History CharacterDerailment / ComicBooks

28th May '16 8:54:12 PM DreamerCynist2
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* Despite few feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler:where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.

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* Despite few feeling people believing that it won't will stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler:where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in from an alternate universe.
28th May '16 8:52:24 PM DreamerCynist2
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* Despite feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler:where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.

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* Despite few feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler:where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.
27th May '16 2:56:27 PM KamenRiderKrypton
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* Despite feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler: where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.

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* Despite feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler: where ([[spoiler:where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.
27th May '16 8:08:08 AM kablammin45
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* Despite feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler: where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.

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* Despite feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler: where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]) along]]]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.
27th May '16 8:06:53 AM kablammin45
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* Despite feeling that it won't stick, the primary reason the plot twist of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica: Steve Rogers'' ([[spoiler: where Steve Rogers, one of Marvel's greatest heroes, reveals that [[EvilAllAlong he has been in league with evil organization HYDRA all along]]) got so much InternetBackdraft was because of the fact that this ShockingSwerve makes all the [[spoiler: Captain America]] stories that happened before HarsherInHindsight, and not only goes against everything [[spoiler: the good Cap]] stands for, but also the very reason he was conceived in the first place. Understandably, the fanbase is hoping that [[spoiler: this Captain America]] is an imposter, a triple agent, BrainwashedAndCrazy, or is in an alternate universe.
18th May '16 5:00:36 AM KlawKalash
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** It's all the worse when you consider that as far back as the episode "I Will Remember You" of Angel, [[spoiler:Angel was willing to sacrifice his happiness with Buffy in order to be able to fight the good fight against evil.]] In the entire Buffverse arc since they, nothing has been seen to contradict this, and suddenly he could [[spoiler: give a flying fuck... literally.]]

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** It's all the worse when you consider that as far back as the episode "I Will Remember You" of Angel, [[spoiler:Angel was willing to sacrifice his happiness with Buffy in order to be able to fight the good fight against evil.]] In the entire Buffverse arc since they, then, nothing has been seen to contradict this, and suddenly he could [[spoiler: give a flying fuck... literally.]]
18th May '16 4:49:24 AM KlawKalash
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%%* The ''ComicBook/AmazonsAttack'' miniseries afflicts Wonder Woman and the entire Amazon people with character derailment by way of IdiotPlot.

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%%* * The ''ComicBook/AmazonsAttack'' miniseries afflicts Wonder Woman and the entire Amazon people with character derailment by way of IdiotPlot.IdiotPlot. The WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall review gives plenty of detail.



* Creator/MattFraction has done this several times. Maria Hill from BadassNormal ActionGirl turned into TheChick for ComicBook/IronMan? Check. Weapon Omega, guy who was always afraid of using his powers and never wanted to hurt anybody, becoming a psycho who likes killing people? Check. Ares, master strategist and badass god of war turned into [[TheBrute stupid brute]] who says only ''Aye''? Check. Pixie drained of all her character and transformed into FetishFuelStationAttendant for all loli fans? Check. Emma Frost [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into FlatCharacter who is only defined by calling people "darling" (and there is already large group considering her being derailed in at last five different ways. Fraction's version don't match any portrayal of her)? Do a number of fans think Matt Fraction just doesn't understand the characters he's working with? Hell yeah. He managed [[http://soft-ie.tumblr.com/post/3118870224 to screw up Tony Stark's characterization and entire history in one issue]], ''including things established by Fraction himself''.

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* Creator/MattFraction has done this several times. Maria Hill from BadassNormal ActionGirl turned into TheChick for ComicBook/IronMan? Check. Weapon Omega, guy who was always afraid of using his powers and never wanted to hurt anybody, becoming a psycho who likes killing people? Check. Ares, master strategist and badass god of war turned into [[TheBrute stupid brute]] who says only ''Aye''? Check. Pixie drained of all her character and transformed into FetishFuelStationAttendant for all loli fans? Check. Emma Frost [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into FlatCharacter who is only defined by calling people "darling" (and there is an already large group considering her being derailed in at last five different ways. Fraction's version don't match any portrayal of her)? Do a number of fans think Matt Fraction just doesn't understand the characters he's working with? Hell yeah. He managed [[http://soft-ie.tumblr.com/post/3118870224 to screw up Tony Stark's characterization and entire history in one issue]], ''including things established by Fraction himself''.
18th May '16 4:32:31 AM KlawKalash
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** The ComicBook/{{Venom}} symbiote being [[DeusExMachina abruptly purged of bloodlust]] in ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' throws thirty years worth of character development out the window - especially the [[{{Yandere}} love-hate relationship]] with Spider-Man that has been central to its characterization all this time - while also negating the EnemyMine[=/=]SuperPoweredEvilSide dynamic it had with Flash and kiboshing any reason for Venom and Toxin to have a throw down. Bendis' reason for this? To pander to a new fans who don't know Venom was ever a monstrous, cannibalistic supervillain and only think of him as a "good guy with a super cool costume that can do amazing things".

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** The ComicBook/{{Venom}} symbiote being [[DeusExMachina abruptly purged of bloodlust]] in ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' throws thirty years worth of character development out the window - especially the [[{{Yandere}} love-hate relationship]] with Spider-Man that has been central to its characterization all this time - while also negating the EnemyMine[=/=]SuperPoweredEvilSide dynamic it had with Flash and kiboshing any reason for Venom and Toxin to have a throw down. Bendis' reason for this? To pander to a new fans who don't know Venom was ever a monstrous, cannibalistic supervillain and only think of him as a "good guy with a super cool costume that can do amazing things".
18th May '16 3:40:28 AM KlawKalash
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*** An issue of ''Justice League Generation Lost'' showed that Max only went off the deep end after Coast City (Along with his mother) was totalled by Mongul.

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*** An issue of ''Justice League Generation Lost'' showed that Max only went off the deep end after Coast City (Along (along with his mother) was totalled by Mongul.
11th Mar '16 12:10:47 PM tsstevens
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** Then we get Kennedy, resident JerkAss. In the series she mellows considerably when Tara is brought up. In one comic she's maybe a little disappointed that Tara is again brought up but is there for Willow. In the motion comics however an extra line is added that's so cold even for her Angelus or Warren should be taking notes from her.

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** Then we get Kennedy, resident JerkAss. In the series she mellows considerably when Tara is brought up. In one comic she's maybe a little disappointed that Tara is again brought up but is there for Willow. In the motion comics however an extra line is added that's so cold even for her Angelus or Warren should be taking notes from her.notes.
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