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*** Korekiyo Shinguji pretty much committed the most unsympathetic murder of all-time by killing Angie and Tenko so that he could bring his sister 'admirable friends' in the afterlife to the point where even ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]]'' was [[EvenEvilHasStandards was disgusted in his motives]]. It is extremely noteworthy that he is the sole person in this game to receive an official execution and not have people attempt to save him.

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*** Korekiyo Shinguji pretty much committed the most unsympathetic murder of all-time within the franchise by killing Angie and Tenko so that he could bring his sister 'admirable friends' in the afterlife to the point where even ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]]'' was [[EvenEvilHasStandards was disgusted in his motives]]. It is extremely noteworthy that he is the sole person in this game to receive an official execution and not have people attempt to save him.
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*** Seemingly subverted with Metis Cykes when the prosecution tries to establish a motive for Athena to want to kill her mother and it shows she was very neglectful and used her as a science guinea pig, when in reality she was doing this because she cared about her daughter, and Simon tells Athena that her mother truly loved her, and never thought of her as a guinea pig for her experiments.

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*** Seemingly subverted Subverted with Metis Cykes when the prosecution tries to establish a motive for Athena to want to kill her mother and it shows she was very neglectful and used her as a science guinea pig, when in reality she was doing this because she cared about her daughter, and Simon tells Athena that her mother truly loved her, and never thought of her as a guinea pig for her experiments.



*** The victim of the second half of the fifth case, Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, is the man responsible for the attempted crime of the above, along with the theft of the Founder's Orb and the murder of Archie Buff, one of his sprites is casually signing execution papers, he's extremely abrasive, he doesn't have loyalties to anybody, he was planning a coup against Ga'ran, he kidnapped Maya, and he shot Apollo's foster father dead without remorse. He is not a good man. His only redeeming quality is his love for his daughter.

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*** The victim of the second half of the fifth case, Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, is the man responsible for the attempted crime of the above, secret police, along with the theft of the Founder's Orb and the murder of Archie Buff, Orb, one of his sprites is casually signing execution papers, he's extremely abrasive, he doesn't have loyalties to anybody, he was planning a coup against Ga'ran, he kidnapped Maya, and he shot Apollo's foster father dead without remorse. He is not a good man. His only redeeming quality is his love for his daughter.
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** The sequel has Hiyoko Saionji, a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. It's hard to feel bad for her, even though she didn't commit any murders herself and just walked in on a murder already underway, leading her to be killed [[HeKnowsTooMuch to be silenced]].
** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, Kuzuryuu's sister, had been bullying D-ko (Koizumi), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko (Satou) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.

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** The sequel has Hiyoko Saionji, a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. It's hard to feel bad for her, even though she didn't commit any murders never attempted murder herself and just walked in on a murder already underway, leading her to be killed [[HeKnowsTooMuch to be silenced]].
** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, Kuzuryuu's sister, Fuyuhiko's sister Natsume Kuzuryu, had been bullying D-ko Girl D (Koizumi), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's Girl D's close friend, E-ko (Satou) Girl E (Sato) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.
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*** Korekiyo Shinguji pretty much committed the most unsympathetic murder of all-time by killing Angie and Tenko so that he could bring his sister 'admirable friends' in the afterlife the point where ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]]'' was [[EvenEvilHasStandards was disgusted in his motives]]. It is extremely noteworthy that he is the sole person in this game to receive an official execution and not have people attempt to save him.

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*** Korekiyo Shinguji pretty much committed the most unsympathetic murder of all-time by killing Angie and Tenko so that he could bring his sister 'admirable friends' in the afterlife to the point where even ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]]'' was [[EvenEvilHasStandards was disgusted in his motives]]. It is extremely noteworthy that he is the sole person in this game to receive an official execution and not have people attempt to save him.
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*** A [[Downplayed]] example happens with Kokichi Oma. He is a bit antagonistic to the other students where a lot of people thought he was the mastermind. However, as it turns out, he was an AntiHero who was GoodAllAlong and he wanted to save Maki from being executed once she ended up shooting a poisonous arrow at him.

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*** A [[Downplayed]] {{Downplayed}} example happens with Kokichi Oma. He is a bit antagonistic to the other students where a lot of people thought he was the mastermind. However, as it turns out, he was an AntiHero who was GoodAllAlong and he wanted to save Maki from being executed once she ended up shooting a poisonous arrow at him.
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** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, Kuzuryuu's sister, had been bullying D-ko (Koizumi), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko (Satou) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.

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** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, Kuzuryuu's sister, had been bullying D-ko (Koizumi), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko (Satou) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.to.
** VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 has a couple of these
*** Monokid is the first of the Monokuma Cubs to be destroyed, courtesy of Monodam shoving him into the line of fire during Kaede's execution in Chapter 1. As an unrepentant hellraiser who was loud and obnoxious to everyone, it's safe to say that he won't be missed by anyone.
*** Korekiyo Shinguji pretty much committed the most unsympathetic murder of all-time by killing Angie and Tenko so that he could bring his sister 'admirable friends' in the afterlife the point where ''[[BigBad Mono]][[HopeCrusher kuma]]'' was [[EvenEvilHasStandards was disgusted in his motives]]. It is extremely noteworthy that he is the sole person in this game to receive an official execution and not have people attempt to save him.
*** Miu Iruma is TheFriendNobodyLikes where even her trial, several students admitted to the the fact that they probably wouldn't have been friends with her, even if they hadn't met in a killing game. In addition, had she not been the victim of Chapter Four, she would of killed Kokichi and frame Kaito for the murder possibly leading the other students to their deaths.
*** A [[Downplayed]] example happens with Kokichi Oma. He is a bit antagonistic to the other students where a lot of people thought he was the mastermind. However, as it turns out, he was an AntiHero who was GoodAllAlong and he wanted to save Maki from being executed once she ended up shooting a poisonous arrow at him.

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*** Seemingly subverted with Metis Cykes when the prosecution tries to establish a motive for Athena to want to kill her mother and it shows she was very neglectful and used her as a science guinea pig, when in reality [[spoiler: she was doing this because she cared about her daughter, and Simon tells Athena that her mother truly loved her, and never thought of her as a guinea pig for her experiments.]]

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*** Seemingly subverted with Metis Cykes when the prosecution tries to establish a motive for Athena to want to kill her mother and it shows she was very neglectful and used her as a science guinea pig, when in reality [[spoiler: she was doing this because she cared about her daughter, and Simon tells Athena that her mother truly loved her, and never thought of her as a guinea pig for her experiments.]]



*** The victim of the fourth case Teigu Toneido is an interesting case. While not a egregious JerkAss like other examples, he was more a GrumpyOldMan, he still snubbed his beloved senior disciple, who was the child of the previous Uendo Toneido in favor of his junior disciple and apparently stole the deed to Bucky Whet's noodle shop. [[spoiler: Truth is, he had an ulterior motive for both. He stole the deed so he could make sure it was entitled to the right person (Bucky) and snubbed Geiru so he could ask her to find her own calling in life away from rakugo over a bowl of udon noodles which he had the tools to make. Ultimately, it's this that makes Geiru regret what she's done and genuinely feels bad about having killed a pretty cool old guy, if a bit grumpy. Pretty sad case in hindsight.]]

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*** The victim of the fourth case Teigu Toneido is an interesting case. While not a egregious JerkAss like other examples, he was more a GrumpyOldMan, he still snubbed his beloved senior disciple, who was the child of the previous Uendo Toneido in favor of his junior disciple and apparently stole the deed to Bucky Whet's noodle shop. [[spoiler: Truth is, he had an ulterior motive for both. He stole the deed so he could make sure it was entitled to the right person (Bucky) and snubbed Geiru so he could ask her to find her own calling in life away from rakugo over a bowl of udon noodles which he had the tools to make. Ultimately, it's this that makes Geiru regret what she's done and genuinely feels bad about having killed a pretty cool old guy, if a bit grumpy. Pretty sad case in hindsight.]]



* Shinji Matou in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', Heaven's Feel route. Considering that this is the guy who has been raping his sister Sakura for years, treats his Servant Rider like a dog even when she remains unflinchingly loyal to him, and tried to rape Rin when she was tied up and unable to resist, no one is exactly shedding any tears for him when he's stabbed through the chest by the very sister he was again attempting to rape, even if [[spoiler:this proves to be her StartOfDarkness]].

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* Shinji Matou in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', Heaven's Feel route. Considering that this is the guy who has been raping his sister Sakura for years, treats his Servant Rider like a dog even when she remains unflinchingly loyal to him, and tried to rape Rin when she was tied up and unable to resist, no one is exactly shedding any tears for him when he's stabbed through the chest by the very sister he was again attempting to rape, even if [[spoiler:this this proves to be her StartOfDarkness]].StartOfDarkness.



* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is this trope, as [[spoiler:she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her]]. [[spoiler: Leon]] doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway. The manga makes both of them more sympathetic however-[[spoiler:Sayaka genuinely cared about Makoto and left her dying clue as penance for what she had tried to do to him, and Leon himself actually murdered her by accident.]] Even in the game, Makoto forgives both of them for their actions, and rightly points out that the ''real'' asshole is Monokuma, the sadistic bear who's been trying to manipulate everyone into becoming murderers to begin with.
** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. [[spoiler: However, even though Tsumiki was the one who killed her, this turns out not to be the case; Hiyoko wasn't targeted, she just walked in on a murder already underway and [[HeKnowsTooMuch had to be silenced]].]]
** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, [[spoiler:Kuzuryuu's sister]], had been bullying D-ko ([[spoiler:Koizumi]]), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko ([[spoiler:Satou]]) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.

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* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'':
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is this trope, as [[spoiler:she she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her]]. [[spoiler: Leon]] her. Leon doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] killed. At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] he ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway. The manga makes both of them more sympathetic however-[[spoiler:Sayaka however- Sayaka genuinely cared about Makoto and left her dying clue as penance for what she had tried to do to him, and Leon himself actually murdered her by accident.]] accident. Even in the game, Makoto forgives both of them for their actions, and rightly points out that the ''real'' asshole is Monokuma, the sadistic bear who's been trying to manipulate everyone into becoming murderers to begin with.
** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], Saionji, a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. [[spoiler: However, It's hard to feel bad for her, even though Tsumiki was the one who killed her, this turns out not to be the case; Hiyoko wasn't targeted, she didn't commit any murders herself and just walked in on a murder already underway and underway, leading her to be killed [[HeKnowsTooMuch had to be silenced]].]]
silenced]].
** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, [[spoiler:Kuzuryuu's sister]], Kuzuryuu's sister, had been bullying D-ko ([[spoiler:Koizumi]]), (Koizumi), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko ([[spoiler:Satou]]) (Satou) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.
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*** Subverted in the fourth case. You're led to believe that the victim, Jill Crane, is the conductor of a black market auction who was selling evidence, but you later learn that she was trying to put a stop to the auction.
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*** Subverted in the fourth case. [[spoiler:You're led to believe that the victim, Jill Crane, is the conductor of a black market auction who was selling evidence, but you later learn that she was trying to put a stop to the auction.]]

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*** Subverted in the fourth case. [[spoiler:You're You're led to believe that the victim, Jill Crane, is the conductor of a black market auction who was selling evidence, but you later learn that she was trying to put a stop to the auction.]]
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*** Subverted in the fourth case. [[spoiler:You're led to believe that the victim, Jill Crane, is the conductor of a black market auction who was selling evidence, but you later learn that she was trying to put a stop to the auction.]]
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*** Seemingly subverted with Metis Cykes when the prosecution tries to establish a motive for Athena to want to kill her mother and it shows she was very neglectful and used her as a science guinea pig, when in reality [[spoiler: she was doing this because she cared about her daughter, and Simon tells Athena that her mother truly loved her, and never thought of her as a guinea pig for her experiments.]]
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*** The victim of the fourth case Teigu Toneido is an interesting case. While not a egregious JerkAss like other examples, he was more a GrumpyOldMan, he still snubbed his beloved senior disciple, who was the child of the previous Uendo Toneido in favor of his junior disciple and apparently stole the deed to Bucky Whet's noodle shop. [[spoiler: Truth is, he had an ulterior motive for both. He stole the deed so he could make sure it was entitled to the right person (Bucky) and snubbed Geiru so he could ask her to find her own calling in life away from rakugo over a bowl of udon noodles which he had the tools to make. Ultimately, it's this that makes Geiru regret what she's done and genuinely feels bad about having killed a pretty cool old guy, if a bit grumpy. Pretty sad case in hindsight.]]
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*** The victim of the DLC case, Dumas Gloomsbury, tried to kill Ellen in order to get back at Sorin, his fiance, for making him TheScapegoat of the car crash that killed Sorin's older sister, Selena.

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*** The victim of the DLC case, Dumas Gloomsbury, tried to kill Ellen in order to get back at Sorin, his fiance, her fiancé, for making him TheScapegoat of the car crash that killed Sorin's older sister, Selena.
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*** The victim of the second half of the fifth case, Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, is the man responsible for the attempted crime of the above, along with the theft of the Founder's Orb and the murder of Archie Buff, one of his sprites is casually signing execution papers, he's extremely abrasive, he doesn't have loyalties to anybody, he was planning a coup against Ga'ran, he kidnapped Maya, and he shot Apollo's foster father dead without remorse. He is not a good man.

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*** The victim of the second half of the fifth case, Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, is the man responsible for the attempted crime of the above, along with the theft of the Founder's Orb and the murder of Archie Buff, one of his sprites is casually signing execution papers, he's extremely abrasive, he doesn't have loyalties to anybody, he was planning a coup against Ga'ran, he kidnapped Maya, and he shot Apollo's foster father dead without remorse. He is not a good man. His only redeeming quality is his love for his daughter.
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** In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'':
*** The third case's victim, Puhray Zeh'lot/Rheel Neh'mu is a member of the SecretPolice, who is hunting members of the rebel group the Defiant Dragons. He is killed in self-defense while trying to kill the pregnant Behleeb Inmee, who saw him as her surrogae son, merely for being a member of the rebel group.
*** The victim of the second half of the fifth case, Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, is the man responsible for the attempted crime of the above, along with the theft of the Founder's Orb and the murder of Archie Buff, one of his sprites is casually signing execution papers, he's extremely abrasive, he doesn't have loyalties to anybody, he was planning a coup against Ga'ran, he kidnapped Maya, and he shot Apollo's foster father dead without remorse. He is not a good man.
*** The victim of the DLC case, Dumas Gloomsbury, tried to kill Ellen in order to get back at Sorin, his fiance, for making him TheScapegoat of the car crash that killed Sorin's older sister, Selena.
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*** The victim in the third case turned out to have been intentionally trying to frame your client, Will Powers, one of the nicest characters in the series, out of jealousy, by drugging him and stealing his costume. The real killer acted in self-defense, though they wouldn't have needed to if they hadn't been blackmailing him in the first place.

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*** The victim in the third case turned out to have been intentionally trying to frame your client, Will Powers, one of the nicest characters in the series, out of jealousy, by drugging him and stealing his costume. The real killer acted in self-defense, though they wouldn't have needed to if they hadn't been blackmailing him in the first place. It's also possible that the victim himself deliberately murdered another actor five years ago; we never hear his side of the story, but the killer strongly suggests the "accident" might have been deliberate.
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** ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' is notable among the games for having ''absolutely no Asshole Victims whatsoever''. Every murder victim in the game, whether a case-focused or in the backstory, was a genuinely decent person (although Bobby Fulbright can only be inferred from the assumption that the [[BigBad Phantom's]] impersonation was accurate).

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** ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyDualDestinies ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' is notable among the games for having ''absolutely no Asshole Victims whatsoever''. Every murder victim in the game, whether a case-focused or in the backstory, was a genuinely decent person (although Bobby Fulbright can only be inferred from the assumption that the [[BigBad Phantom's]] impersonation was accurate).
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** In ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney'' (the first game):

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** In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyJusticeForAll'' (the second game):

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** In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyJusticeForAll'' ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Justice for All]]'' (the second game):



** In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyTrialsAndTribulations'':

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** In ''Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney'':

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** ''Dual Destinies'' is notable among the games for having ''absolutely no Asshole Victims whatsoever''. Every murder victim in the game, whether a case-focused or in the backstory, was a genuinely decent person (although Bobby Fulbright can only be inferred from the assumption that the [[BigBad Phantom's]] impersonation was accurate).
* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Ace/Hongou was the head of a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corrupt corporation]] and recreated the Nonary Game for experimentation into [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_field#Morphogenetic_field Morphogenetic Fields]]. The Ninth Man, who is betrayed by Ace and [[YourHeadAsplode explodes rather nastily]], was Kubota, was in charge of R&D on the Nonary Project. Nijisaki and Musashidou were other members, killed by Ace to keep his identity secret. Ace himself gets his comeuppance in both the "Safe" and "True" endings. In the "Safe" ending, he's outright ''incinerated'', while in the "True" ending he survives, but has been completely exposed and ruined.

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** ''Dual Destinies'' ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' is notable among the games for having ''absolutely no Asshole Victims whatsoever''. Every murder victim in the game, whether a case-focused or in the backstory, was a genuinely decent person (although Bobby Fulbright can only be inferred from the assumption that the [[BigBad Phantom's]] impersonation was accurate).
* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Ace/Hongou was the head of a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corrupt corporation]] {{corrupt corporat|eExecutive}}ion and recreated the Nonary Game for experimentation into [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_field#Morphogenetic_field Morphogenetic Fields]]. The Ninth Man, who is betrayed by Ace and [[YourHeadAsplode explodes rather nastily]], was Kubota, was in charge of R&D on the Nonary Project. Nijisaki and Musashidou were other members, killed by Ace to keep his identity secret. Ace himself gets his comeuppance in both the "Safe" and "True" endings. In the "Safe" ending, he's outright ''incinerated'', while in the "True" ending he survives, but has been completely exposed and ruined.



* Rina Mamiya from ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' is this in one arc. She tries to kill Rena, so Rena kills her. Even if she was a JerkAss GoldDigger, it's horrifying when Rena kills her in the manga. She's crying, begging, bleeding, in pain... In any other media, her death is very quick though.
** Teppei Hojo is a TheyKilledKenny grade example. Gets his brains bashed in by Keiichi in the Curse Killing chapter, his head split in half by Rena (shortly after Rina's death) in the Atonement chapter, and killed by Keiichi, Rena, and Shion in the Exorcism chapter. Two of these are as [[KnightTemplarBigBrother punishment for exceptionally nasty child abuse against Satako]].

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* Rina Mamiya from ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' is this in one arc. She tries to kill Rena, so Rena kills her. Even if she was a JerkAss {{Jerkass}} GoldDigger, it's horrifying when Rena kills her in the manga. She's crying, begging, bleeding, in pain... In any other media, her death is very quick though.
** Teppei Hojo is a TheyKilledKenny grade TheyKilledKennyAgain-grade example. Gets his brains bashed in by Keiichi in the Curse Killing chapter, his head split in half by Rena (shortly after Rina's death) in the Atonement chapter, and killed by Keiichi, Rena, and Shion in the Exorcism chapter. Two of these are as [[KnightTemplarBigBrother punishment for exceptionally nasty child abuse against Satako]].



* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is this trope, as [[spoiler:she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her.]] [[spoiler: Leon]] doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway. The manga makes both of them more sympathetic however-[[spoiler:Sayaka genuinely cared about Makoto and left her dying clue as penance for what she had tried to do to him, and Leon himself actually murdered her by accident.]] Even in the game, Makoto forgives both of them for their actions, and rightly points out that the ''real'' asshole is Monokuma, the sadistic bear who's been trying to manipulate everyone into becoming murderers to begin with.

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* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is this trope, as [[spoiler:she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her.]] her]]. [[spoiler: Leon]] doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway. The manga makes both of them more sympathetic however-[[spoiler:Sayaka genuinely cared about Makoto and left her dying clue as penance for what she had tried to do to him, and Leon himself actually murdered her by accident.]] Even in the game, Makoto forgives both of them for their actions, and rightly points out that the ''real'' asshole is Monokuma, the sadistic bear who's been trying to manipulate everyone into becoming murderers to begin with.



** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, [[spoiler:Kuzuryuu's sister]], had been bullying D-ko([[spoiler:Koizumi]]), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko([[spoiler:Satou]]) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.

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** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, [[spoiler:Kuzuryuu's sister]], had been bullying D-ko([[spoiler:Koizumi]]), D-ko ([[spoiler:Koizumi]]), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko([[spoiler:Satou]]) E-ko ([[spoiler:Satou]]) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.
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*** In the fourth case, the victim is Valerie Hawthorne, a police officer who helped engineer a fake murder/kidnapping that ended with her and her sister in possession of a small fortune stolen from their father, and their co-conspirator sentenced to death for a crime that had not been committed. The twist is that she was killed because had she finally decided to come clean about everything, and the murderer stood to lose everything from her attack of conscience. Sad case all around.

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*** In the fourth case, the victim is Valerie Hawthorne, a police officer who helped engineer a fake murder/kidnapping that ended with her and her sister in possession of a small fortune stolen from their father, and their co-conspirator sentenced to death for a crime that had not been committed. The twist is that she was killed because she had she finally decided to come clean about everything, and the murderer stood to lose everything from her attack of conscience. Sad case all around.
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** In ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All'' (the second game):

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** In ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations'':

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*** The victim in the second case is actually the ''culprit'' from the first case--and if later revelations make his death sort of tragic in retrospect, he was still a guy that murdered his innocent co-worker out of [[GreenEyedMonster envy]] and ambition.

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*** The victim in the second case is actually the ''culprit'' from the first case--and if later revelations make his death sort of tragic in retrospect, he was still a guy that murdered his innocent co-worker out of [[GreenEyedMonster envy]] and ambition.ambition (plus he had a terrible personality on top of it all, having no problem casually harping on the faults he saw in his victim even though the person was already dead).
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* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Ace/Hongou was the head of a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corrupt corporation]] and recreated the Nonary Game for experimentation into [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_field#Morphogenetic_field Morphogenetic Fields]]. The Ninth Man, who is betrayed by Ace and [[YourHeadAsplode explodes rather nastily]], was Kubota, was in charge of R on the Nonary Project. Nijisaki and Musashidou were other members, killed by Ace to keep his identity secret. It just makes his KarmicDeath in the "Safe" ending more fulfilling.

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* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Ace/Hongou was the head of a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corrupt corporation]] and recreated the Nonary Game for experimentation into [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_field#Morphogenetic_field Morphogenetic Fields]]. The Ninth Man, who is betrayed by Ace and [[YourHeadAsplode explodes rather nastily]], was Kubota, was in charge of R R&D on the Nonary Project. Nijisaki and Musashidou were other members, killed by Ace to keep his identity secret. It just makes Ace himself gets his KarmicDeath comeuppance in both the "Safe" and "True" endings. In the "Safe" ending, he's outright ''incinerated'', while in the "True" ending more fulfilling.he survives, but has been completely exposed and ruined.
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* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is this trope, as [[spoiler:she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her.]] [[spoiler: Leon]] doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway.

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* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is this trope, as [[spoiler:she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her.]] [[spoiler: Leon]] doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway. The manga makes both of them more sympathetic however-[[spoiler:Sayaka genuinely cared about Makoto and left her dying clue as penance for what she had tried to do to him, and Leon himself actually murdered her by accident.]] Even in the game, Makoto forgives both of them for their actions, and rightly points out that the ''real'' asshole is Monokuma, the sadistic bear who's been trying to manipulate everyone into becoming murderers to begin with.
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** Teppei Hojo is a TheyKilledKenny grade example. Gets his brains bashed in by Keiichi in the Curse Killing chapter, his head split in half by Rena (shortly after Rina's deatah) in the Atonement chapter, and killed by Keiichi, Rena, and Shion in the Exorcism chapter. Two of these are as [[KnightTemplarBigBrother punishment for exceptionally nasty child abuse against Satako]].

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** Teppei Hojo is a TheyKilledKenny grade example. Gets his brains bashed in by Keiichi in the Curse Killing chapter, his head split in half by Rena (shortly after Rina's deatah) death) in the Atonement chapter, and killed by Keiichi, Rena, and Shion in the Exorcism chapter. Two of these are as [[KnightTemplarBigBrother punishment for exceptionally nasty child abuse against Satako]].
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* Rina Mamiya from ''HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'' is this in one arc. She tries to kill Rena, so Rena kills her. Even if she was a JerkAss GoldDigger, it's horrifying when Rena kills her in the manga. She's crying, begging, bleeding, in pain... In any other media, her death is very quick though.

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* Rina Mamiya from ''HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' is this in one arc. She tries to kill Rena, so Rena kills her. Even if she was a JerkAss GoldDigger, it's horrifying when Rena kills her in the manga. She's crying, begging, bleeding, in pain... In any other media, her death is very quick though.
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*** One of Redd White's blackmail victims who were DrivenToSuicide was a corrupt politician who was embezzling money.
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** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. However, there are several factors which stop this from being played straight; one is that [[spoiler: Hiyoko]] was actually undergoing some CharacterDevelopment in the wake of their only friend's murder, and while the killer [[spoiler: (Tsumiki)]] had recently [[spoiler: regained her memories from their time in Hope's Peak, which not only involved MORE bullying from Hiyoko, but the fact that she (and the rest of the cast) belonged to the terrorist group responsible for plunging the world into widespread chaos and death]], they were NOT the initial target; [[spoiler: she]] was only killed for walking in on the murder of another, much more likeable character. [[spoiler: And the entire thing as ultimately done on the wishes of Tsumiki's boss/probable girlfriend, the NightmareFetishist [[BigBad Junko Enoshima]], who really wouldn't care about someone's asshole status at all.]]

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** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. However, there are several factors which stop this from being played straight; one is that [[spoiler: Hiyoko]] However, even though Tsumiki was actually undergoing some CharacterDevelopment in the wake of their only friend's murder, and while the killer [[spoiler: (Tsumiki)]] had recently [[spoiler: regained her memories from their time in Hope's Peak, which not only involved MORE bullying from Hiyoko, but the fact that she (and the rest of the cast) belonged to the terrorist group responsible for plunging the world into widespread chaos and death]], they were NOT the initial target; [[spoiler: she]] was only one who killed for walking her, this turns out not to be the case; Hiyoko wasn't targeted, she just walked in on the a murder of another, much more likeable character. [[spoiler: And the entire thing as ultimately done on the wishes of Tsumiki's boss/probable girlfriend, the NightmareFetishist [[BigBad Junko Enoshima]], who really wouldn't care about someone's asshole status at all.already underway and [[HeKnowsTooMuch had to be silenced]].]]
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*** One of the victims in the fourth case is Mack Rell, who murdered Deid Mann to keep him from testifying about the smuggling ring, and collaborated with the real killer to kill the other victim. After he's done his part, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness the killer kills him and sets it up to look like he and the other victim killed each other]].



** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. However, there are several factors which stop this from being played straight; one is that [[spoiler: Hiyoko]] was actually undergoing some CharacterDevelopment in the wake of their only friend's murder, and while the killer [[spoiler: (Tsumiki)]] had recently [[spoiler: regained her memories from their time in Hope's Peak, which not only involved MORE bullying from Hiyoko, but the fact that she (and the rest of the cast) belonged to the terrorist group responsible for plunging the world into widespread chaos and death]], they were NOT the initial target; [[spoiler: she]] was only killed for walking in on the murder of another, much more likeable character. [[spoiler: And the entire thing as ultimately done on the wishes of Tsumiki's boss/probable girlfriend, the NightmareFetishist [[BigBad Junko Enoshima]], who really wouldn't care about someone's asshole status at all.]]

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** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. However, there are several factors which stop this from being played straight; one is that [[spoiler: Hiyoko]] was actually undergoing some CharacterDevelopment in the wake of their only friend's murder, and while the killer [[spoiler: (Tsumiki)]] had recently [[spoiler: regained her memories from their time in Hope's Peak, which not only involved MORE bullying from Hiyoko, but the fact that she (and the rest of the cast) belonged to the terrorist group responsible for plunging the world into widespread chaos and death]], they were NOT the initial target; [[spoiler: she]] was only killed for walking in on the murder of another, much more likeable character. [[spoiler: And the entire thing as ultimately done on the wishes of Tsumiki's boss/probable girlfriend, the NightmareFetishist [[BigBad Junko Enoshima]], who really wouldn't care about someone's asshole status at all.]]]]
** From "Twilight Syndrome", a [[ShowWithinAShow game inside the video game]] that was based on actual events in the characters' lives, the victim, [[spoiler:Kuzuryuu's sister]], had been bullying D-ko([[spoiler:Koizumi]]), expecting to get away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because of her powerful parents]]. D-ko's close friend, E-ko([[spoiler:Satou]]) confronted the victim, and in a fit of rage, strangled her until she fell unconsciousness, then killed her in order to prevent any possible problems that might arise if she came to.
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* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games like this trope. At least one victim in each game was pretty explicitly Not A Nice Person--many of them are criminals themselves.
** In ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney'' (the first game):
*** The victim in the third case turned out to have been intentionally trying to frame your client, Will Powers, one of the nicest characters in the series, out of jealousy, by drugging him and stealing his costume. The real killer acted in self-defense, though they wouldn't have needed to if they hadn't been blackmailing him in the first place.
*** The fourth case's victim was a defense attorney who sought to get not guilty verdicts even if it meant harm to his clients, and was killed by one of said clients who had been genuinely innocent but had his entire life destroyed as a result of the false insanity plea.
** In ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All'' (the second game):
*** The second case's victim, Turner Grey, was a real DrJerk killed by a former employee who alleged he had drugged her, causing her to crash her car and kill her little sister. (Whether he actually ''did'' drug her is somewhat unclear, but being one of the few victims met before their demise, his {{jerkass}} persona is well-evident.)
*** Juan Corrida of the fourth case initially seems like a nice guy, but it becomes increasingly evident that the feud between himself and Matt Engarde was an ugly reflection on both of them, and often wound up with other people in the crosshairs: most notably, when Juan found out his fiancee Celeste had once been an item with Matt, he called off their wedding and Celeste committed suicide. Her protege, Adrian Andrews, blamed them both for her mentor's death.
** In ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations'':
*** The first case's victim, Doug Swallow, is a subversion: Although he's Dahlia's ex and Phoenix refers to him as a "stuck-up British wannabe", in truth he was trying to give Phoenix a ''very'' important warning about his girlfriend.
*** Kane Bullard from the second case counts, for being a greedy CorruptCorporateExecutive and blackmailing [[MagnificentBastard Luke Atmey]].
*** In the fourth case, the victim is Valerie Hawthorne, a police officer who helped engineer a fake murder/kidnapping that ended with her and her sister in possession of a small fortune stolen from their father, and their co-conspirator sentenced to death for a crime that had not been committed. The twist is that she was killed because had she finally decided to come clean about everything, and the murderer stood to lose everything from her attack of conscience. Sad case all around.
** In ''Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney'':
*** The first case's victim, Shadi Smith, is a bit of a complicated case, as his real identity (and the motive of his murderer) isn't clear until the very end. However, even before that it's made known that he was trying to rig a game of cards against the defendant, and when the plan failed he [[GrievousBottleyHarm clocked his co-conspirator over the head with a bottle of grape juice]].
*** The victim of the second case, Pal Meraktis, not only dealt with the criminal underworld and covered up a botched operation on Wocky, but he tried to kill Alita Tiala. He failed quite miserably, and she shot him instead.
** In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth'':
*** The third case initially appears to play this straight; [[SignificantAnagram Oliver Deacon]]/Colin Devorae is thought to have been an escaped felon who betrayed his accomplices in Lance Amano's kidnapping for the money, but it turns out that Lance threatened his daughter's safety to force him to falsely kidnap him, and that his previous "crimes" were TakingTheHeat for Ernest Amano.
*** One of the victims of the fifth case, Manny Coachen, was a man who was heavily involved in an international smuggling ring and counterfeiting operation that almost destroyed another country's economy, and had gotten away with at least one murder in his lifetime.
** In ''Investigations 2'':
*** The victim in the second case is actually the ''culprit'' from the first case--and if later revelations make his death sort of tragic in retrospect, he was still a guy that murdered his innocent co-worker out of [[GreenEyedMonster envy]] and ambition.
*** In the third case, the victim was an infamously greedy sculptor apparently OnlyInItForTheMoney, who forced his own son to kidnap the son of his former partner so that he could have an easier time betraying and blackmailing him. The blackmailee opted to kill him instead. In the same case the killer himself ''also'' became a victim, albeit nonfatally, and he was a guy who only valued his son as a taste-tester and left him behind in an OrphanageOfFear when he fled the country after the murder.
*** Then, in the final case, the victim (who had been met way back in the first case) turns out to have been ''much'' more assholish than had been initially suspected--he was in fact a former body double for the head of state who had arranged the man's assassination, taken his place, fabricated his own kidnapping to defraud the country of millions and killed or tried to kill anyone who could have exposed his real identity. By comparison the game's actual BigBad, who arranged his murder, comes off as downright sympathetic, and possibly would have been seen as justified if he hadn't tried to pin the murder on a thirteen-year-old boy.
** ''Dual Destinies'' is notable among the games for having ''absolutely no Asshole Victims whatsoever''. Every murder victim in the game, whether a case-focused or in the backstory, was a genuinely decent person (although Bobby Fulbright can only be inferred from the assumption that the [[BigBad Phantom's]] impersonation was accurate).
* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', Ace/Hongou was the head of a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corrupt corporation]] and recreated the Nonary Game for experimentation into [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_field#Morphogenetic_field Morphogenetic Fields]]. The Ninth Man, who is betrayed by Ace and [[YourHeadAsplode explodes rather nastily]], was Kubota, was in charge of R on the Nonary Project. Nijisaki and Musashidou were other members, killed by Ace to keep his identity secret. It just makes his KarmicDeath in the "Safe" ending more fulfilling.
* Shinji Matou in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', Heaven's Feel route. Considering that this is the guy who has been raping his sister Sakura for years, treats his Servant Rider like a dog even when she remains unflinchingly loyal to him, and tried to rape Rin when she was tied up and unable to resist, no one is exactly shedding any tears for him when he's stabbed through the chest by the very sister he was again attempting to rape, even if [[spoiler:this proves to be her StartOfDarkness]].
** And if you wanted his anime counterpart dead too, don't worry. That happens too.
* The victim in the MurderMystery VisualNovel ''VisualNovel/{{Jisei}}'' was working with her company to steal information from a rival corporation, but decided to doublecross her employer in favor of a third party that offered her more money.
* Rina Mamiya from ''HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'' is this in one arc. She tries to kill Rena, so Rena kills her. Even if she was a JerkAss GoldDigger, it's horrifying when Rena kills her in the manga. She's crying, begging, bleeding, in pain... In any other media, her death is very quick though.
** Teppei Hojo is a TheyKilledKenny grade example. Gets his brains bashed in by Keiichi in the Curse Killing chapter, his head split in half by Rena (shortly after Rina's deatah) in the Atonement chapter, and killed by Keiichi, Rena, and Shion in the Exorcism chapter. Two of these are as [[KnightTemplarBigBrother punishment for exceptionally nasty child abuse against Satako]].
** Onryu Sonozaki in the Cotton Drifting and Eye Opening chapters by Shion. Subverted in later arcs.
* [[spoiler:Sayaka Maizono]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' is this trope, as [[spoiler:she invited Leon to her room as an attempt to murder him, which backfired. She had also set up the protagonist to take the fall for her.]] [[spoiler: Leon]] doesn't come out of this smelling like roses either, as [[spoiler: he picked up Sayaka's framejob from there, even though wrongly accusing Naegi of murder meant that everyone but Leon would be killed.]] At the end, one character points out that [[spoiler: he]] ''did'' have time to stop and think when the victim (who was having second thoughts) retreated, meaning that it wasn't entirely done in self-defense - but pursued and killed them anyway.
** The sequel has [[spoiler: Hiyoko Saionji]], a ''massive'' brat who treated her classmates like garbage (especially [[ShrinkingViolet Tsumiki]]) and had a habit of abusing small animals. However, there are several factors which stop this from being played straight; one is that [[spoiler: Hiyoko]] was actually undergoing some CharacterDevelopment in the wake of their only friend's murder, and while the killer [[spoiler: (Tsumiki)]] had recently [[spoiler: regained her memories from their time in Hope's Peak, which not only involved MORE bullying from Hiyoko, but the fact that she (and the rest of the cast) belonged to the terrorist group responsible for plunging the world into widespread chaos and death]], they were NOT the initial target; [[spoiler: she]] was only killed for walking in on the murder of another, much more likeable character. [[spoiler: And the entire thing as ultimately done on the wishes of Tsumiki's boss/probable girlfriend, the NightmareFetishist [[BigBad Junko Enoshima]], who really wouldn't care about someone's asshole status at all.]]

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