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** Some say ''Katsugeki'' was better because it supposedly had more of a plot, "relevant" character arcs, played up the oft-forgotten "protecting history" angle, and to some felt more like a ''Touken Ranbu'' anime in adapting the more dramatic aspects of the swords' backstories[[note]] mainly only with the two leads Izuminokami and Mutsunokami, plus tritagonist Horikawa; the rest of the squad, despite being a part of the main cast, did not really get much development or arc focus [[/note]] and decry ''Hanamaru'' as "[[PanderingToTheBase the]] Website/{{Pixiv}} [[PanderingToTheBase version]]" that makes the series look no different than any other SliceOfLife series, and overexaggerates the characters and their arcs to match with fan perceptions (leading to events like [[spoiler:Yamatonokami's controversial desicion to stop Okita from getting injured at the Ikeda-ya]]). Some also feel like the series crams too many characters in to make sure nobody feels left out, at the expense of the main pair's arc and development, up until the end.

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** Some say ''Katsugeki'' was better because it supposedly had more of a plot, "relevant" character arcs, played up the oft-forgotten "protecting history" angle, and to some felt more like a ''Touken Ranbu'' anime in adapting the more dramatic aspects of the swords' backstories[[note]] mainly only with the two leads Izuminokami and Mutsunokami, plus tritagonist Horikawa; the rest of the squad, despite being a part of the main cast, did not really get much development or arc focus [[/note]] and decry ''Hanamaru'' as "[[PanderingToTheBase the]] Website/{{Pixiv}} Platform/{{Pixiv}} [[PanderingToTheBase version]]" that makes the series look no different than any other SliceOfLife series, and overexaggerates the characters and their arcs to match with fan perceptions (leading to events like [[spoiler:Yamatonokami's controversial desicion to stop Okita from getting injured at the Ikeda-ya]]). Some also feel like the series crams too many characters in to make sure nobody feels left out, at the expense of the main pair's arc and development, up until the end.
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* Some fans and players are vehemently opposed to the incorporation of events from the spin-offs into the main game because they believe it interferes with their perception of Honmaru. For example, there was a lot of backlash because Inaba Gou was introduced in the musical Kishou Hongi before being brought over to the main game, and dialogue from the musical was referenced in his Recollection with Kotegiri Gou, as well as how Murakumo and Samidare were seemingly only added to the game so that they could debut in the musicals. It reached a climax in 2022 Great Invasion event, when some fans abruptly stopped playing after learning that Mikazuki Munechika was repeating history, a major plot point in the stage play, even though it ended up playing out completely differently. On the other hand, some fans believe that overlap was unavoidable, given that there is most likely a rule book that all adaptations and the game itself adhere to for consistency, and similar ideas emerge in each work as a result.

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* Some fans and players are vehemently opposed to the incorporation of events story elements from the spin-offs into the main game because they believe it interferes with their perception of Honmaru. citadel, given that the games citadel is basically a "blank slate" that everyone, including the spin-offs, builds their own stories off of. For example, there was a lot of backlash because over Inaba Gou was not only being introduced in the musical Kishou Hongi before being brought over to the main browser game, and but also the fact that dialogue from the musical was referenced in his Recollection with Kotegiri Gou, as well as how Gou (who saved him in the musical), and got even worse when people began to say that Samidare and Murakumo and Samidare were seemingly only added to the browser game so that they could debut be introduced in the musicals. musical (There was only a month or two gap between their game releases and their appearance in the musicals). It reached a climax in the 2022 Great Invasion event, when some fans abruptly stopped playing after learning that Mikazuki Munechika was repeating history, history and needed a starter sword to help him progress in his story, which was a major plot point in the stage play, even though it ended up playing out completely differently. On the other hand, some fans believe that overlap was unavoidable, given that there is most likely a rule book that all adaptations and the game itself adhere to for consistency, and similar ideas would emerge in each work as a result.result of that.
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* The shipping of swords who are brothers can cause controversy, with one side claiming that it's incest and therefore immoral, and the other side countering that fiction has nothing to do with a writer or consumer's morality and therefore what a person ships doesn't matter. The issue gets muddied further by the nonhuman natures of the Toudan, and that what exactly makes a pair of swords "brothers" varies from character to character. Much like the tantou issue above, this argument is exclusive to the Western side of the fandom due to ValuesDissonance.

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* The shipping of swords who are brothers can cause controversy, with one side claiming that it's incest and therefore immoral, and the other side countering that fiction has nothing to do with a writer or consumer's morality and therefore what a person ships doesn't matter. The issue gets muddied further by the nonhuman natures of the Toudan, and that what exactly makes a pair of swords "brothers" varies from character to character. Much like the tantou issue above, this argument is exclusive to the Western side of the fandom due to ValuesDissonance.ValuesDissonance.
* Some fans and players are vehemently opposed to the incorporation of events from the spin-offs into the main game because they believe it interferes with their perception of Honmaru. For example, there was a lot of backlash because Inaba Gou was introduced in the musical Kishou Hongi before being brought over to the main game, and dialogue from the musical was referenced in his Recollection with Kotegiri Gou, as well as how Murakumo and Samidare were seemingly only added to the game so that they could debut in the musicals. It reached a climax in 2022 Great Invasion event, when some fans abruptly stopped playing after learning that Mikazuki Munechika was repeating history, a major plot point in the stage play, even though it ended up playing out completely differently. On the other hand, some fans believe that overlap was unavoidable, given that there is most likely a rule book that all adaptations and the game itself adhere to for consistency, and similar ideas emerge in each work as a result.

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** The English translation of the game divided fans. For one thing, the website it was hosted on was largely known for ecchi and hentai games, so playing the game made certain fans uncomfortable, not only for the porn ads that would surround the game window, but for the sheer absurdity of such a tame game about men being hosted in such a place. For another, many fans took issue with the incredibly liberal translation, which often changed the characterisations of the boys, and contained many spelling and grammar errors. Some fans refuse to touch the English version thanks to all of these issues, while others think that the issues are minor and are just glad the game got an official translation at all.

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** * The English translation of the game divided fans. For one thing, the website it was hosted on was largely known for ecchi and hentai games, so playing the game made certain fans uncomfortable, not only for the porn ads that would surround the game window, but for the sheer absurdity of such a tame game about men being hosted in such a place. For another, many fans took issue with the incredibly liberal translation, which often changed the characterisations of the boys, and contained many spelling and grammar errors. Some fans refuse to touch the English version thanks to all of these issues, while others think that the issues are minor and are just glad the game got an official translation at all.all.
* The shipping of swords who are brothers can cause controversy, with one side claiming that it's incest and therefore immoral, and the other side countering that fiction has nothing to do with a writer or consumer's morality and therefore what a person ships doesn't matter. The issue gets muddied further by the nonhuman natures of the Toudan, and that what exactly makes a pair of swords "brothers" varies from character to character. Much like the tantou issue above, this argument is exclusive to the Western side of the fandom due to ValuesDissonance.
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** The English translation of the game divided fans. For one thing, the website it was hosted on was largely known for ecchi and hentai games, uncomfortable, not only for the porn ads that would surround the game window, but for the sheer absurdity of such a tame game about men being hosted in such a place. For another, many fans took issue with the incredibly liberal translation, which often changed the characterisations of the boys, and contained many spelling and grammar errors. Some fans refuse to touch the English version thanks to all of these issues, while others think that the issues are minor and are just glad the game got an official translation at all.

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** The English translation of the game divided fans. For one thing, the website it was hosted on was largely known for ecchi and hentai games, so playing the game made certain fans uncomfortable, not only for the porn ads that would surround the game window, but for the sheer absurdity of such a tame game about men being hosted in such a place. For another, many fans took issue with the incredibly liberal translation, which often changed the characterisations of the boys, and contained many spelling and grammar errors. Some fans refuse to touch the English version thanks to all of these issues, while others think that the issues are minor and are just glad the game got an official translation at all.
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** Lastly, there are fans who whole heartily liked both adaptations or felt that both adaptations fulfilled their purpose of what they were adapted to be like with ''Hanamaru'' being the SliceOfLife anime it was promised to be and ''Katsugeki'' being the action oriented other half.

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** Lastly, there are fans who whole heartily liked both adaptations or felt that both adaptations fulfilled their purpose of what they were adapted to be like with ''Hanamaru'' being the SliceOfLife anime it was promised to be and ''Katsugeki'' being the action oriented other half.half.
** The English translation of the game divided fans. For one thing, the website it was hosted on was largely known for ecchi and hentai games, uncomfortable, not only for the porn ads that would surround the game window, but for the sheer absurdity of such a tame game about men being hosted in such a place. For another, many fans took issue with the incredibly liberal translation, which often changed the characterisations of the boys, and contained many spelling and grammar errors. Some fans refuse to touch the English version thanks to all of these issues, while others think that the issues are minor and are just glad the game got an official translation at all.
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* How the Revisionists are portrayed in and out of game counts. Some are fine with their monsterous characterization, since it brings more focus on the Saniwa's swords and leaves less room to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for the empire]] like what happened with the Abyssal Fleet in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection''. Others argue that the Revisionists barely have character ''at all'', and treating them as little more than cannon fodder takes away from exploring how the factions operate and the possible implications of how they came to be (See {{Fanon}} below).
* The announcement of the two anime adaptations had mixed reactions. Some people fear that the adaptations will not be very good (especially considering the low opinions many fans have of the ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'' [[Anime/KantaiCollection anime]]), while others are happy about the prospect of their favorite swords getting animated. Another reason why a part of the fandom (mostly overseas fans) are against the adaptations is because they fear how the [[NewbieBoom new]] ''Touken Ranbu'' fans will be. It was notable how they held the popularity of the franchise back, however, with two upcoming anime, chances are pretty high the bigger mass will discover ''Touken Ranbu''.
* Related to above, will the [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen Saniwa]] (and by extension, what will the Saniwa's ''gender'' will be) appear in the anime or not has sparked debates, similar to the adaptation of ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection''. While the saniwa of ''Anime/ToukenRanbuHanamaru'' sparked some debate over whether or not they should have been depicted in full or just have another sword take the role (amusingly, similar to ''[=KanColle=]'''s own adaptation), Ufotable's version for ''Anime/KatsugekiToukenRanbu'' ended up in some wondering why the saniwa wasn't depicted as off screen like the ''Hanamaru'' one, why they looked like a little boy, and whether the decision to go for an androgynous look and not confirm either way instead of featuring the more popular interpretations of the character was an example of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering]], chickening out, a good idea, or something else entirely.

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* How the Revisionists are portrayed in and out of game counts. Some are fine with their monsterous characterization, since it brings more focus on the Saniwa's swords and leaves less room to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for the empire]] like what happened with the Abyssal Fleet in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection''.''VideoGame/KanColle''. Others argue that the Revisionists barely have character ''at all'', and treating them as little more than cannon fodder takes away from exploring how the factions operate and the possible implications of how they came to be (See {{Fanon}} below).
* The announcement of the two anime adaptations had mixed reactions. Some people fear that the adaptations will not be very good (especially considering the low opinions many fans have of the ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'' [[Anime/KantaiCollection ''VideoGame/KanColle'' [[Anime/KanColle anime]]), while others are happy about the prospect of their favorite swords getting animated. Another reason why a part of the fandom (mostly overseas fans) are against the adaptations is because they fear how the [[NewbieBoom new]] ''Touken Ranbu'' fans will be. It was notable how they held the popularity of the franchise back, however, with two upcoming anime, chances are pretty high the bigger mass will discover ''Touken Ranbu''.
* Related to above, will the [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen Saniwa]] (and by extension, what will the Saniwa's ''gender'' will be) appear in the anime or not has sparked debates, similar to the adaptation of ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection''.''VideoGame/KanColle''. While the saniwa of ''Anime/ToukenRanbuHanamaru'' sparked some debate over whether or not they should have been depicted in full or just have another sword take the role (amusingly, similar to ''[=KanColle=]'''s own adaptation), Ufotable's version for ''Anime/KatsugekiToukenRanbu'' ended up in some wondering why the saniwa wasn't depicted as off screen like the ''Hanamaru'' one, why they looked like a little boy, and whether the decision to go for an androgynous look and not confirm either way instead of featuring the more popular interpretations of the character was an example of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering]], chickening out, a good idea, or something else entirely.
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* In July 2015, an update changed several characters[[note]]Izuminokami, Ookurikara, and Doudanuki[[/note]] from tachi to uchigatana. Naturally, fans were divided over this change, with some not really minding while others were unhappy, considering the change a big downgrade for the characters; however, their tachi-grade stats weren't {{nerf}}ed, making them a strong uchigatana trio. Especially Izuminokami, who currently holds the position as the ''strongest'' uchigatana.
* How the Revisionists are portrayed in and out of game counts. Some are fine with their monsterous characterization, since it brings more focus on the Saniwa's swords and leaves less room to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for the empire]] like what happened with the Abyssal Fleet in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection''. Others argue that the Revisionists barely have character ''at all'', and treating them as little more than cannon fodder takes away from exploring how the factions operate and the possible implications of how they came to be (See {{Fanon}} below).
* The announcement of the two anime adaptations had mixed reactions. Some people fear that the adaptations will not be very good (especially considering the low opinions many fans have of the ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'' [[Anime/KantaiCollection anime]]), while others are happy about the prospect of their favorite swords getting animated. Another reason why a part of the fandom (mostly overseas fans) are against the adaptations is because they fear how the [[NewbieBoom new]] ''Touken Ranbu'' fans will be. It was notable how they held the popularity of the franchise back, however, with two upcoming anime, chances are pretty high the bigger mass will discover ''Touken Ranbu''.
* Related to above, will the [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen Saniwa]] (and by extension, what will the Saniwa's ''gender'' will be) appear in the anime or not has sparked debates, similar to the adaptation of ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection''. While the saniwa of ''Anime/ToukenRanbuHanamaru'' sparked some debate over whether or not they should have been depicted in full or just have another sword take the role (amusingly, similar to ''[=KanColle=]'''s own adaptation), Ufotable's version for ''Anime/KatsugekiToukenRanbu'' ended up in some wondering why the saniwa wasn't depicted as off screen like the ''Hanamaru'' one, why they looked like a little boy, and whether the decision to go for an androgynous look and not confirm either way instead of featuring the more popular interpretations of the character was an example of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering]], chickening out, a good idea, or something else entirely.
* While Kiwame has been well-received by most players as a way to upgrade the [[ComMons weak tantous]] to be useful on later maps, some are concerned by the changes in their lines that focus more on that Saniwa's attention and less on their own character tics. In a particular case, many fans of Imanotsurugi are reluctant to give him the Kiwame upgrade because [[TomatoInTheMirror it retcons a huge part of his character, and tragically so]].
** However, as later swords got remodels, it seems this trait is only reserved for tantous only. Justified, as tantous are supposed to be protection weapons.
* In the Western fanbase, there are quite a few vocal fans that openly question the morality of shipping the younger looking toudan, particularly the tantou, with the swords that are clearly intended to be adults, believing it to be disgusting despite the actual ages of the swords who in reality are well over centuries old; some of the younger looking sword boys are [[OlderThanTheyLook older than the characters that look like adults]]. There are fans that argue back that the age they appear to be is irrelevant due to the reasoning mentioned. The JP fanbase generally doesn't make a [[ValuesDissonance big deal]] out of this but that doesn't stop the debates from coming up.
* Now that the first seasons of the Anime adaptations have concluded, which one was superior? ''Anime/ToukenRanbuHanamaru'' or ''Anime/KatsugekiToukenRanbu''? In Japan, it's made abundantly clear that Fans tend to prefer ''Hanamaru's'' adaptation over ''Katsugeki''[[note]]and the dvd/bluray sales only hammer this home[[/note]] but in the west it's more divided.
** Some say ''Katsugeki'' was better because it supposedly had more of a plot, "relevant" character arcs, played up the oft-forgotten "protecting history" angle, and to some felt more like a ''Touken Ranbu'' anime in adapting the more dramatic aspects of the swords' backstories[[note]] mainly only with the two leads Izuminokami and Mutsunokami, plus tritagonist Horikawa; the rest of the squad, despite being a part of the main cast, did not really get much development or arc focus [[/note]] and decry ''Hanamaru'' as "[[PanderingToTheBase the]] Website/{{Pixiv}} [[PanderingToTheBase version]]" that makes the series look no different than any other SliceOfLife series, and overexaggerates the characters and their arcs to match with fan perceptions (leading to events like [[spoiler:Yamatonokami's controversial desicion to stop Okita from getting injured at the Ikeda-ya]]). Some also feel like the series crams too many characters in to make sure nobody feels left out, at the expense of the main pair's arc and development, up until the end.
** However, others argue that ''Katsugeki'' was a soulless bore of an adaptation whose only saving grace was it being [[SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome visually impressive]], and that it didn't live up to what it promised/was hyped up to be. In comparison, fans of ''Hanamaru'' say that this series felt like it was made for the fans, fun to watch, took an EnsembleCast approach thus giving all fans more time to see their faves instead of staying focused on one (and to a '''VERY LESSER''' degree, two) sword group and was supposedly more faithful to the game and characterization; whereas ''Katsugeki'' took various liberties, particularly with their citadel's lore (the multiple Konnosukes in one citadel and being able to only send two swords at a time back in history at one point, in particular) and characterization/dynamics. People who prefer ''Hanamaru'' often refer to ''Katsugeki'' as a "''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' with a ''Touken Ranbu'' skin" anime and various other snarky nicknames involving that franchise due to their similarities in animation and other things Creator/{{ufotable}} lifted from their previous ''Fate'' adaptations.
** There are some fans who say they like both adaptations but lean more towards one, and those who say that '''both''' adaptations sucked or didn't like the heavy Shinsengumi focus on both series' leads (two Okita swords in ''Hanamaru'', two Hijikata swords in ''Katsugeki'') and their commonality of [[spoiler:attempting to prevent their masters' most famous historical injuries]]. Some other fans [[TakeAThirdOption tend to prefer]] the Stage play, {{Musical}} and {{Manga}} adaptations over both, while others just prefer the original game and fan created content.
** Lastly, there are fans who whole heartily liked both adaptations or felt that both adaptations fulfilled their purpose of what they were adapted to be like with ''Hanamaru'' being the SliceOfLife anime it was promised to be and ''Katsugeki'' being the action oriented other half.

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