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* ''Film/Expend4bles'': While one theory was that a surprise cameo would be revealed as the villain, to no one's surprise ultimately, Marsh turns out to be Ocelot and the real BigBad.

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* ''Film/Expend4bles'': While one theory was that a surprise cameo would be revealed as the villain, villain due to Creator/IkoUwais' relative lack of starpower, to no one's surprise ultimately, Marsh Marsh, the [[NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize only big name of the cast not invested in a relevant character]], turns out to be Ocelot and the real BigBad.
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* ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'': As the page quote indicates, the live-action version spends most of its runtime with characters waffling over whether Alice is ''the'' Alice who came to Underland as a child and whether she is ''the'' Alice from a prophecy. She insists she's not in both cases, and Absalom the caterpillar, the one character who seems to know definitively, agrees that she's not. Then at the end, it turns out she just forgot and Absalom's statement was MetaphoricallyTrue (she ''used to be'' the child Alice, and she ''was going to be'' the prophecied Alice, but ''at this very moment,'' she was neither).

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* ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'': As the page quote indicates, the live-action version spends most of its runtime with characters waffling over whether Alice is ''the'' Alice who came to Underland as a child and whether she is ''the'' Alice from a prophecy. She insists she's not in both cases, and Absalom the caterpillar, the one character who seems to know definitively, agrees that she's not. Then at the end, it turns out she just forgot and Absalom's statement was MetaphoricallyTrue (she ''used to be'' the child Alice, and she ''was going to be'' the prophecied prophesied Alice, but ''at this very moment,'' she was neither).
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* ''Film/ReadyPlayerOne'': It's pretty easy to tell that Aech's voice is a female voice modulated to sound a little deeper. It's easier to pull off a twist like this in a book, where you can't hear the characters.

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* ''Film/ReadyPlayerOne'': ''Film/ReadyPlayerOne2018'': It's pretty easy to tell that Aech's voice is a female voice modulated to sound a little deeper. It's easier to pull off a twist like this in a book, where you can't hear the characters.
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** ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome'': Even those who were completly unaware of the comic character probably figured out easily that Mysterio is EvilAllAlong and the BigBad of the movie. Not only is casting illusions and tricking the people Mysterio's schtick in the comics, the fact that the Elementals - who were marketed as the villains of the movie - are purely CGI without any known actor and without a single spoken line in the trailers and actual movie, while Mysterio is played by A-List actor Creator/JakeGyllenhaal made many suspicious. Also, Quentin Beck being very nice and understandable towards Peter can be read easily as an act.

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** ''Film/SpiderManFarFromHome'': Even those who were completly completely unaware of the comic character probably figured out easily that Mysterio is EvilAllAlong and the BigBad of the movie. Not only is casting illusions and tricking the people Mysterio's schtick in the comics, the fact that the Elementals - who were marketed as the villains of the movie - are purely CGI without any known actor and without a single spoken line in the trailers and actual movie, while Mysterio is played by A-List actor Creator/JakeGyllenhaal made many suspicious. Also, Quentin Beck being very nice and understandable towards Peter can be read easily as an act.



* ''Film/SilverLiningsPlaybook'': The fact that Tiffany wrote Nikki's note to Pat is made obvious by the fact that everything (including the signature) is typed rather than handwritten, the contents of the letter don't sound like someone with a restraining order against Pat, and Tiffany's description of Nikki's mood when handing the letter over sounds dubious. Even if you missed all that, Pat eventually rereads passages of the letter and then glances suspiciously in Tiffany's direction, making it quite clear that even Pat has figured it out. However, when Pat tells Tiffany in the end that he knows she wrote the letter, it's all treated as a big twist.

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* ''Film/SilverLiningsPlaybook'': The fact that Tiffany wrote forged Nikki's note to Pat is made obvious by the fact that everything (including the signature) is typed rather than handwritten, the contents content of the letter don't sound like it comes from someone with a restraining order against Pat, and Tiffany's description of Nikki's mood when handing over the letter over sounds dubious. Even if you missed all that, Pat eventually rereads passages of the letter and then glances suspiciously in Tiffany's direction, making it quite clear that even Pat has figured it out. However, when Pat tells Tiffany in the end that he knows she wrote the letter, it's all treated as a big twist.
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* ''Film/SilverLiningsPlaybook'': The fact that Tiffany wrote Nikki's note to Pat is made obvious by the fact that everything (including the signature) is typed rather than handwritten, the contents of the letter don't sound like someone with a restraining order against Pat, and Tiffany's description of Nikki's mood when handing the letter over sounds dubious. Even if you missed all that, Pat eventually rereads passages of the letter and then glances suspiciously in Tiffany's direction, making it quite clear that even Pat has figured it out. However, when Pat tells Tiffany in the end that he knows she wrote the letter, it's all treated as a big twist.
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* ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'': Judge Doom is so ObviouslyEvil that the second you see him and hear his name is '''[[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Judge Doom]]''', you know he's either involved in the titular frame-up or is the culprit outright. This actually makes the ''second'' twist much more of a surprise, since you aren't expecting him to be not just a toon, but the toon who killed Eddie's brother.
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** ''Film/SawX'': The Eye Vacuum Trap seen in the movie's first ten minutes turns out to be nothing but an ImagineSpot by John when he witnesses a custodian stealing from a patient, who changes his mind when he notices John watching. It's obvious that the only clear purpose of this scene is to spice up the first act with some gore, as the movie has an otherwise low-key dramatic start, unlike most other ''Saw'' films.

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** ''Film/SawX'': The Eye Vacuum Trap seen in the movie's first ten minutes turns out to be nothing but an ImagineSpot by John when he witnesses a hospital custodian stealing from a patient, who changes his mind when he notices John watching. It's obvious that the only clear purpose of this scene is to spice up the first act with some gore, as the movie has an otherwise low-key dramatic start, unlike most other ''Saw'' films.
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** ''Film/SawX'': The Eye Vacuum Trap seen in the movie's first ten minutes turns out to be nothing but an ImagineSpot by John when he witnesses a custodian stealing from a patient, who changes his mind when he notices John watching. It's obvious that the only clear purpose of this scene is to spice up the first act with some gore, as the movie has an otherwise low-key dramatic start, unlike most other ''Saw'' films.
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* ''Film/Expend4bles'': While one theory was that a surprise cameo would be revealed as the villain, to no one's surprise ultimately, Marsh turns out to be Ocelot and the real BigBad.
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* ''Film/TimeCrimes:'' The mysterious masked man harassing Hector is a time-shifted version of Hector? In a film called ''Time Crimes''? Fancy that!
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*** Hoffman successfully framing Strahm and getting him killed is handled so poorly that it doesn't even come across as a twist.

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*** Hoffman successfully framing Strahm and getting him killed is handled so poorly that it doesn't even come across as a twist.twist ending.
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*** Between the video for the first trap being roundly unsubtle ("Today, five will become one...") and the chambers in the second trap clearly being large enough to fit more than one person, most people immediately figured that the victims of the Fatal Five were meant to work together.

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*** Between the video for the first trap being roundly unsubtle ("Today, five will become one...one with the common goal of survival.") and the chambers in the second trap clearly being large enough to fit more than one person, most people immediately figured that the victims of the Fatal Five were meant to work together.
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*** Hoffman successfully framing Strahm is handled so poorly that it doesn't even come across as a twist.

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*** Hoffman successfully framing Strahm and getting him killed is handled so poorly that it doesn't even come across as a twist.
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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', 3D'' (and thus the final one of the original seven films, albeit with Lawrence being a more minor accomplice rather than a full-term apprentice), said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers have thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Film/SawII'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers have had thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Film/SawII'' ''Saw II'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Saw 3D'', said viewers, in addition to many others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.
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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers have thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Film/SawII'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Film/Saw3D'', said viewers, plus many others were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers have thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Film/SawII'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Film/Saw3D'', ''Saw 3D'', said viewers, plus in addition to many others others, were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'': Ever since ''Film/SawII'', a progressively increasing number of viewers have thought (whether it be out of suspicion or as a suggested fan idea) that Lawrence might have survived and become an apprentice of Jigsaw, since his ambiguous fate from the first movie's events was referenced in some way in every following one as a sort of MythArc, starting with the figure who performed Michael's eye surgery on the Death Mask video tape from ''Film/SawII'' (initially meant to be John) having a notable limp (intended on part of the figure's actor Darren Lynn Bousman, who wanted a flavored movement that showed the progression of John's cancer by the time of the film) comparable to Lawrence's self-amputated leg. Once it became AscendedFanon as the final twist of ''Film/Saw3D'', said viewers, plus many others were able to see the reveal coming, not helped by the movie opening with Lawrence losing consciousness after attempting to treat his stump, then showing him midway through completely fine in the Jigsaw Survivor Group meeting, where he gives Bobby a mocking speech with a rather suspicious tone, followed by Cale referring to him as "the creepy man with the cane" when he talks to Bobby after the meeting.



*** Thanks to the above, many viewers were able to see the SequencingDeception that the barn game takes place before the [[Film/SawI first film]]. Not so much with Logan being the one behind the killings, though.

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*** Thanks to the above, many viewers were able to see the SequencingDeception that the barn game takes place before the [[Film/SawI first film]]. Not so much with Logan being the one behind the present killings, though.
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** ''[[Film/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'': Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank", as in to stab someone in the back.

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** ''[[Film/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'': Schenk being the Spiral Killer becomes very blatant when he supposedly dies in one of the games, simply due to the fact that, unlike all the past victims (as well as the fact that this already happened in two [[Film/SawIV previous]] [[Film/{{Jigsaw}} films]] with other killers), he's never seen getting kidnapped nor is his game itself shown. Also, his surname sounds like "shank", as "shank" (as in to stab someone in the back.back), and the fact that he's played by Creator/MaxMinghella (who's already known for playing twist villains) was enough for some people to figure him out as early as the film's trailer came out.

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