History BrokenAesop / ComicBooks

17th Jan '18 9:31:49 AM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a TragicVillain, but ended the story by saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And the reason said brother was murdered by gangsters was that he was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police. So we have a guy saying it's wrong to take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his brother who also did the exact same thing on a regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.

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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a TragicVillain, but ended the story by saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And the reason said brother was murdered by gangsters was that he was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police. So we have a guy saying it's wrong to take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his brother who also did the exact same thing on a regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example. And that's not the only Hangman story with a tragic figure as a villain and the same moral at the end, almost seeming to say that vigilante justice is only breaking the law if you do it for selfish reasons.
20th Nov '17 5:13:43 PM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a TragicVillian, but ended the story by saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And the reason said brother was murdered by gangsters was that he was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police. So we have a guy saying it's wrong to take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his brother who also did the exact same thing on a regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.

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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a TragicVillian, TragicVillain, but ended the story by saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And the reason said brother was murdered by gangsters was that he was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police. So we have a guy saying it's wrong to take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his brother who also did the exact same thing on a regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.
20th Nov '17 5:06:55 PM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but ended the story saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And the reason said brother was murdered by gangsters was that he was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police. So we have a guy saying it's wrong to take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his brother who also did the exact same thing on a regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.

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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, TragicVillian, but ended the story by saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And the reason said brother was murdered by gangsters was that he was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police. So we have a guy saying it's wrong to take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his brother who also did the exact same thing on a regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.
7th Oct '17 12:17:02 PM MBG
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** On the other side of the coin, a common moral is to go against the "evil WellIntentionedExtremist" who only cares about advancing mutants and protecting mutants, naming it JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope to mutant supremacy, particularly with post-Schism Cyclops. Thing is, in the Marvel comic books themselves, groups prioritizing the rights of other minorities are rarely portrayed as supremacists, and characters prioritizing their own loved ones (a group infinitely smaller than mutants) are frequently portrayed positively.

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** On the other side of the coin, a common moral is to go against the "evil WellIntentionedExtremist" who only cares about advancing mutants and protecting mutants, mutants rather than supporting all humans, naming it JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope to mutant supremacy, particularly with post-Schism Cyclops. Thing is, in the Marvel comic books themselves, groups prioritizing the rights of other minorities are rarely portrayed as supremacists, and characters prioritizing their own loved ones (a group infinitely smaller than mutants) are frequently portrayed positively. And even then, the idea that mutants ''don't'' need special attention or protection looks at best naive and at worst incredibly dismissive, considering that the government routinely attempts genocide on them. Yes, all life is sacred, but at least one group that ''focuses'' on shutting down the registration programs is hardly evil, especially since other superhero teams only seem to get involved in such affairs in crossovers or when it threatens them.
4th Oct '17 8:13:12 AM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but ended the story saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And not only that but the reason said brother was killed was he had been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police, and feeling a need to carry on his legacy had been a big part of the reason the Hangman felt to don a costume and fight crime. That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.

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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but ended the story saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And not only that but the reason said brother was killed murdered by gangsters was that he had been was a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who also spent his career on the run from the police, and feeling police. So we have a need guy saying it's wrong to carry take the law into your own hands, who not only does exactly that on a regular basis, he does it because he inherited the mission from his legacy had been a big part of brother who also did the reason the Hangman felt to don exact same thing on a costume and fight crime.regular basis (and was specifically a wanted man). That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.
1st Oct '17 3:57:44 PM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but ended the story saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And not only that but said brother had been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police, and feeling a need to carry on his legacy had been a big part of the reason the Hangman felt to don a costume and fight crime. That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.

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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but ended the story saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. And not only that but the reason said brother was killed was he had been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police, and feeling a need to carry on his legacy had been a big part of the reason the Hangman felt to don a costume and fight crime. That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.
1st Oct '17 3:31:13 PM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" This coming from a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman. Yeah. And not just a masked vigilante, a guy who became a masked vigilante to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. Said brother having been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police.

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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but ended the story saying "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" This coming from Said hero, mind, is a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman. Yeah. And not just a masked vigilante, a guy who became a masked vigilante Hangman, and he adopted the identity to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. Said And not only that but said brother having had been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police.police, and feeling a need to carry on his legacy had been a big part of the reason the Hangman felt to don a costume and fight crime. That's not an easy moral for superheroes at the best of times, but it's hard to think of a more hypocritical example.
1st Oct '17 5:42:18 AM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" This coming from a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman. Yeah. And not just a masked vigilante, a guy who became a masked vigilante to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. Said brother having been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police.


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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" This coming from a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman. Yeah. And not just a masked vigilante, a guy who became a masked vigilante to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. Said brother having been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police.
1st Oct '17 5:40:23 AM starofjusticev21
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* From way back in the Golden Age we had ''Pep Comics #23'' where one story's villain was "the World's Ugliest Man," a sideshow freak who couldn't take the humiliation anymore and set out to murder handsome men. The hero acknowledged he was a tragic figure, but "no matter what the reason, you can't take the law into your own hands!" This coming from a masked vigilante who called himself the Hangman. Yeah. And not just a masked vigilante, a guy who became a masked vigilante to avenge his brother who'd been killed by gangsters. Said brother having been a masked vigilante himself, the Comet, who spent his career on the run from the police.
28th Jul '17 6:08:11 PM MagBas
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** On the other side of the coin, a common moral is to go against the "evil WellIntentionedExtremist" who only cares about advancing mutants and protecting mutants, naming it JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope to mutant supremacy, particularly with post-Schism Cyclops. Thing is, it's ''absolutely'' understandable that mutants should have someone whose primary goal is their protection and advancement. Plenty of organizations in real life exist to support minority groups, because minority groups tend to have very particular issues that warrant special attention and a habit of being ignored or harmed by supposedly egalitarian organizations, and mutants have both. One can't say that prioritizing mutants is evil, and then next week have the government send its thirteenth wave of genocidal robots after them.

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** On the other side of the coin, a common moral is to go against the "evil WellIntentionedExtremist" who only cares about advancing mutants and protecting mutants, naming it JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope to mutant supremacy, particularly with post-Schism Cyclops. Thing is, it's ''absolutely'' understandable that mutants should have someone whose primary goal is their protection and advancement. Plenty of organizations in real life exist to support minority groups, because minority the Marvel comic books themselves, groups tend to have very particular issues that warrant special attention and a habit of being ignored or harmed by supposedly egalitarian organizations, and mutants have both. One can't say that prioritizing mutants is evil, the rights of other minorities are rarely portrayed as supremacists, and then next week have the government send its thirteenth wave of genocidal robots after them.characters prioritizing their own loved ones (a group infinitely smaller than mutants) are frequently portrayed positively.
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