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* EnemyWithout: [[spoiler:He is a SoulFragment extracted from from Mandus and inserted into the Machine to give it life.]]

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* EnemyWithout: [[spoiler:He is a SoulFragment extracted from from Mandus and inserted into the Machine to give it life.]]



* [[CreepyChild Creepy Children]]

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* [[CreepyChild Creepy Children]] {{Creepy Child}}ren



* DeadAllAlong: [[spoiler:Were killed before the game starts by Mandus both as a sacrifice to the Machine and to save from from dying in the Somme]].
* InfantImmortality: [[spoiler: Averted as their deaths play a pivotal role in the story.]]

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* DeadAllAlong: [[spoiler:Were killed before the game starts by Mandus both as a sacrifice to the Machine and to save from them from dying in the Somme]].
* InfantImmortality: [[spoiler: Averted [[spoiler:Averted as their deaths play a pivotal role in the story.]]



* [[spoiler:OffingTheOffspring: Both were killed by Oswald to prevent them from dying horrible deaths in World War I.]]
* WalkingSpoiler: Not quite to the degree of the above, but certainly not nonexistant!

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* [[spoiler:OffingTheOffspring: Both OffingTheOffspring: [[spoiler:Both were killed by Oswald to prevent them from dying horrible deaths in World War I.]]
* WalkingSpoiler: Not quite Explaining what happened to them (and why) is central to the degree of the above, but certainly not nonexistant!plot.

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* VoiceOfTheLegion: The Engineer's voice has a noticeable echo, making his final gloating ever so dramatic.


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* LoveMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler:Mandus murdered his own children to spare them an even more grisly death at the Battle of Somme years later.]] In a more subtle example, Mandus writes in a journal entry that he believes [[spoiler: the "split in his soul" that led to the birth of the Engineer in fact existed long before he found the Orb, caused by the love and hatred he felt for his sons at their birth.]]

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* LoveMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler:Mandus murdered his own children to spare them an even more grisly death at the Battle of the Somme years later.]] In a more subtle example, Mandus writes in a journal entry that he believes [[spoiler: the "split in his soul" that led to the birth of the Engineer in fact existed long before he found the Orb, caused by the love and hatred he felt for his sons at their birth.]]



* MechanicalAbomination: Is [[spoiler:an artificial replacement for God created by the main character to prevent the horrors of the 20th century, sustained by human sacrifice on a literally industrial scale, but it instead creates the pig monsters and plans to destroy/consume humanity]]. It's a cross between an EternalEngine and EldritchLocation that has developed into a MadGod.



* PsychopathicManchild: [[spoiler:For all its' crimes and follies, the Engineer is almost like a bitter child happy to wish away all the problems of the world and humanity. Right up to begging "Daddy" Mandus to not kill it at the start of the game.]]

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* PsychopathicManchild: [[spoiler:For all its' its crimes and follies, the Engineer is almost like a bitter child happy to wish away all the problems of the world and humanity. Right up to begging "Daddy" Mandus to not kill it at the start of the game.]]
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* MaddenIntoMisanthropy: [[spoiler: He received a vision of the atrocities of the 20th century and went so nuts that he funneled a considerable amount of his wealth into making a massive underground machine designed solely for the systematic slaughtering of human beings, who he saw as no better than pigs.]]
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* TheKillerInMe: When Mandus touches an orb he found in South America, it shatters into two, the result is [[spoiler: a malevolent split personality, "The Engineer", is created. It dominates Oswald's decisions and character there-after, until it [[BrainUploading eventually abandons him in favor of a more powerful mechanical body]].

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* TheKillerInMe: When Mandus touches an orb he found in South America, it shatters into two, the result is [[spoiler: a malevolent split personality, "The Engineer", is created. It dominates Oswald's decisions and character there-after, until it [[BrainUploading eventually abandons him in favor of a more powerful mechanical body]]. ]]

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* TheKillerInMe: When Mandus touches an orb he found in South America, it shatters into two, the result is [[spoiler: a malevolent split personality, "The Engineer", is created. It dominates Oswald's decisions and character there-after, until it [[BrainUploading eventually abandons him in favor of a more powerful mechanical body]].



A strange entity who claims to know the location of Mandus' missing sons. Remaining unseen, he guides Mandus around by talking to him over telephones throughout the complex.

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A strange entity who claims to know the location of Mandus' missing sons. Remaining unseen, he guides Mandus around by talking to him over telephones throughout the complex. [[spoiler: It turns out The Engineer is the malevolent split personality of Oswald which has [[BrainUploading uploaded itself]] into the Machine, leaving Mandus for dead.]]

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* MeaningfulName: Oswald Mandus is a play on Ozymandias, referencing his obsession with making his factory the "great work of the industrial age". [[spoiler:Eventually, with his insanity, fell into the lines of the poem of the same name. Look upon his works, ye mighty, and despair.]]
** [[spoiler:He also shares the motive and loose methodology- causing one atrocity in order to prevent a worse one- of ''{{Watchmen}}'''s Adrian Veidt, whose former superhero name was... Ozymandias.]]

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Oswald Mandus is a play on Ozymandias, referencing his obsession with making his factory the "great work of the industrial age". [[spoiler:Eventually, with his insanity, fell into the lines of the poem of the same name. Look upon his works, ye mighty, and despair.]]
** [[spoiler:He He also shares the motive and loose methodology- methodology [[spoiler:-- causing one atrocity in order to prevent a worse one- one -- of ''{{Watchmen}}'''s ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'''s Adrian Veidt, whose former superhero name was... Ozymandias.]]
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** [[Spoiler:He also shares the motive and loose methodology- causing one atrocity in order to prevent a worse one- of ''{{Watchmen}}'''s Adrian Veidt, whose former superhero name was... Ozymandias.]]

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* {{Badass}}: Out of all the ''Amnesia'' protagonists, he is without doubt the bravest. Consider his willingness to dive into what is essentially a mechanical hell without rancour or hesitation in order to save his children, [[spoiler:and then his red-hot fury when he realizes what the Engineer has caused him to do. How many other protagonists from this series have told off an Eldritch Abomination?]] In addition, he is perhaps the only one capable of actually some destroying the monsters that assail him; the Tesla Pigs explode if he flickers his lantern at them.
** BadassBeard: According to the Frictional Games, this [[http://amnesia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Oswald_Mandus.jpg picture]] of a Victorian gentleman is an approximation of what Mandus looks like. Combined with Mandus' extreme PapaWolf tendencies and sheer determination, he is indeed quite badass.
** BadassBoast: When endeavoring to [[spoiler:destroy the Engineer]], he refers to himself as an 'Angel of Vengeance'. And then there's this:

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* {{Badass}}: Out of all the ''Amnesia'' protagonists, he is without doubt the bravest. Consider his willingness to dive into what is essentially a mechanical hell without rancour or hesitation in order to save his children, [[spoiler:and then his red-hot fury when he realizes what the Engineer has caused him to do. How many other protagonists from this series have told off an Eldritch Abomination?]] In addition, he is perhaps the only one capable of actually some destroying the monsters that assail him; the Tesla Pigs explode if he flickers his lantern at them.
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BadassBeard: According to the Frictional Games, this [[http://amnesia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Oswald_Mandus.jpg picture]] of a Victorian gentleman is an approximation of what Mandus looks like. Combined with Mandus' extreme PapaWolf tendencies and sheer determination, he is indeed quite badass.
** * BadassBoast: When endeavoring to [[spoiler:destroy the Engineer]], he refers to himself as an 'Angel of Vengeance'. And then there's this:
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* MercyKill: Prior to the events of the game, he [[spoiler: killed his children in order to spare them the horrors of the 20th century]].
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* VoiceOfTheLegion: The Engineer's voice has a noticeable echo, making his final gloating ever so dramatic.
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* EvilutionaryBiologist
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* DeadAllAlong: [[spoiler:Were killed before the game starts by Mandus both as a sacrifice to the Machine and to save from from dying in the Somme]]

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* DeadAllAlong: [[spoiler:Were killed before the game starts by Mandus both as a sacrifice to the Machine and to save from from dying in the Somme]]Somme]].
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Mandus' son, who has gone missing.

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Mandus' son, sons, who has have gone missing.

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->But we can save them, we can set them free, we can replace a rotten old world, with a clean new one.



->This is your doing, Mandus. This is what you dreamt into being.



!!!Voiced by: Mark Roper

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An unknown guest who was sent to Mandus' factory by the ministry. He is never seen in-game, but is referenced in Mandus' documents and can be heard having conversations with Mandus on various phonographs scattered around the game.



* NoNameGiven
* PosthumousCharacter

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NoNameGiven: "Professor A" is a pseudonym.
* PosthumousCharacterPosthumousCharacter: Him and Mandus' last conversation implies that Mandus killed him by [[spoiler:throwing him into the Machine]].
* TheWatson: Play this role in his conversations with Mandus.

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->Voiced by: Toby Longworth

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A wealthy industrialist and butcher who is implied to be the great grand-nephew of Daniel, the protagonist of ''The Dark Descent''. Upon the beginning of the game, Mandus awakens from a fever that has unknowingly lasted for several months, after returning from a "disastrous" expedition to explore Aztec ruins in Mexico. Unable to find his sons and haunted by their voices, Mandus decides to explore the strange complex under his house in hopes of finding them.



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A strange entity who claims to know the location of Mandus' missing sons. Remaining unseen, he guides Mandus around by talking to him over telephones throughout the complex.



->Voiced by: Zak Craig

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Mandus' son, who has gone missing.



* DeathByChildbirth

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* DeathByChildbirth DeathByChildbirth: Died giving birth to Enoch and Edwin.



The main enemies encountered in the game. They come in three varieties: Wretches, Engineers, and Tesla.

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Deformed and twisted swine-like monstrosities that patrol the depths of the complex beneath Mandus' estate. The main enemies encountered in the game. They come in three varieties: Wretches, Engineers, and Tesla.
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* TeleportSpam: [[spoiler:The Tesla Manpigs are particularly affected by the Compound X, resulting in their bodies emitting an electrical charge and flickering in and out of existence.]] Luckily, [[spoiler:[[WeaksauceWeakness light makes them explode]]]].

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* TeleportSpam: [[spoiler:The Tesla Manpigs are particularly affected by the Compound X, resulting in their bodies emitting an electrical charge and flickering in and out of existence.]] Luckily, [[spoiler:[[WeaksauceWeakness [[spoiler:[[WeakenedByTheLight light makes them explode]]]].
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* EnemyWithout

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* EnemyWithoutEnemyWithout: [[spoiler:He is a SoulFragment extracted from from Mandus and inserted into the Machine to give it life.]]
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* LoveMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler:Mandus murdered his own children to spare them an even more grisly death at the Battle of Somme years later.]]

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* LoveMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler:Mandus murdered his own children to spare them an even more grisly death at the Battle of Somme years later.]] In a more subtle example, Mandus writes in a journal entry that he believes [[spoiler: the "split in his soul" that led to the birth of the Engineer in fact existed long before he found the Orb, caused by the love and hatred he felt for his sons at their birth.]]
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* OffingTheOffspring: Both were killed by Oswald to prevent them from dying horrible deaths in World War I.]]

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* OffingTheOffspring: [[spoiler:OffingTheOffspring: Both were killed by Oswald to prevent them from dying horrible deaths in World War I.]]

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* [[spoiler: AristocratsAreEvil: Though far, far less so than Alexander.]]

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* [[spoiler: AristocratsAreEvil: Though [[spoiler:Though far, far less so than Alexander.]]



* [[spoiler: GoMadFromTheRevelation: Mandus seeing the future drove him nuts enough to murder thousands to try and stop it, including his own children.]]
* [[spoiler: HeelRealization]]

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* [[spoiler: GoMadFromTheRevelation: Mandus [[spoiler:Mandus seeing the future drove him nuts enough to murder thousands to try and stop it, including his own children.]]
* [[spoiler: HeelRealization]] HeelRealization: [[spoiler:When he realizes the Machine's intentions to stop the horrors of the 20th century.]]



* [[spoiler: HeroicSacrifice]]

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* [[spoiler: HeroicSacrifice]] HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Doubles into HeroicSuicide, as he knew he would die when he goes back to destroy the Machine, but does it anyway.]]



* [[spoiler: LoveMakesYouEvil: Mandus murdered his own children to spare them an even more grisly death at the Battle of Somme years later.]]

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* [[spoiler: LoveMakesYouEvil: Mandus [[spoiler:Mandus murdered his own children to spare them an even more grisly death at the Battle of Somme years later.]]



* [[spoiler: OffingTheOffspring: After seeing his children would die horrifically in the war, Mandus cut out their hearts as a ritual sacrifice in hopes of creating a god who could save the world from the slaughters of the 20th century.]]

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* [[spoiler: OffingTheOffspring: After [[spoiler:After seeing his children would die horrifically in the war, Mandus cut out their hearts as a ritual sacrifice in hopes of creating a god who could save the world from the slaughters of the 20th century.]]



* [[spoiler: RedemptionEqualsDeath: To protect all of London from becoming sacrifices to the Engineer, Mandus re-merges with his creation, killing them both.]]

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* [[spoiler: RedemptionEqualsDeath: To [[spoiler:To protect all of London from becoming sacrifices to the Engineer, Mandus re-merges with his creation, killing them both.]]



* [[spoiler: WellIntentionedExtremist: Initially, flashbacks of what appear to be earlier stages of his "collaborations" with the Engineer show Mandus as being uncomfortable with the monstrous actions he eventually convinces him to undertake. Later on, he seems to truly believe what he was doing was necessary and ultimately positive. And yet, when he beholds the Machine's motives in full for the first time...]]

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* [[spoiler: WellIntentionedExtremist: Initially, [[spoiler:Initially, flashbacks of what appear to be earlier stages of his "collaborations" with the Engineer show Mandus as being uncomfortable with the monstrous actions he eventually convinces him to undertake. Later on, he seems to truly believe what he was doing was necessary and ultimately positive. And yet, when he beholds the Machine's motives in full for the first time...]]



* [[spoiler: AGodAmI: Due to the Orb's power and the countless sacrificed to it, as well as his "mission" to prevent the horrors of the 20th century, it considers itself a god.]]
* [[spoiler: AmbiguousInnocence: It is quite childlike in a lot of ways, for both good and bad.]]
* [[spoiler: AxCrazy: After finally tricking Mandus into reactivating the machine, all trace of friendliness and sanity slip away replaced by a cackling megalomaniac.]]
* [[spoiler: BigBad]]
* [[spoiler:DeusEstMachina: The constant sacrifices are meant to turn it and the piece of Mandus' soul it contains into a bloody god.]]
* [[spoiler: EldritchAbomination[=/=]EldritchLocation: Due to the abruptly shifting, warping, and maddening nature and layout of the machine it qualifies as the latter, which coupled with its unfathomable power qualify it as the former.]]
* [[spoiler: EnemyWithout]]
* TheEngineer
* [[spoiler: EvilIsHammy: Fittingly for an entity that commands legions of manpigs, the Engineer is about as hammy as it gets.]]
* [[spoiler: GeniusLoci]]
* [[spoiler: HauntedTechnology]]
* [[spoiler: KnightTemplar: Plans to save humanity from the nightmare of the 20th century by exterminating and enslaving them itself.]]
* [[spoiler: MadGod]]

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* [[spoiler: AGodAmI: Due [[spoiler:Due to the Orb's power and the countless sacrificed to it, as well as his "mission" to prevent the horrors of the 20th century, it considers itself a god.]]
* [[spoiler: AmbiguousInnocence: It [[spoiler:It is quite childlike in a lot of ways, for both good and bad.]]
* [[spoiler: AxCrazy: After finally tricking Mandus into reactivating AntagonistTitle: [[spoiler:It is the machine, all trace of friendliness and sanity slip away replaced by a cackling megalomaniac."Machine for Pigs".]]
* [[spoiler: BigBad]]
* [[spoiler:DeusEstMachina: The constant sacrifices are meant to turn it and the piece of Mandus' soul it contains
AxCrazy: [[spoiler:After finally tricking Mandus into reactivating the machine, all trace of friendliness and sanity slip away replaced by a bloody god.cackling megalomaniac.]]
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* DeusEstMachina: [[spoiler:The constant sacrifices are meant to turn it and the piece of Mandus' soul it contains into a bloody god.]]
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EldritchAbomination[=/=]EldritchLocation: Due [[spoiler:Due to the abruptly shifting, warping, and maddening nature and layout of the machine it qualifies as the latter, which coupled with its unfathomable power qualify it as the former.]]
* [[spoiler: EnemyWithout]]
EnemyWithout
* TheEngineer
TheEngineer: [[spoiler:Though "the Engine" is probably more accurate.]]
* [[spoiler: EvilIsHammy: Fittingly [[spoiler:Fittingly for an entity that commands legions of manpigs, the Engineer is about as hammy as it gets.]]
* [[spoiler: GeniusLoci]]
GeniusLoci
* [[spoiler: HauntedTechnology]]
HauntedTechnology
* [[spoiler: KnightTemplar: Plans [[spoiler:Plans to save humanity from the nightmare of the 20th century by exterminating and enslaving them itself.]]
* [[spoiler: MadGod]]MadGod



* [[spoiler: MisanthropeSupreme]]
* MotiveRant: His [[Quotes/AmnesiaAMachineForPigs speech at the end of the game]], which describes what happens [[spoiler: in the 20th century]] is ''magnificent''.
* [[spoiler: MurderIsTheBestSolution]]
* [[spoiler: OmnicidalManiac: Has twisted countless people into the tortured manpigs and plans to use them to slaughter the entirety of humanity by feeding them to the machine.]]
** Also [[spoiler: his quotes about "splitting the egg and the atom" heavily hint that his plans are to annihilate the entire planet with the power gained from the slaughter of London's population. This is basically confirmed by cut dialogue in the game files]].
* [[spoiler: PsychopathicManchild: For all its' crimes and follies, the Engineer is almost like a bitter child happy to wish away all the problems of the world and humanity. Right up to begging "Daddy" Mandus to not kill it at the start of the game.]]
* [[spoiler: StrawNihilist]]
* TheVoice

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* [[spoiler: MisanthropeSupreme]]
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* MotiveRant: His [[Quotes/AmnesiaAMachineForPigs speech at the end of the game]], which describes what happens [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in the 20th century]] is ''magnificent''.
* [[spoiler: MurderIsTheBestSolution]]
MurderIsTheBestSolution: Its decision instead of [[spoiler:the horrors of the 20th century]].
* [[spoiler: OmnicidalManiac: Has [[spoiler:Has twisted countless people into the tortured manpigs and plans to use them to slaughter the entirety of humanity by feeding them to the machine.]]
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]] Also [[spoiler: his quotes about "splitting the egg and the atom" heavily hint that his plans are to annihilate the entire planet with the power gained from the slaughter of London's population. This is basically confirmed by cut dialogue in the game files]].
* [[spoiler: PsychopathicManchild: For [[spoiler:For all its' crimes and follies, the Engineer is almost like a bitter child happy to wish away all the problems of the world and humanity. Right up to begging "Daddy" Mandus to not kill it at the start of the game.]]
* [[spoiler: StrawNihilist]]
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* TheVoiceVillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:As Mandus begins to destroy the Machine for good, he progressively becomes increasingly frantic, such as repeating "stophimstophimstophim" on the broadcast system for workers, and culminating in his MotiveRant.]]
* TheVoice: A JustifiedTrope, as [[spoiler:he's the machine itself, meaning you're inside him for much of the game]].



* [[spoiler: WellIntentionedExtremist: Despite his despicable crimes and plans, he genuinely wants to "save" humanity and to stop the countless wars and genocides that will come with the 20th century.]]

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* [[spoiler: DeadAllAlong: Were killed before the game starts by Mandus both as a sacrifice to the Machine and to save from from dying in the Somme]]

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* [[spoiler: DeadAllAlong: Were [[spoiler:Were killed before the game starts by Mandus both as a sacrifice to the Machine and to save from from dying in the Somme]]



** [[spoiler: HarmfulToMinors]]
* [[spoiler: OffingTheOffspring: Both were killed by Oswald to prevent them from dying horrible deaths in World War I.]]

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** [[spoiler: HarmfulToMinors]]
HarmfulToMinors: Implied throughout the game, [[spoiler:and ultimately confirmed, as well as the fact that it is Oswald's fault]].
* [[spoiler: OffingTheOffspring: Both were killed by Oswald to prevent them from dying horrible deaths in World War I.]]



* [[spoiler: PosthumousCharacter]]

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* [[spoiler:TeleportSpam]]: [[spoiler:The Tesla Manpigs are particularly affected by the Compound X, resulting in their bodies emitting an electrical charge and flickering in and out of existence.]] Luckily, [[spoiler:[[WeaksauceWeakness light makes them explode]]]].

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* StartXToStopX: His FatalFlaw, arguably. He has no other way to [[BuffySpeak combat what he hates other than to use what he hates to combat what he hates]].

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* StartXToStopX: His FatalFlaw, arguably. He has no other way to [[BuffySpeak combat what he hates other than to use what he hates to combat what he hates]].hates. [[spoiler:This is also the logic he used in creating the Machine, though he's decidedly more lucid after his LaserGuidedAmnesia]].
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* TheAtoner: To an even greater extant than Daniel, from the previous game.

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* TheAtoner: To an even greater extant extent than Daniel, Daniel from the previous game.
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* FantasticRacism: The different varieties seem to have some issues with each other. At one point, you can see an Engineer violently beating a Wrecth for no apparent reason.

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* FantasticRacism: The different varieties seem to have some issues with each other. At one point, you can see an Engineer violently beating a Wrecth Wretch for no apparent reason.
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The main enemies encountered in the game. They come in three varieties: Wrecthes, Engineers, and Tesla.

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The main enemies encountered in the game. They come in three varieties: Wrecthes, Wretches, Engineers, and Tesla.
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* FantasticRacism: The different varieties seem to have issues with each other. At one point, you can see an Engineer violently beating a Wrecth for no apparent reason.

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* FantasticRacism: The different varieties seem to have some issues with each other. At one point, you can see an Engineer violently beating a Wrecth for no apparent reason.

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