History BatmanGambit / Literature

5th Nov '16 6:17:13 AM WillBGood
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* Creator/GKChesterton's Father Brown story "The Sins of Prince Saradine": Saradine has two enemies. One is the son of a man he killed, who lacks legal proof and thus is hunting Saradine to kill him personally. The other is the Prince's twin brother, who has proof of the murder and is using it for blackmail. He then gives everything he has to the blackmailer, and informs the other of his location. The avenger kills the blackmailer and willingly accepts execution.

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* Creator/GKChesterton's Father Brown story "The Sins of Prince Saradine": Saradine has two enemies. One is the son of a man he killed, who lacks legal proof and thus is hunting Saradine to kill him personally. The other is the Prince's twin brother, who has proof of the murder and is using it for blackmail. He then gives everything he has to the blackmailer, and informs the other of his location. The avenger kills the blackmailer and willingly accepts execution.execution thinking he's revenged himself on Saradine.
5th Nov '16 6:16:10 AM WillBGood
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* In LordOTheNightSky Crane does this alot, as befits a secret agent. Most notable when he plays up disbelieving Teds revelation on what the Smoking Mirror Cult is up too, in order to get a better and more convincing explanation for analysts to confirm it.

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* In LordOTheNightSky ''Literature/LordOfTheNightSky'' Crane does this alot, a lot, as befits a secret agent. Most notable when he plays up disbelieving Teds revelation on what the Smoking Mirror Cult is up too, in order to get a better and more convincing explanation for analysts to confirm it.
14th Sep '16 1:28:22 AM PaulA
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** Subverted at the end of ''Shadow Puppets'': the super-intelligent Bean correctly intuits that Achilles has him marked down for a Batman Gambit, and [[spoiler:asks himself what he (Bean) ''wouldn't'' be likely to do. The answer: ignore every negotiating ploy of Achilles's, walk up to him, and [[MundaneSolution pop a cap in him]] -- which he does.]]

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** Subverted at the end of ''Shadow Puppets'': ''Literature/ShadowPuppets'': the super-intelligent Bean correctly intuits that Achilles has him marked down for a Batman Gambit, and [[spoiler:asks himself what he (Bean) ''wouldn't'' be likely to do. The answer: ignore every negotiating ploy of Achilles's, walk up to him, and [[MundaneSolution pop a cap in him]] -- which he does.]]
12th Aug '16 6:36:06 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}:

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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}:''Franchise/{{Halo}}'':
12th Aug '16 6:34:53 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Literature/HaloShadowOfIntent'', the Prelate wishes to kill his foe the Half-Jaw, but his light starship is no match for his opponent's enormous assault carrier. So the Prelate hatches a plan to even the odds step by step. First his starship attacks several peaceful colonies, so Half-Jaw will be enraged and come at him guns blazing. Next he lures the assault carrier to battle at a planet with an unstable star, with its magnetic storm wreaking havoc on the carrier's shields and weapons. Despite this, the Half-Jaw's ship still has the upper hand, [[spoiler:but the Prelate has just enough an opening to get his ship close so he and his soldiers can board the carrier and and try to hijack it for themselves. Unfortunately for the Prelate, the carrier's defenders successfully wipe out his entire force]].

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* ** In ''Literature/HaloShadowOfIntent'', the Prelate wishes to kill his foe the Half-Jaw, but his light starship is no match for his opponent's enormous assault carrier. So the Prelate hatches a plan to even the odds step by step. First his starship attacks several peaceful colonies, so Half-Jaw will be enraged and come at him guns blazing. Next he lures the assault carrier to battle at a planet with an unstable star, with its magnetic storm wreaking havoc on the carrier's shields and weapons. Despite this, the Half-Jaw's ship still has the upper hand, [[spoiler:but the Prelate has just enough an opening to get his ship close so he and his soldiers can board the carrier and and try to hijack it for themselves. Unfortunately for the Prelate, the carrier's defenders successfully wipe out his entire force]].
12th Aug '16 6:34:46 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}: Ghosts of Onyx'' has some insurgents deliberately letting ONI learn of their nuclear weapons stockpile so that they can set a trap. It almost works too, if not for [[spoiler: the insurgents not knowing about Kurt's near-prescience.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}: Ghosts of Onyx'' ''Franchise/{{Halo}}:
** ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx''
has some insurgents deliberately letting ONI learn of their nuclear weapons stockpile so that they can set a trap. trap for the Spartans. It almost works too, if not for [[spoiler: the insurgents not knowing about Kurt's near-prescience.]]near-prescience]].
* In ''Literature/HaloShadowOfIntent'', the Prelate wishes to kill his foe the Half-Jaw, but his light starship is no match for his opponent's enormous assault carrier. So the Prelate hatches a plan to even the odds step by step. First his starship attacks several peaceful colonies, so Half-Jaw will be enraged and come at him guns blazing. Next he lures the assault carrier to battle at a planet with an unstable star, with its magnetic storm wreaking havoc on the carrier's shields and weapons. Despite this, the Half-Jaw's ship still has the upper hand, [[spoiler:but the Prelate has just enough an opening to get his ship close so he and his soldiers can board the carrier and and try to hijack it for themselves. Unfortunately for the Prelate, the carrier's defenders successfully wipe out his entire force]].



* In ''Literature/HaloShadowOfIntent'', the Prelate wishes to kill his foe the Half-Jaw, but his light starship is no match for his opponent's enormous assault carrier. So the Prelate hatches a plan to even the odds step by step. First his starship attacks several peaceful colonies, so Half-Jaw will be enraged and come at him guns blazing. Next he lures the assault carrier to battle at a planet with an unstable star, with its magnetic storm wreaking havoc on the carrier's shields and weapons. Despite this, the Half-Jaw's ship still has the upper hand, [[spoiler:but the Prelate has just enough an opening to get his ship close so he and his soldiers can board the carrier and hijack it for themselves.]]
11th Aug '16 8:21:19 PM PaulA
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::He furthermore learned from her that making all paths lead to victory only works so long as only one of those paths is taken, convincing him to use his strategy of only picking one stratagem at a time while making everyone believe that he has elaborate interlocking plans.

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::He :::He furthermore learned from her that making all paths lead to victory only works so long as only one of those paths is taken, convincing him to use his strategy of only picking one stratagem at a time while making everyone believe that he has elaborate interlocking plans.
11th Aug '16 8:20:52 PM PaulA
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* Steven Brust's ''[[Literature/{{Dragaera}} Jhereg]]'' has an unusual take on this; the villain sets up a careful scheme designed to get the protagonist to ''[[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning kill him]]'', under circumstances which will start a bloody war between two noble houses he hates.
** Considering that ''Literature/{{Dragaera}}'' has [[PlanetOfHats an entire Great House]] of planners in the Yendi, this also gets used in several other books. Particularly notable are ''Yendi'' itself, where the Sorceress in Green and Sethra the Younger have been screwing with the internal politics of House Dragon to make sure the latter becomes Warlord when the new Emperor/Empress takes over, and ''Phoenix'', where ''the Goddess Verra'' uses Vlad in a plot to try to [[spoiler:calm the Teckla uprisings by starting a war with another country to get them to unite against a common enemy]]. The latter didn't work out very well.
* Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]] usually starts out with one of these, then rapidly devolves into {{Indy Ploy}}s. What makes him good is his amazing ability to convince people that he meant to do that.

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* Steven Brust's ''[[Literature/{{Dragaera}} Jhereg]]'' ''Literature/{{Dragaera}}'' novels:
** ''Literature/{{Jhereg}}''
has an unusual take on this; the villain sets up a careful scheme designed to get the protagonist to ''[[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning kill him]]'', under circumstances which will start a bloody war between two noble houses he hates.
** Considering that ''Literature/{{Dragaera}}'' Dragaera has [[PlanetOfHats an entire Great House]] of planners in the Yendi, this also gets used in several other books. Particularly notable are ''Yendi'' ''Literature/{{Yendi}}'' itself, where the Sorceress in Green and Sethra the Younger have been screwing with the internal politics of House Dragon to make sure the latter becomes Warlord when the new Emperor/Empress takes over, and ''Phoenix'', where ''the Goddess Verra'' uses Vlad in a plot to try to [[spoiler:calm the Teckla uprisings by starting a war with another country to get them to unite against a common enemy]]. The latter didn't work out very well.
* Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
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Miles Vorkosigan]] Vorkosigan usually starts out with one of these, then rapidly devolves into {{Indy Ploy}}s. What makes him good is his amazing ability to convince people that he meant to do that.



*** Miles learned the lesson from an older, female counterpart Cavilo in ''The Vor Game''.
---->'''Cavilo:''' The key to strategy... is not to choose a path to victory, but to choose so that '''all''' paths lead to a victory.
*** He furthermore learned from her that making all paths lead to victory only works so long as only one of those paths is taken, convincing him to use his strategy of only picking one stratagem at a time while making everyone believe that he has elaborate interlocking plans.

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*** ** Miles learned the lesson from an older, female counterpart Cavilo in ''The Vor Game''.
---->'''Cavilo:'''
''Literature/TheVorGame''.
--->'''Cavilo:'''
The key to strategy... is not to choose a path to victory, but to choose so that '''all''' paths lead to a victory.
*** He ::He furthermore learned from her that making all paths lead to victory only works so long as only one of those paths is taken, convincing him to use his strategy of only picking one stratagem at a time while making everyone believe that he has elaborate interlocking plans.
29th Mar '16 1:36:53 PM Milarqui
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* In ''Literature/ReadyPlayerOne'', main character [[TheHero Wade "Parzival"]] has to find a way to knock out the magical shield used by [[BigBad IOI]] to prevent passage into the castle that holds the gate to the Egg. Said shield is the most powerful in the story of OASIS, and pretty much impossible to destroy from the outside. [[spoiler:He uses some hacking to fake having a debt with IOI, who always force their debtors into indentured service. Once there, he uses a backdoor into IOI's intranet to give a supply bot orders to bring the most powerful bomb in inventory as close as possible to the wizard holding the shield up and detonate it at a certain time. Then, he calls every gunter in the game to help, correctly assuming that they would prefer [[OneOfUs his]] victory to [[CorruptCorporateExecutive IOI]]'s. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome It works.]]]]
30th Jan '16 7:19:46 AM ReaderAt2046
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* Creator/GKChesterton's Father Brown story "The Sins of Prince Saradine": Saradine has two enemies, one a blackmailer, and the other seeking revenge. He then gives everything he has to the blackmailer, and informs the other of his location. The avenger kills the blackmailer and willingly accepts execution.

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* Creator/GKChesterton's Father Brown story "The Sins of Prince Saradine": Saradine has two enemies, one enemies. One is the son of a blackmailer, man he killed, who lacks legal proof and the thus is hunting Saradine to kill him personally. The other seeking revenge.is the Prince's twin brother, who has proof of the murder and is using it for blackmail. He then gives everything he has to the blackmailer, and informs the other of his location. The avenger kills the blackmailer and willingly accepts execution.
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