Follow TV Tropes

Following

History BrokenBase / DuckTales2017

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* A surprising [[AvertedTrope aversion]] seems to be with Lena of all characters: When she was first announced, most people disregarded her and felt she would wanna pander to the "cool kids" crowd... only for the show to reveal that she was actually aiding Magica de Spell (who is her ''aunt''), which quelled most concerns. ''Then'' the show went full fledged with [[spoiler:disregarding most of the "cool kid" aesthetic Lena has and made her a full fledged [[TheWoobie broken and tormented character]] due to [[AbusiveParent borderline controlling and emotional grasp Magica has on her]]]], pretty much shattering the Broken Base around her. Nowadays, she is one of the most popular characters on the show and often regarded as the best newcomer to the show.

to:

* A surprising [[AvertedTrope aversion]] seems to be with Lena of all characters: When she was first announced, most people disregarded her and felt she would wanna pander to the "cool kids" crowd... only for the show to reveal that she was actually aiding Magica de Spell (who is her ''aunt''), which quelled most concerns. ''Then'' the show went full fledged with [[spoiler:disregarding most of the "cool kid" aesthetic Lena has and made her a full fledged [[TheWoobie broken and tormented character]] due to [[AbusiveParent borderline controlling and emotional grasp Magica has on her]]]], pretty much shattering the Broken Base around her. Nowadays, she is one of the most popular characters on the show and often regarded as the best newcomer to the show.show, to the point where it's almost considered to be FandomHeresy to say that you ''don't'' like her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** It also does not help that even through Della is the triplet's mother, Dewey gets the lion's share of the stories revolving around her and what happened to her. Louie and Huey only get involved around the end of season 1 and briefly speak about her in the first episode of Season 2 but that's it. But then again, although Huey and Louie love her and want her in their lives, they seem to accept the fact that she's gone [[spoiler: As far as they know]] and made mistakes much easier than Dewey does, so this may be intentional.

to:

** It also does not help that even through Della is the triplet's mother, Dewey gets the lion's share of the stories revolving around her and what happened to her. Louie and Huey only get involved around the end of season 1 and briefly speak about her in the first episode of Season 2 but that's it. But then again, although Huey and Louie love her and want her in their lives, they seem to accept the fact that she's gone [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:as far as they know]] and made mistakes much easier than Dewey does, so this may be intentional.



* Some fans consider Manny the Headless Man-Horse to be an EnsembleDarkhorse, while others consider him to be a RunningGag that has overstayed its welcome. [[spoiler: This changes after the GrandFinale revealed that Manny is actually be BeastOfTheApocalypse who's also an {{Expy}} of [[WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} Goliath]].]]

to:

* Some fans consider Manny the Headless Man-Horse to be an EnsembleDarkhorse, while others consider him to be a RunningGag that has overstayed its welcome. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This changes after the GrandFinale revealed that Manny is actually be a BeastOfTheApocalypse who's also an {{Expy}} of [[WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} Goliath]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Unfortunately, even the beloved reboot that helped fix the reputation of cartoon reboots among the big three children's networks (Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel/Disney XD) is not immune to very divisive opinions. And they are as followed below.

to:

Unfortunately, even [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017 the beloved reboot reboot]] that helped fix the reputation of cartoon reboots among the big three children's networks (Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel/Disney XD) is not immune to [[BrokenBase very divisive opinions.opinions]]. And they are as followed below.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* What family name Boyd goes by is a subject of ''hot'' debate among fans to the point it can lead to arguments. In one camp are the "Boyd Gearloose" fans who view the Drakes' apparent love for Boyd in negative light and cite Louie's assigning them his parents in his controls as reason to call their relationship fake and claim Boyd should go back to his "real father" Gyro. In the other camp are the "Boyd Drake" fans who view Mr. and Mrs. Drake's love for Boyd as more genuine and point out that, even if Louie assigned the roles, Boyd apparently loved them enough to stay with them even after asserting his identity as a Definitely Real Boy in "Astro B.O.Y.D." while Gyro abandoned Boyd and demonized him upon their reunion to the point of almost killing him for something that ultimately wasn't his fault, behavior that would have some major psychological impacts that Gyro should work hard to make up for.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Per cleanup thread. Aside from this feeling overly one-sided, it admits that most of the fandom loves Donald, so it's not an example. Might be an example of Broken Base because this has more to do with how he handled one situation, but I kind of doubt it.


* Surprisingly enough, Donald Duck himself, mainly due to his treatment of Scrooge. While most of the fanbase loves him for how devoted he is to his nephews, a certain part of it does not like how he handled the fall out of Della's disappearance. From laying all the blame for the Spear of Selene at Scrooge's feet and refusing to acknowledge that Della had a choice. It also does not help that he deliberately kept Scrooge and the triplets apart for a decade, and never even told the triplets that Scrooge was their Uncle. In fact, he never would have told them if he had not been forced to. There's also fact that despite knowing how attached the triplets had become to Scrooge, Webby, and the others, he was still planning on forcing the boys to move back to the marina during the entirety of Season 1. Others fans don't like that, even though it is understandable, Donald essentially kept the triplets in a Gilded Cage for 10 years and never really let them do anything. They say it is not fair to the boys. This is aggravated by the fact that a large portion of the fandom refuses to acknowledge that Donald has any faults, and did use Scrooge as sort of a scapegoat once Della disappeared.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[MarySue too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.

to:

* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[MarySue too good for everything]], everything, stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[MarySue too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.

to:

* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her her [[MarySue too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[ MarySue/too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.

to:

* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[ MarySue/too [[MarySue too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[ MarySue too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.

to:

* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[ MarySue too MarySue/too good for everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her too good for everything, stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.

to:

* Webby. While the consensus among the fanbase is that the new version of the character is a vast improvement, some people think that the show goes too far in making her proactive and made her [[ MarySue too good for everything, everything]], stealing a lot of spotlight from the triplets. It doesn't help that the unfortunate reshuffling of the episodes early on gave her a lot of screen time, whereas things would have been more balanced if they had aired in the intended order. The fact that the Magica arc that's been one of the main plotlines for the first season has Webby as the primary focus character in each episode related to it thus far while the rest of the cast have all only had minor roles overall in it, including Scrooge[[note]]despite his No. 1 Dime still being what Magica wants to obtain, Scrooge himself hasn't played too big a part; being absent in the first two episodes Magica appears in and having mostly unrelated supporting roles for B-plots in the next two[[/note]], also hasn't helped the case for people who view her as the latter. In morally grey conflicts such as the Della incident and other personal [=McDuck=]-Duck family matters, the writers also have a tendency to take Webby's side when she joins the argument. In fact, the few times that the writers don't side with Dewey on controversial matters, Webby is the one that is usually portrayed as being in the right.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Quite a few things about the show are divisive.

to:

Quite a few things about Unfortunately, even the show beloved reboot that helped fix the reputation of cartoon reboots among the big three children's networks (Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel/Disney XD) is not immune to very divisive opinions. And they are divisive.as followed below.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Now a disambiguation. Can't tell if replacements applicable.


* Mark Beaks. He's either a funny look at modern business tycoons who's a surprisingly clever, worthwhile new villain, or an unfunny attempt to [[WereStillRelevantDammit keep the franchise relevant]] and lacking as a new member of the RoguesGallery due to his rather [[HarmlessVillain harmless nature]] compared to the other members. This was reduced somewhat after "Who Is Gizmoduck?" and "The Dangerous Chemistry of Gandra Dee", where he becomes a NotSoHarmlessVillain and a fitting nemesis for Fenton/Gizmoduck, plus his final appearance in the series showing that his own desperation for relevancy was an intentional part of his character.

to:

* Mark Beaks. He's either a funny look at modern business tycoons who's a surprisingly clever, worthwhile new villain, or an unfunny attempt to [[WereStillRelevantDammit keep the franchise relevant]] relevant and lacking as a new member of the RoguesGallery due to his rather [[HarmlessVillain harmless nature]] compared to the other members. This was reduced somewhat after "Who Is Gizmoduck?" and "The Dangerous Chemistry of Gandra Dee", where he becomes a NotSoHarmlessVillain and a fitting nemesis for Fenton/Gizmoduck, plus his final appearance in the series showing that his own desperation for relevancy was an intentional part of his character.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* A surprising [[AvertedTrope aversion]] seems to be with Lena of all characters: When she was first announced, most people disregarded her and felt she would wanna pander to the "cool kids" crowd... only for the show to reveal that she was actually aiding Magical de Spell and was her ''aunt'', which quelled most concerns. ''Then'' the show went full fledged with [[spoiler:disregarding most of the "cool kid" aesthetic Lena has and made her a full fledged [[TheWoobie broken and tormented character]] due to [[AbusiveParent borderline controlling and emotional grasp Magica has on her]]]], pretty much shattering the Broken Base around her. Nowadays, she is one of the most popular characters on the show and often regarded as the best newcomer to the show.

to:

* A surprising [[AvertedTrope aversion]] seems to be with Lena of all characters: When she was first announced, most people disregarded her and felt she would wanna pander to the "cool kids" crowd... only for the show to reveal that she was actually aiding Magical Magica de Spell and was (who is her ''aunt'', ''aunt''), which quelled most concerns. ''Then'' the show went full fledged with [[spoiler:disregarding most of the "cool kid" aesthetic Lena has and made her a full fledged [[TheWoobie broken and tormented character]] due to [[AbusiveParent borderline controlling and emotional grasp Magica has on her]]]], pretty much shattering the Broken Base around her. Nowadays, she is one of the most popular characters on the show and often regarded as the best newcomer to the show.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Fans have mixed feelings on the increasing number of crossovers with other characters from WesternAnimation/TheDisneyAfternoon in Season 2 and Season 3. One the one hand, many love seeing the characters again after nearly three decades and enjoy the ''[=DuckTales=]'' characters interacting with them for the first time in fiction. Others feel the characters take too much focus away from the ''[=DuckTales=]'' characters and take away opportunities for the show to create storylines based on the original series and classic comic books.

Top