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10th Sep '16 3:15:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/BlackMoonChronicles'': Murata, unlike most of his allies, does not have any inherent magical powers (Wismerhill, Hellaynnea) or incredibly size and strength (Ghorghor). He's just a very well-trained human {{Samurai}}.
9th Sep '16 4:14:35 AM Tron80
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* The Franchise/{{Batman}} mythos tends to collect these. Most notably, of course, being [[TropeCodifier Batman]] himself. He fills this role when he's required to be in an ensemble. Despite having no inherent superpowers, he's earned a spot in the inner circle of the ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'', fighting alongside the likes of {{Superman}} courtesy of a [[TheSmartGuy steel-trap intellect]] combined with a bit of a mean streak that means he can consider plans other members can't, [[TheStrategist and consider them]] ''[[TheStrategist well]]''. Batman has the proven ability to develop the means to disable each of his fellow Leaguers -- proven when those plans were stolen by villains and used to great effect.

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* The Franchise/{{Batman}} mythos tends to collect these. Most notably, of course, being [[TropeCodifier Batman]] himself. He fills this role when he's required to be in an ensemble. Despite having no inherent superpowers, he's earned a spot in the inner circle of the ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'', fighting alongside the likes of {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} courtesy of a [[TheSmartGuy steel-trap intellect]] combined with a bit of a mean streak that means he can consider plans other members can't, [[TheStrategist and consider them]] ''[[TheStrategist well]]''. Batman has the proven ability to develop the means to disable each of his fellow Leaguers -- proven when those plans were stolen by villains and used to great effect.



* Let's not forget the '''''original''''' Nightwing, who was {{Superman}} BroughtDownToNormal. In fact, in every instance Supes has no powers (often from being under a red sun), he shows off his own badassery without needing his powers - one only needs to see the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' episode "Hereafter", in which a depowered Superman single-handedly takes over a dire wolf pack, with just a sword, then wears the wolfpack's leader's hide as a ''cloak''.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}'' Barbara Gordon is a baseline human. However she is a skilled fighter with an eidetic memory and one of the first Batman's protegees.
** In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', ''Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}'' -a non-powered human- manages to keep the Justice Society out of Gotham, and she even came up with a way to neutralize ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' without damaging her.
* Let's not forget the '''''original''''' Nightwing, who was {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} BroughtDownToNormal. In fact, in every instance Supes has no powers (often from being under a red sun), he shows off his own badassery without needing his powers - one only needs to see the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' episode "Hereafter", in which a depowered Superman single-handedly takes over a dire wolf pack, with just a sword, then wears the wolfpack's leader's hide as a ''cloak''.



* ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' is usually a virtual PhysicalGod. However, when she is depowered, her enemies find out two facts about her: she practices some style of Kryptonian martial arts (Torquasm Rao and Torquasm Vo in the pre-Crisis universe; Klurkor in the post-Crisis continuity); and post-Crisis Kara was trained by both Batman ''and'' Wonder Woman.



** ComicBook/TheJoker is essentially this. In most portrayals, he doesn't actually have any powers, but he's still fully capable of going toe-to-toe with any superhero in Franchise/TheDCU, including {{Superman}} and WonderWoman, and often will come very close to beating them. Not to mention the fact that he has the single highest body count of any villain in the DC Universe (from single acts, not blowing up cities or planets).

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** ComicBook/TheJoker is essentially this. In most portrayals, he doesn't actually have any powers, but he's still fully capable of going toe-to-toe with any superhero in Franchise/TheDCU, including {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} and WonderWoman, and often will come very close to beating them. Not to mention the fact that he has the single highest body count of any villain in the DC Universe (from single acts, not blowing up cities or planets).



* Played with in the case of Clark Kent. Yeah, sure, he's actually {{Superman}}, but to the world at large Clark Kent is just a mild mannered reporter who ''dares'' to muckrake around Lexcorp and Intergang. In the One Year Later arc, Clark actually loses his powers for a period of time and ''still'' manages to infiltrate Lex's operations, Intergang, and anywhere else you'd expect an intrepid investigative reporter to go. And, according to Perry White, is a BETTER reporter that year than he's ever been. Apparently Clark Kent is just plain badass.

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* Played with in the case of Clark Kent. Yeah, sure, he's actually {{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Superman}}, but to the world at large Clark Kent is just a mild mannered reporter who ''dares'' to muckrake around Lexcorp and Intergang. In the One Year Later arc, Clark actually loses his powers for a period of time and ''still'' manages to infiltrate Lex's operations, Intergang, and anywhere else you'd expect an intrepid investigative reporter to go. And, according to Perry White, is a BETTER reporter that year than he's ever been. Apparently Clark Kent is just plain badass.
7th Aug '16 10:12:55 AM nombretomado
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** ComicBook/TheJoker is essentially this. In most portrayals, he doesn't actually have any powers, but he's still fully capable of going toe-to-toe with any superhero in TheDCU, including {{Superman}} and WonderWoman, and often will come very close to beating them. Not to mention the fact that he has the single highest body count of any villain in the DC Universe (from single acts, not blowing up cities or planets).

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** ComicBook/TheJoker is essentially this. In most portrayals, he doesn't actually have any powers, but he's still fully capable of going toe-to-toe with any superhero in TheDCU, Franchise/TheDCU, including {{Superman}} and WonderWoman, and often will come very close to beating them. Not to mention the fact that he has the single highest body count of any villain in the DC Universe (from single acts, not blowing up cities or planets).
27th Jul '16 4:16:11 AM Kakai
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* Non-Sand Masters in ''ComicBook/WhiteSand'' are usually this.
** Baon is Khriss' bodyguard and capable of beating up, shooting or otherwise incapacitating an entire strike team of Kerztian warrior-priests - something the entire diem of Sand Masters had problems with.
** Aarik, MuggleBestFriend to Kenton, can take down {{Elite Mook}}s with two swipes of his swords, and that's when he's not trying very hard.
16th Jun '16 11:12:11 AM narm00
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** Batman One Million (an future superhero from the 853rd century) is a PlayedWith example. He is a BadassNormal... but by the standards of his time. After so many centuries though, human evolution has taken some impressive leaps and thus what a normal human can achieve in that era is far beeyond what a normal human can achieve in the 21st century. He has physical abilities somewhere between ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Superman]], low-level psychic powers and an IQ in excess of 200. Plus he has nanotechnology PowerArmour.

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** Batman One Million (an (a future superhero from the 853rd century) is a PlayedWith example. He is a BadassNormal... but by the standards of his time. After so many centuries though, centuries, human evolution has taken some impressive leaps and thus what a normal human can achieve in that era is far beeyond what a normal human can achieve in the 21st century. He has physical abilities somewhere between ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Superman]], low-level psychic powers and an IQ in excess of 200. Plus he has nanotechnology PowerArmour.



* [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]] (the 3rd ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}). Through physical conditioning alone, she can perfectly read body language and anticipate her opponent's next move. She's been trained by Batman, and is arguably a superior fighter, having beaten the best martial artist in the DC Universe, Lady Shiva.

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* [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]] (the 3rd (sometime ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}). Through physical conditioning alone, she can perfectly read body language and anticipate her opponent's next move. She's been trained by Batman, and is arguably a superior fighter, having beaten the best martial artist in the DC Universe, Lady Shiva.



** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is essentially this. In most portrayals, he doesn't actually have any powers, but he's still fully capable of going toe-to-toe with any superhero in TheDCU, including {{Superman}} and WonderWoman, and often will come very close to beating them. Not to mention the fact that he has the single highest body count of any villain in the DC Universe (from single acts, not blowing up cities or planets).

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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is essentially this. In most portrayals, he doesn't actually have any powers, but he's still fully capable of going toe-to-toe with any superhero in TheDCU, including {{Superman}} and WonderWoman, and often will come very close to beating them. Not to mention the fact that he has the single highest body count of any villain in the DC Universe (from single acts, not blowing up cities or planets).



** The Penguin, a short, stub of a man and one of the most dangerous mob bosses in Gotham City's underworld. He's often triumphed over Batman with just a trick umbrella.

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** The Penguin, a short, short stub of a man and one of the most dangerous mob bosses in Gotham City's underworld. He's often triumphed over Batman with just a trick umbrella.







* Amanda Waller, who in a universe filled with aliens, gods and monsters, is still one of the most terrifying beings alive, capable of staring down the god-damn Batman himself. She's not even remotely afraid of Lex Luthor. And she routinely gets dangerous super-criminals to do as she say.

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* Amanda Waller, who in a universe filled with aliens, gods and monsters, is still one of the most terrifying beings alive, capable of staring down the god-damn Batman himself. She's not even remotely afraid of Lex Luthor. And she routinely gets [[ComicBook/SuicideSquad dangerous super-criminals super-criminals]] to do as she say.says.



* ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}} -- an intelligence officer who fights crime with nothing but two staves and the flexibility of a gymnast. She later got upgraded to EmpoweredBadassNormal (that happens alot in Marvel).


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* ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}} -- an intelligence officer who fights crime with nothing but two staves and the flexibility of a gymnast. She later got upgraded to EmpoweredBadassNormal (that happens alot in Marvel).
25th May '16 7:06:38 PM DVB
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** Batman One Million (an future superhero from the 853rd century) is a subversion- he has no superpowers exactly, which makes him "normal", but normal by distant future standards, where human evolution has taken some impressive leaps. This gives him physical abilities somewhere between ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Superman]], low-level psychic powers and an IQ in excess of 200. Plus he has nanotechnology PowerArmour.

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** Batman One Million (an future superhero from the 853rd century) is a subversion- he has no superpowers exactly, which makes him "normal", PlayedWith example. He is a BadassNormal... but normal by distant future standards, where the standards of his time. After so many centuries though, human evolution has taken some impressive leaps. This gives him leaps and thus what a normal human can achieve in that era is far beeyond what a normal human can achieve in the 21st century. He has physical abilities somewhere between ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Superman]], low-level psychic powers and an IQ in excess of 200. Plus he has nanotechnology PowerArmour.
7th Apr '16 6:47:24 AM Silverblade2
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* Most of the heroes in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' lack superpowers (the exception would be Dr. Manhattan) and yet are extraordinarily skilled fighters.
** Manhattan is actually an inversion.

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* Most of the heroes Inverted in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' lack superpowers (the exception would be where Dr. Manhattan) and yet are extraordinarily skilled fighters.
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Manhattan is actually an inversion.the only superhero with super powers.
27th Mar '16 7:21:04 PM ablackraptor
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* In the MarvelUniverse, ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} has no powers, just a bow. And, when alien invaders summon a zombie army to destroy the universe, guess who is one of the only two people standing at the end of it. Go on, guess. Not bad for "an orphan raised by carnies, fighting with a stick and a string from the paleolithic era."

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* In the MarvelUniverse, ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}, Clint Barton, has no powers, just a bow.bow, and an arsenal of customized trick arrows (the majority of which he's made himself, albeit often appropriating other people's tech and inventions). And, when alien invaders summon a zombie army to destroy the universe, guess who is one of the only two people standing at the end of it. Go on, guess. Not bad for "an orphan raised by carnies, fighting with a stick and a string from the paleolithic era."" This has also been explored a few times with his character, as at multiple times villains have dismissed him as the weakest of the Avengers only to be proven wrong, while Clint repeatedly has been shown feeling very insecure about his place among the World's mightiest



** Hawkeye (Barton) and Hawkeye (Bishop) actually deconstruct this in the Fraction-penned ongoing series; repeatedly they're shown wiping the floor with large groups of mooks, and when together take on ''multiple'' crime syndicates' forces to recover a tape supposedly showing the former assassinating a terrorist leader, but at the same time they end their adventures bruised, bandaged, sometimes hospitalized, and Barton comments on having a concussion a few times.



* Most members of ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} tend to be this. Nick Fury's UltimateMarvel version (his mainstream version isn't an example) is based on (and in the Film/IronMan films, portrayed by) Creator/SamuelLJackson.

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* Most members of ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} tend to be this. Nick Fury's Fury has often played with this as, for the most part, he ''is'' an example, if not for the fact he doesn't age thanks to ingesting the Infinity Formula. His UltimateMarvel version (his mainstream version isn't an example) is version, based on (and in the Film/IronMan films, [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse films]], portrayed by) Creator/SamuelLJackson.Creator/SamuelLJackson, was this ''at first'' until it was revealed he was the subject of a prison experiment that granted him mild superhuman abilities beyond not aging.



* Comicbook/BlackWidow: "world class athlete and gymnast, expert martial artist (including karate, judo, aikido, savate, various styles of kung fu, and boxing), markswoman, and weapons specialist as well as having extensive espionage training. She is also an accomplished ballerina." says Dr Wiki.

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* Comicbook/BlackWidow: "world class athlete and gymnast, expert martial artist (including karate, judo, aikido, savate, various styles of kung fu, and boxing), markswoman, and weapons specialist as well as having extensive espionage training. She is also an accomplished ballerina." says Dr Wiki. Similar to Nick Fury, she's technically an EmpoweredBadassNormal now as she took a formula that stopped her aging and kept her in peak-level health back when she was a Russian spy.






** Most of Captain America's enemies also lack any explicit superpowers, and are better examples of the trope than he is. {{Archenemy}} The ComicBook/RedSkull, [[TheDragon Crossbones]], [[DaddysLittleVillain Sin]], [[DarkActionGirl Viper]], [[NaziNobleman Barons]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] and [[MasterSwordsman Helmut]] [[AristocratsAreEvil Zemo]], and yes, [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Batroc the Leaper]] and Flag-Smasher all make a living fighting against a {{super soldier}} and his superpowered allies, with nothing more than their physical abilities.

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** Most of Captain America's enemies also lack any explicit superpowers, and are better examples of the trope than he is. {{Archenemy}} The ComicBook/RedSkull, [[TheDragon Crossbones]], [[DaddysLittleVillain Sin]], [[DarkActionGirl Viper]], [[NaziNobleman Barons]] [[MadScientist Heinrich]] and [[MasterSwordsman Helmut]] [[AristocratsAreEvil Zemo]], and yes, [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Batroc the Leaper]] Leaper and Flag-Smasher all make a living fighting against a {{super soldier}} and his superpowered allies, with nothing more than their physical abilities.


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* David Alleyne, AKA Prodigy of the NewXMen and YoungAvengers, is in a similar boat as Storm and Rictor: Used to be a mutant, but isn't any more. His power when he was a mutant though was to absorb the skills, talents, and experiences of people around him, and after he lost his powers he had all that absorbed knowledge returned to him. Now, he has the combined fighting prowess, intellect, [[MundaneUtility musical tastes]], and mastery of the entirety of the X-Men, including fields ranging from parkour and close-quarters-combat to magical incantations and stances (without the ability to actually ''perform'' said magic). Thanks to this also giving him the sexual experiences of both men and women allowing him to explore his sexuality without actually doing anything, he realized he was bi, so he's also now a BadassBisexual too.
25th Mar '16 4:22:43 PM Ramidel
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* Similarly, Marvel Comics' [[Comicbook/TheKingpin Kingpin]] uses both his powerful brains and more powerful brawn to keep the costumed villains in their place, and screw over the heroes. Oddly enough, he started off as a Spider-Man villain where it was specifically stated that he had superstrength, the origin of which, was a mystery. It was to the point where it was all but stated he was stronger than Spidey who can lift roughly 10 tons. Once he shifted over to a Daredevil villain, he had a {{Retcon}}, explaining that he was just a really strong human. After that, whenever Kingpin showed up in Spidey comics, he curiously turned into a master-manipulator type instead of the brawler he once was.

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* Similarly, Marvel Comics' [[Comicbook/TheKingpin Kingpin]] uses both his powerful brains and more powerful brawn to keep the costumed villains in their place, and screw over the heroes.
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Oddly enough, he started off as a Spider-Man villain where it was specifically stated that he had superstrength, the origin of which, was a mystery. It was to the point where it was all but stated he was stronger than Spidey who can lift roughly 10 tons. Once he shifted over to a Daredevil villain, he had a {{Retcon}}, explaining that he was just a really strong human. After that, whenever Kingpin showed up in Spidey comics, he curiously turned into a master-manipulator type instead of the brawler he once was.was.
** The character also features a {{deconstruction}} of the trope. Kingpin is often able to fight Spider-Man man to man, but the reason for this is that Spidey has to [[HoldingBackThePhlebotinum hold back his full strength when fighting human enemies to avoid killing them]]. In "Back in Black," one of the Kingpin's henchmen has just shot Aunt May, and Spider-Man comes within an inch of killing the Kingpin in an ''utter'' CurbStompBattle. This proves that Kingpin can only act as a BadassNormal because superheroes ''let'' him.
28th Feb '16 7:46:22 PM nombretomado
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** Batman One Million (an future superhero from the 853rd century) is a subversion- he has no superpowers exactly, which makes him "normal", but normal by distant future standards, where human evolution has taken some impressive leaps. This gives him physical abilities somewhere between CaptainAmerica and the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Superman]], low-level psychic powers and an IQ in excess of 200. Plus he has nanotechnology PowerArmour.

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** Batman One Million (an future superhero from the 853rd century) is a subversion- he has no superpowers exactly, which makes him "normal", but normal by distant future standards, where human evolution has taken some impressive leaps. This gives him physical abilities somewhere between CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and the [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Superman]], low-level psychic powers and an IQ in excess of 200. Plus he has nanotechnology PowerArmour.



* Comicbook/ThePunisher has no superpowers, but more than makes up for it with deadly martial arts skills, a brilliant tactical mind, and enough firepower to destroy a country. The skills of both the Punisher and CaptainAmerica are such that they've repeatedly tangled with superhuman foes and come out ahead by using their skills in clever and creative ways. ([[spoiler:[[Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX The MAX]] (mature readers) Punisher story ''Born'' may subvert this by implying that he may have made a deal with the Grim Reaper to continue to live in order to keep killing, but it is the only such hint in all of MAX Punisher. Otherwise, he's just a Badass Normal who looks his age and has been confined to bed rest multiple times from severe injuries.]])

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* Comicbook/ThePunisher has no superpowers, but more than makes up for it with deadly martial arts skills, a brilliant tactical mind, and enough firepower to destroy a country. The skills of both the Punisher and CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica are such that they've repeatedly tangled with superhuman foes and come out ahead by using their skills in clever and creative ways. ([[spoiler:[[Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX The MAX]] (mature readers) Punisher story ''Born'' may subvert this by implying that he may have made a deal with the Grim Reaper to continue to live in order to keep killing, but it is the only such hint in all of MAX Punisher. Otherwise, he's just a Badass Normal who looks his age and has been confined to bed rest multiple times from severe injuries.]])
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