History CharacterDerailment / ComicBooks

21st May '17 3:06:07 PM Forenperser
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** Fraction also has a pretty obvious personal dislike for ComicBook/DoctorDoom. During ''ComicBook/{{FF}}'', he pulled no punches on this dislike, having him beaten by Scott Lang, who not only leaves his property in ruins, but who also reveals him as just an amateur magician and a self-mutilator, calls every redeeming quality Doom ever had a straight-up lie (and compares him to several real-life dictators in the process) and beats him black and blue with help of the Pym Particles.
20th Feb '17 9:37:25 PM Anddrix
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* ''{{Micronauts}}'': All of the Micronaut characters have suffered from inconsistent characterization since their reppearances in ComicBook/{{Cable}} during the 1990s. In that first reappearance, Mari fared the worst. In the original Micronauts, she was depicted as an intelligent, verbose, and independent woman. In Cable, she was given a butch masculine appearance and rarely spoke. In ''Realm of Kings: Son of Hulk'', she grew back her locks and started acting like an airheaded, motormouth amazon who has spent too much time on Earth.

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* ''{{Micronauts}}'': ''ComicBook/{{Micronauts}}'': All of the Micronaut characters have suffered from inconsistent characterization since their reppearances in ComicBook/{{Cable}} during the 1990s. In that first reappearance, Mari fared the worst. In the original Micronauts, she was depicted as an intelligent, verbose, and independent woman. In Cable, she was given a butch masculine appearance and rarely spoke. In ''Realm of Kings: Son of Hulk'', she grew back her locks and started acting like an airheaded, motormouth amazon who has spent too much time on Earth.
26th Jan '17 9:58:55 AM Wyldchyld
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* Creator/MattFraction has done this several times. Maria Hill from BadassNormal ActionGirl turned into TheChick for ComicBook/IronMan? Check. Weapon Omega, guy who was always afraid of using his powers and never wanted to hurt anybody, becoming a psycho who likes killing people? Check. Ares, master strategist and badass god of war turned into [[TheBrute stupid brute]] who says only ''Aye''? Check. Pixie drained of all her character and transformed into FetishFuelStationAttendant for all loli fans? Check. Emma Frost [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into FlatCharacter who is only defined by calling people "darling" (and there is an already large group considering her being derailed in at last five different ways. Fraction's version don't match any portrayal of her)? Do a number of fans think Matt Fraction just doesn't understand the characters he's working with? Hell yeah. He managed [[http://soft-ie.tumblr.com/post/3118870224 to screw up Tony Stark's characterization and entire history in one issue]], ''including things established by Fraction himself''.

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* Creator/MattFraction has done this several times. Maria Hill from BadassNormal ActionGirl turned into TheChick for ComicBook/IronMan? Check. Weapon Omega, guy who was always afraid of using his powers and never wanted to hurt anybody, becoming a psycho who likes killing people? Check. Ares, master strategist and badass god of war turned into [[TheBrute stupid brute]] who says only ''Aye''? Check. Pixie drained of all her character and transformed into FetishFuelStationAttendant a fetish for all loli fans? Check. Emma Frost [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into FlatCharacter who is only defined by calling people "darling" (and there is an already large group considering her being derailed in at last five different ways. Fraction's version don't match any portrayal of her)? Do a number of fans think Matt Fraction just doesn't understand the characters he's working with? Hell yeah. He managed [[http://soft-ie.tumblr.com/post/3118870224 to screw up Tony Stark's characterization and entire history in one issue]], ''including things established by Fraction himself''.
8th Jan '17 1:22:06 PM nombretomado
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** If one considers Mark Millar's other major work involving the Hulk, TheUltimates, also cast the Hulk that way, and that continuity was specifically created to show case "new interpretations" of the characters, i.e., the writer's interpretations, one gets the impression that Millar isn't a Hulk fan.

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** If one considers Mark Millar's other major work involving the Hulk, TheUltimates, ComicBook/TheUltimates, also cast the Hulk that way, and that continuity was specifically created to show case "new interpretations" of the characters, i.e., the writer's interpretations, one gets the impression that Millar isn't a Hulk fan.
3rd Jan '17 10:20:29 AM Cameron178
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* ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' has now done this to Captain Marvel. She went straight to imprisoning people for crimes that they may or not commit and caused some prophecies that she wanted to prevent to come true, all on the word of a new Inhuman precog. Even worse, she still kept going when it was revealed that he wasn't really seeing the future. [[spoiler: In the end, she is seen as a hero even though she pissed off most of her friends and almost killed Iron Man (he's in a coma thanks to his own experiments).]]
16th Dec '16 9:59:33 PM Chabal2
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* ''ComicBook/LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'':
** The final book of ''Century'' features the Antichrist, a child who snaps on learning his true nature, murdering his entire school with magic and then hiding away for several years, shaving his head and scratching out the MarkOfTheBeast with his own fingers, with only the head of his former headmaster (the guy who cooked up the Antichrist plan in the first place) for company, mutating into an misogynistic, eye-covered, lightning-pissing giant. Not ''quite'' the [[spoiler:Literature/HarryPotter]] we know, is he?
** For that matter, we're introduced to a jovial guy in 60's London who's not above groping a drugged out woman before [[spoiler:being possessed by Haddo's spirit]]. Again, not really the behavior we've come to expect from [[spoiler:Tom Marvolo Riddle.]]
12th Dec '16 1:33:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, {{Badass}}, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with Dick Grayson (the first Robin) and Tim Drake (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Grant Morrison.

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* This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, {{Badass}}, badass, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with Dick Grayson (the first Robin) and Tim Drake (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Grant Morrison.
21st Oct '16 12:47:44 PM Anicomicgeek
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*** Quite a few of those long-time fans will argue that the real Iron Man has been dead for quite some time; the "Tony Stark" in the Marvel Universe right now is just an amalgam between the lame-ass teenage Tony Stark and the Heroes Reborn Tony Stark. [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2013/02/28/abandoned-love-the-titanic-tale-of-teen-tony-stark-aka-iron-teen/2/ However, officially,]] the Tony Stark who died was indeed resurrected and merged with teen Tony as an ''Avengers'' annual reveals why certain characters were changed by to their pre-''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' incarnations--and Tony is one of them, having unmasked himself to see the classic Tony Stark looking back in a puddle, having the memories of his own life--including his death, and the memories of the heroes' time in the ''Heroes Reborn'' and teen Tony's life--and his own grave being empty with an energy signature coming from it and traces of it in his own body.

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*** Quite a few of those long-time fans will argue that the real Iron Man has been dead for quite some time; the "Tony Stark" in the Marvel Universe right now is just an amalgam between the lame-ass teenage Tony Stark and the Heroes Reborn Tony Stark. [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2013/02/28/abandoned-love-the-titanic-tale-of-teen-tony-stark-aka-iron-teen/2/ However, officially,]] the Tony Stark who died was indeed resurrected and merged with teen Tony as an ''Avengers'' annual reveals why certain characters were changed by back to their pre-''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' incarnations--and Tony is one of them, having unmasked himself to see the classic Tony Stark looking back in a puddle, having the memories of his own life--including his death, and the memories of the heroes' time in the ''Heroes Reborn'' and teen Tony's life--and his own grave being empty with an energy signature coming from it and traces of it in his own body.
21st Oct '16 12:43:42 PM Anicomicgeek
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*** Quite a few of those long-time fans will argue that the real Iron Man has been dead for quite some time; the "Tony Stark" in the Marvel Universe right now is just an amalgam between the lame-ass teenage Tony Stark and the Heroes Reborn Tony Stark.
*** [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2013/02/28/abandoned-love-the-titanic-tale-of-teen-tony-stark-aka-iron-teen/2/ However, officially,]] the Tony Stark who died was indeed resurrected and merged with teen Tony as an ''Avengers'' annual reveals why certain characters were changed by to their pre-''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' incarnations--and Tony is one of them, having unmasked himself to see the classic Tony Stark looking back in a puddle, having the memories of his own life--including his death, and the memories of the heroes' time in the ''Heroes Reborn'' and teen Tony's life--and his own grave being empty with an energy signature coming from it and traces of it in his own body.

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*** Quite a few of those long-time fans will argue that the real Iron Man has been dead for quite some time; the "Tony Stark" in the Marvel Universe right now is just an amalgam between the lame-ass teenage Tony Stark and the Heroes Reborn Tony Stark.
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Stark. [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2013/02/28/abandoned-love-the-titanic-tale-of-teen-tony-stark-aka-iron-teen/2/ However, officially,]] the Tony Stark who died was indeed resurrected and merged with teen Tony as an ''Avengers'' annual reveals why certain characters were changed by to their pre-''ComicBook/TheCrossing'' incarnations--and Tony is one of them, having unmasked himself to see the classic Tony Stark looking back in a puddle, having the memories of his own life--including his death, and the memories of the heroes' time in the ''Heroes Reborn'' and teen Tony's life--and his own grave being empty with an energy signature coming from it and traces of it in his own body.
18th Aug '16 12:27:56 PM RossN
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** The comics also have a rare case of 'positive' derailment. In the show Harmony had the occasional moment of low cunning but she was overwhelmingly depicted as weak willed and airheaded, even in Harmony-centric episodes. In the comics she has inexplicably morphed into a successful and witty public relations mastermind who easily juggles her own celebrity while remaining a leader in the vampire community.
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