History CaptainErsatz / ComicBooks

28th Apr '16 12:10:46 PM DougRed4
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* The Shi'ar Imperial Guard, introduced in ''X-Men'' vol. 1 #107, began as an ersatz Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}. Electron is Cosmic Boy, Hobgoblin is Chameleon, Smasher is Ultra Boy, etc. Not surprising that writer Creator/ChrisClaremont and artist Dave Cockrum would do this, since Cockrum had become famous drawing the Legion for DC before he co-created the All-New, All-Different X-Men (he had in fact offered Nightcrawler as a potential Legionnaire before, only to have him rejected as too weird-looking). In particular there is a strong resemblance between Superman (or the pre-Crisis Superboy) and his expy Gladiator, which was lampshaded by naming him after the novel that is generally believed to have inspired the creation of Superman, and who eventually got the real name "Kallark" (sounds like "Clark" ''and'' Kal-El, don't it?). The Gladiator also has a similar chest insignia and costume, but his powers are psycho-active ([[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve he can only do something if he believes he can]]) and he has blue skin and a huge mohawk.

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* The Shi'ar Imperial Guard, introduced in ''X-Men'' vol. 1 #107, began as an ersatz Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}. Electron is Cosmic Boy, Hobgoblin is Chameleon, Smasher is Ultra Boy, etc. Not surprising that writer Creator/ChrisClaremont and artist Dave Cockrum would do this, since Cockrum had become famous drawing the Legion for DC before he co-created the All-New, All-Different X-Men (he had in fact offered Nightcrawler as a potential Legionnaire before, only to have him rejected as too weird-looking). In particular there is a strong resemblance between Superman (or the pre-Crisis Superboy) and his expy Gladiator, which was lampshaded by naming him after the novel that is generally believed to have inspired the creation of Superman, and who eventually got the real name "Kallark" (sounds like "Clark" ''and'' Kal-El, don't doesn't it?). The Gladiator also has a similar chest insignia and costume, but his powers are psycho-active ([[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve he can only do something if he believes he can]]) and he has blue purple skin and a huge mohawk.
28th Apr '16 12:02:36 PM DougRed4
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* Franchise/{{Superman}} has [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] (now an inhabitant of the same comics universe), Hyperion (Marvel), Mister Majestic (who has actually met Superman and briefly replaced him), and Comicbook/{{Supreme}}. In the MMORPG ''VideoGame/CityOfHeroes'', Statesman occupies this role. Tabletop RPG versions include The Sentinel (Silver Age Sentinels), Protonik (Mutants & Masterminds, 1e), Axiom (Villains & Vigilantes) and the Centurion (M&M 2e).

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* Franchise/{{Superman}} has [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] (now an inhabitant of the same comics universe), Hyperion (Marvel), Mister Majestic (who has actually met Superman and briefly replaced him), and Comicbook/{{Supreme}}. In the MMORPG ''VideoGame/CityOfHeroes'', Statesman occupies this role. Tabletop RPG versions include The Sentinel (Silver Age Sentinels), Protonik (Mutants & Masterminds, 1e), Axiom (Villains & Vigilantes) Vigilantes), and the Centurion (M&M 2e).
28th Apr '16 12:01:13 PM DougRed4
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* Franchise/{{Superman}} has [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] (now an inhabitant of the same comics universe), Hyperion (Marvel), Mister Majestic (who has actually met Superman and briefly replaced him), and Comicbook/{{Supreme}}. In the MMORPG ''VideoGame/CityOfHeroes'', Statesman occupies this role. Tabletop RPG versions include The Sentinel (Silver Age Sentinels), Protonik (Mutants & Masterminds, 1e) and the Centurion (M&M 2e).

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* Franchise/{{Superman}} has [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] (now an inhabitant of the same comics universe), Hyperion (Marvel), Mister Majestic (who has actually met Superman and briefly replaced him), and Comicbook/{{Supreme}}. In the MMORPG ''VideoGame/CityOfHeroes'', Statesman occupies this role. Tabletop RPG versions include The Sentinel (Silver Age Sentinels), Protonik (Mutants & Masterminds, 1e) 1e), Axiom (Villains & Vigilantes) and the Centurion (M&M 2e).
28th Apr '16 11:37:41 AM DougRed4
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** When Liefeld was dismissed from the ComicBook/HeroesReborn Comicbook/CaptainAmerica series, he decided to use re-use the unpublished art as a reprise of Joe Simon's character [[CaptainPatriotic Fighting American]], but licensing delays led to the interim creation of ''Agent America''. He had some legal trouble from Marvel for his Fighting American series; namely FA was way, ''way'' too much like Cap, even having a round shield that he would throw. Liefeld had to be content with a Fighting American who did ''not'' throw his shield.

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** When Liefeld was dismissed from the ComicBook/HeroesReborn Comicbook/CaptainAmerica series, he decided to use re-use the unpublished art as a reprise of Joe Simon's character [[CaptainPatriotic Fighting American]], but licensing delays led to the interim creation of ''Agent America''. He had some legal trouble from Marvel for his Fighting American series; namely FA was way, ''way'' too much like Cap, even having a round shield that he would throw. Liefeld had to be content with a Fighting American who did ''not'' throw his shield.
28th Apr '16 11:35:04 AM DougRed4
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* Moore loves this trope and reuses it in ''ComicBook/{{Providence}}'' his Lovecraft meta-origin story. Most Lovecraft characters, as well as locations such as Arkham, are renamed. The exceptions so far are Robert Suydam and Thomas Malone from ''The Horror at Red Hook''. Moore is not dealing with copyright issues, as Lovecraft has lapsed into public domain (as shown by Cthulhu commonly appearing in horror work). Instead it appears that Moore is suggesting that in-universe Lovecraft took the characters and locations depicted and wrote about them in his stories, merely changing their names. However Moore could not do this with Suydam and Malone as they were already named in "Neonomicon", so he used their original Lovecraftian names.

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* Moore loves this trope and reuses it in ''ComicBook/{{Providence}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Providence}}'', his Lovecraft meta-origin story. Most Lovecraft characters, as well as locations such as Arkham, are renamed. The exceptions so far are Robert Suydam and Thomas Malone from ''The Horror at Red Hook''. Moore is not dealing with copyright issues, as Lovecraft has lapsed into public domain (as shown by Cthulhu commonly appearing in horror work). Instead it appears that Moore is suggesting that in-universe Lovecraft took the characters and locations depicted and wrote about them in his stories, merely changing their names. However Moore could not do this with Suydam and Malone as they were already named in "Neonomicon", so he used their original Lovecraftian names.
28th Feb '16 7:45:08 PM nombretomado
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* It's been established that as a child, CaptainAmerica used to listen to a radio serial about the Midnight Racer, a BadassNormal pulp hero whose sidekick was an Asian chauffeur/martial artist. [[GreenHornet Sound familiar?]]

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* It's been established that as a child, CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica used to listen to a radio serial about the Midnight Racer, a BadassNormal pulp hero whose sidekick was an Asian chauffeur/martial artist. [[GreenHornet Sound familiar?]]



** Marine Omega = CaptainAmerica, only with more of a LegacyCharacter aspect added in.

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** Marine Omega = CaptainAmerica, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, only with more of a LegacyCharacter aspect added in.



** The heroes of Earth-8 are all based off Creator/MarvelComics characters. The Retaliators (ComicBook/TheAvengers) consist of the American Crusader (CaptainAmerica), Machinehead (Comicbook/IronMan), Behemoth (the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk), Wundajin (Comicbook/TheMightyThor), The Bug (Comicbook/SpiderMan), Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}), Red Dragon (Comicbook/BlackWidow), Kite (ComicBook/TheWasp crossed with a {{Gender Flip}}ped [[Comicbook/TheFalcon Falcon]]), Mighty Max ([[ComicBook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman) and Hyperius (either [[ComicBook/SquadronSupreme Hyperion]] or ComicBook/TheSentry). There's also the Future Family (the Comicbook/FantasticFour), the G-Men (the Comicbook/XMen), Lord Havok (Doctor Doom), the Power Celestial ([[ComicBook/{{Galactus}} the Power]] [[ComicBook/SilverSurfer Cosmic]] and Celestials), and Stuntmaster (Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}).

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** The heroes of Earth-8 are all based off Creator/MarvelComics characters. The Retaliators (ComicBook/TheAvengers) consist of the American Crusader (CaptainAmerica), (ComicBook/CaptainAmerica), Machinehead (Comicbook/IronMan), Behemoth (the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk), Wundajin (Comicbook/TheMightyThor), The Bug (Comicbook/SpiderMan), Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}), Red Dragon (Comicbook/BlackWidow), Kite (ComicBook/TheWasp crossed with a {{Gender Flip}}ped [[Comicbook/TheFalcon Falcon]]), Mighty Max ([[ComicBook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman) and Hyperius (either [[ComicBook/SquadronSupreme Hyperion]] or ComicBook/TheSentry). There's also the Future Family (the Comicbook/FantasticFour), the G-Men (the Comicbook/XMen), Lord Havok (Doctor Doom), the Power Celestial ([[ComicBook/{{Galactus}} the Power]] [[ComicBook/SilverSurfer Cosmic]] and Celestials), and Stuntmaster (Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}).
25th Feb '16 6:38:04 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* ''Everyone's'' [[FightingSpirit "Stands"]] in the 1997 one-shot comic ''Diesel''. Being a complete rip-off of the ''Stardust Crusaders'' arc of ''Manga/{{JoJosBizarreAdventure}}'', it's not to hard to "base" your characters' stands on other anime and even American comics. The protagonist's stand is based heavily on both [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] and Pitt, a 90's anti-hero, with wild hair similar to [[Manga/DragonBall a super-Saiyan]] or {{WesternAnimation/Freakazoid}}'s.
18th Feb '16 4:25:38 PM TitoMosquito
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* Zauriel was created by Creator/GrantMorrison and Creator/MarkMillar as a stand-in for Comicbook/{{Hawkman}}, who had been {{retcon}}ned so badly that [[ContinuitySnarl he was unusable]]. Morrison made it a point to lampshade this so readers would get the point, too. The first time he sees Zauriel, Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} momentarily mistakes him for Hawkman. Later on, Franchise/{{Superman}} invites him to join, saying, "there's always room in the Justice League for, well...a big guy with wings like you."

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* Zauriel was created by Creator/GrantMorrison and Creator/MarkMillar as a stand-in for Comicbook/{{Hawkman}}, who had been {{retcon}}ned so badly that [[ContinuitySnarl he was unusable]]. Morrison made it a point to lampshade this so readers would get the point, too. The first time he sees Zauriel, Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} momentarily mistakes him for Hawkman.Hawkman[[note]]"Katar?"[[/note]]. Later on, Franchise/{{Superman}} invites him to join, saying, "there's always room in the Justice League for, well...a big guy with wings like you."" At one point, he and the then-new Hawkgirl Kendra Saunders bumped into each other when they flew.
10th Feb '16 6:32:22 PM Greenygal
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* Batton Lash's ''Supernatural Law'' comic is full of Ersatz versions of various horror movie, TV and comic characters, including Sod, the Thing Called It (a Comicbook/SwampThing / Comicbook/ManThing pastiche) and "Mildred Winters, the Vampire Hater," a geeky analogue to Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer.

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* Batton Lash's ''Supernatural Law'' ''Webcomic/SupernaturalLaw'' comic is full of Ersatz versions of various horror movie, TV and comic characters, including Sod, the Thing Called It (a Comicbook/SwampThing / Comicbook/ManThing pastiche) and "Mildred Winters, the Vampire Hater," a geeky analogue to Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer.
5th Feb '16 12:25:34 PM StFan
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* Comicbook/TheAvengers fought an entire team composed of Captain Ersatzes called the ComicBook/SquadronSupreme, a thinly veiled AlternateCompanyEquivalent of the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica. The members of the Squadron are:

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* Comicbook/TheAvengers ComicBook/TheAvengers fought an entire team composed of Captain Ersatzes called the ComicBook/SquadronSupreme, a thinly veiled AlternateCompanyEquivalent of the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica. The members of the Squadron are:



*** This was part of a joint effort on DC and Marvel's part though, seeing as the JLA has faced off against a group of Ersatzes of [[Comicbook/TheAvengers Marvel's finest]]:

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*** This was part of a joint effort on DC and Marvel's part though, seeing as the JLA has faced off against a group of Ersatzes of [[Comicbook/TheAvengers [[ComicBook/TheAvengers Marvel's finest]]:



* The Ultramarine Corps in ''JLA Classified'' were light Ersatzes of Comicbook/TheAvengers and other miscellaneous Marvel heroes. The Olympian had power from the gods but was a little nutty (Thor), Goraiko is a giant atomic monster (Hulk), Warmaker-One is an uber-patriot who only exists inside a high tech exoskeleton (Captain America/Iron Man), the Glob is a BoisterousBruiser who calls himself "ever-lovin'" (The Thing), etc.

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* The Ultramarine Corps in ''JLA Classified'' were light Ersatzes of Comicbook/TheAvengers ComicBook/TheAvengers and other miscellaneous Marvel heroes. The Olympian had power from the gods but was a little nutty (Thor), Goraiko is a giant atomic monster (Hulk), Warmaker-One is an uber-patriot who only exists inside a high tech exoskeleton (Captain America/Iron Man), the Glob is a BoisterousBruiser who calls himself "ever-lovin'" (The Thing), etc.



** And in ''another'' recent issue of the ''Meg'' Dredd took on a rogue PR judge and his team of "super-judges" called the ''Adjudicators.'' This issue also coincided with the UK release of Film/TheAvengers movie.

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** And in ''another'' recent issue of the ''Meg'' Dredd took on a rogue PR judge and his team of "super-judges" called the ''Adjudicators.'' This issue also coincided with the UK release of Film/TheAvengers ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' movie.



** The Superior Squad = the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica, as well as aspects of Comicbook/TheAvengers.

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** The Superior Squad = the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica, as well as aspects of Comicbook/TheAvengers.ComicBook/TheAvengers.



** The heroes of Earth-8 are all based off Creator/MarvelComics characters. The Retaliators (Comicbook/TheAvengers) consist of the American Crusader (CaptainAmerica), Machinehead (Comicbook/IronMan), Behemoth (the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk), Wundajin (Comicbook/TheMightyThor), The Bug (Comicbook/SpiderMan), Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}), Red Dragon (Comicbook/BlackWidow), Kite (ComicBook/TheWasp crossed with a {{Gender Flip}}ped [[Comicbook/TheFalcon Falcon]]), Mighty Max ([[ComicBook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman) and Hyperius (either [[ComicBook/SquadronSupreme Hyperion]] or ComicBook/TheSentry). There's also the Future Family (the Comicbook/FantasticFour), the G-Men (the Comicbook/XMen), Lord Havok (Doctor Doom), the Power Celestial ([[ComicBook/{{Galactus}} the Power]] [[ComicBook/SilverSurfer Cosmic]] and Celestials), and Stuntmaster (Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}).

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** The heroes of Earth-8 are all based off Creator/MarvelComics characters. The Retaliators (Comicbook/TheAvengers) (ComicBook/TheAvengers) consist of the American Crusader (CaptainAmerica), Machinehead (Comicbook/IronMan), Behemoth (the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk), Wundajin (Comicbook/TheMightyThor), The Bug (Comicbook/SpiderMan), Deadeye (ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}), Red Dragon (Comicbook/BlackWidow), Kite (ComicBook/TheWasp crossed with a {{Gender Flip}}ped [[Comicbook/TheFalcon Falcon]]), Mighty Max ([[ComicBook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]), Ladybug (ComicBook/SpiderWoman) and Hyperius (either [[ComicBook/SquadronSupreme Hyperion]] or ComicBook/TheSentry). There's also the Future Family (the Comicbook/FantasticFour), the G-Men (the Comicbook/XMen), Lord Havok (Doctor Doom), the Power Celestial ([[ComicBook/{{Galactus}} the Power]] [[ComicBook/SilverSurfer Cosmic]] and Celestials), and Stuntmaster (Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}).
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