History CharacterDerailment / Film

25th Aug '16 6:25:37 PM TheNewBig
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* We all know Michael Myers, right? Iconic soulless killing machine who can't be intimated, bargained with, reasoned with, or stopped, and who's only explicit motive was to ''kill'' his family? Enter the director's cut of "The Curse of Michael Myers where he rapes and impregnates his niece on someone else's orders.

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* We all know Michael Myers, right? Iconic soulless killing machine who can't be intimated, intimidated, bargained with, reasoned with, or stopped, and who's only explicit motive was to ''kill'' his family? Enter the director's cut of "The Curse of Michael Myers where he rapes and impregnates his niece on someone else's orders.
30th Jul '16 12:45:36 PM TheNewBig
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* We all know Michael Myers, right? Iconic soulless killing machine who can't be intimated, bargained with, reasoned with, or stopped, and who's only explicit motive was to ''kill'' his family? Enter the director's cut of "The Curse of Michael Myers where he rapes and impregnates his niece on someone else's orders.
14th Jun '16 4:38:02 PM rjd1922
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* ''Disney/MulanII'' derails several characters: in addition to giving Mushu AesopAmnesia and making him a bigger jerk, Mulan and Shang start arguing using sex stereotypes as insults, and Chien Po goes from a GentleGiant who [[BigEater loves to eat]] to a flat FatComicRelief character who is ObsessedWithFood (and engages in pointless brawls, something he pointedly did ''not'' do in the first movie). But the character who got it worst was Ling, whose personality got traded in for... wanting someone to laugh at his terrible jokes. This becomes his motivation despite not even being hinted at in the first movie.

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* ''Disney/MulanII'' derails several characters: in addition to giving Mushu AesopAmnesia and [[TookALevelInJerkass making him a bigger jerk, jerk]], Mulan and Shang start arguing using sex stereotypes as insults, and Chien Po goes from a GentleGiant who [[BigEater loves to eat]] to a flat FatComicRelief character who is ObsessedWithFood (and engages in pointless brawls, something he pointedly did ''not'' do in the first movie). But the character who got it worst was Ling, whose personality got traded in for... wanting someone to laugh at his terrible jokes. This becomes his motivation despite not even being hinted at in the first movie.
5th May '16 1:44:19 PM Kid
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* ''Disney/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld'' derails many characters as well. Pocahontas herself became cold and distant, John Smith was changed into a wise-cracking self-absorbed JerkAss, Meeko fell victim to AesopAmnesia (especially in regards to his friendship with Percy) and Radcliffe became a KarmaHoudini whose evilness went UptoEleven.

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* ''Disney/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld'' derails many characters as well. Pocahontas herself became cold and distant, John Smith was changed into a wise-cracking self-absorbed JerkAss, Meeko fell victim to AesopAmnesia (especially in regards to his friendship with Percy) and Radcliffe became a KarmaHoudini whose evilness went UptoEleven.UpToEleven.
23rd Oct '15 4:16:18 PM ShinteTenshi
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*The entirety of "Film/HeiseiRiderVsShowaRiderKamenRiderWarsFeaturingSuperSentai" is one long Character Derailment of the Showa kamen Riders (ichigo through J), as their actions in that film are not only hypocritical, but vastly out-of-character for individuals who condemn their juniors for events they themselves have gone through and struggled to move past. Specifically lingering connections to the dead through their memories of them, as EVERY PROTAGONIST KAMEN RIDER has lost someone significant to them. It gets so bad in the movie, the legacy heroes of the franchise act little better than the monsters they charge themselves with facing.
**This is because the writer of the Taisen films knows little to nothing about characters he himself did not create, has been cited as doing this as Far back as Post Staff change "Series/KamenRiderHibiki", and does it in pretty much every film for this franchise he has written.
4th Sep '15 3:15:52 PM ironballs16
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* In ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'', [[GentleGiant The Rock Biter]] is a mostly serious character, who has some tragic moments ("They seem like big, strong hands, didn't they?"). In the sequel, they give him a child. In [[{{Sequelitis}} the third]], Rockbiter (now [[InNameOnly even referred as "Rockchewer"]] at one point) is a doofus [[WTHCostumingDepartment wearing a rock wifebeater]], with sitcom-like scenes with his full family, and having [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp7aOzkAWr4 a terrible, off-key musical number]].
** Unfortunately, Falcor also got this treatment in the third movie. He was a wise, gentle creature that would gladly lend a helping hand, but in this one, he's the dragon equivalent of Franchise/ScoobyDoo.

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* In ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'', [[GentleGiant The Rock Biter]] is a mostly serious character, who has some tragic moments ("They ("[[DespairEventHorizon They seem like big, strong hands, didn't they?").they?]]"). In the sequel, they give him a child. In [[{{Sequelitis}} the third]], Rockbiter (now [[InNameOnly even referred as "Rockchewer"]] at one point) is a doofus [[WTHCostumingDepartment wearing a rock wifebeater]], with sitcom-like scenes with his full family, and having [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp7aOzkAWr4 a terrible, off-key musical number]].
** Unfortunately, Falcor also got this treatment in the third movie. He was initially a wise, gentle creature that would gladly lend a helping hand, but in this one, he's the dragon equivalent of Franchise/ScoobyDoo.
15th Aug '15 4:06:32 AM Silverblade2
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* Considering all of its faults, many agree that one of the greater atrocities committed by ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH 2'' was entirely derailing the character of Brutus; changing him from a white-eyed, [[TheVoiceless silent]], [[RuleOfCool spike-wielding gatekeeper]] into...a blundering, idiotic side-kick to the also-somewhat-derailed Justin.
** It should be noted that the original book ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH'' did actually reveal Brutus to be a pleasant guy just playing the shadowy guard act to scare away intruders. Similar to the Aunt Shrew example, it is more the fault of both films for not elaborating on this enough.
** Martin got tortured into becoming inexplicably evil, complete with a [[LargeHam hammy British accent]] performed by Eric Idle (though due to the [[SoBadItsGood hilariously ridiculous lengths this is taken]], some see it as positive derailment).
** Or Auntie Shrew scolding Martin for badmouthing Nicodemous and insisting that he was a great oracle or something - despite the fact that she clearly was shown in the first movie distrusting the rats (though it's possible she thought better of them after they helped the Brisby family, there really isn't any mention of this).
2nd Jul '15 3:29:21 AM TellAll111
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* ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' manages to derail a character within one film. When Korso [[spoiler: is revealed to be a Drej agent]], the charismatic and competent captain of the Valkyrie is replaced with a bullheaded brute who makes rash decisions and is outwardly antagonistic towards Gune and Stith. Even when he [[spoiler: makes a HeelFaceTurn]], it's still such a drastic change in character that you wonder why Gune and Stith hadn't cottoned on sooner.
18th May '15 5:19:20 AM erforce
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* Dr. Lawrence Gordon's long-awaited return in [[{{Saw}} Saw 3D]] counts as this. This is considering the last time we saw him (in part 1), Lawrence was crawling away from his bathroom-prison, shivering from the blood-loss incurred from cutting off his foot and promising he'd find help for the still-shackled guy being tested with him (this is after he believes his family may well have been shot and killed due to his inaction in the "test"). [[spoiler:In Saw 3D, he is a willing accomplice to [[TheChessmaster John "Jigsaw" Kramer]]. In the first scene we see Dr. Gordon in during the present-timeline, he is delivering a cheesily villanous sounding monologue to the protagonist of the film, his smirking henchman demeanor majorly contrasting with the distrought husband/father he had become throughout the first film. Whatever real change occurred apparently happened completely offscreen, and what's more, apparently happened in the span of about 2 months, as we see Dr. Gordon smiling whilst placing a key behind a trap-victim-to-be's eye during a flashback that slightly predated part 2. At no point in Saw 3D does he mention his family or the guy he left behind, and ends up only looking at the latter's corpse rather dully during the climax when he returns to the bathroom.]]
** An even better example is Jigsaw himself. Jigsaw made a huge point that he never killed anyone, merely put them in position where they had to fight and occasionally compete to live. Then in [[{{Saw}} Saw VI]] he suddenly was fine with using Hoffman's traps, which ''did'' kill people outright.

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Dr. Lawrence Gordon's long-awaited return in [[{{Saw}} Saw 3D]] the series counts as this. This is considering the last time we saw him (in [[Film/SawI part 1), 1]]), Lawrence was crawling away from his bathroom-prison, shivering from the blood-loss incurred from cutting off his foot and promising he'd find help for the still-shackled guy being tested with him (this is after he believes his family may well have been shot and killed due to his inaction in the "test"). [[spoiler:In Saw 3D, ''Film/Saw3D'', he is a willing accomplice to [[TheChessmaster John "Jigsaw" Kramer]]. In the first scene we see Dr. Gordon in during the present-timeline, he is delivering a cheesily villanous sounding monologue to the protagonist of the film, his smirking henchman demeanor majorly contrasting with the distrought husband/father he had become throughout the first film. Whatever real change occurred apparently happened completely offscreen, and what's more, apparently happened in the span of about 2 two months, as we see Dr. Gordon smiling whilst placing a key behind a trap-victim-to-be's eye during a flashback that slightly predated [[Film/SawII part 2. 2]]. At no point in Saw 3D ''Film/Saw3D'' does he mention his family or the guy he left behind, and ends up only looking at the latter's corpse rather dully during the climax when he returns to the bathroom.]]
** An even better example is Jigsaw himself. Jigsaw made a huge point that he never killed anyone, merely put them in position where they had to fight and occasionally compete to live. Then in [[{{Saw}} Saw VI]] ''Film/SawVI'' he suddenly was fine with using Hoffman's traps, which ''did'' kill people outright.



* Purposely done in the case of Susan Orleans in ''{{Adaptation}}''. Portrayed as simply a reporter who develops a bond with John Laroche, due to Charlie Kaufman's in-story CreatorBreakdown she proceeds to become a psychotic drug-addict who regrets her life.

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* Purposely done in the case of Susan Orleans in ''{{Adaptation}}''.''Film/{{Adaptation}}''. Portrayed as simply a reporter who develops a bond with John Laroche, due to Charlie Kaufman's in-story CreatorBreakdown she proceeds to become a psychotic drug-addict who regrets her life.
8th May '15 9:02:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}} II'' derails several characters: in addition to giving Mushu AesopAmnesia and making him a bigger jerk, Mulan and Shang start arguing using sex stereotypes as insults, and Chien Po goes from a GentleGiant who [[BigEater loves to eat]] to a flat FatComicRelief character who is ObsessedWithFood (and engages in pointless brawls, something he pointedly did ''not'' do in the first movie). But the character who got it worst was Ling, whose personality got traded in for... wanting someone to laugh at his terrible jokes. This becomes his motivation despite not even being hinted at in the first movie.
* ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}} II'' derails many characters as well. Pocahontas herself became cold and distant, John Smith was changed into a wise-cracking self-absorbed JerkAss, Meeko fell victim to AesopAmnesia (especially in regards to his friendship with Percy) and Racliffe became a KarmaHoudini whose evilness went UptoEleven.
* Due to {{Sequelitis}}, Belle from Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast. Belle puts up with the Beast's temper tantrums and becoming his cheerful "life coach" in Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas. She's [[CanonSue worse]] in ''Belle's Magical World''.
* Disney/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea, which is very ironic, considering the title character becomes a parent! The first movie shows Ariel as being curious, open-minded, brave, and impulsive. The sequel gave Ariel a horrible case of AesopAmnesia, causing her to make the exact same mistakes with Melody that Triton did with her. And that's not even counting the [[WhatAnIdiot very stupid decision]] to keep Melody's heritage and background a secret from her, arguably giving her better reasons to be defiant than Ariel, who at least knew why her father had the rules he did.

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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}} II'' ''Disney/MulanII'' derails several characters: in addition to giving Mushu AesopAmnesia and making him a bigger jerk, Mulan and Shang start arguing using sex stereotypes as insults, and Chien Po goes from a GentleGiant who [[BigEater loves to eat]] to a flat FatComicRelief character who is ObsessedWithFood (and engages in pointless brawls, something he pointedly did ''not'' do in the first movie). But the character who got it worst was Ling, whose personality got traded in for... wanting someone to laugh at his terrible jokes. This becomes his motivation despite not even being hinted at in the first movie.
* ''Disney/{{Pocahontas}} II'' ''Disney/PocahontasIIJourneyToANewWorld'' derails many characters as well. Pocahontas herself became cold and distant, John Smith was changed into a wise-cracking self-absorbed JerkAss, Meeko fell victim to AesopAmnesia (especially in regards to his friendship with Percy) and Racliffe Radcliffe became a KarmaHoudini whose evilness went UptoEleven.
* Due to {{Sequelitis}}, Belle from Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast. ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''. Belle puts up with the Beast's temper tantrums and becoming his cheerful "life coach" in Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas.''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeastTheEnchantedChristmas''. She's [[CanonSue worse]] in ''Belle's Magical World''.
* Disney/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea, ''Disney/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea'', which is very ironic, considering the title character becomes a parent! The first movie shows Ariel as being curious, open-minded, brave, and impulsive. The sequel gave Ariel a horrible case of AesopAmnesia, causing her to make the exact same mistakes with Melody that Triton did with her. And that's not even counting the [[WhatAnIdiot very stupid decision]] to keep Melody's heritage and background a secret from her, arguably giving her better reasons to be defiant than Ariel, who at least knew why her father had the rules he did.
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