History Characters / ASongOfIceAndFireHouseBaratheon

24th Dec '16 11:21:21 AM RoyFlowers
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** Steffon Baratheon, father to Robert, Stannis and Renly, was lifelong friends with Aerys Targaryen and Tywin Lannister, since they all grew up together and fought in the same war. He remained on friendly terms with both even after Aerys and Tywin's own friendship deteriorated. [[spoiler: Ironic, considering Steffon's sons, Robert and Stannis, would later become great threats to both Aerys and Tywin.]]
24th Dec '16 11:12:47 AM RoyFlowers
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* ThePowerOfFriendship: Unlike most great houses, Baratheons are not concerned so much with family (since they often find it difficult to get along), but by their meaningful friendships. They just love their RedOniBlueOni dynamics.
** We initially have [[LargeHam Robert]] [[BoisterousBruiser Baratheon's]] OddFriendship with [[TheQuietOne Ned]] [[TheStoic Stark.]] He sees Ned as a brother even more than his actual brothers, whom he can't stand. And working together, they were able to lead half the realm in overthrowing the Targaryens.
** Renly is very proud of his ability to win friends easily. He spends more time with his close companion Loras Tyrell and his family than with his own relatives. His popularity and charming personality making him the one claimant to the throne with the most supporters at the outset of the War of the Five Kings. According to Renly, his power lies in the combined strength of his many "friends." [[spoiler: Subverted, in that none of Renly's friends were able to save him from his death, and most of them joined forces with the man who ordered it immediately after.]]
** Stannis believes he has no friends, only subjects and enemies. But his most meaningful relationship is with Davos Seaworth, a lowborn smuggler. Davos saved Stannis' and his people during the Siege of Storm's End, and Stannis subsequently raised Davos to nobility and [[TheConsigliere made him his right hand man.]] In truth, Davos is the OnlyFriend Stannis has. Since neither are well-loved by their peers, they are each other's strongest supporters.
** Orys, the first Baratheon, was Aegon the Conqueror's OnlyFriend and most trusted man. It was even rumored that they were half-brothers.
23rd Dec '16 11:24:52 AM RoyFlowers
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* AntiHero: : Robert, Stannis, and Renly, each to varying degrees and with different results.

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* AntiHero: : Robert, Stannis, and Renly, each to varying degrees and with different results.



* FallenHero: The house's founder, Orys Baratheon, went from a HeroicBastard and KnightInShiningArmor to a [[HandicappedBadass crippled,]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters revenge-obsessed madman]] who kept severed hands and feet as trophies. The same happened to Robert, going from WorldsStrongestMan to AdiposeRex in just a few years. [[spoiler: Stannis seems to be heading down the same road too.]]

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* FallenHero: The house's founder, Orys Baratheon, went from a HeroicBastard and KnightInShiningArmor to a [[HandicappedBadass crippled,]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters revenge-obsessed madman]] who kept severed hands and feet as trophies. The same happened to Robert, going from WorldsStrongestMan incredible MagneticHero to ineffectual AdiposeRex in just a few years. [[spoiler: Stannis seems to be heading down the same road too.]]
23rd Dec '16 11:21:42 AM RoyFlowers
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* AlwaysSecondBest: The founder of House Baratheon was TheLancer to Aegon the Conqueror, so the Baratheons played second fiddle to the Targaryens for many years. When they eventually become the new overlords after Robert's Rebellion, it isn't long before they are being undermined by their [[TokenEvilTeammate more cunning allies]], the Lannisters, who are even more ruthlessly determined to succeed House Targaryen.

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* AlwaysSecondBest: The founder of House Baratheon was TheLancer to Aegon the Conqueror, so the Baratheons played second fiddle to lived in the shadow of the Targaryens for many years. When they eventually become the new overlords after Robert's Rebellion, it isn't long before they are being undermined by their [[TokenEvilTeammate more cunning allies]], the Lannisters, who are even more ruthlessly determined to succeed House Targaryen.Targaryen.
* AntiHero: : Robert, Stannis, and Renly, each to varying degrees and with different results.



* BloodKnight: The Baratheons are known for producing great warriors and generals and for their belligerence.

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* BirdsOfAFeather: With the Starks and Targaryens, in that the Baratheons also serve as grim deconstructions of traditional fantasy heroes.
* BloodKnight: The Baratheons are known for their belligerence, and for producing great warriors and generals and for their belligerence.generals.



* ByronicHero: Robert, Stannis, and Renly, each to varying degrees and with different results.


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* FallenHero: The house's founder, Orys Baratheon, went from a HeroicBastard and KnightInShiningArmor to a [[HandicappedBadass crippled,]] [[HeWhoFightsMonsters revenge-obsessed madman]] who kept severed hands and feet as trophies. The same happened to Robert, going from WorldsStrongestMan to AdiposeRex in just a few years. [[spoiler: Stannis seems to be heading down the same road too.]]
14th Dec '16 11:55:15 PM Euodiachloris
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%%* {{Jerkass}}

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%%* {{Jerkass}}* {{Jerkass}}: Comes across as having been rather a pain in the rear, actually. [[EveryoneHasStandards If one with standards.]]
7th Dec '16 3:01:41 AM MrThorfan64
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** However the fact Renly was plotting to displace Cersei with Margaery, which wouldn't make sense unless Cersei's children could be removed from the line of succession, implies he was aware of the incest... which just makes him more of a hypocrite.



* CainAndAbel: Renly and his older brother Stannis are mortal enemies, though neither one is truly "good" or "evil". However Renly happily talks about killing his brother and shows no remorse at this. [[spoiler:After his death Stannis is clearly upset, and it is ambiguous how much Stannis knew of his role in Renly's death.]]

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* CainAndAbel: Renly and his older brother Stannis are mortal enemies, though neither one is truly "good" or "evil". However Renly happily talks about killing his brother and shows no remorse at this.this, along with his desire to usurp the throne out of greed and vanity. [[spoiler:After his death Stannis is clearly upset, and it is ambiguous how much Stannis knew of his role in Renly's death.]]



* {{Foil}}: To Daemon Blackfyre. Both charismatic figures who are backed to usurp the throne despite incredibly weak claims (in Daemon's case, being a bastard, in Renly's being the youngest brother), both make enemies of their own blood in doing so, [[spoiler: both ultimately killed by said blood in a fairly underhanded manner, [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade and both considered good kings who never were by their supporters.]]]] Daemon however, was considered an excellent warrior and an otherwise genuine KnightInShiningArmor despite his Rebellion, while Renly likely never fought for real outside of jousts and the like, and was a smarmy {{Jerkass}} in private. [[spoiler: And while Bloodraven utterly loathed the Blackfyres and had zero regrets putting them in the ground, Stannis ends up regretting Renly's demise, and is haunted by whatever culpability he had in his assanination.]]

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* {{Foil}}: To Daemon Blackfyre. Both charismatic figures who are backed to usurp the throne despite incredibly weak claims (in Daemon's case, being a bastard, bastard and though legitimized still younger then his trueborn brother, in Renly's being the youngest brother), both make enemies of their own blood in doing so, [[spoiler: both ultimately killed by said blood in a fairly underhanded manner, [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade and both considered good kings who never were by their supporters.]]]] Daemon however, was considered an excellent warrior and an otherwise genuine KnightInShiningArmor despite his Rebellion, while Renly likely never fought for real outside of jousts and the like, and was a smarmy {{Jerkass}} in private. [[spoiler: And while Bloodraven utterly loathed the Blackfyres and had zero regrets putting them in the ground, Stannis ends up regretting Renly's demise, and is haunted by whatever culpability he had in his assanination.assassination.]]



* {{Hypocrite}}: He thinks he'd be a kind and good King, even though he was starving hundreds of thousands of people into submission.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: He thinks he'd be a kind and good King, even though he was starving hundreds of thousands of people into submission. He also calls Stannis a usurper and says they're just the same, even though he possibly knew the incest before Ned. Renly also acts as if he's becoming King out of the people's desire... then when Catelyn suggests a Great Council Renly sneers it down.



* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: Robert is based on Edward IV, Stannis on UsefulNotes/RichardIII with Renly as the analogue to George, Duke of Clarence, a resentful, spoiled brother overshadowed and resentful of the prestige and reputation of his brothers, and finally rising in rebellion against the family by marrying into an enemy house, and who is wrongfully lionized as a hero by the new regime.

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* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: Robert is based on Edward IV, Stannis on UsefulNotes/RichardIII with Renly as the analogue to George, Duke of Clarence, a resentful, spoiled brother overshadowed and resentful of the prestige and reputation of his brothers, and finally rising in rebellion against the family by marrying into an enemy house, killed by his brother for his treachery, and who is wrongfully lionized as a hero by the new regime.
5th Dec '16 1:27:10 PM RobTan
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* {{Expy}}: If Aegon is William the Conqueror, then Orys is his Robert, Count of Mortain, who was William's right-hand man and half-brother who was gifted with significant lands in south-west England after the Norman conquest. Ironically, while Orys is rumored to be Aegon's bastard brother, in reality, Robert was trueborn while William was illegitimate [[note:*]]Their mother was a commoner who was first William's father's mistress, and was married off to Robert's father after William was born[[\note]].

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* {{Expy}}: If Aegon is William the Conqueror, then Orys is his [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert,_Count_of_Mortain Robert, Count of Mortain, who was William's right-hand man and half-brother who was gifted with significant lands in south-west England after the Norman conquest. Ironically, while Orys is rumored to be Aegon's bastard brother, in reality, Robert was trueborn while William was illegitimate [[note:*]]Their mother was a commoner who was first William's father's mistress, and was married off to Robert's father after William was born[[\note]].Mortain]].
5th Dec '16 1:24:50 PM RobTan
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* {{Expy}}: If Aegon is William the Conqueror, then Orys is his Robert, Count of Mortain, who was William's right-hand man and half-brother who was gifted with significant lands in south-west England after the Norman conquest. Ironically, while Orys is rumored to be Aegon's bastard brother, in reality, Robert was trueborn while William was illegitimate [[note:*]]Their mother was a commoner who was first William's father's mistress, and was married off to Robert's father after William was born[[\note]].
3rd Dec '16 5:24:08 AM RobTan
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* OnlyFriend: Aegon was notoriously solotary and intoverted in life, Orys was his only confidant and companion besides his sister-wives.

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* OnlyFriend: Aegon was notoriously solotary solitary and intoverted in life, Orys was his only confidant and companion besides his sister-wives.
3rd Dec '16 5:22:06 AM RobTan
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* OnlyFriend: Aegon was notoriously solotary and intoverted in life, Orys was his only confidant and companion besides his sister-wives.
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