allowed her to turn ''them.'' By the end, they're craving tea instead of blood and even ''talking'' like her.
* ClassicalMovieVampire: Count von Magpyr pointedly ''doesn't'' look like this. The Old Count ''does''.
* ContractualGenreBlindness: They consciously avoided this and took care to eliminate their weaknesses, but their attempts backfired, see above.
* DaywalkingVampire: They have gotten rid of their sunlight problems with the power of positive thinking.
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* AdaptationDistillation: Say what you will about the movie adaptation as a whole, their version of Teatime was so disturbingly convincing that it's likely to color your perception of him forever afterward.
* AxCrazy: He has a wonderful mind, like a shattered mirror - all facets and rainbows, glittering and sparkling. But ultimately, you can't get around that it's something ''broken''.
* CrazyPrepared: He spends his free time working out how to kill mythological figures, which comes in handy. Perhaps subverted in the fact that he spends his spare time planning to kill supposedly fictional or metaphorical characters simply because he has literally nothing else to do with his spare time. He's insane, and magically supplemented. 'Nuff said.
* DoubleJump: Somehow. [[spoiler:He's got a magical item as a glass eye. ''Discworld magic''. Being able to DoubleJump is the least of his abilities.]]
* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: "Teh-ah-tim-eh"
* KickTheDog: One of the first things we learn about him is that he ''nailed someone's dog to the ceiling'' to stop it from barking.
* PsychoForHire: This guy is a mad man, and he was given the task of killing the Hogfather.
* PsychopathicManchild: Oh boy, this guy kills people the very moment they stop being useful to him, all while maintaining a childish immaturity. The effect is rather creepy, to say the least.
* RedRightHand: His MismatchedEyes, which are the trope image.
* SelfMadeOrphan: Heavily implied.
* SlasherSmile: Mr. Teatime really, ''really'' enjoys his job.
* TheSociopath: Mr. Teatime sees things differently from people; he sees people as things.
* StupidEvil: Teatime ''immediately'' kills anyone who stops being of use to him, with no thought to the long-term consequences or even whether or not this person might become useful again later. If he'd survived the mission, the Assassins and Thieves would likely have had him killed just because of all the incredibly valuable experts he went through. Combined with {{The Sociopath}}: he's physically incapable of thinking of people as anything beyond 'assets' beyond the moment. It's anything but a justification for him, but quite a justification for Downey [[spoiler:not particularly minding that he dies.]]
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: Teatime's nature becomes disturbingly plain when Downey reproaches him for the enthusiasm with which he inhumed not only the client, but two servants and a guard-dog who might have been in the way. Teatime made ''very'' sure his client was dead. He even checked for breath with a mirror while the man's head was several feet from his body.
* UhOhEyes: Doubly so when you remember that on Discworld nothing can change the person's eyes...
* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Pretty much everybody he employs.
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[[folder:Carcer Dun]]
The BigBad of ''{{Discworld/Night Watch}}'', he's a SerialKiller being pursued by Vimes.
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* AxCrazy: He has a wonderful mind, like a shattered mirror - all facets and rainbows, glittering and sparkling. But ultimately, you can't get around that it's something ''broken''.
* CrazyPrepared: He spends his free time working out how to kill mythological figures, which comes in handy. Perhaps subverted in the fact that he spends his spare time planning to kill supposedly fictional or metaphorical characters simply because he has literally nothing else to do with his spare time. He's insane, and magically supplemented. 'Nuff said.
* DoubleJump: Somehow. [[spoiler:He's got a magical item as a glass eye. ''Discworld magic''. Being able to DoubleJump is the least of his abilities.]]
* ItIsPronouncedTroPAY: "Teh-ah-tim-eh"
* KickTheDog: One of the first things we learn about him is that he ''nailed someone's dog to the ceiling'' to stop it from barking.
* PsychoForHire: This guy is a mad man, and he was given the task of killing the Hogfather.
* PsychopathicManchild: Oh boy, this guy kills people the very moment they stop being useful to him, all while maintaining a childish immaturity. The effect is rather creepy, to say the least.
* RedRightHand: His MismatchedEyes, which are the trope image.
* SelfMadeOrphan: Heavily implied.
* SlasherSmile: Mr. Teatime really, ''really'' enjoys his job.
* TheSociopath: Mr. Teatime sees things differently from people; he sees people as things.
* StupidEvil: Teatime ''immediately'' kills anyone who stops being of use to him, with no thought to the long-term consequences or even whether or not this person might become useful again later. If he'd survived the mission, the Assassins and Thieves would likely have had him killed just because of all the incredibly valuable experts he went through. Combined with {{The Sociopath}}: he's physically incapable of thinking of people as anything beyond 'assets' beyond the moment. It's anything but a justification for him, but quite a justification for Downey [[spoiler:not particularly minding that he dies.]]
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: Teatime's nature becomes disturbingly plain when Downey reproaches him for the enthusiasm with which he inhumed not only the client, but two servants and a guard-dog who might have been in the way. Teatime made ''very'' sure his client was dead. He even checked for breath with a mirror while the man's head was several feet from his body.
* UhOhEyes: Doubly so when you remember that on Discworld nothing can change the person's eyes...
* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Pretty much everybody he employs.
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* KarmaHoudini: Vimes was worried that Dragon would get away with what he did due to how influential he was. He managed to [[SubvertedTrope subvert]] the trope by destroying all of his records on the noble lineages in the city, which Dragon has been working on for ''centuries''. Vetinary told Vimes that when Dragon heard that his work has been destroyed, he gave a spectacular scream.
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* ButForMeItWasTuesday[=/=]NominalImportance: Part of what drives Vimes to rage is that spoiler:Dragon didn't know who Mrs Easy and her child were and probably doesn't care that they died as collateral damage due to his machinations.
* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: Dragon King of Arms loves his heraldic wordplay. This becomes important later, as it turns out one of these "jokes" was a vital clue.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard[=/=]PoeticJustice: [[spoiler:Subverted. Vimes claims to have put holy water in the wick of the candle that was lighting the room in which he confronted Dragon, but is implied to be bluffing. Played straight shortly after, when Vimes, upon realising that Dragon is too influential for Vetinari to punish, uses the very same candle to burn the genealogies which Dragon has worked on for centuries.]]
* [[IncrediblyLamePun Incredibly Lame Pune Or Play On Words]]: Made several. Some are in fact clues to the murder plot.
* KarmaHoudini: Vimes was worried that Dragon would get away with what he did due to how influential hewas. He was but he managed to [[SubvertedTrope subvert]] the trope by destroying all trope. See above.
* LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair: Dragon King of Arms (whose long life grants him a certain perspective on these things) reflects:
--> Men said things like "[[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain peace in our time]]" or "[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler an empire that will last a thousand years]]," and less than half a lifetime later no one even remembered who they were, let alone what they had said or where the mob had buried their ashes.
* ObviouslyEvil: Made apparent in hisrecords on ''second'' scene if not the noble lineages first. It's part of the reason the book's a ''how''dun nit rather than a whodunnit.
* SmugSnake: He actually ''showed'' Vimes a vital clue early on in thecity, which Dragon has been working on for ''centuries''. Vetinary told story. Though to be fair, Vimes that when Dragon heard that his work has been destroyed, he gave a spectacular scream.didn't realise it until much later in the book.
* VerbalTic: Dragon, ahaha, King of Arms.
* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: Dragon King of Arms loves his heraldic wordplay. This becomes important later, as it turns out one of these "jokes" was a vital clue.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard[=/=]PoeticJustice: [[spoiler:Subverted. Vimes claims to have put holy water in the wick of the candle that was lighting the room in which he confronted Dragon, but is implied to be bluffing. Played straight shortly after, when Vimes, upon realising that Dragon is too influential for Vetinari to punish, uses the very same candle to burn the genealogies which Dragon has worked on for centuries.]]
* [[IncrediblyLamePun Incredibly Lame Pune Or Play On Words]]: Made several. Some are in fact clues to the murder plot.
* KarmaHoudini: Vimes was worried that Dragon would get away with what he did due to how influential he
* LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair: Dragon King of Arms (whose long life grants him a certain perspective on these things) reflects:
--> Men said things like "[[UsefulNotes/NevilleChamberlain peace in our time]]" or "[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler an empire that will last a thousand years]]," and less than half a lifetime later no one even remembered who they were, let alone what they had said or where the mob had buried their ashes.
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* {{Corpsing}}: A blink-and-you'll-miss-it subversion towards the end, when [[spoiler: Andre, the Cable Street Particular who'd been investigating the goings-on at the opera house, mentions that Salzella's cooling body needs to be dealt with]].
* DeadpanSnarker: He takes it so far he almost becomes the MetaGuy who subsists on BlackComedy.
* DoingItForTheArt: InUniverse example: Salzella tells Mr. Bucket this is the reason why anyone produces opera, as it makes no money. [[spoiler:It turns out he's lying through his teeth, as he's stealing all the profits and actually ''hates'' opera with a passion.]]
* DudeNotFunny: In-universe example. Salzella makes several jokes about people who have just been murdered; Mr. Bucket finds them distasteful. Once it was revealed that Salzella was the one committing the murders, it becomes a bit HarsherInHindsight.
* FallingChandelierOfDoom: ''Tries'' to invoke this but was thankfully thwarted in the attempt.
* FrameUp: Part of his plan involved framing Walter for all the crimes he did by impersonating as Walter's alter ego The Ghost.
* HypocriticalHumor: Gives a long FinalSpeech about how ridiculous opera conventions like the long FinalSpeech are. This comes not long after he claims to be the OnlySaneMan, using multiple exclamation marks (a sure sign of madness).
* LampshadeHanging: Just listen to his death rant:
-->"... and the ''worst'' thing about opera is the way everyone takes... such[[SanitySlippage !!!]] ... a[[SanitySlippage !!!!]] long[[SanitySlippage !!!!!]] time!!!!! ... to!!!!! ...argh...argh...argh...." ''(dies)''.
* OnlySaneMan: Salzella ''believed'' himself to be this but it becomes clear that he is very wrong: "You don't know what it has been like, I assure you, being the only sane man in this madhouse!!"
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The BigBad of ''{{Discworld/Night Watch}}'', he's a SerialKiller being pursued by Vimes.
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* DeadpanSnarker: He takes it so far he almost becomes the MetaGuy who subsists on BlackComedy.
* DoingItForTheArt: InUniverse example: Salzella tells Mr. Bucket this is the reason why anyone produces opera, as it makes no money. [[spoiler:It turns out he's lying through his teeth, as he's stealing all the profits and actually ''hates'' opera with a passion.]]
* DudeNotFunny: In-universe example. Salzella makes several jokes about people who have just been murdered; Mr. Bucket finds them distasteful. Once it was revealed that Salzella was the one committing the murders, it becomes a bit HarsherInHindsight.
* FallingChandelierOfDoom: ''Tries'' to invoke this but was thankfully thwarted in the attempt.
* FrameUp: Part of his plan involved framing Walter for all the crimes he did by impersonating as Walter's alter ego The Ghost.
* HypocriticalHumor: Gives a long FinalSpeech about how ridiculous opera conventions like the long FinalSpeech are. This comes not long after he claims to be the OnlySaneMan, using multiple exclamation marks (a sure sign of madness).
* LampshadeHanging: Just listen to his death rant:
-->"... and the ''worst'' thing about opera is the way everyone takes... such[[SanitySlippage !!!]] ... a[[SanitySlippage !!!!]] long[[SanitySlippage !!!!!]] time!!!!! ... to!!!!! ...argh...argh...argh...." ''(dies)''.
* OnlySaneMan: Salzella ''believed'' himself to be this but it becomes clear that he is very wrong: "You don't know what it has been like, I assure you, being the only sane man in this madhouse!!"
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* ScaryShinyGlasses: Wears one.
* SmoulderingShoe: His final fate.
* TemptingFate: Near the end when Twoflower stands up to Lord Hong because someone has to, "Whatever happens to them", the villain sneers "Yes, let ''everyone'' see [[SenselessSacrifice what happens]]." Hong is then [[spoiler: blown up by the Barking Dog sent back to counterbalance Rincewind, who had been whisked away by a teleport spell.]]
* SmoulderingShoe: His final fate.
* TemptingFate: Near the end when Twoflower stands up to Lord Hong because someone has to, "Whatever happens to them", the villain sneers "Yes, let ''everyone'' see [[SenselessSacrifice what happens]]." Hong is then [[spoiler: blown up by the Barking Dog sent back to counterbalance Rincewind, who had been whisked away by a teleport spell.]]
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The BigBad of ''Discworld/InterestingTimes''. He is the Grand Vizier of the Agatean Empire.
* TheAce: Deconstructed with Lord Hong. He's excellent at everything he attempts, but only because his civilisation is so stagnant that the standards for almost every activity have declined hugely.
* AssassinOutclassin:
--> "Fetch me another tea girl. One with a head."
** Given this, it's unsurprising that he's [[spoiler:eventually killed by a means no-one could possibly have predicted or planned for--Rincewind being randomly teleported away and replaced with a Barking Dog about to fire.]]
* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Twoflower knows Lord Hong has no idea his soldiers killed his wife, and as far as he's concerned that makes it worse.
* TheChessmaster: Unfortunately for him, he and his usual opponents are so locked into this way of thinking that the Horde (who we are told think "The king and pawns rush up the board and set fire to the opposing rooks" is a good opening gambit) complete blind-sides and dominates him. He almost wins anyway, but it's due to sheer numbers after all his plans and strategies have failed.
* EvilChancellor: Is this and Rincewind and Cohen lampshade this.
-->'''Rincewind''': Grand Viziers are always --
-->'''Cohen''': -- complete and utter bastards. Give 'em a turban with a point in the middle and it just erodes their moral wossname. I cut their heads off soon as I meet 'em, saves trouble later.
* ExactWords: Lord Hong promises an informant that he will [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness never write or speak an order for his execution]]. He then folds an origami figure of the man... but doesn't have quite enough paper for a head.
* OutscareTheEnemy: He has a certain reputation.
-->[The Lord Chamberlain] risked looking up and found the point of Cohen's sword just in front of his eyes.\\
"Yeah, but right now who're you more frightened of? Me or this Lord Hong?"\\
"Uh... Lord Hong!"\\
Cohen raised an eyebrow. "Really? I'm impressed."
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The BigBad of ''Discworld/InterestingTimes''. He is the Grand Vizier of the Agatean Empire.
* TheAce: Deconstructed with Lord Hong. He's excellent at everything he attempts, but only because his civilisation is so stagnant that the standards for almost every activity have declined hugely.
* AssassinOutclassin:
--> "Fetch me another tea girl. One with a head."
** Given this, it's unsurprising that he's [[spoiler:eventually killed by a means no-one could possibly have predicted or planned for--Rincewind being randomly teleported away and replaced with a Barking Dog about to fire.]]
* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Twoflower knows Lord Hong has no idea his soldiers killed his wife, and as far as he's concerned that makes it worse.
* TheChessmaster: Unfortunately for him, he and his usual opponents are so locked into this way of thinking that the Horde (who we are told think "The king and pawns rush up the board and set fire to the opposing rooks" is a good opening gambit) complete blind-sides and dominates him. He almost wins anyway, but it's due to sheer numbers after all his plans and strategies have failed.
* EvilChancellor: Is this and Rincewind and Cohen lampshade this.
-->'''Rincewind''': Grand Viziers are always --
-->'''Cohen''': -- complete and utter bastards. Give 'em a turban with a point in the middle and it just erodes their moral wossname. I cut their heads off soon as I meet 'em, saves trouble later.
* ExactWords: Lord Hong promises an informant that he will [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness never write or speak an order for his execution]]. He then folds an origami figure of the man... but doesn't have quite enough paper for a head.
* OutscareTheEnemy: He has a certain reputation.
-->[The Lord Chamberlain] risked looking up and found the point of Cohen's sword just in front of his eyes.\\
"Yeah, but right now who're you more frightened of? Me or this Lord Hong?"\\
"Uh... Lord Hong!"\\
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* DragonInChief: Technically, he's always in a position of subservience to someone else; first to Findthee Swing as a sergeant in the Particulars, then briefly to Lord Snapcase as Captain of the Palace Guard. However, apprehending Carcer is what leads to the both of them being sent back thirty years, and necessitates Vimes taking on the role of John Keel, and Vimes ''must'' bring Carcer back with him.
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* DragonInChief: Technically, he's always in a position of subservience to someone else; first to Findthee Swing as a sergeant in the Particulars, then briefly to Lord Snapcase as Captain of the Palace Guard. However, apprehending Carcer is what leads to It's fairly clear that he follows their orders for exactly as long as it's in his own interest and while Swing and Snapcase are bad enough, the both of them being sent back thirty years, and necessitates main plot is about Vimes taking on the role of John Keel, and Vimes ''must'' bring having to drag Carcer back with him.through time.
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* ChessWithDeath: More of a wager but Death lampshades this trope when Ipslore tries negotiating with him at the beginning of ‘’Sourcery’’.
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Dual antagonists of ‘’Discworld/WyrdSisters’’. They killed King Verence of Lancre and usurped the throne.
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* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: Subverted. Granny ‘’attempted’’ to invoke this but Lady Felmet is fully aware of how evil she is and is in fact proud of it]].
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: She wouldn’t have been killed by the [[GeniusLoci angry kingdom]] if she had not escaped her imprisonement]].
* LadyMacbeth: Lady Felmet, for [[Homage obvious reasons]].
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* TheCatCameBack: Was tormented by Vetinari this way after [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:the Dragon was dealth dealt with]].
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* SmugSnake: Vastly overestimates his ability to [[spoiler: control The [[spoiler:control the Dragon]] and thinks he can do a better job of running Ankh-Morpork than Vetinari can.
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* AllCrimesAreEqual:In Lilith's Genua, thieves are beheaded on the first offence (under the logic that while cutting their hands off keeps them from stealing again, cutting their heads off keeps them from ''thinking'' of stealing again.)
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* AllCrimesAreEqual:In Lilith's Genua, thieves are beheaded on the first offence (under the logic that while cutting their hands off keeps them from stealing again, cutting their heads off keeps them from ''thinking'' of stealing again.)again).
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: A curious mix of this and ObliviouslyEvil. Thanks to her glamour powers she excels in making others believe she is a kind, just, fair and loving person -- and, as is particularly noticable in ''Discworld/TheWeeFreeMen'', this is also what she believes herself to be, even while repeatedly demonstrating that she is none of these things.
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: A curious mix of this and ObliviouslyEvil. Thanks to her glamour powers she excels in making others believe she is a kind, just, fair and loving person -- and, as is particularly noticable noticeable in ''Discworld/TheWeeFreeMen'', this is also what she believes herself to be, even while repeatedly demonstrating that she is none of these things.
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* EldritchAbomination: The Elf Queen comes pretty close. [[spoiler:From what Nanny Ogg says, the King is far closer to this. He even looks the part.]]
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* EldritchAbomination: The Elf Queen comes pretty close. [[spoiler:From what Nanny Ogg says, the King is far closer to this.closer. He even looks the part.]]
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* CreatureOfHabit: He can’t fathom doing things differently.
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* CreatureOfHabit: He can’t fathom doing things differently.differently, to the point where he stands in the exact same spot every day, next to the throne. The floor has been worn down so that an imprint of his feet are shown.
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[[folder:Carcer Dun]]
The BigBad of ''{{Discworld/Night Watch}}'', he's a SerialKiller being pursued by Vimes.
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* AxCrazy: He'd kill you for your watch rather than ask you the time.
%% * CombatPragmatist
%% * CrazyPrepared
* DragonInChief: Technically, he's always in a position of subservience to someone else; first to Findthee Swing as a sergeant in the Particulars, then briefly to Lord Snapcase as Captain of the Palace Guard. However, apprehending Carcer is what leads to the both of them being sent back thirty years, and necessitates Vimes taking on the role of John Keel, and Vimes ''must'' bring Carcer back with him.
* EvilCounterpart: It's heavily implied that if Vimes were to ever allow himself to become TheUnfettered, then he might wind up like Carcer.
** Imagine a totally ruthless, psychopathic [[LesMiserables Jean Valjean]]
* ForTheEvulz: His main motivation.
* GoodAngelBadAngel: According to Vimes, he has two bad angels.
* KnifeNut: Carcer is ''never'' unarmed.
* PsychoForHire: If you manage to get a leash on him, although it probably won't stick and you'll definitely regret it.
* PsychopathicManchild: As mentioned by Vimes:
-->''He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back.''
%% * SerialKiller
* TheUnfettered: As a contrast to Vimes being TheFettered.
[[folder:Carcer Dun]]
The BigBad of ''{{Discworld/Night Watch}}'', he's a SerialKiller being pursued by Vimes.
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* AxCrazy: He'd kill you for your watch rather than ask you the time.
%% * CombatPragmatist
%% * CrazyPrepared
* DragonInChief: Technically, he's always in a position of subservience to someone else; first to Findthee Swing as a sergeant in the Particulars, then briefly to Lord Snapcase as Captain of the Palace Guard. However, apprehending Carcer is what leads to the both of them being sent back thirty years, and necessitates Vimes taking on the role of John Keel, and Vimes ''must'' bring Carcer back with him.
* EvilCounterpart: It's heavily implied that if Vimes were to ever allow himself to become TheUnfettered, then he might wind up like Carcer.
** Imagine a totally ruthless, psychopathic [[LesMiserables Jean Valjean]]
* ForTheEvulz: His main motivation.
* GoodAngelBadAngel: According to Vimes, he has two bad angels.
* KnifeNut: Carcer is ''never'' unarmed.
* PsychoForHire: If you manage to get a leash on him, although it probably won't stick and you'll definitely regret it.
* PsychopathicManchild: As mentioned by Vimes:
-->''He'd stand there amid the carnage, blood on his hands and stolen jewellery in his pocket, and with an expression of injured innocence declare, 'Me? What did I do?' And it was believable right up until you looked hard into those cheeky, smiling eyes, and saw, deep down, the demons looking back.''
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* TheUnfettered: As a contrast to Vimes being TheFettered.
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BigBad of ''Discworld/LordsAndLadies'', she invaded Lancre when the walls between the universes weakened.
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BigBad of ''Discworld/LordsAndLadies'', ''Discworld/TheWeeFreeMen'' and the second ''Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld'' book, she invaded Lancre when the walls between the universes weakened.
weakened, and Roundworld when the wizards weren't paying attention. In her spare time she kidnaps human children.
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: A curious mix of this and ObliviouslyEvil. Thanks to her glamour powers she excels in making others believe she is a kind, just, fair and loving person -- and, as is particularly noticable in ''Discworld/TheWeeFreeMen'', this is also what she believes herself to be, even while repeatedly demonstrating that she is none of these things.
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[[folder: The Elf Queen]]
BigBad of ''Discworld/LordsAndLadies'', she invaded Lancre when the walls between the universes weakened.
* AchillesHeel: Like the other elves, she's highly vulnerable to iron due to it interfering with her ability to see magnetic force lines.
* CantArgueWithElves: She and other elves invoke this by placing a glamour to make humans feel inferior to them.
* EldritchAbomination: The Elf Queen comes pretty close. [[spoiler:From what Nanny Ogg says, the King is far closer to this. He even looks the part.]]
* TheFairFolk: One of them. "No-one ever said elves are ''nice''..."
* GlamourFailure: Literal, when Magrat defeats the Queen and sees her real self, not the image she projects - a rather small and pathetic figure of alien proportions.
* LadyInRed: This is the image she projects through glamour.
* NiceJobFixingItVillain: She [[spoiler: hits Magrat with the full force of her glamour, stripping away the witch's ego... and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass revealing the iron-hard core beneath]].]]
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Granny Weatherwax verbally ''eviscerates'' the Elf Queen. The Queen tries to fire back... and Granny just laughs in her face.
[[folder: The Elf Queen]]
BigBad of ''Discworld/LordsAndLadies'', she invaded Lancre when the walls between the universes weakened.
* AchillesHeel: Like the other elves, she's highly vulnerable to iron due to it interfering with her ability to see magnetic force lines.
* CantArgueWithElves: She and other elves invoke this by placing a glamour to make humans feel inferior to them.
* EldritchAbomination: The Elf Queen comes pretty close. [[spoiler:From what Nanny Ogg says, the King is far closer to this. He even looks the part.]]
* TheFairFolk: One of them. "No-one ever said elves are ''nice''..."
* GlamourFailure: Literal, when Magrat defeats the Queen and sees her real self, not the image she projects - a rather small and pathetic figure of alien proportions.
* LadyInRed: This is the image she projects through glamour.
* NiceJobFixingItVillain: She [[spoiler: hits Magrat with the full force of her glamour, stripping away the witch's ego... and [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass revealing the iron-hard core beneath]].]]
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Granny Weatherwax verbally ''eviscerates'' the Elf Queen. The Queen tries to fire back... and Granny just laughs in her face.
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[[folder: Vorbis]]
Villain of ''Discworld/SmallGods'', Vorbis is head of the Exquisitioners of the Omnian Church.
* AndIMustScream: [[spoiler:Vorbis' final fate - an eternity in the absolute silence of his own mind, all alone with himself - is Subverted when Brutha mercifully takes him to the afterlife.]]
* BaldOfEvil: He deliberately shaves his head.
* BlackEyesOfEvil: He has this. It's said that it has something to do with his coming from a tribe living deep in the desert.
* ChurchMilitant: Vorbis is this. Ultimately he cares more about his personal power and the power of the church than the god it was supposed to be dedicated to. Part of what makes him frightening is how ''completely unaware'' he is of this; he believes he's following the commands of his god [[spoiler:all the way to end, until he passes to the desert and ''finally'' learns that he's only been hearing himself. And now that's all the company he'll ever have...]]
* TheCorrupter: [[spoiler:Vorbis is noted at least twice to have a tendency to make those around him more like himself]].
* DeathEqualsRedemption: [[spoiler:In a manner of speaking.]].
* HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Vorbis finally gets this after death, realising that he'd never actually been following the commandments of a god--that the only voice he'd ever heard came from his ''own head'']].
* KickTheDog: Commits several.
** Turning Om (whom he believes to be only a tortoise) on his back and props him with pebbles to ensure that he cannot right itself, just to see what would happen.
** Later forces the captain of the ship he's sailing on to harpoon a porpoise, because sailors generally believe that killing a porpoise is bad luck; a foolish superstition that must be overcome in the fundamental truth of Omnian doctrine. [[spoiler:The sailors are right; Om is forced to make a bargain with the local sea goddess to spare him and Brutha. Later the ship does indeed sink as a direct result of Om's bargain (though a bit of bad luck and timing was involved), though after Om, Brutha, Vorbis and Simony have all disembarked]].
* ObfuscatingDisability: [[spoiler: Vorbis pulls a chilling example of this on Brutha as they are about to leave the desert.]]
* PetTheDog: A man comes to Vorbis [[spoiler: bringing word of the proto-tank being built, hoping that it would earn the release of his incarcerated father. Vorbis outright states that he ''knows'' that he would be in league with the rebels if not for his father... and nonetheless orders that the father be released. It appears for a moment that he is [[BaitTheDog Baiting the Dog]] by asking an inquisitor if they know where the man lives, but never follows up on it. Then again, Vorbis may simply not have gotten around to it. He was rather busy from that point until he died]].
* ThePlan: [[spoiler:Vorbis' plans, among other things, include invading Ephebe by sending the Omnian fleet to attack Ephebe directly - and getting burned by a giant Ephebian magnifying glass - partly as a justification to his main plan to cross the desert, helped by several expeditions that left caches of food and water along the way. Pratchett referred to it as "planning your counter-attack before your attack." [[XanatosGambit If the first attack works, excellent. If not, it sets up the second.]]]] Vorbis may be the most frightening villain Pratchett has ever created, because he is essentially what Vetinari would be if he were actually evil and sadistic.
[[folder: Vorbis]]
Villain of ''Discworld/SmallGods'', Vorbis is head of the Exquisitioners of the Omnian Church.
* AndIMustScream: [[spoiler:Vorbis' final fate - an eternity in the absolute silence of his own mind, all alone with himself - is Subverted when Brutha mercifully takes him to the afterlife.]]
* BaldOfEvil: He deliberately shaves his head.
* BlackEyesOfEvil: He has this. It's said that it has something to do with his coming from a tribe living deep in the desert.
* ChurchMilitant: Vorbis is this. Ultimately he cares more about his personal power and the power of the church than the god it was supposed to be dedicated to. Part of what makes him frightening is how ''completely unaware'' he is of this; he believes he's following the commands of his god [[spoiler:all the way to end, until he passes to the desert and ''finally'' learns that he's only been hearing himself. And now that's all the company he'll ever have...]]
* TheCorrupter: [[spoiler:Vorbis is noted at least twice to have a tendency to make those around him more like himself]].
* DeathEqualsRedemption: [[spoiler:In a manner of speaking.]].
* HeelRealization: [[spoiler:Vorbis finally gets this after death, realising that he'd never actually been following the commandments of a god--that the only voice he'd ever heard came from his ''own head'']].
* KickTheDog: Commits several.
** Turning Om (whom he believes to be only a tortoise) on his back and props him with pebbles to ensure that he cannot right itself, just to see what would happen.
** Later forces the captain of the ship he's sailing on to harpoon a porpoise, because sailors generally believe that killing a porpoise is bad luck; a foolish superstition that must be overcome in the fundamental truth of Omnian doctrine. [[spoiler:The sailors are right; Om is forced to make a bargain with the local sea goddess to spare him and Brutha. Later the ship does indeed sink as a direct result of Om's bargain (though a bit of bad luck and timing was involved), though after Om, Brutha, Vorbis and Simony have all disembarked]].
* ObfuscatingDisability: [[spoiler: Vorbis pulls a chilling example of this on Brutha as they are about to leave the desert.]]
* PetTheDog: A man comes to Vorbis [[spoiler: bringing word of the proto-tank being built, hoping that it would earn the release of his incarcerated father. Vorbis outright states that he ''knows'' that he would be in league with the rebels if not for his father... and nonetheless orders that the father be released. It appears for a moment that he is [[BaitTheDog Baiting the Dog]] by asking an inquisitor if they know where the man lives, but never follows up on it. Then again, Vorbis may simply not have gotten around to it. He was rather busy from that point until he died]].
* ThePlan: [[spoiler:Vorbis' plans, among other things, include invading Ephebe by sending the Omnian fleet to attack Ephebe directly - and getting burned by a giant Ephebian magnifying glass - partly as a justification to his main plan to cross the desert, helped by several expeditions that left caches of food and water along the way. Pratchett referred to it as "planning your counter-attack before your attack." [[XanatosGambit If the first attack works, excellent. If not, it sets up the second.]]]] Vorbis may be the most frightening villain Pratchett has ever created, because he is essentially what Vetinari would be if he were actually evil and sadistic.
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* TautologicalTemplar: Due to her mistaken belief that she's the good one, she thinks everything she does is good for everyone.
* TheoryOfNarrativeCausality: Lilith tries to order people's lives according to fairy-tale logic, twisting events so that they unfold according to the time-honoured patterns of stories. She thinks she's making the world a better place and giving people their happy ending, but really everyone would have been happier if she'd left them alone.
* ThisIsMyNameOnForeign: "Tempscire," Lilith's new last name, is "Weatherwax" in French.
* TrampledUnderfoot: Deliberately invoked on some coachmen by Lily, who turns them into beetles and stomps on them for failing her. [[spoiler: Also the fate of the Duc, when he reverts to frog form and fatally encounters Baron Saturday's descending foot.]]
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Lilith feels fully justified in using totalitarian methods to create a fairy tale kingdom.
* WrongGenreSavvy: Lilith ''thinks'' she's the kind fairy godmother who's giving everyone a happy ending, to the point where she invokes happy fairytale endings at sword-point. You'll live happily ever after ''or else''.
* TheoryOfNarrativeCausality: Lilith tries to order people's lives according to fairy-tale logic, twisting events so that they unfold according to the time-honoured patterns of stories. She thinks she's making the world a better place and giving people their happy ending, but really everyone would have been happier if she'd left them alone.
* ThisIsMyNameOnForeign: "Tempscire," Lilith's new last name, is "Weatherwax" in French.
* TrampledUnderfoot: Deliberately invoked on some coachmen by Lily, who turns them into beetles and stomps on them for failing her. [[spoiler: Also the fate of the Duc, when he reverts to frog form and fatally encounters Baron Saturday's descending foot.]]
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Lilith feels fully justified in using totalitarian methods to create a fairy tale kingdom.
* WrongGenreSavvy: Lilith ''thinks'' she's the kind fairy godmother who's giving everyone a happy ending, to the point where she invokes happy fairytale endings at sword-point. You'll live happily ever after ''or else''.
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[[folder: Lilith Weatherwax]]
A fairy-godmother and villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. She's Esme's older sister.
* AllCrimesAreEqual:In Lilith's Genua, thieves are beheaded on the first offence (under the logic that while cutting their hands off keeps them from stealing again, cutting their heads off keeps them from ''thinking'' of stealing again.)
* BalefulPolymorph: [[spoiler: Lily turning the footmen, who we spent a while getting to know and sympathize with, into beetles. And stepping on them.]]
* TheBigBadWolf: She warps reality so it'd be like fairy tales. One tragic example involves making a wolf think more like a human so it will be a better villain (talking, opening doors, showing human-like cunning and so on). The wolf suffers horribly, stuck between species, and begs for a MercyKill.
* BreakThemByTalking[=/=]WorldOfCardboardSpeech: [[spoiler: Granny gives both to Lilith at the same time (pointing out why Lilith isn't suited to being evil and why Granny could do so much better, but doesn't).]]
* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Lily is ''very'' familiar with the way stories work, and she's not afraid to abuse that knowledge.
* DevourTheDragon: Lily eventually feels that she needs her magic for more important things than [[spoiler: keeping the Duc human]].
* EsotericHappyEnding: In-Universe. Many of Lily's 'stories' end this way, at least the ones that ''have'' [[DownerEnding happy endings]].[[invoked]]
* EvilCounterpart: Is this to Granny Weatherwax.
* EvilIsHammy: [[spoiler:Subverted, to Granny's immense rage. Lily spent her whole life convinced that she was the good sister who was putting the needs of others over her own, and, so convinced of her own martyrdom, thus made herself a very understated and sinister foe. To Granny, who knew for a fact who was the good sister and who was the bad, this is almost a greater sin than any of Lily's actual wrongdoing, because Granny would have at least enjoyed it, making whole [[ChewingTheScenery banquets of her surroundings]] and being bad enough to even top the legendary Black Aliss, who (when in Lily's role) could keep multiple stories going at once in the same place.]]
* FairyGodmother: An evil one who cares less for the well-being of others and more for making things like stories.
* FantasyKitchenSink: The Discworld itself is already one, but under Lilith, Genua became a Fairytale Kitchen Sink.
* FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: Granny Weatherwax wanted to be the irresponsible evil one, but because her elder sister, Lilly, beat her to the punch on that she felt forced to be the responsible good one. When both sisters are witches, you can see how this complicates family relationships.
* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: Taken to its most extreme between Lilith and Esmeralda.
* TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin: {{Invoked}}. Lily is confident of her victory because she knows good always triumphs over wickedness; unfortunately for her, [[WrongGenreSavvy she's wrong about which part she plays]].
* GoodWitchVersusBadWitch: [[GoodIsNotNice Granny]] vs. [[LightIsNotGood Lilith]]. The personalities are a bit unusual for the roles they take in this battle, and Lily thinks ''she'' [[WrongGenreSavvy is the good one]].
* HappinessIsMandatory: Lillith turns Genua into a sparkling clean city full of blankly smiling citizens by dint of torture and execution.
* HappyEnding: Heavily subverted, with Lily murdering and ruining people's lives to get to what the stories demand. Then played straight, releasing the city from her grip lets everyone relax and ''party.''
* HumanityEnsues: Turns some animals human, though the only one who really benefits is The Duc.
* LightIsNotGood: Lily dresses all in white and thinks of herself as a creator of happy endings.
* MagicMirror: It's specified that using ''one'' mirror for magic is fine, but Lily stands between ''two'' of them...
* PalantirPloy: Lilith can use her magic mirrors to scry through any reflective surface in the world. Subverted, as her inability to find what she wants to look at through any method other than manually scrolling through all available reflective surfaces makes it a bit AwesomeButImpractical.
[[folder: Lilith Weatherwax]]
A fairy-godmother and villain of ''Discworld/WitchesAbroad''. She's Esme's older sister.
* AllCrimesAreEqual:In Lilith's Genua, thieves are beheaded on the first offence (under the logic that while cutting their hands off keeps them from stealing again, cutting their heads off keeps them from ''thinking'' of stealing again.)
* BalefulPolymorph: [[spoiler: Lily turning the footmen, who we spent a while getting to know and sympathize with, into beetles. And stepping on them.]]
* TheBigBadWolf: She warps reality so it'd be like fairy tales. One tragic example involves making a wolf think more like a human so it will be a better villain (talking, opening doors, showing human-like cunning and so on). The wolf suffers horribly, stuck between species, and begs for a MercyKill.
* BreakThemByTalking[=/=]WorldOfCardboardSpeech: [[spoiler: Granny gives both to Lilith at the same time (pointing out why Lilith isn't suited to being evil and why Granny could do so much better, but doesn't).]]
* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Lily is ''very'' familiar with the way stories work, and she's not afraid to abuse that knowledge.
* DevourTheDragon: Lily eventually feels that she needs her magic for more important things than [[spoiler: keeping the Duc human]].
* EsotericHappyEnding: In-Universe. Many of Lily's 'stories' end this way, at least the ones that ''have'' [[DownerEnding happy endings]].[[invoked]]
* EvilCounterpart: Is this to Granny Weatherwax.
* EvilIsHammy: [[spoiler:Subverted, to Granny's immense rage. Lily spent her whole life convinced that she was the good sister who was putting the needs of others over her own, and, so convinced of her own martyrdom, thus made herself a very understated and sinister foe. To Granny, who knew for a fact who was the good sister and who was the bad, this is almost a greater sin than any of Lily's actual wrongdoing, because Granny would have at least enjoyed it, making whole [[ChewingTheScenery banquets of her surroundings]] and being bad enough to even top the legendary Black Aliss, who (when in Lily's role) could keep multiple stories going at once in the same place.]]
* FairyGodmother: An evil one who cares less for the well-being of others and more for making things like stories.
* FantasyKitchenSink: The Discworld itself is already one, but under Lilith, Genua became a Fairytale Kitchen Sink.
* FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: Granny Weatherwax wanted to be the irresponsible evil one, but because her elder sister, Lilly, beat her to the punch on that she felt forced to be the responsible good one. When both sisters are witches, you can see how this complicates family relationships.
* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: Taken to its most extreme between Lilith and Esmeralda.
* TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin: {{Invoked}}. Lily is confident of her victory because she knows good always triumphs over wickedness; unfortunately for her, [[WrongGenreSavvy she's wrong about which part she plays]].
* GoodWitchVersusBadWitch: [[GoodIsNotNice Granny]] vs. [[LightIsNotGood Lilith]]. The personalities are a bit unusual for the roles they take in this battle, and Lily thinks ''she'' [[WrongGenreSavvy is the good one]].
* HappinessIsMandatory: Lillith turns Genua into a sparkling clean city full of blankly smiling citizens by dint of torture and execution.
* HappyEnding: Heavily subverted, with Lily murdering and ruining people's lives to get to what the stories demand. Then played straight, releasing the city from her grip lets everyone relax and ''party.''
* HumanityEnsues: Turns some animals human, though the only one who really benefits is The Duc.
* LightIsNotGood: Lily dresses all in white and thinks of herself as a creator of happy endings.
* MagicMirror: It's specified that using ''one'' mirror for magic is fine, but Lily stands between ''two'' of them...
* PalantirPloy: Lilith can use her magic mirrors to scry through any reflective surface in the world. Subverted, as her inability to find what she wants to look at through any method other than manually scrolling through all available reflective surfaces makes it a bit AwesomeButImpractical.
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[[folder:Ymper Trymon]]
Villain of ‘’Discworld/TheLightFantastic’’ and the first proper Literature/{{Discworld}} BigBad. He is one of the wizards of Unseen University.
* DemonicPossession: [[spoiler: Is possessed by the Things during the course of the book he appears in]].
* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu: [[spoiler: Rincewind defeats the possessed Trymon]].
* EvilChancellor: Trymon to Galder Weatherwax.
* MadMathematician: Trymon believes language should be replaced with an easily understood numerical system.
* OneWingedAngel: [[spoiler: Subverted. Despite being possessed by the Things, he still has a frail wizard body]].
* SquishyWizard: Why the [[spoiler: possessed]] Trymon could still be defeated by Rincewind. Rincewind is more physically fit than the average wizard.
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[[folder:Ipslore the Red]]
Villain of ‘’Discworld/{{Sourcery}}’’. A former wizard from Unseen University who decided to use his Sourceror son to destroy the university.
* AbusiveParents: He forces his son Coin to commit evil deeds and uses magical ElectricTorture when Coin tries to disobey. It’s implied he treated his first seven sons no better.
* ChessWithDeath: More of a wager but Death lampshades this trope when Ipslore tries negotiating with him at the beginning of ‘’Sourcery’’.
* ColorCodedWizardry: Ipslore the Red is a straight example.
* EmpathicWeapon: Becomes one when he dies and his soul ended up in his wizard staff.
* EvilSorceror: Evil? Check. Magic user? Check.
* RhetoricalQuestionBlunder:
-->’’’Ipslore’’’: And what would humans be without love?
-->’’’Death’’’: ‘’’Rare’’’.
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[[folder:Leonal Felmet and Lady Felmet]]
Dual antagonists of ‘’Discworld/WyrdSisters’’. They killed King Verence of Lancre and usurped the throne.
* AxCrazy: Leonal. “The duke’s mind ticked like a clock, and, like a clock, it regularly went cuckoo.”
* TheCoronerDothProtestsTooMuch: They claim that Verence died of natural causes eventhough they assassinated him but the people of Lancre really do consider assassination to be natural for a king so they for the most part don’t care.
* DeadpanSnarker: Duke Felmet tries, occasionally, to be this, but finds it hard to do when his subjects are largely made up of people who [[DoesNotUnderstandSarcasm Do Not Understand Sarcasm.]]
-->"I'm not sure I made your orders clear, sergeant," said the duke, in snake tones.\\
"Sir?"\\
"I mean, it is possible I may have confused you. I meant to say 'Bring me a witch, in chains if necessary,' but perhaps what I ''really'' said was 'Go and have a cup of tea.' Was this in fact the case?"\\
The sergeant wrinkled his forehead. Sarcasm had not hitherto entered his life. His experience of people being annoyed with him generally involved shouting and occasional bits of wood.\\
"No, sir," he said.
* DiedHappilyEverAfter [[spoiler: Duke Leonal is quite happy being a ghost]].
* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: Subverted. Granny ‘’attempted’’ to invoke this but Lady Felmet is fully aware of how evil she is and is in fact proud of it]].
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: She wouldn’t have been killed by the [[GeniusLoci angry kingdom]] if she had not escaped her imprisonement]].
* LadyMacbeth: Lady Felmet, for [[Homage obvious reasons]].
* LastVillainStand: [[spoiler: Lady Felmet charges at the animals of the kingdom straight on despite her low chances of survival]].
* NiceJobFixingItVillain: They could have ruled for a long while had they not made the Lancre witches their enemy.
* TheseHandsHaveKilled: Leonal starts mutilating himself since he can’t get the imaginary blood off his hands.
* VillainousValor: See LastVillainStand above.
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[[folder:Dios]]
BigBad of ‘’Discworld/{{Pyramids}}’’. Dios is a High Priest among High Priests in Djeylibeybi.
* CreatureOfHabit: He can’t fathom doing things differently.
* DeathGlare: Gives such a potent one when looking for Ptraci that Teppic is surprised the walls didn’t melt.
* DramaticSitDown: Is so shocked when Teppic refuses to follow the rituals he sits down on a chair that happened to have a model ship on it. And again when [[spoiler: the entire pantheon appearing in Djeylibeybi]].
* EvilChancellor: More an evil priest but the trope is referenced in describing Dios.
* StableTimeLoop: [[spoiler: Turns out to be stuck in one. When the energy in the pyramids are unleashed, Dios is sent back to the past when Djeylibeybi is founded with no memory and does all the same things that led to the present]].
* TimeAbyss: [[spoiler: As a result of the StableTimeLoop, who knows how old Dios is really]].
[[/folder]]
[[folder: [[spoiler: Lupine Wonse]]]]
The leader of The Elucidated Brethren of the Ebon Night and antagonist of ‘’Discworld/GuardsGuards’’. His society planned to use a dragon for their attempt to take over Ankh-Morpork.
* EvilIsNotAToy: [[spoiler: The Dragon eventually turns on Wonse and seizes control of events to become the BigBad of the book]].
* TheCatCameBack: Was tormented by Vetinari this way after [[spoiler: The Dragon was dealth with]].
* DisneyVillainDeath: [[spoiler: Carrot throws a book at him after interpreting Vimes’ order literally and he falls to his death]].
* PetTheDog: Does one nice thing in the book, which is chip in money for an injured co-conspirator to get better.
* RightfulKingReturns: He and his secret society attempted to invoke this and discussed the trope in general.
* SmugSnake: Vastly overestimates his ability to [[spoiler: control The Dragon]] and thinks he can do a better job of running Ankh-Morpork than Vetinari can.
* SummonBiggerFish: Was going to summon a second dragon [[spoiler: after the first one turned on him]] but Vimes stopped him.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Ymper Trymon]]
Villain of ‘’Discworld/TheLightFantastic’’ and the first proper Literature/{{Discworld}} BigBad. He is one of the wizards of Unseen University.
* DemonicPossession: [[spoiler: Is possessed by the Things during the course of the book he appears in]].
* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu: [[spoiler: Rincewind defeats the possessed Trymon]].
* EvilChancellor: Trymon to Galder Weatherwax.
* MadMathematician: Trymon believes language should be replaced with an easily understood numerical system.
* OneWingedAngel: [[spoiler: Subverted. Despite being possessed by the Things, he still has a frail wizard body]].
* SquishyWizard: Why the [[spoiler: possessed]] Trymon could still be defeated by Rincewind. Rincewind is more physically fit than the average wizard.
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[[folder:Ipslore the Red]]
Villain of ‘’Discworld/{{Sourcery}}’’. A former wizard from Unseen University who decided to use his Sourceror son to destroy the university.
* AbusiveParents: He forces his son Coin to commit evil deeds and uses magical ElectricTorture when Coin tries to disobey. It’s implied he treated his first seven sons no better.
* ChessWithDeath: More of a wager but Death lampshades this trope when Ipslore tries negotiating with him at the beginning of ‘’Sourcery’’.
* ColorCodedWizardry: Ipslore the Red is a straight example.
* EmpathicWeapon: Becomes one when he dies and his soul ended up in his wizard staff.
* EvilSorceror: Evil? Check. Magic user? Check.
* RhetoricalQuestionBlunder:
-->’’’Ipslore’’’: And what would humans be without love?
-->’’’Death’’’: ‘’’Rare’’’.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Leonal Felmet and Lady Felmet]]
Dual antagonists of ‘’Discworld/WyrdSisters’’. They killed King Verence of Lancre and usurped the throne.
* AxCrazy: Leonal. “The duke’s mind ticked like a clock, and, like a clock, it regularly went cuckoo.”
* TheCoronerDothProtestsTooMuch: They claim that Verence died of natural causes eventhough they assassinated him but the people of Lancre really do consider assassination to be natural for a king so they for the most part don’t care.
* DeadpanSnarker: Duke Felmet tries, occasionally, to be this, but finds it hard to do when his subjects are largely made up of people who [[DoesNotUnderstandSarcasm Do Not Understand Sarcasm.]]
-->"I'm not sure I made your orders clear, sergeant," said the duke, in snake tones.\\
"Sir?"\\
"I mean, it is possible I may have confused you. I meant to say 'Bring me a witch, in chains if necessary,' but perhaps what I ''really'' said was 'Go and have a cup of tea.' Was this in fact the case?"\\
The sergeant wrinkled his forehead. Sarcasm had not hitherto entered his life. His experience of people being annoyed with him generally involved shouting and occasional bits of wood.\\
"No, sir," he said.
* DiedHappilyEverAfter [[spoiler: Duke Leonal is quite happy being a ghost]].
* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: Subverted. Granny ‘’attempted’’ to invoke this but Lady Felmet is fully aware of how evil she is and is in fact proud of it]].
* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: She wouldn’t have been killed by the [[GeniusLoci angry kingdom]] if she had not escaped her imprisonement]].
* LadyMacbeth: Lady Felmet, for [[Homage obvious reasons]].
* LastVillainStand: [[spoiler: Lady Felmet charges at the animals of the kingdom straight on despite her low chances of survival]].
* NiceJobFixingItVillain: They could have ruled for a long while had they not made the Lancre witches their enemy.
* TheseHandsHaveKilled: Leonal starts mutilating himself since he can’t get the imaginary blood off his hands.
* VillainousValor: See LastVillainStand above.
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Dios]]
BigBad of ‘’Discworld/{{Pyramids}}’’. Dios is a High Priest among High Priests in Djeylibeybi.
* CreatureOfHabit: He can’t fathom doing things differently.
* DeathGlare: Gives such a potent one when looking for Ptraci that Teppic is surprised the walls didn’t melt.
* DramaticSitDown: Is so shocked when Teppic refuses to follow the rituals he sits down on a chair that happened to have a model ship on it. And again when [[spoiler: the entire pantheon appearing in Djeylibeybi]].
* EvilChancellor: More an evil priest but the trope is referenced in describing Dios.
* StableTimeLoop: [[spoiler: Turns out to be stuck in one. When the energy in the pyramids are unleashed, Dios is sent back to the past when Djeylibeybi is founded with no memory and does all the same things that led to the present]].
* TimeAbyss: [[spoiler: As a result of the StableTimeLoop, who knows how old Dios is really]].
[[/folder]]
[[folder: [[spoiler: Lupine Wonse]]]]
The leader of The Elucidated Brethren of the Ebon Night and antagonist of ‘’Discworld/GuardsGuards’’. His society planned to use a dragon for their attempt to take over Ankh-Morpork.
* EvilIsNotAToy: [[spoiler: The Dragon eventually turns on Wonse and seizes control of events to become the BigBad of the book]].
* TheCatCameBack: Was tormented by Vetinari this way after [[spoiler: The Dragon was dealth with]].
* DisneyVillainDeath: [[spoiler: Carrot throws a book at him after interpreting Vimes’ order literally and he falls to his death]].
* PetTheDog: Does one nice thing in the book, which is chip in money for an injured co-conspirator to get better.
* RightfulKingReturns: He and his secret society attempted to invoke this and discussed the trope in general.
* SmugSnake: Vastly overestimates his ability to [[spoiler: control The Dragon]] and thinks he can do a better job of running Ankh-Morpork than Vetinari can.
* SummonBiggerFish: Was going to summon a second dragon [[spoiler: after the first one turned on him]] but Vimes stopped him.
[[/folder]]
