History CharacterDerailment / Film

25th Sep '17 12:27:04 PM Isaac_Heller
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* Mary Jane Watson in ''[[Film/SpiderMan2 Spider-Man 2]]''. In ''Spider-Man'', she was fairly similar to her comic self; save for being [[{{Chickification}} less independent, her insecurities played up, and essentially a Damsel In Distress]], she retained MJ's signature flirty exterior, essentially what MJ would have been like in High School. In the sequel, however, [[TookALevelInJerkAss MJ loses her ability to]] [[NoSympathy empathize with Peter's troubles]], lashes out at him when he tries and fails to reconnect with her, then [[RunawayBride leaves her fiance at the alter when she finds out Peter is Spider-Man]], [[JerkAss with only a note saying goodbye]]. She gets a little better in ''3'', but is still fairly selfish and quick to lash out. This did ''not'' go over well with her fans, to say the least, and is one of the most cited problems with the Raimi films.

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* Mary Jane Watson in ''[[Film/SpiderMan2 Spider-Man 2]]''. In ''Spider-Man'', she was fairly similar to her comic self; save for being [[{{Chickification}} less independent, her insecurities played up, and essentially a Damsel In Distress]], she retained MJ's signature flirty exterior, essentially what MJ would have been like in High School. In the sequel, however, [[TookALevelInJerkAss MJ loses her ability to]] [[NoSympathy empathize with Peter's troubles]], lashes out at him when he tries and fails to reconnect with her, then [[RunawayBride leaves her fiance at the alter when she finds out Peter is Spider-Man]], [[JerkAss with only a note saying goodbye]]. She gets a little better in ''3'', but is still fairly selfish and quick to lash out. out although [[IdiotPlot she was FAR from alone from being that way in that movie]]. This did ''not'' go over well with her fans, to say the least, and is one of the most cited problems with the Raimi films.least.
17th Sep '17 11:29:47 PM Loekman3
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* Mary Jane Watson in ''[[Film/SpiderMan2 Spider-Man 2]]''. In ''Spider-Man'', she was fairly similar to her comic self; save for being [[{{Chickification}} less independent, her insecurities played up, and essentially a Damsel In Distress]], she retained MJ's signature flirty exterior, essentially what MJ would have been like in High School. In the sequel, however, [[TookALevelInJerkAss MJ loses her ability to]] [[NoSympathy empathize with Peter's troubles]], lashes out at him when he tries and fails to reconnect with her, then [[RunawayBride leaves her fiance at the alter when she finds out Peter is Spider-Man]], [[JerkAss with only a note saying goodbye]]. She gets a little better in ''3'', but is still fairly selfish and quick to lash out. This did ''not'' go over well with her fans, to say the least, and is one of the most cited problems with the Raimi films.
1st Aug '17 6:09:16 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Due to {{Sequelitis}}, Belle from ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Belle puts up with the Beast's temper tantrums and becoming his cheerful "life coach" in ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas''. She's [[CanonSue worse]] in ''Belle's Magical World''.

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* Due to {{Sequelitis}}, Belle from ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Belle puts up with the Beast's temper tantrums and becoming his cheerful "life coach" in ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas''. She's [[CanonSue worse]] worse in ''Belle's Magical World''.
27th Jan '17 2:18:51 AM LinTaylor
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* The entirety of "Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai" is one long Character Derailment of the Showa kamen Riders (ichigo through J), as their actions in that film are not only hypocritical, but vastly out-of-character for individuals who condemn their juniors for events they themselves have gone through and struggled to move past. Specifically lingering connections to the dead through their memories of them, as EVERY PROTAGONIST KAMEN RIDER has lost someone significant to them. It gets so bad in the movie, the legacy heroes of the franchise act little better than the monsters they charge themselves with facing.
** This is because the writer of the Taisen films knows little to nothing about characters he himself did not create, has been cited as doing this as Far back as Post Staff change "Series/KamenRiderHibiki", and does it in pretty much every film for this franchise he has written.

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* ''Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai'' is an infamous example among {{Toku}} fans. Unlike most "Versus" movies, this isn't a fake-out; the Showa Riders have a major quarrel with their juniors, attacking them while [[Film/KamenRiderZX Badan]] raises a literal ArmyOfTheDead. And even after Badan is defeated, they ''still'' insist on fighting the Heisei Riders. What's their beef with the younger heroes, you may ask? The entirety of "Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai" is one long Character fact that they remember and honor their deceased friends. Ignoring the fact that this makes the Showa Riders look heartless[[note]]or how it makes them look stupid; the Heisei Riders' attachments to their dead friends helped Badan bring back dead enemies, but they didn't bother explaining this until ''after'' Badan was defeated, instead jumping straight into attacking the Heisei Riders[[/note]], it completely ignores the fact that practicallu '''EVERY''' Kamen Rider has lost a friend or family member somewhere along the line (creator Creator/ShotaroIshinomori envisioned them as "[[HurtingHero crying heroes]]"). The Derailment actually bothered Creator/HiroshiFujioka (the star of the original ''Series/KamenRider'', who returned in ''Heisei vs. Showa'') so much that he ended up co-writing [[Film/KamenRider1 his own movie]] to do justice to his character.
** Original solicitations for the film suggested that there was a different conflict:
the Showa kamen Riders (ichigo through J), prioritized defeating evil, while the Heisei Riders prioritized protecting the innocent, as seen with their actions in that film are not only hypocritical, but vastly out-of-character for individuals who condemn their juniors for events they themselves have gone through and struggled to move past. Specifically lingering connections helping a young boy say goodbye to the spirit of his dead through their memories of them, mother. While this is still Derailment (since Kamen Riders are all about protecting humanity's peace and freedom), it's not nearly as EVERY PROTAGONIST KAMEN RIDER has lost someone significant to them. It gets so bad as what we got in the movie, the legacy heroes of the franchise act little better than the monsters they charge themselves with facing.
** This is because the writer of the Taisen films knows little to nothing about characters he himself did not create, has been cited as doing this as Far back as Post Staff change "Series/KamenRiderHibiki", and does it in pretty much every film for this franchise he has written.
final movie.
9th Oct '16 10:53:32 AM erforce
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* Norrington in the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies. In the first one, he is Will's rival for Elizabeth's affections and, as a naval officer, hates pirates and is [[InspectorJavert out to get Will and Jack]]. But he's far from a bad guy, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy takes it gracefully]] when Elizabeth chooses Will over him, and gives Jack a MercyLead at the end. When he comes back in the second movie, suddenly he's a bitter drunk with a grudge against Will for getting the girl and Jack for escaping and ruining his career, and he becomes a pirate himself. The third movie tries to reconcile these two portrayals and treats him a bit better, but [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath and he gets killed off rather abruptly]].

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* Norrington in the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movies. In the [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl first one, one]], he is Will's rival for Elizabeth's affections and, as a naval officer, hates pirates and is [[InspectorJavert out to get Will and Jack]]. But he's far from a bad guy, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy takes it gracefully]] when Elizabeth chooses Will over him, and gives Jack a MercyLead at the end. When he comes back in the [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest second movie, movie]], suddenly he's a bitter drunk with a grudge against Will for getting the girl and Jack for escaping and ruining his career, and he becomes a pirate himself. The [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd third movie movie]] tries to reconcile these two portrayals and treats him a bit better, but [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath and he gets killed off rather abruptly]].



* Michael Corleone. Compare this character between part III of Film/TheGodfather and the rest of the series. In the first two parts he was a dead-serious and moody fellow. In the final sequel he's got cute quirks and snarks.

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* Michael Corleone. Compare this character between part III of Film/TheGodfather ''Film/TheGodfatherPartIII'' and the rest of the series. In the first two parts he was a dead-serious and moody fellow. In the final sequel he's got cute quirks and snarks.
25th Aug '16 6:25:37 PM TheNewBig
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* We all know Michael Myers, right? Iconic soulless killing machine who can't be intimated, bargained with, reasoned with, or stopped, and who's only explicit motive was to ''kill'' his family? Enter the director's cut of "The Curse of Michael Myers where he rapes and impregnates his niece on someone else's orders.

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* We all know Michael Myers, right? Iconic soulless killing machine who can't be intimated, intimidated, bargained with, reasoned with, or stopped, and who's only explicit motive was to ''kill'' his family? Enter the director's cut of "The Curse of Michael Myers where he rapes and impregnates his niece on someone else's orders.
30th Jul '16 12:45:36 PM TheNewBig
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* We all know Michael Myers, right? Iconic soulless killing machine who can't be intimated, bargained with, reasoned with, or stopped, and who's only explicit motive was to ''kill'' his family? Enter the director's cut of "The Curse of Michael Myers where he rapes and impregnates his niece on someone else's orders.
14th Jun '16 4:38:02 PM rjd1922
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* ''Disney/MulanII'' derails several characters: in addition to giving Mushu AesopAmnesia and making him a bigger jerk, Mulan and Shang start arguing using sex stereotypes as insults, and Chien Po goes from a GentleGiant who [[BigEater loves to eat]] to a flat FatComicRelief character who is ObsessedWithFood (and engages in pointless brawls, something he pointedly did ''not'' do in the first movie). But the character who got it worst was Ling, whose personality got traded in for... wanting someone to laugh at his terrible jokes. This becomes his motivation despite not even being hinted at in the first movie.

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* ''Disney/MulanII'' derails several characters: in addition to giving Mushu AesopAmnesia and [[TookALevelInJerkass making him a bigger jerk, jerk]], Mulan and Shang start arguing using sex stereotypes as insults, and Chien Po goes from a GentleGiant who [[BigEater loves to eat]] to a flat FatComicRelief character who is ObsessedWithFood (and engages in pointless brawls, something he pointedly did ''not'' do in the first movie). But the character who got it worst was Ling, whose personality got traded in for... wanting someone to laugh at his terrible jokes. This becomes his motivation despite not even being hinted at in the first movie.
5th May '16 1:44:19 PM Kid
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* ''Disney/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld'' derails many characters as well. Pocahontas herself became cold and distant, John Smith was changed into a wise-cracking self-absorbed JerkAss, Meeko fell victim to AesopAmnesia (especially in regards to his friendship with Percy) and Radcliffe became a KarmaHoudini whose evilness went UptoEleven.

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* ''Disney/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld'' derails many characters as well. Pocahontas herself became cold and distant, John Smith was changed into a wise-cracking self-absorbed JerkAss, Meeko fell victim to AesopAmnesia (especially in regards to his friendship with Percy) and Radcliffe became a KarmaHoudini whose evilness went UptoEleven.UpToEleven.
23rd Oct '15 4:16:18 PM ShinteTenshi
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*The entirety of "Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai" is one long Character Derailment of the Showa kamen Riders (ichigo through J), as their actions in that film are not only hypocritical, but vastly out-of-character for individuals who condemn their juniors for events they themselves have gone through and struggled to move past. Specifically lingering connections to the dead through their memories of them, as EVERY PROTAGONIST KAMEN RIDER has lost someone significant to them. It gets so bad in the movie, the legacy heroes of the franchise act little better than the monsters they charge themselves with facing.
**This is because the writer of the Taisen films knows little to nothing about characters he himself did not create, has been cited as doing this as Far back as Post Staff change "Series/KamenRiderHibiki", and does it in pretty much every film for this franchise he has written.
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