Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Characters / BioshockAndrewRyan

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** He allowed the people of Rapture to consume plasmids, disregarding the possibility of negative side-effects. By the time said side effects became more than evident, more than half of the population were either mad addicted splicers or on the verge of turning into.


Added DiffLines:

** He claimed that everyone in Rapture would be rewarded for their efforts. However, he clearly rewarded those that either stood by his side or pleased him, while most workers were forced to live in slums. Jasmine Jolene got a luxurious suite simply for sleeping with him. Sander Cohen killed people and turned them into sculptures, but Ryan kept protecting him since he was fond of him.

Added: 447

Changed: 5

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DirtyCommunists: Born in Russia during the final, dying years of the Tsarist regime, Ryan witnessed the communists seizing power during the Revolution, including seeing family members gunned down by the Red Army. It's the foundation of Ryan's obsession with ruthless individualism and Objectivism - anything not revolving around money or borderline sociopathic self-interest is just a cover for socialism and communism as far as he's concerned.



** He saw the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as madness and parasites trying to destroy what they couldn't claim. He apparently forgot that there has been a world war for the past six years that had already claimed the lives of at least ''50 million people'' by that point, and that the US government obviously wanted to end the war as quickly as possible. Not to mention that he truly expected for the nations to immediatly start nuking each other once everyone got access to nuclear bombs until the entire world was a radioated wasteland.

to:

** He saw the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as madness and parasites trying to destroy what they couldn't claim. He apparently forgot that there has been a world war for the past six years that had already claimed the lives of at least ''50 million people'' by that point, and that the US government obviously wanted to end the war as quickly as possible. Not to mention that he truly expected for the nations to immediatly start nuking each other once everyone got access to nuclear bombs until the entire world was a radioated an irriadiated wasteland.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** He grows tired of Diane [=McClintock=] due to her ​possessiveness and jealously towards him. First of, keep it mind that Diane was his fiancée, and yet Ryan was having an affair with Jasmine Jolene since Rapture was founded. Second, Andrew Ryan is ''the last person to have the right to call someone possessive'', since he refused to pay taxes, burnt a forest he owned to prevent it from being turned to a park, "killed" Fontaine to keep his control over Rapture, and tried to sink Rapture once it was clear that Jack, under Atlas' orders, was going to kill him.


Added DiffLines:

** He has the gall to be furious once he finds out that his fiancée Diane left him to join Atlas. Ryan had been cheating on her with Jasmine Jolene for years by that point, he admitted to have grown tired of her, and he never bothered visiting her, not even once, while she was recovering from the New Year's Eve Riots. And yet, despite all of this, Ryan is shocked that Diane left him!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[caption-width-right:100:''"I rejected those answers. Instead... I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture."'']]



to:

[[caption-width-right:100:''"I rejected those answers. Instead... I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture."'']]


Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[quoteright:200:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Andrew_Ryan_Portrait_1057.png]]
[[caption-width-right:200:''"I rejected those answers. Instead... I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture."'']]



to:

[[quoteright:200:https://static.[[quoteright:100:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Andrew_Ryan_Portrait_1057.png]]
[[caption-width-right:200:''"I [[caption-width-right:100:''"I rejected those answers. Instead... I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture."'']]


Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click here for his in-game model]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/andrew_ryan_1.png ''"Would you kindly? Powerful phrase... Familiar phrase?"'' [[/labelnote]]-]]]]]

to:

[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click here for his in-game model]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/andrew_ryan_1.png ''"Would you kindly? Powerful phrase... Familiar phrase?"'' [[/labelnote]]-]]]]]
[[/labelnote]]-]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[caption-width-right:200[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click here for his in-game model]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/andrew_ryan_1.png ''"Would you kindly? Powerful phrase... Familiar phrase?"'' [[/labelnote]]-]]]]]

to:

[[caption-width-right:200[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click [[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click here for his in-game model]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/andrew_ryan_1.png ''"Would you kindly? Powerful phrase... Familiar phrase?"'' [[/labelnote]]-]]]]]

Added: 234

Changed: 308

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[caption-width-right:100:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Andrew_Ryan_Portrait_1057.png]]


[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click here for his in-game model]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/andrew_ryan_1.png[[/labelnote]]-]]]

to:

[[caption-width-right:100:https://static.[[quoteright:200:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Andrew_Ryan_Portrait_1057.png]]


[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click
png]]
[[caption-width-right:200:''"I rejected those answers. Instead... I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture."'']]



[[caption-width-right:200[[quoteright:200:[-[[labelnote:Click
here for his in-game model]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/andrew_ryan_1.png[[/labelnote]]-]]]
png ''"Would you kindly? Powerful phrase... Familiar phrase?"'' [[/labelnote]]-]]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The [[spoiler:[[GolfClubbing manner of his death]] may also count]], as he played a golf caddy on ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* PsychopathicManchild: For all his success and refinement, Ryan's whole experiment never amounts to more than a glorified tantrum from a grown man incensed that he was expected to pay his fair share and choosing to abandon a game rather than submit to the same rules as everyone else. When running the city, he refuses to listen to criticisms of his methods, ignores problems from those he deems unimportant, treats anyone who opposes him as a "parasite" and removes those who beat him at his own game and destroys anything he has to cede any control over in the same manner as a child tossing a game aside when it becomes clear they are losing. In the end, he'd rather see all of Rapture burn than see it changed from his vision and it becomes clear his entire worldview was always completely self-serving.

to:

* PsychopathicManchild: For all his success and refinement, Ryan's whole experiment never amounts to more than a glorified tantrum from a grown man incensed that he was expected to pay his fair share and choosing to abandon a game rather than submit to the same rules as everyone else. When running the city, he refuses to listen to criticisms of his methods, ignores problems from those he deems unimportant, treats anyone who opposes him as a "parasite" and removes those who beat him at his own game and destroys anything he has to cede any control over in the same manner as a child tossing a game aside when it becomes clear they are losing. In the end, he'd rather see all of Rapture burn than see it changed from his vision and it becomes clear his entire worldview was always completely self-serving.self-serving and immature.

Added: 1790

Changed: 5

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BrutalHonesty: Ryan never learns tact or how to engage in diplomacy, an essential trait for any leader, and is unable or just interested in hiding his open contempt for anyone he deems beneath him and his lack of concern for their problems, even when he is the one directly responsible for them. This comes back to bite him as the population of Rapture rightly see him as a cold-hearted autocrat who doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but himself, opening them up to manipulations from Frank and Sofia who are savvy enough to at least ''pretend" to care and exploit Ryan's callousness for own benefit.



* MisanthropeSupreme: For all his talk about leading humanity to a new golden age, Ryan seems to view basically anyone he deems a "parasite" (that is, anyone not fabulously wealthy and/or who doesn't serve him unquestioningly) with utter contempt and makes little effort to hide his disdain for the concepts of altruism, duty to one's fellow man and social responsibility as a whole and sees everyone not named "Andrew Ryan" as at best a necessary evil.

to:

* MisanthropeSupreme: For all his talk about leading humanity to a new golden age, Ryan seems to view basically anyone he deems a "parasite" (that is, anyone not fabulously wealthy and/or who doesn't serve him unquestioningly) with utter contempt and makes little effort to hide his disdain for the very concepts of altruism, duty to one's fellow man and social responsibility as a whole and sees everyone not named "Andrew Ryan" as at best a necessary evil.


Added DiffLines:

* ObliviouslyEvil: Ryan is incapable of seeing any flaws in his behavior or morality. In his mind, his status as an evolved human means he can't be judged by mortal standards and anyone who is critical of him is at best unenlightened and at worst, a parasite out to destroy all he holds dear. The mere idea that he or his beliefs could be wrong is simply unfathomable to Ryan.


Added DiffLines:

* PsychopathicManchild: For all his success and refinement, Ryan's whole experiment never amounts to more than a glorified tantrum from a grown man incensed that he was expected to pay his fair share and choosing to abandon a game rather than submit to the same rules as everyone else. When running the city, he refuses to listen to criticisms of his methods, ignores problems from those he deems unimportant, treats anyone who opposes him as a "parasite" and removes those who beat him at his own game and destroys anything he has to cede any control over in the same manner as a child tossing a game aside when it becomes clear they are losing. In the end, he'd rather see all of Rapture burn than see it changed from his vision and it becomes clear his entire worldview was always completely self-serving.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SmallNameBigEgo: Andrew envisioned that his idea of an utopia wouldn't just outlast civilization on the surface, but even expand until Rapture became the capital of the world itself. However, he couldn't even make a city built on his ideals, which had less than twenty thousand people living in it, endure longer than 20 years without it eventually tearing itself apart. Even the USSR, that Andrew not only utterly despised but even saw as the epitome of madness, lasted around seventy years.

to:

* SmallNameBigEgo: Andrew envisioned that his idea of an utopia wouldn't just outlast civilization on the surface, but even expand until Rapture became the capital of the world itself. However, he couldn't even make a city built on his ideals, which had less than twenty thousand people living in it, endure longer than 20 years without it eventually tearing itself apart. Even the USSR, that Andrew not only utterly despised but even saw as the epitome of madness, lasted around seventy years.years and that was covering one sixth of the world's landmass.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MisanthropeSupreme: For all his talk about leading humanity to a new golden age, Ryan seems to view basically anyone he deems a "parasite" (that is, anyone not fabulously wealthy and/or who doesn't serve him unquestioningly) with utter contempt and makes little effort to hide his disdain for the concepts of altruism, duty to one's fellow man and social responsibility as a whole and sees everyone not named "Andrew Ryan" as at best a necessary evil.


Added DiffLines:

* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: He has an extremely negative view of the poor and working class, varying between seeing them as lazy and looking for handouts rather than willing to work their way to success and openly seeing them as parasites and leeches out to take away his fortune. As such, he refuses to help them out, not even to provide basic maintenance services to their parts of Rapture. It's his blunt dismissal of those who make his city possible and get no respect for it that allows Frank Fontaine and Sofia Lamb to undermine him.


Added DiffLines:

* TooCleverByHalf: Ryan is far from stupid, being a savvy businessman who was able to create a vast fortune and later construct a whole city underwater. But he regards himself as an economic genius who deserves a whole nation to himself and proves hopelessly unsuited to leadership, leading to the disasters that followed.


Added DiffLines:

* UngratefulBastard: Due to his staunch Objectivist beliefs, Ryan struggles with gratitude, believing everyone is simply following their own best interests and so doesn't deserve thanks for helping others. It's his continued disrespect of the working class in Rapture that leads Frank Fontaine to gain power and undermine Ryan. He's even this on a national level as he was able to become extremely wealthy and influential in the United States but was so offended at the notion that he owed the country anything in return, even something as simple as just paying taxes, that he left in anger to start his own nation.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, [[NeverMyFault he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' couldn't follow his example]].

to:

** For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, [[NeverMyFault he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' everyone else couldn't follow his example]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

----
->''"A man chooses! A slave obeys!"''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Ubermensch}}: A now-famous example of this trope: he rejected the world and its moralities entirely, and built the outrageous city of Rapture to have his way. {{Subverted}} in that for all of his keeping with appearances of sophistication and industrialist enlightenment, his [[{{UsefulNotes/Objectivism}} Objectivist]] ideals broke down under practical application and a citizenry that didn't fully embrace them. He also doesn't appear to be as intelligent as he thinks he is: while building Rapture was a miracle of engineering and enough of an undertaking to qualify as a world wonder, he had terrible people skills, which opened him up to easily to rivalry by charismatic troublemakers such as Fontaine or Atlas. He also embraced the hypocrisy of going completely, [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity uncompromisingly]] authoritarian without a hint of irony or self-awareness, bringing into question his integrity or his actual capacity for philosophy.

to:

* {{Ubermensch}}: A now-famous example of this trope: he He rejected the world and its moralities entirely, and built the outrageous city of Rapture to have his way. {{Subverted}} in that for all of his keeping with appearances of sophistication and industrialist enlightenment, his [[{{UsefulNotes/Objectivism}} Objectivist]] ideals broke down under practical application and a citizenry that didn't fully embrace them. He also doesn't appear to be as intelligent as he thinks he is: while building Rapture was a miracle of engineering and enough of an undertaking to qualify as a world wonder, he had terrible people skills, which opened him up to easily to rivalry by charismatic troublemakers such as Fontaine or Atlas. He Ryan also embraced the hypocrisy of going completely, [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity uncompromisingly]] authoritarian without a hint of irony or self-awareness, bringing into question his integrity or his actual capacity for philosophy.philosophy. Late in the game, it can be read that [[OriginalPositionFallacy Ryan was completely fine with the system being unfair, so long as it wasn't unfair to him]]. The moment it was, Ryan revealed himself for the ControlFreak that he really was.

Added: 1537

Changed: 708

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' couldn't follow his example.

to:

** For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, [[NeverMyFault he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' couldn't follow his example.example]].



* NeverMyFault: After building up his own mob of Splicers, he blames them for their own deformities, citing their "carelessness" in overusing his Plasmids. Same goes for the Little Sisters. Ryan has become completely boxed in by the tenets of his philosophy, is unable to admit that his costly experiment has failed, and finally embracing delusion rather than confront what he's become. ''Literature/BioShockRapture'' delved into this even more as he views any (very serious and economical) complaints to him as people "refusing to be self-sufficient" when it's his own rules that are keeping many of the less fortunate people from getting ahead in Rapture and his refusal to make concessions to help them.

to:

* NeverMyFault: NeverMyFault:
**
After building up his own mob of Splicers, he blames them for their own deformities, citing their "carelessness" in overusing his Plasmids. Same goes for the Little Sisters. Sisters.
** By the time the game proper starts,
Ryan has become completely boxed in by the tenets of his philosophy, is unable to admit that his costly experiment has failed, and finally starts embracing a comforting delusion rather than confront the awful truth of what he's become. Now that his objectivist "utopia" has fallen apart and is on its last legs, Ryan blames everyone else for not following his example of Rapture strongly enough. He'll blame Atlas and Fontaine for creating competition, blame the "parasites" of the world who couldn't make it in Rapture, blame the Splicers for causing their own downfall when he helped create and feed their addiction, and blames anyone who tried to help him for secretly plotting against him. Ryan never blames himself, save for a single moment in the last audio log of him that you can find. And even then, [[IgnoredEpiphany he refuses to question his beliefs now]] because to even question them at this point would mean that his enemies win in Ryan's eyes, and he can't give them the satisfaction.
**
''Literature/BioShockRapture'' delved into this even more as he views any (very serious and economical) complaints to him as people "refusing to be self-sufficient" when it's his own rules that are keeping many of the less fortunate people from getting ahead in Rapture and his refusal to make concessions to help them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Hypocrite}}: As the civil war gets worse and worse, he starts betraying his stances, citing it was for the good of the city. But pretty much everyone who knew him could tell he was becoming not any better (and in some ways, no different) than the people he was fighting against.

to:

* {{Hypocrite}}: As the civil war gets worse and worse, he Fontaine starts beating him at his own game, Ryan starts betraying his stances, citing it was for the good of the city. But pretty much everyone who knew him the man could tell he Ryan was becoming not any no better (and in some ways, no different) than the people he was fighting against.against. Indeed, Ryan's FatalFlaw is the fact that he's a massive hypocrite, and what he ''really'' wants, deep down, is [[ControlFreak for everyone to just do what he says, all the time, without ever questioning him]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** While Andrew Ryan's politics played a huge role in the social degredation of Rapture, he does have a point that the majority of the people that were complaining about not being paid enough to have a better lifestyle were spending most of their money in buying plasmids and ADAM. They bought these things because it granted them a momentary period of ecstasy and power, apparently not caring that this was only temporary, would make them eager for more and eventually financially broke.

Added: 1348

Changed: 541

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** He claimed to allow freedom of speech, but unions were banned and you can hear public announcements informing you that in Rapture, gatherings of more than four people in a public place is an offence. This is actually a real law in some dictatorships that by its nature outlaws strikes, protest rallies and even restricts the reporting media (since multiple people are needed to broadcast any event, with more if you want to interview a bystander).

to:

** He claimed to allow freedom of speech, but he was the owner of the Rapture's newspapers and always kept a tight leash on everything written on it, and anything close to resembling unions were banned and was banned. Later on, you can hear public announcements informing you that in Rapture, gatherings of more than four people in a public place is an offence. This is actually a real law in some dictatorships that by its nature outlaws strikes, protest rallies and even restricts the reporting media (since multiple people are needed to broadcast any event, with more if you want to interview a bystander).



** The US government wanted to nationalize a park Ryan owned and turn into a public park? Ryan deemed it the work of parasites trying to take something that rightfully belonged solely to him, so he burned it to the ground. Ryan taking over Fontaine Futuristics? It's not nationalization because it was ''necessary'' and Rapture, (and everything in it) belonged to Ryan from the start.



* KnowNothingKnowItAll: For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' couldn't follow his example.

to:

* KnowNothingKnowItAll: KnowNothingKnowItAll:
**
For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' couldn't follow his example.example.
** After seeing that Sofia Lamb was causing unrest, he decided to engage her in public debates in order to show the people of Rapture that she was a Marxist instigator. Sofia, who had at least two college degrees, was quick to turn the tables on Ryan by showing how hyppocritical his beliefs were, like, for example, his faith in the Great Chain was no different from the Christians' towards crosses. Ryan, noticing that this didn't have the planned result, decided to arrest her instead and [[BlatantLies make everyone else believe that she had abandoned his followers]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheScrooge: Even though he was one of the wealthiest men in the entire world, Andrew Ryan always had a problem with giving away his money.
** Despite the fact that the US welcomed him, a refugee from Russia, with open arms, provided him the means to get a better life and become a tycoon, Andrew Ryan decided to leave it because they expected him to ''pay taxes''. This was actually shared by his father, the latter even going to jail because he refused to do so.
** The first thing that made him like Bill [=McDonagh=] was that the latter asked a very reasonable bill for his work as a plumber.
** In Rapture, his relunctance to provide more money to finance Suchong's and Tenenbaum's research is what made the two decide to work for Fontaine. This came to bite him hard, as their work on plasmids is what allowed Fontaine to gain a lot of income and have the opportunity to supplant Ryan in terms of being the most successful businessman.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* KnowNothingKnowItAll: For a man that apparently never went to college and that earned his first fortune by finding oil in his property ''by sheer luck'', Ryan sure acts like he knows how economy, society, and even civilization itself should function better than every government on Earth. And once his "utopia" starts falling apart, he believes that it was because ''everyone else'' couldn't follow his example.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FaceDeathWithDignity: In the end, Ryan gracefully accepts his end, calmly tearing down Jack for what he is and dying on his own terms via PsychicAssistedSuicide rather than try to escape his fate.

to:

* FaceDeathWithDignity: In the end, Ryan gracefully accepts his end, calmly tearing down Jack for what he is and dying on his own terms via PsychicAssistedSuicide rather than try to escape his fate. The gruesome sequence of him being beaten to death, however, makes the situation seem more nightmarish than inspiring.



* UndignifiedDeath: Despite choosing to FaceDeathWithDignity, it still stands that Jack killed him with a freaking ''golf club''.

to:

* UndignifiedDeath: Despite choosing to FaceDeathWithDignity, be DefiantToTheEnd, it still stands that Jack killed him with a freaking ''golf club''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** For that matter, he stated to Bill that he had no respect for quitters, mentioning those that wanted to leave Rapture after growing disillusioned with its system, and even began a policy of executing anyone that attempted to do so. However, one of the main reasons that made Ryan want to build Rapture was because the United States didn't turn out to be the perfect society he expected, and so he decided to abandon it and create his own.

to:

*** For that matter, he stated to Bill that he had no respect for quitters, mentioning those that who wanted to leave Rapture after growing disillusioned with its system, and even began a policy of executing anyone that who attempted to do so. However, one of the main reasons that made Ryan want to build Rapture was because the United States didn't turn out to be the perfect society he expected, and so he decided to abandon it and create his own.



** When Bill [=McDonagh=] suggested banning plasmids due to the problems it was causing, Ryan rejected it, saying that the Prohibition didn't work, so banning plasmids wouldn't either. This is despite the fact that Ryan already forbade all sorts of goods from the outside world in Rapture, therefore creating a black market of smugglers for them. This becomes even worse once it's revealed that most of Ryan's expensive belongings, such as his drinks and furniture, all came from outside of Raptture.

to:

** When Bill [=McDonagh=] suggested banning plasmids due to the problems it was causing, Ryan rejected it, saying that the Prohibition didn't work, so banning plasmids wouldn't either. This is despite the fact that Ryan already forbade all sorts of goods from the outside world in Rapture, therefore creating a black market of smugglers for them. This becomes even worse once it's revealed that most of Ryan's expensive belongings, such as his drinks and furniture, all came from outside of Raptture.Rapture.



** He was furious when he found out that [[spoiler: Jasmine sold his child to Fontaine and murdered her in cold blood]]. This coming from the guy that started kidnapping children, even attempting to kidnap the daughter of Bill, his friend and most loyal employee, all to create new Little Sisters and increase the plasmid production.

to:

** He was furious when he found out that [[spoiler: Jasmine sold his child to Fontaine and murdered her in cold blood]]. This coming comes from the guy that who started kidnapping children, even attempting to kidnap the daughter of Bill, his friend and most loyal employee, all to create new Little Sisters and increase the plasmid production.



* IfICantHaveYou: Did this to a ''forest'' that he owned, burning it to the ground when the government tried to nationalize the land and turn it into a public park. [[spoiler:He tries doing this to Rapture itself to prevent Atlas from taking control of it. Fortunately Jack stops him in time.]]

to:

* IfICantHaveYou: Did this to a ''forest'' that he owned, burning it to the ground when the government tried to nationalize the land and turn it into a public park. [[spoiler:He tries doing this to Rapture itself to prevent Atlas from taking control of it. Fortunately Fortunately, Jack stops him in time.]]

Added: 912

Changed: 280

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** He saw the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as madness and parasites trying to destroy what they couldn't claim. He apparently forgot that there has been a world war for the past six years that had already claimed the lives of at least ''50 million people'' by that point, and that the US government obviously wanted to end the war as quickly as possible. Not to mention that he truly expected for the nations to immediatly start nuking each other once everyone got access to nuclear bombs until the entire world was a radioated wasteland.



** When Bill [=McDonagh=] suggested banning plasmids due to the problems it was causing, Ryan rejected it, saying that the Prohibition didn't work, so banning plasmids wouldn't either. This is despite the fact that Ryan already forbade all sorts of goods from the outside world in Rapture, therefore creating a black market of smugglers for them.

to:

** When Bill [=McDonagh=] suggested banning plasmids due to the problems it was causing, Ryan rejected it, saying that the Prohibition didn't work, so banning plasmids wouldn't either. This is despite the fact that Ryan already forbade all sorts of goods from the outside world in Rapture, therefore creating a black market of smugglers for them. This becomes even worse once it's revealed that most of Ryan's expensive belongings, such as his drinks and furniture, all came from outside of Raptture.



* {{Irony}}: Creates an Objectivist utopia, but subverts it as soon as he realizes he's being beaten in fair competition with a "parasite".

to:

* {{Irony}}: {{Irony}}:
**
Creates an Objectivist utopia, but subverts it as soon as he realizes he's being beaten in fair competition with a "parasite"."parasite".
** For all his paranoia regarding the world outside of Rapture, his "perfect utopia" fell apart due to the actions of both himelf and people he not only allowed but even invited into Rapture (Fontaine, Lamb, Suchong, Tenenbaum, Cohen, etc).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* OriginalPositionFallacy: Was a devoted proponent of Objectivism... until it looked like Frank Fontaine would outcompete ''him''. Then he threw a fit and had Fontaine assassinated. [[spoiler: Not that it worked; Fontaine faked his death and eventually outlived Ryan, ironically proving that he was, in Objectivist terms, the better man.]]

Top