History CharacterDerailment / ComicBooks

1st Jul '17 7:41:46 PM WillBGood
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* Agatha went from being Gaturro's girlfriend to his unattainable love interest.

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* %%* Agatha went from being Gaturro's girlfriend to his unattainable love interest.
25th Jun '17 3:33:43 PM SkyHavenPath13
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** Wally west at one point is chasing down Deathstroke, who has acquired super speed somehow on Wally's level. When they're stuck in BulletTime, Slade mentions that they're now on an even playing field, and Wally ''runs away''. As in he doesn't even get hit first, he runs away ''at the first sign that he isn't fast enough''. Forgetting that he also forgot about his ability to train speed, Wally has never, ''ever'' been depicted as a DirtyCoward entirely reliant on his superspeed, who flees at the first sign of trouble.
** [=NuWally=] sort of gets a moment too, when his DAddyIssues seemingly encompass his entire character. When Slade is lost in the Speed Force, [=NuWally=] is angry that the Titans and Teen Titans are celebrating, even though they know they can't rescue him and he's more than a bit of an amoral asshole. [=NuWally=] decides to run into the Speed Force to save Slade. That [=NuWally=] is so adamant on this and values Slade's life so much is more than a bit of a stretch, as he made his dislike of his former CoolUncle, Daniel West, very clear once he learned that DAnielw as the villainous Reverse-Flash. And DAniel was ''his uncle'' he admired who killed about five people, while Slade is some random guy he spent an afternoon with who has killed, as he made explicitly clear to [=NuWally=], ''hundreds''. The kid caring about this guy is just... forced.

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** Wally west West at one point is chasing down Deathstroke, who has acquired super speed somehow on Wally's level. When they're stuck in BulletTime, Slade mentions that they're now on an even playing field, and Wally ''runs away''. As in he doesn't even get hit first, he runs away ''at the first sign that he isn't fast enough''. Forgetting that he also forgot about his ability to train drain speed, Wally has never, ''ever'' been depicted as a DirtyCoward entirely reliant on his superspeed, SuperSpeed, who flees at the first sign of trouble.
** [=NuWally=] sort of gets a moment too, when his DAddyIssues DaddyIssues seemingly encompass his entire character. When Slade is lost in the Speed Force, [=NuWally=] is angry that the Titans and Teen Titans are celebrating, even though they know they can't rescue him and he's more than a bit of an amoral asshole. [=NuWally=] decides to run into the Speed Force to save Slade. That [=NuWally=] is so adamant on this and values Slade's life so much is more than a bit of a stretch, as he made his dislike of his former CoolUncle, Daniel West, very clear once he learned that DAnielw as Daniel was the villainous Reverse-Flash. And DAniel Daniel was ''his uncle'' he admired who killed about five people, while Slade is some random guy he spent an afternoon with who has killed, as he made explicitly clear to [=NuWally=], ''hundreds''. The kid caring about this guy is just... forced.
10th Jun '17 3:51:26 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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* ''ComicBook/TheLazarusContract'' has quite a few moments where characters act wildly out of character just to propel the plot forward.
** Dick Grayson is suddenly acting like he did in ''The New Teen Titans'' and being all secretive about some nebulous deal he made with Deathstroke. When it's revealed, we learn that [[spoiler:he agreed to train Rose Wilson and instil some morals in her in exchange for Slade not killing the Teen Titans after Grant Wilson was killed]]. Why this was some deep dark secret he felt he needed to keep from the team is never explained, especially given that he ''hasn't'' acted this secretive for ''years''.
** Damian Wayne chewing out Kid Flash for trusting Deathstroke at one point. Forgiving that it was an accident, Damian of all characters ''knows'' how hard it is to live up to a heroic legacy, and how people just screw up sometimes. While he's arrogant, him [[spoiler: kicking Kid Flash off the Teen Titans]] is pretty extreme.
** Wally west at one point is chasing down Deathstroke, who has acquired super speed somehow on Wally's level. When they're stuck in BulletTime, Slade mentions that they're now on an even playing field, and Wally ''runs away''. As in he doesn't even get hit first, he runs away ''at the first sign that he isn't fast enough''. Forgetting that he also forgot about his ability to train speed, Wally has never, ''ever'' been depicted as a DirtyCoward entirely reliant on his superspeed, who flees at the first sign of trouble.
** [=NuWally=] sort of gets a moment too, when his DAddyIssues seemingly encompass his entire character. When Slade is lost in the Speed Force, [=NuWally=] is angry that the Titans and Teen Titans are celebrating, even though they know they can't rescue him and he's more than a bit of an amoral asshole. [=NuWally=] decides to run into the Speed Force to save Slade. That [=NuWally=] is so adamant on this and values Slade's life so much is more than a bit of a stretch, as he made his dislike of his former CoolUncle, Daniel West, very clear once he learned that DAnielw as the villainous Reverse-Flash. And DAniel was ''his uncle'' he admired who killed about five people, while Slade is some random guy he spent an afternoon with who has killed, as he made explicitly clear to [=NuWally=], ''hundreds''. The kid caring about this guy is just... forced.
9th Jun '17 2:42:25 AM Vampireandthen
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** Hawkeye, a man who divorced from his wife in an argument of whether superheroes killed or not, suddenly becomes willing to try and kill Norman Osborn.

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** Hawkeye, a man who divorced from his wife in an argument of whether superheroes killed or not, suddenly becomes willing to try and kill Norman Osborn. Bendis has admitted to hating Hawkeye, and this would not be the last time he had Hawkeye ignore his no killing rule, only this time, he outright does kill someone. This is a a case of the derailment being 100% intentional.
21st May '17 3:06:07 PM Forenperser
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** Fraction also has a pretty obvious personal dislike for ComicBook/DoctorDoom. During ''ComicBook/{{FF}}'', he pulled no punches on this dislike, having him beaten by Scott Lang, who not only leaves his property in ruins, but who also reveals him as just an amateur magician and a self-mutilator, calls every redeeming quality Doom ever had a straight-up lie (and compares him to several real-life dictators in the process) and beats him black and blue with help of the Pym Particles.
20th Feb '17 9:37:25 PM Anddrix
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* ''{{Micronauts}}'': All of the Micronaut characters have suffered from inconsistent characterization since their reppearances in ComicBook/{{Cable}} during the 1990s. In that first reappearance, Mari fared the worst. In the original Micronauts, she was depicted as an intelligent, verbose, and independent woman. In Cable, she was given a butch masculine appearance and rarely spoke. In ''Realm of Kings: Son of Hulk'', she grew back her locks and started acting like an airheaded, motormouth amazon who has spent too much time on Earth.

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* ''{{Micronauts}}'': ''ComicBook/{{Micronauts}}'': All of the Micronaut characters have suffered from inconsistent characterization since their reppearances in ComicBook/{{Cable}} during the 1990s. In that first reappearance, Mari fared the worst. In the original Micronauts, she was depicted as an intelligent, verbose, and independent woman. In Cable, she was given a butch masculine appearance and rarely spoke. In ''Realm of Kings: Son of Hulk'', she grew back her locks and started acting like an airheaded, motormouth amazon who has spent too much time on Earth.
26th Jan '17 9:58:55 AM Wyldchyld
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* Creator/MattFraction has done this several times. Maria Hill from BadassNormal ActionGirl turned into TheChick for ComicBook/IronMan? Check. Weapon Omega, guy who was always afraid of using his powers and never wanted to hurt anybody, becoming a psycho who likes killing people? Check. Ares, master strategist and badass god of war turned into [[TheBrute stupid brute]] who says only ''Aye''? Check. Pixie drained of all her character and transformed into FetishFuelStationAttendant for all loli fans? Check. Emma Frost [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into FlatCharacter who is only defined by calling people "darling" (and there is an already large group considering her being derailed in at last five different ways. Fraction's version don't match any portrayal of her)? Do a number of fans think Matt Fraction just doesn't understand the characters he's working with? Hell yeah. He managed [[http://soft-ie.tumblr.com/post/3118870224 to screw up Tony Stark's characterization and entire history in one issue]], ''including things established by Fraction himself''.

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* Creator/MattFraction has done this several times. Maria Hill from BadassNormal ActionGirl turned into TheChick for ComicBook/IronMan? Check. Weapon Omega, guy who was always afraid of using his powers and never wanted to hurt anybody, becoming a psycho who likes killing people? Check. Ares, master strategist and badass god of war turned into [[TheBrute stupid brute]] who says only ''Aye''? Check. Pixie drained of all her character and transformed into FetishFuelStationAttendant a fetish for all loli fans? Check. Emma Frost [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into FlatCharacter who is only defined by calling people "darling" (and there is an already large group considering her being derailed in at last five different ways. Fraction's version don't match any portrayal of her)? Do a number of fans think Matt Fraction just doesn't understand the characters he's working with? Hell yeah. He managed [[http://soft-ie.tumblr.com/post/3118870224 to screw up Tony Stark's characterization and entire history in one issue]], ''including things established by Fraction himself''.
8th Jan '17 1:22:06 PM nombretomado
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** If one considers Mark Millar's other major work involving the Hulk, TheUltimates, also cast the Hulk that way, and that continuity was specifically created to show case "new interpretations" of the characters, i.e., the writer's interpretations, one gets the impression that Millar isn't a Hulk fan.

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** If one considers Mark Millar's other major work involving the Hulk, TheUltimates, ComicBook/TheUltimates, also cast the Hulk that way, and that continuity was specifically created to show case "new interpretations" of the characters, i.e., the writer's interpretations, one gets the impression that Millar isn't a Hulk fan.
3rd Jan '17 10:20:29 AM Cameron178
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* ''ComicBook/CivilWarII'' has now done this to Captain Marvel. She went straight to imprisoning people for crimes that they may or not commit and caused some prophecies that she wanted to prevent to come true, all on the word of a new Inhuman precog. Even worse, she still kept going when it was revealed that he wasn't really seeing the future. [[spoiler: In the end, she is seen as a hero even though she pissed off most of her friends and almost killed Iron Man (he's in a coma thanks to his own experiments).]]
16th Dec '16 9:59:33 PM Chabal2
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* ''ComicBook/LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'':
** The final book of ''Century'' features the Antichrist, a child who snaps on learning his true nature, murdering his entire school with magic and then hiding away for several years, shaving his head and scratching out the MarkOfTheBeast with his own fingers, with only the head of his former headmaster (the guy who cooked up the Antichrist plan in the first place) for company, mutating into an misogynistic, eye-covered, lightning-pissing giant. Not ''quite'' the [[spoiler:Literature/HarryPotter]] we know, is he?
** For that matter, we're introduced to a jovial guy in 60's London who's not above groping a drugged out woman before [[spoiler:being possessed by Haddo's spirit]]. Again, not really the behavior we've come to expect from [[spoiler:Tom Marvolo Riddle.]]
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