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* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards others' grief?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being [[LackOfEmpathy insensitive and cruel]] towards a man who's meant to be one of his [[TrueCompanions closest friends]], arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death as a justification to become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more [[TakeAThirdOption neutral opinion]], whereby neither Gladio or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself [[BothSidesHaveAPoint tries to strike a middle ground]]: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calms down after Ignis's intervention and respect Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards the latter's feelings]]. Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one's opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards other's grief?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being [[LackOfEmpathy insensitive and cruel]] towards a man who's meant to be one of his [[TrueCompanions closest friends]], arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death as a justification to become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more [[TakeAThirdOption neutral opinion]], whereby neither Gladio or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calms down after Ignis's intervention and respect Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards the latter's feelings]]. Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king ? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards other's grief?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death as a justification to become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more [[TakeAThirdOption neutral opinion]], whereby neither Gladio or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calmed down after Ignis's intervention and respected Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards the latter's feelings.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king ? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment ? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards other's grief ?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither Gladio or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calmed himself down after Ignis's intervention and respected Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards the latter's feelings.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* While many were glad that Square is finally moving on from ''Final Fantasy XV'', many, ''many'' people were more than upset at the abrupt cancellation of Episodes Aranea, Lunafreya, and Noctis, as mentioned above. For starters, these DLC Episodes would've been the first -- and only -- chance to get playable female heroes in the game, not to mention it would've considerably fleshed out both Aranea and Luna. To ''really'' add insult to injury, these cancellations were announced during ''the second anniversary event,'' a stream that was hyped up for weeks. What made the situation worse was Hajime Tabata's abrupt "resignation" -- just seven months after he was given the reigns for their most expensive development studio yet, and this was right after Square Enix lost 33 million dollars on an unreported investment within the studio. Keep in mind that Tabata agreed to head Luminous Productions ''specifically'' so he could see his own visions come to life, and yet in his resignation letter, he specifically cited leaving to pursue these visions. The entire situation feels like a Square Enix mismanagement shitshow where Tabata was the FallGuy, while ''Final Fantasy XV'' and the rest of its staff all suffered as a result. At least we're still getting Episode Ardyn...

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king ? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment ? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards other's grief ?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calmed himself down after Ignis's intervention and respected Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards the latter's feelings.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king ? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment ? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards other's grief ?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calmed himself down after Ignis's intervention and respected Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards other's feelings.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards others' grief ?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[Wangst become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, he also tells Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses while Gladio calmed himself down after Ignis's intervention and respected Noctis's decision to still make a stop to Tenebrae, showing that he's now more considerate towards the other's feelings.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[LackOfEmpathy nor empathy towards others' grief ?]]]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* Relatedly, the plans for further DLC to tell a GoldenEnding... by 2019. On top of the arguments over whether this effort is well spent on this GoldenEnding or if it would've been better going towards filling in some story gaps, there were people questioning if Tabata's work on this game would actually ''survive'' until that time, and if anybody would still be playing by then. Those fears were later confirmed as it was announced in November 2018 that Square Enix had dropped ''three out of the four DLC'', leaving only Episode Ardyn still in the works, and that Hajime Tabata had officially left Square Enix. While Square promised to tell the GoldenEnding via [[TheResolutionWillNotBeTelevised other media]] instead, this left a sour taste in some players' mouths, as ''Final Fantasy XV'' is essentially still semi-incomplete given that Tabata had more plans for it yet.

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully]] [[QuitYourWhining throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy]] [[Lack Of Empathy nor empathy towards others' grief ?]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his duties nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy towards others' grief ]]? ]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agreed with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his responsibilities nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

** The ending of ''Dawn of the Future'' is loved by its defenders for being an [[GoldenEnding unambiguously happy ending]] that provides Luna with more depth and agency, as well as things such as [[spoiler:allowing Ardyn to be redeemed, all the heroes surviving, and defying fate to take [[CatharsisFactor rev]][[KarmaHoudiniWarranty enge]] on Bahamut who was not only [[GreaterScopeVillain the ultimate source of the story's tragedy]] but also a KarmaHoudini in the game's ending]]. At the same time, just as many hate it for those very same reasons, perceiving it as [[[[SweetnessAversion overly saccharine]] and PanderingToTheBase at the expense of telling [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids a mature story]], and thus reading [[FixFic like an officially licensed fanfic]]. Other reasons for its divisive reception are that it makes quite a few controversial storytelling decisions, including a great deal of {{Fan Disliked Explanation}}s which seemingly [[{{Retcon}} contradict]] the base game's story, [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks rehashing]] ''Fabula Nova Crystallis'' plot beats, still doing little to make Noctis and Luna's romance [[StrangledByTheRedString any more believable]], and reducing all of Noctis's friends to [[DemotedToExtra footnotes]] in favour of Luna and Ardyn, which detractors see as flying against the story's brotherhood theme and much of what endeared them to the game in the first place.

** The ending of ''Dawn of the Future'' is loved by its defenders for being an [[GoldenEnding unambiguously happy ending]] that provides Luna with more depth and agency, as well as things such as [[spoiler:allowing Ardyn to be redeemed, all the heroes surviving, and defying fate to take [[CatharsisFactor rev]][[KarmaHoudiniWarranty enge]] on Bahamut who was not only [[GreaterScopeVillain the ultimate source of the story's tragedy]] but also a KarmaHoudini in the game's ending]]. At the same time, just as many [[SweetnessAversion hate it for those very same reasons]], seeing it as overly saccharine and PanderingToTheBase at the expense of telling a good story, and thus reading like officially licensed fanfic. Other reasons for its divisive reception are that it makes quite a few controversial storytelling decisions, such as engaging in a great deal of {{Fan Disliked Explanation}}s that seemingly [[{{Retcon}} contradicted]] the in-game story, [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks rehashing]] ''Fabula Nova Crystallis'' plot beats, still doing little to make Noctis and Luna's romance [[StrangledByTheRedString any more believable]], and reducing all of Noctis's friends to [[DemotedToExtra footnotes]] at Luna and Ardyn's expense, which detractors see as flying against the story's brotherhood theme and much of what endeared them to the game in the first place.

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were Gladio's outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy towards others' grief ]]? ]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Those who agree with Noctis, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his responsibilities nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were his outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy towards others' grief ]]? ]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's WhatTheHellHero speech as a breath of fresh air, and point out how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Others, however, saw Gladio's comments and behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, arguing that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't actually done any of the things Gladio cited to justify his anger, and that he never implied he would give up on Ignis or his responsibilities nor did he [[FreudianExcuse use Luna's death]] as a justification to [[TookALevelInJerkass become a whiny jerk]], ultimately believing what Gladio is demanding of Noctis is a completely unreasonable AngstWhatAngst reaction]]. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right: it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were his outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy towards others' grief ]]? ]] Those who agreed with Gladio were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw his WhatTheHellHero talk as a breath of fresh air and point how [[spoiler:Gladio [[IronWoobie went through the same losses as Noctis without wallowing in self-pity]]]]. Others, however, saw Gladio's comments as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends, claiming that [[spoiler:Noctis hasn't done anything to justify Gladio's anger : never saying that he would give up on Ignis or his responsibilities nor did he [[TookALevelInJerkass became a jerk about it and used]] [[FreduianExcuse Luna's death as an justification.]] Ultimately beliving that Gladio is just mad that Noctis isn't some emotionless hardass [[AngstWhatAngst who brush off trauma and grief in a nanosecond]]]].Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right : it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

* After Chapter 9's WhamEpisode, [[spoiler:opinions are split regarding Chapter 10 over Noctis and Gladio's argument on the train. Was Noctis valid for still being wrapped up in grieving Luna (and everything else that's happened to them so far), or was Gladio right to call him out for not stepping up and behaving like a king? Were his outbursts towards Noctis the completely justified outrage of the only one in the room with proper priorities at the moment? Or is it nothing more than a [[JerkAss bully throwing a temper tantrum]] and having [[NoSympathy no sympathy towards others' grief ]]? ]] Some people who were getting tired of angsty protagonists (and angsty characters as a whole), particularly from this franchise, saw Gladio's talk as a breath of fresh air. Others, however, saw Gladio's comments and his general behavior throughout this chapter as being insensitive and cruel towards a man who's meant to be one of his closest friends. Then there is the more neutral opinion, whereby neither him or Noctis were really wrong ''or'' right : it came as a natural conclusion from all the stress, that Noctis and the group would process through grief in entirely different ways and at their own pace, and the role Gladio was born and raised into led him to have a certain rigidity regarding what a king should be. The game itself tries to strike a middle ground: [[spoiler:Ignis stands up at the end of the chapter and says that Gladio is being too aggressive with pushing Noctis forward, saying that Noctis is conscious of his duty and will fulfill it but only when he's ready, while telling Noctis that as a king, he needs to accept the consequences and move on. Noctis himself follows by saying they're going to proceed on their journey but not at Ignis's expense, showing that he's not only thinking of his own losses.]] Nevertheless, fans are sharply divided over who was more "right", to the point it's often the deciding factor in one’s opinion towards [[BaseBreakingCharacter Gladio]].

''XV'' is notable for being one of the most polarizing entries in the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series, based almost entirely on the subject of its development issues. There are arguments all over the place concerning the quality of the game and many others, that talking about it in a forum is grounds for a flame war.

** The playable party instance is particularly bad. After Tabata defended having only Noctis be playable, and the fact that this patch took ''two years to come'', some people were left saying that it's too late for him to start fixing his mistakes. [-Then again, Yoshinori Ono did the same with ''VideoGame/StreetFighterV'' and the Arcade Mode... and got ''praised'' for [[AuthorsSavingThrow owning up to the game's flaws]].-]
** On that matter, the plans for further DLC to tell a GoldenEnding... by 2019. On top of the arguments over whether this effort is well spent on this GoldenEnding or if it would've been better going towards filling in some story gaps, there were people questioning if Tabata's work on this game would actually ''survive'' until that time, and if anybody would still be playing by then. Those fears were later confirmed as it was announced in November 2018 that Square Enix had dropped ''three out of the four DLC'', leaving only Episode Ardyn still in the works, and that Hajime Tabata had officially left Square Enix. While Square promised to tell the GoldenEnding via [[TheResolutionWillNotBeTelevised other media]] instead, this left a sour taste in some players' mouths, as ''Final Fantasy XV'' is essentially still semi-incomplete given that Tabata had more plans for it yet.