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* DarkIsNotEvil: Humans are inherently with Darkness in their souls, [[HumansAreCthulhu and their true forms is the form of the Undead, the same form the Pygmies had]]. However, Darkness is explicitly noted to be the essence of ''Humanity'' in this universe, meaning that just as hate or ambition comes from it, love, compassion and determination comes from it as well.]]

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* DarkIsNotEvil: Humans are inherently with Darkness in their souls, [[HumansAreCthulhu and their true forms is the form of the Undead, the same form the Pygmies had]]. However, Darkness is explicitly noted to be the essence of ''Humanity'' in this universe, meaning that just as hate or ambition comes from it, love, compassion and determination comes from it as well.]]

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* BigBad: [[AvertedTrope Averted]]; Gwyn certainly saw it as a threat to the world, and how it's described and represented seems frightening and might lead some to think the Dark Soul is responsible for the conflict of the trilogy - but ultimately, the Dark Soul was never malevolent, and the conflict of the game is mostly the fault of inevitable entropy, the Dark Soul's ''reaction'' to said entropy, and Gwyn's paranoia.
* TheCorruption: It wasn't originally one, being a calm power that wasn't inherently good or evil; however, millenias of stagnating within the Darksign in itself corrupted the dark, causing the rise of the Abyss and undead and, in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'', the Deep, which is like the Abyss but ''even worse''. It's not known if it can ever be restored to what it once was.
* DarkIsNotEvil: At least, not originally: the Dark represented coldness and lack of light, but also gentleness, the ancestors of men could once use it without risk.

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* BigBad: [[AvertedTrope Averted]]; Gwyn certainly saw it as a threat to the world, and how it's described and represented seems frightening and might lead some to think the Dark Soul is responsible for trilogy's various conflicts are ultimately all reactions to it gaining dominance over the conflict of the trilogy world one day - but ultimately, the Dark Soul was never malevolent, Soul's malevolence is in the eye of the beholder, and the conflict of the game is mostly the fault of inevitable entropy, the Dark Soul's ''reaction'' to said entropy, and Gwyn's paranoia.
* TheCorruption: It wasn't originally one, being a calm power that wasn't inherently good or evil; however, millenias of stagnating within In the modern day, the Darksign in itself corrupted the dark, causing caused the rise of the Abyss and undead curse. The Dark Soul is also associated with the Abyss and, in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'', the Deep, which is like seems to be another interpretation of the Abyss but ''even worse''. It's Abyss. While the former was definitely Gwyn's fault, it's not known clear if it can ever be restored to what it once was.
the latter was always an intrinsic property of the Dark Soul or just reflected its stagnation within the Seal of Fire that became the Darksign.
* DarkIsNotEvil: At least, not originally: Potentially: the Dark represented coldness and lack of light, but also gentleness, the gentleness. The ancestors of men could once use it without risk.risk of madness, but even then it seems to have warped them into something ''very'' different from their original selves.



* GreaterScopeParagon: A Chosen Undead going for the Dark Lord ending or an Unkindled One becoming the Lord of Hollows is ultimately championing the Dark Soul, and with it humanity itself.



* ItCanThink: Unlike the First Flame, the Dark Soul seems to have a will of its own, or at least feels emotions in much the same way a human would - Humanities, the fragments of the Dark Soul, and are described as feeling love, or perhaps hatred.

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* ItCanThink: ItCanThink: ...Maybe. Unlike the First Flame, the Dark Soul seems to have a will of its own, or at least feels some connections to emotions in much the same way a human humans would recognize - Humanities, the fragments of the Dark Soul, and are described as feeling love, or perhaps hatred.hatred. But this may be a function of most such fragments having previously been a part of human beings.

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* DeadlyEuphemism: 'Linking the Fire' is euphemism for throwing yourself into the First Flame so that it can consume your souls and extent its life, a process which either kills you if you're weak enough, or turns you completely insane if you're strong (like Gwyn).

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* DeadlyEuphemism: 'Linking the Fire' is euphemism for throwing yourself into the First Flame so that it can consume your souls and extent extend its life, a process which either kills you if you're weak enough, or turns you may not actually kill outright, but is agonizing enough to eventually drive even the strongest-willed completely insane if you're strong (like Gwyn).insane.



* LivingOnBorrowedTime: Gwyn's method of Linking the Flame does work in extending its life - but it's only delaying the inevitable, the First Flame is doomed to die and its unnatural lifetime is causing more harm than good.

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* LivingOnBorrowedTime: Gwyn's method of Linking the Flame does work in extending to extend its life - but it's only delaying the inevitable, the First Flame is doomed to die and its unnatural lifetime is may be causing more harm to the world than good.



* TheAntiGod: Of sort with the First Flame, being its exact opposite.

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* TheAntiGod: Of sort with the First Flame, being its exact opposite.born from the First Flame but fated to eventually replace it.



* DarkIsNotEvil: At least, not originally: the Dark represented coldness and lack of light, but also gentleness, the ancestors of men could once use it without risk - before the Darksign arrived. It only became DarkIsEvil after the Seale of Fire was created.

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* DarkIsNotEvil: At least, not originally: the Dark represented coldness and lack of light, but also gentleness, the ancestors of men could once use it without risk - before the Darksign arrived. It only became DarkIsEvil after the Seale of Fire was created.risk.



* ItCanThink: Unlike the First Flame, the Dark Soul seems to have a will of its own, or at least feels emotions in much the same way a human would - Humanities, the fragments of the Dark Soul, and are described as feeling love, or perhaps hatred.



* ImAHumanitarian: The Dark Soul has become strongly associated with the consumption of other human beings and their essence; whether this is an intrinsic property of the Dark Soul or a side effect of being linked to the Flame, a force that by its very nature consumes, is ambiguous. But those overwhelmed by the Dark usually demonstrate it by consuming other sapient beings with signs of Humanity. [[spoiler: It's probably not a coincidence that Gael makes the Dark Soul whole again within himself through an horrific act of cannibalism]].
* ItCanThink: Unlike the First Flame, the Dark Soul seems to have a will of its own, or at least feels emotions in much the same way a human would - Humanities, the fragments of the Dark Soul, and are described as feeling love, or perhaps hatred.



* DarkIsNotEvil: Humans are inherently with Darkness in their souls, [[HumansAreCthulhu and their true forms is the form of the Undead, the same form the Pygmies had]]. However, Darkness is explicitly noted to be the essence of ''Humanity'' in this universe, meaning that just as hate or ambition comes from it, love, compassion and determination comes from it as well. This is taken a new meaning when ''Dark Souls 3'' reveals that [[spoiler:the Dark was never inherently bad, but Gwyn's fear of it and suppression of humanity's Darkness [[SelfFulfillingProphecy ended up being the reason why it became the threat it is to the present]].]]

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* DarkIsNotEvil: Humans are inherently with Darkness in their souls, [[HumansAreCthulhu and their true forms is the form of the Undead, the same form the Pygmies had]]. However, Darkness is explicitly noted to be the essence of ''Humanity'' in this universe, meaning that just as hate or ambition comes from it, love, compassion and determination comes from it as well. This is taken a new meaning when ''Dark Souls 3'' reveals that [[spoiler:the Dark was never inherently bad, but Gwyn's fear of it and suppression of humanity's Darkness [[SelfFulfillingProphecy ended up being the reason why it became the threat it is to the present]].]]



* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Most hail from kingdoms akin to Medieval Europe, but there are other, unseen Human kingdoms that are more akin to arabic or asian cultures.

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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: Most hail from kingdoms akin to Medieval Europe, but there are other, unseen Human kingdoms that are more akin to arabic Arabic or asian Asian cultures.



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After the manifestation of the First Flame, a race of towering humanoids was born. They came from the Dark, much like Humans, and four powerful individuals were changed, for they found the Souls of Lords near the flame. Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight, the Witch of Izalith, The Furtive Pygmy, and Nito, the First of the Dead: these four beings thus became the first and most powerful out of the other beings that lived in the world, known from that time as the Lords.

Gwyn led the Gods in a war against the Dragons. With their powerful magic and the aid of the Dragon traitor, Seath the Scaleless, the Gods slew most of the Dragons and claimed the world for their own. Gwyn and his family founded the mighty city of Anor Londo, from whence they ruled over a new race, the Humans who had been created by the Pygmy for his own reasons.

The Gods derived their power from the First Flame, but in time the Flame began to die out. To preserve their rule over the world, Gwyn sacrificed himself by entering the Kiln of the First Flame, where his strength would keep the Flame alive. Ever since, the Gods themselves have been a very distant memory, eventually coming to have much of their power dwindle with the artificial extension of the Age of Fire, and eventually their unavoidable decline as the world's rulers.

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Also called the Gods. After the manifestation of the First Flame, a race of towering humanoids was born. They came from the Dark, much like Humans, and four powerful individuals were changed, for they found the Souls of Lords near the flame. Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight, the Witch of Izalith, The Furtive Pygmy, and Nito, the First of the Dead: these four beings thus became the first and most powerful out of the other beings that lived in the world, known from that time as the Lords.

Gwyn led the Gods Lords in a war against the Dragons. With their powerful magic and the aid of the Dragon traitor, Seath the Scaleless, the Gods slew most of the Dragons and claimed the world for their own. Gwyn and his family founded the mighty city of Anor Londo, from whence they ruled over a new race, the Humans who had been created by the Pygmy for his own reasons.

The Gods Lords derived their power from the First Flame, but in time the Flame began to die out. To preserve their rule over prevent the world, end of the Age of Fire, Gwyn sacrificed himself by entering the Kiln of the First Flame, where the fuel of his strength would keep the Flame alive. Ever since, the Gods themselves have been a very distant memory, eventually coming to have much of their power dwindle with the artificial extension of the Age of Fire, and eventually their unavoidable decline as the world's rulers.



* AmbiguousSituation: Are the Gods mentioned in lore and item descriptions of the same tribe as Gwyn's family? Or are they some kind of other species? Do they exist at all? Most of them exhibit the standard mythological trait of being the god of something specific and having followers but in a fantasy setting such as ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' it's unclear how many of these were real and how many were just tall tales or misrememebred history. The last question is if the myriad gods of the many lands outside Lordran did exist did they live in Anor Londo, which is widely considered the home of the Gods?

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* AmbiguousSituation: Are the Gods mentioned in lore and item descriptions of the same tribe as Gwyn's family? Or are they some kind of other species? Do they exist at all? Most of them exhibit the standard mythological trait of being the god of something specific and having followers but in a fantasy setting such as ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' it's unclear how many of these were real and how many were just tall tales or misrememebred misremembered history. The last question is if the myriad gods of the many lands outside Lordran did exist did they live in Anor Londo, which is widely considered the home of the Gods?



* BigScrewedUpFamily: If much of the affairs between Gods and other races were any indication as well as Gwyn's treatment of Gwyndolin, the Gods were roughly as screwed-up as your average ruling Medieval family.
* FantasyCounterpartMyth: They are very comparable to the Aesir of Norse Mythology; both are races of immortal but [[GodIsFlawed uniquely-human]] gods who foresaw of their end of power at the end of the world, and in attempting to help prevent it, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy they end up causing their demises and destruction]].

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* BigScrewedUpFamily: If much of the affairs between Gods and other races were any indication as well as Gwyn's treatment of Gwyndolin, the Gods were roughly as screwed-up as your average ruling Medieval family.
family and/or mythological pantheon.
* FantasyCounterpartMyth: They are very comparable to the Aesir of Norse Mythology; both are races of immortal but [[GodIsFlawed uniquely-human]] gods who foresaw of their end of power at own destruction and the end death of the world, world. Unlike the original Aesir, but like many modern interpretations, rather than accept their fates and in attempting prepare for that final death with dignity, the Lords tried to help prevent it, this final end [[SelfFulfillingProphecy they end up causing their demises and destruction]].in the process made things much worse]].



** [[TopGod Gwyn]], [[GodOfLight Lord of Sunlight]]. Progenitor of gods as a race and bearer of their Lord Soul. Also, the reason humans can't have nice things.

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** [[TopGod Gwyn]], [[GodOfLight Lord of Sunlight]]. Progenitor of gods as a race and bearer of their Lord Soul. Also, Master of the reason humans can't have nice things.various Black and Silver Knights that will ruin your shit throughout the series.



** The Nameless King. Gwyn's oldest child and a WarGod of some sort. Founded the Warriors of Sunlight before deciding to side with the dragons and getting [[{{Unperson}} erased from history]].

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** The Nameless King. Gwyn's oldest child and a WarGod of some sort. Founded the Warriors of Sunlight and battled against the Dragons alongside several Dragonslayers [[spoiler: before deciding to side with the dragons Dragons for reasons [[TheUnreveal never fully made clear]]]] and getting [[{{Unperson}} erased from history]].



** [[spoiler: Priscilla's exact nature is very ambiguous, but evidence strongly suggests that she is half-god, half-dragon, and that she is directly related to Gwyndolin and therefore to Gwyn.]]



* OurGodsAreDifferent: They are immortal, giant humanoids of incredible strength and sorcerous power, towering over most life of the Earth and the definitive rulers of the world. In truth, they are of the same kind of pygmies that spawned humans and demons, what makes them different is that they share Gwyn's Light Soul that he plucked from the First Flame. Some members of Gwyn's species appear to be true gods who are worshipped as part of a pantheon and wield unique magic, while others like Ornstein, Smough, and the Silver Knights don't have this distinction. They are TheAgeless but just because they're immortal does not mean they're invincible; not unlike the Norse gods, they can die if you throw enough damage at them; indeed, by the time of ''The Ringed City'' only Filianore remains.

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* OurGodsAreDifferent: They are immortal, giant humanoids of incredible strength and sorcerous power, towering over most life of the Earth and the definitive rulers of the world. In truth, they are of the same kind of as pygmies that spawned humans and demons, what makes them different is that they share Gwyn's Light Soul that he plucked from the First Flame. Some members of Gwyn's species appear to be true gods who are worshipped as part of a pantheon and wield unique magic, while others like Ornstein, Smough, and the Silver Knights don't have this distinction. They are TheAgeless but just because they're immortal does not mean they're invincible; not unlike the Norse gods, they can die if you throw enough damage at them; indeed, them. Indeed, by the time of ''The Ringed City'' only Filianore remains.



* GodIsFlawed: The gods generally ran the gamut of moral standings and weren't omniscient or omnipotent; indeed, Gwyn caused most of the problems in the entire series with his fear of the Dark. Aside from Gwyn, we don't get to see much of the others, but while some such as Gwyndolin and Yorshka are generally benevolent, abandoning Anor Londo when the First Flame started to fade isn't a good look on most of them.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Many of the Gods mentioned in the first game are nowhere to be seen by ''2'' or ''3'', either due to being missing or dead. By ''the Ringed City'', [[spoiler:it's pretty clear ''all'' of the Gods by this point are all dead]].

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* GodIsFlawed: The gods generally ran the gamut of moral standings and weren't omniscient or omnipotent; indeed, Gwyn may have caused most of the problems in the entire series with his fear of the Dark. Aside from Gwyn, we don't get to see much of the others, but while some such as Gwyndolin and Yorshka are generally benevolent, abandoning Anor Londo when the First Flame started to fade isn't a good look on most of them.
* HaveYouSeenMyGod: Many of the Gods mentioned in the first game are nowhere to be seen by ''2'' or ''3'', either due to being missing or dead. By ''the Ringed City'', [[spoiler:it's pretty clear ''all'' of the Gods by this point are all dead]].



* JerkassGods: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. They weren't by any definition ''bad,'' but they were a BigScrewedUpFamily and promptly abandoned humanity when Anor Londo was beseiged. To say nothing of how Gwyn helped [[spoiler:indirectly foster the end of the world through his fear of the Dark]].
* LightIsNotGood: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. Despite ostensibly being divine and noble gods (and indeed, it's MetaphoricallyTrue), most ultimately cared little of humanity, and were more than content with standing at the top of the world for all of eternity - even after letting the Age of Fire run its course. [[spoiler:This ultimately led to their extinction by the end of the trilogy.]]

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* JerkassGods: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. They weren't by any definition ''bad,'' but they were a BigScrewedUpFamily and promptly abandoned humanity when Anor Londo was beseiged. To say nothing of how Gwyn helped [[spoiler:indirectly foster [[spoiler:may have indirectly fostered the end of the world through his fear of the Dark]].
* LightIsNotGood: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. Despite ostensibly being divine and noble gods (and indeed, it's MetaphoricallyTrue), most many ultimately cared little of for humanity, and were more than content with standing at the top of the world for all of eternity - even after letting the Age of Fire run its course. [[spoiler:This ultimately led to their extinction by the end of the trilogy.]]]] Gwyn's Knights were known to resent his protectiveness towards humans, whom they viewed as lesser beings than themselves.



* AlasPoorVillain: Even with as evil as they often are, it's often hard not to pity them to some extent, especially as of ''Dark Souls 3''. They were born effectively as a mistake that wasn't to be, and in swift order quickly had their ''only'' source of reproduction destroyed and effectively left a DyingRace as a result. By the time of ''3'', the number of demons you encounter in the base game are numbered in one hand, and the only demon boss you fight is [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen pitifully old and weak]] by the time you get to them. By the time of ''[[GrandFinale the Ringed City]]'', [[spoiler:they have effectively gone extinct]].

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* AlasPoorVillain: Even with as evil as they often are, it's often hard not to pity them to some extent, especially as of ''Dark Souls 3''. They were born effectively as a mistake that wasn't meant to be, and in swift order quickly had their ''only'' source of reproduction destroyed and were effectively left a DyingRace as a result. By the time of ''3'', the number of demons demon types you encounter in the base game are numbered in one hand, and the only demon boss you fight is [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen pitifully old and weak]] by the time you get to them. By the time of ''[[GrandFinale the Ringed City]]'', [[spoiler:they have effectively gone extinct]].


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* ElementalEmbodiment: Dragons were born out of the elements of the natural world, not fully alive as modern lifeforms understand life. Since fire and heat didn't exist when they reigned over the world, they were beings of stone, wood, and water, although their degenerated descendants are sometimes associated with acid, lightning, and even fire.
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** The gods of Lothric are explicitly of Gwyn's tribe (assuming Gwynevere is the Queen of Lothric, several of them are his children or grandchildren) but aren't usually associated with domains like in the previous two games. The major exceptions are Gertrude (prophet and founder of the Angelic Faith) and Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth.
** Shira is apparently half-god, half-dragon.
** Filianore is explicitly the last true god in the world, kept safe in her slumber in the Ringed City.

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* OurGodsAreDifferent: They are immortal, giant humanoids of incredible strength and sorcerous power, towering over most life of the Earth and the definitive rulers of the world. In truth, they are of the same kind of pygmies that spawned humans and demons, what makes them different is that they share Gwyn's Light Soul that he plucked from the First Flame. They are TheAgeless but just because they're immortal does not mean they're invincible; not unlike the Norse gods, they can ([[AnyoneCanDie and are]]) killed off one by one. In Gwyn's desperate attempts to preserve the Age of Fire, he ends up causing a large part of the suffering of the universe and eventually kills ''all'' the gods, including the absolute last god, Filianore, in ''VideoGame/DarkSouls3.''

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* FantasyPantheon: Some seem to have served this purpose, although what differentiates them from lesser members of Gwyn's species who aren't worshipped (such as Gwyn's knights) is vague, and the gods introduced in ''VideoGame/DarkSouls2'' might not actually be gods in the same sense as those of Anor Londo and Lothric; at least one, the hunter goddess Evlana, was explicitly a BadassNormal who was eventually considered a god after the knowledge of her humanity had faded from collective memory.
** [[TopGod Gwyn]], [[GodOfLight Lord of Sunlight]]. Progenitor of gods as a race and bearer of their Lord Soul. Also, the reason humans can't have nice things.
** [[GodOfOrder Allfather Lloyd]], Gwyn's uncle, god of law, and patron of the Way of White. Fell out of favor by the time of ''3''.
** The Nameless King. Gwyn's oldest child and a WarGod of some sort. Founded the Warriors of Sunlight before deciding to side with the dragons and getting [[{{Unperson}} erased from history]].
** Gwynevere, Princess of Sunlight. Gwyn's oldest daughter, and heir to his power over the sun. Married to the god of fire, Flann.
** Gwyndolin, god of the moon, who was raised as a goddess due to the moon's feminine associations. Has powerful illusion magic and leads the Blades of the Darkmoon covenant.
** Velka, goddess of sin. She defines sins and metes out punishment, but DarkIsNotEvil and she will also absolve the sins of those who petition her or her followers. In gameplay, this means resetting NPC aggression and removing the Sin Points that cause the Blades of the Darkmoon to invade you.
** Flann, the GodOfFire. Nothing is known about him aside from being Gywnevere's husband.
** Fina, a goddess possessing "fateful beauty" whose favor is said to be as fickle as the weather, and who seems to be a goddess of [[LoveGoddess love]], [[LadyLuck luck]], and/or protection. She seems to have empowered the Ring of Favor and Protection, which provides great buffs but breaks when you take it off. Lautrec worships her, and a ring bearing her image can be found in Lothric.
** An unnamed blacksmithing deity whose death spawned Titanite Demons.
** [=McLoyf=], god of medicine and alcohol.
** Seath is sometimes included as a honorary god associated with magic, but his worship is considered heretical and tends to drive people nuts.
** Caitha, Goddess of Tears, is a GodOfGood introduced in ''II'' who is associated with compassion and is said to remain with people in times of tragedy. However, since Caitha's Chime casts hexes and not miracles, she's sometimes suspected to be a demoness. By the time of '''III''', she's become associated with the Way of White. She's also associated with the Red and Blue Tearstone Rings; she mourns the undeserving dead with red tears, and those who have lost loved ones with blue tears.
** Faraam is a WarGod worshipped by the Lion Warriors of Forossa. His Faraam Set is the IconicOutfit of the Bearer of the Curse.
** Galib, the god of disease, was worshipped by the Leydia Witches who took up residence in the Undead Crypt.
** Kremmel, god of struggle who rewards perseverance. He's the one behind the Ring of Thorns,
** Quella, god of dreams and guardian of the dreamworld. Associated with a spirit tree, and behind the creation of the White Ring and the Spirit Tree Shield.
** Nahr Alma, god of blood and violence. Worshipped by the Brotherhood of Blood, ''II'''s pvp covenant.
** Caffrey, god of fortune.
** Zinder, god of desire. Heavily associated with snakes and the Covetous Gold Serpent Ring.
** Zandroe, god of greed who's also associated with snakes, and in his case, the Covetous Silver Serpent Ring.
** Hanleth, goddess of bliss.
** Nehma, LoveGoddess.
* OurGodsAreDifferent: They are immortal, giant humanoids of incredible strength and sorcerous power, towering over most life of the Earth and the definitive rulers of the world. In truth, they are of the same kind of pygmies that spawned humans and demons, what makes them different is that they share Gwyn's Light Soul that he plucked from the First Flame. Some members of Gwyn's species appear to be true gods who are worshipped as part of a pantheon and wield unique magic, while others like Ornstein, Smough, and the Silver Knights don't have this distinction. They are TheAgeless but just because they're immortal does not mean they're invincible; not unlike the Norse gods, they can ([[AnyoneCanDie and are]]) killed off one die if you throw enough damage at them; indeed, by one. In Gwyn's desperate attempts to preserve the Age time of Fire, he ends up causing a large part of the suffering of the universe and eventually kills ''all'' the gods, including the absolute last god, Filianore, in ''VideoGame/DarkSouls3.'' ''The Ringed City'' only Filianore remains.



* GodIsFlawed: Despite what they would like you to think, the Gods are not omniscient, and are prone to making mistakes like any human often would. In fact, much of the problem's of the plot were caused by Gwyn!

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* GodIsFlawed: Despite what they would like you to think, The gods generally ran the Gods are not omniscient, gamut of moral standings and are prone weren't omniscient or omnipotent; indeed, Gwyn caused most of the problems in the entire series with his fear of the Dark. Aside from Gwyn, we don't get to making mistakes like any human often would. In fact, see much of the problem's of others, but while some such as Gwyndolin and Yorshka are generally benevolent, abandoning Anor Londo when the plot were caused by Gwyn!First Flame started to fade isn't a good look on most of them.
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* MaouTheDemonKing: Subverted; the demons never really congregated under a single rulership, usually just as prone to fight amongst themselves as they are against everyone else. The only reason why [[VideoGame/DarkSouls3 the Old Demon King]] is even a ''King'' is because [[LastOfItsKind literally every other demon who could've contested his rule in the area is dead]].

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* MaouTheDemonKing: Subverted; the demons never really congregated under a single rulership, usually just as prone to fight amongst themselves as they are against everyone else. The only reason why [[VideoGame/DarkSouls3 the Old Demon King]] is even a ''King'' "King" is because [[LastOfItsKind [[MayorOfAGhostTown literally every other demon who could've contested his rule in the area is dead]].

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* FailureHero: They are effectively Undead who were so weak that when they attempted to link to the First Flame, they didn't even link successfully; they burned to ash. The only reason they were effectively brought back by the time of ''3'' is because those remaining to try to preserve the Age of Fire [[GodzillaThreshold were getting that desperate]].



* TooIncompetentToOperateABlanket: They are effectively Undead who were so weak that when they attempted to link to the First Flame, they didn't even link successfully; they burned to ash. The only reason they were effectively brought back by the time of ''3'' is because those remaining to try to preserve the Age of Fire [[GodzillaThreshold were getting that desperate]].
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* FinalBoss: While the First Flame was, very abstractly, the final opponent of base ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'', the Dark Soul is the final opponent of ''The Ringed City'', and by extension, the franchise as a whole - once Gael finally hollows out, the Dark Soul seems to possess him to do battle ''personally'' with the Unkindled.

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* DarkIsNotEvil: At least, not originally: the Dark represented coldness and lack of light, but also gentleness, the ancestors of men could once use it without risk - before the Darksign arrived...which sadly leads to...
** DarkIsEvil: After being shackled [[LightIsNotGood by the Seal of Fire placed by the God's]], the Dark Soul rapidly begins to corrupt itself, bringing forth nightmarish perversions of darkness like the Abyss and the Deep, some of the most malevolent forces in the saga.

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* DarkIsNotEvil: At least, not originally: the Dark represented coldness and lack of light, but also gentleness, the ancestors of men could once use it without risk - before the Darksign arrived...which sadly leads to...
** DarkIsEvil: After being shackled [[LightIsNotGood by
arrived. It only became DarkIsEvil after the Seal Seale of Fire placed by the God's]], the Dark Soul rapidly begins to corrupt itself, bringing forth nightmarish perversions of darkness like the Abyss and the Deep, some of the most malevolent forces in the saga. was created.
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* RapePillageAndBurn: While the 'rape' part of the equation is mercifully averted, everyone and everything the demons come into contact with the kill, destroy and utterly raze to the ground. There's a reason why their emergence shortly before ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' was ultimately the tipping point of [[FromBadToWorse everything going to hell]].

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* RapePillageAndBurn: While the 'rape' part of the equation is mercifully averted, everyone and everything the demons come into contact with the they kill, destroy and utterly raze to the ground. There's a reason why their emergence shortly before ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' was ultimately the tipping point of [[FromBadToWorse everything going to hell]].

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