Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Analysis / AmericansHateTingle

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as ''Manga/LuckyStar'', ''Manga/{{KOn}}'', ''LightNovel/LoveChunibyoAndOtherDelusions'', ''Anime/{{Free}}'', ''Anime/TamakoMarket'', and ''LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata'', has gotten some degree of popularity in the west. ''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to the "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as ''Manga/LuckyStar'', ''Manga/{{KOn}}'', ''LightNovel/LoveChunibyoAndOtherDelusions'', ''Anime/{{Free}}'', ''Anime/TamakoMarket'', and ''LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata'', ''LightNovel/BeyondTheBoundary'', has gotten some degree of popularity in the west. ''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to the "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west. ''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, ''Manga/LuckyStar'', ''Manga/{{KOn}}'', ''LightNovel/LoveChunibyoAndOtherDelusions'', ''Anime/{{Free}}'', ''Anime/TamakoMarket'', and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, ''LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata'', has gotten some degree of popularity in the west. ''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The the "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
cruft


For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them in the 1990's.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal, with plenty of organizations there to make Japanese pop culture more accessible to the Dutch audience that organize weekly conventions. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.

to:

For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them this; in the 1990's.1990s, people believed most anime consisted entirely of sex and violence.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal, with plenty of organizations there to make Japanese pop culture more accessible to the Dutch audience that organize weekly conventions. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west. ''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
\"With The Light\" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The \"Autism and Special Needs\" theme throughout the series.


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.[[WithTheLight manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.[[WithTheLight ''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]
series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.[[''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.[[''Manga/WithTheLight'' [[WithTheLight manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.
west.[[''Manga/WithTheLight'' manga also seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


{{Lolicon}} works have received very cold receptions in the western fanbase, where it's often seen as borderline child pornography ''and'' very degrading towards females (particularly young girls). It has actually to the point that some countries have not only outright banned these anime or manga, but also placed legal penalties for simply possessing such material.

to:

{{Lolicon}} works have received very cold receptions in the western fanbase, where it's often seen as borderline child pornography ''and'' very degrading towards females (particularly young girls). It has actually to the point that some countries have not only outright banned these anime or manga, but also placed legal penalties for simply possessing such material.
material. In its native Japan it is not liked either, but it is only considered immoral.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Pretty much anything with a Dutch dub also tends to fare very poorly in Belgium. This can be partially be attributed to the fact that despite the fact that Dutch is spoken in both Flanders and the Netherlands, the dialects between the two are radically different. This has grown to such an extent that in media whose dubs are mainly handled in the Netherlands (such as Anime), English is by far the most preferred option by Belgians, to the point that they are repulsed by anyone that enjoys media in a different language than it (or the language the original was released in).

to:

Pretty much anything with a Dutch dub also tends to fare very poorly in Belgium. This can be partially be attributed to the fact that despite the fact that Dutch is spoken in both Flanders and the Netherlands, the dialects between the two are radically different.different, to the point that several media in both countries tend to lampshade that phenomenon. This has grown to such an extent that in media whose dubs are mainly handled in the Netherlands (such as Anime), English is by far the most preferred option by Belgians, to the point that they are repulsed by anyone that enjoys media in a different language than it (or the language the original was released in).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them in the 1990's.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.

to:

For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them in the 1990's.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal.ideal, with plenty of organizations there to make Japanese pop culture more accessible to the Dutch audience that organize weekly conventions. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


{{Lolicon}} works have received very cold receptions in the western fanbase, where it's often seen as borderline child pornography ''and'' very degrading towards females (particularly young girls). It has actually to the point that some countries have not outright banned these anime or manga, but also placed legal penalties for simply possessing such material.

to:

{{Lolicon}} works have received very cold receptions in the western fanbase, where it's often seen as borderline child pornography ''and'' very degrading towards females (particularly young girls). It has actually to the point that some countries have not only outright banned these anime or manga, but also placed legal penalties for simply possessing such material.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


{{Loli|con}}s are widely hated in the western fanbase, mainly because of implications of pedophilia and sexism, and the fact that a large majority of loli characters are there just to appeal to the {{lolicon}} fanbase. It also doesn't happen to note that a large majority of works that have lolis as the main character are often seen as bland LittleSisterHeroine NiceGirl characters. Hence, this is why many anime with lolis are part of the main cast such as ''LightNovel/BlackBullet'', ''Anime/{{Kancolle}}'', and many ''Magazine/MangaTimeKirara'' titles have received negative receptions and are often widely hated among the fanbase.

to:

{{Loli|con}}s are widely hated in the western fanbase, mainly because of implications of pedophilia and sexism, and the fact that a large majority of loli characters are there just to appeal to the {{lolicon}} fanbase. It also doesn't happen to note that a large majority of works that have lolis as the main character are often seen as bland LittleSisterHeroine NiceGirl characters. Hence, this is why many anime with lolis are part of the main cast such as ''LightNovel/BlackBullet'', ''Anime/{{Kancolle}}'', ''Anime/KantaiCollection'', and many ''Magazine/MangaTimeKirara'' titles have received negative receptions and are often widely hated among the fanbase.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


{{Loli|con}}s characters are widely hated in the western fanbase, mainly because of implications of pedophilia and sexism, and the fact that a large majority of loli characters are there just to appeal to the {{lolicon}} fanbase. It also doesn't happen to note that a large majority of works that have lolis as the main character are often seen as bland LittleSisterHeroine NiceGirl characters. Hence, this is why many anime such as ''LightNovel/BlackBullet'', ''Anime/{{Kancolle}}'', and many ''Magazine/MangaTimeKirara'' titles have received negative receptions and are often widely hated among the fanbase.

to:

{{Loli|con}}s characters are widely hated in the western fanbase, mainly because of implications of pedophilia and sexism, and the fact that a large majority of loli characters are there just to appeal to the {{lolicon}} fanbase. It also doesn't happen to note that a large majority of works that have lolis as the main character are often seen as bland LittleSisterHeroine NiceGirl characters. Hence, this is why many anime with lolis are part of the main cast such as ''LightNovel/BlackBullet'', ''Anime/{{Kancolle}}'', and many ''Magazine/MangaTimeKirara'' titles have received negative receptions and are often widely hated among the fanbase.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

{{Loli|con}}s characters are widely hated in the western fanbase, mainly because of implications of pedophilia and sexism, and the fact that a large majority of loli characters are there just to appeal to the {{lolicon}} fanbase. It also doesn't happen to note that a large majority of works that have lolis as the main character are often seen as bland LittleSisterHeroine NiceGirl characters. Hence, this is why many anime such as ''LightNovel/BlackBullet'', ''Anime/{{Kancolle}}'', and many ''Magazine/MangaTimeKirara'' titles have received negative receptions and are often widely hated among the fanbase.


Added DiffLines:

{{Lolicon}} works have received very cold receptions in the western fanbase, where it's often seen as borderline child pornography ''and'' very degrading towards females (particularly young girls). It has actually to the point that some countries have not outright banned these anime or manga, but also placed legal penalties for simply possessing such material.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.

to:

For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them.them in the 1990's.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action (hence the fact that most Dutch would say that they are not prudish, but that they still acted prudish when anime came along). Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.

to:

For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them.]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action (hence live-action, which as a bonus also adheres to the fact that most Dutch would say that they are not prudish, but that they still acted prudish when anime came along).values of the country. Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them.]]

to:

For instance, anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them.]]
]] All of this happened in the middle of the popularity of Dutch live-action TV, which largely had an audience with people that wanted more mature stuff seen in a light-hearted way, similarly to anime, but in live-action. This made of anime an easy target for hate and controversy as the intended audience would prefer watching live-action (hence the fact that most Dutch would say that they are not prudish, but that they still acted prudish when anime came along). Now that the majority of those live-action shows are gone though anime is starting to get a Dutch audience that tries to break that ideal. It is also a good explanation for why in Belgium Japanese media such as anime and manga only started getting popular in the 2000's and The New Tens, since most Belgians were never really able to watch anime before that period came along.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaKiraraTime titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaKiraraTime MangaTimeKirara titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works uses the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme. It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.

to:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works uses use the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme.theme (for example, there isn't much difference between the two MangaKiraraTime titles Manga/GochuumonWaUsagiDesuKa and Manga/KiniroMosaic when it comes to tropes being used). It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

SliceOfLife anime, while popular in Japan, usually don't sell that well in the western anime fanbase (especially North America).[[note]]It has gotten to the point that most Slice of Life works are often released [[NoDubForYou sub-only]] and it's more lucrative to dub any sports anime than any slice of life work[[/note]] This is because most SliceOfLife works uses the same SchoolgirlSeries tropes and cliche over and over again with each of them using a different theme. It also doesn't help to note that most SliceOfLife anime also have a heavy use of {{moe}} and an occassional TokenMiniMoe when it comes to their female characters. That being said, some slice of life works, particularly ones made by Creator/KyotoAnimation such as Manga/LuckyStar, Manga/{{KOn}}, LightNovel/ChuunibyouDemoKoiGaShitai, Anime/{{Free}}, Anime/TamakoMarket, and LightNovel/KyoukaiNoKanata, has gotten some degree of popularity in the west.

Added: 1354

Changed: 6015

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie". While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly anime such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles one which is probably sexual, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them]].

to:

A good example of this in action is [[{{Anime}} Japanese animation]]. Anime is, on the whole, a medium with a niche level of acceptance even in its native Japan (aside from family sitcoms like ''Manga/SazaeSan'' and blockbuster kids' shows like ''Manga/OnePiece''). But certain countries and regions have a tendency to reject some character types, genres, or even the medium itself, nearly completely.

'''Anime In General:'''

For instance, anime
has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie". "manga-movie" (this is a little ironic considering its proximity to Germany and France, places where anime tend to be extremely well-received). While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly anime shows such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do do. [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles one which is probably sexual, There's also a sexual angle to this, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them]].
them.]]



In Japan, dark and angsty young guys (especially [[{{Bishonen}} pretty]] ones) tend to be well-liked by audiences, often per their perceived mysterious and [[TrueArtIsAngsty deep]] characteristics. Elsewhere, such traits tend to be associated with the {{Emo}} trend, hence the backlash that characters like [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]] cause in the States.

Male characters that look pretty instead of manly and have hair that makes them look even prettier tend to be extremely popular in Japan, but are usually loathed everywhere else due to the different cultural values over how a man should look. For example, Raiden from ''MetalGearSolid2'' has long bleached hair and a somewhat feminine/boyish looking face while Kratos from the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series is hugely muscular and has a goatee.\\
This is more pronounced among the male part of the fandom, especially when it comes to view point characters or characters you are meant to relate to and ''especially'' when it comes to characters you are meant to play as. The Raiden example mentioned above was intensely disliked by American fans that enjoyed playing as the older and less “pretty” Snake and who did not want to take the role of what they saw as a significantly less macho player character.\\
These characters can still have an intense female fandom in the west, although there are subtle differences in how they are perceived. Compare PrettyBoy to {{Bishonen}} for more information.

to:

'''Character Types:'''

In Japan, dark and angsty young guys (especially [[{{Bishonen}} pretty]] ones) tend to be well-liked by audiences, often per their perceived mysterious and [[TrueArtIsAngsty deep]] characteristics. Elsewhere, especially in North America, such traits tend to be associated with the {{Emo}} trend, hence the backlash that characters like [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]] cause in the States.

Male characters that look pretty instead of manly and have hair that makes them look even prettier tend to be extremely popular in Japan, but are usually loathed everywhere else due to the different cultural values over how a man should look. For example, Raiden from ''MetalGearSolid2'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' has long bleached hair and a somewhat feminine/boyish looking face while Kratos from the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series is hugely muscular and has a goatee.\\
goatee. This is more pronounced among the male part of the fandom, especially when it comes to view point characters or characters you are meant to relate to and ''especially'' when it comes to characters you are meant to play as. The Raiden example mentioned above was intensely disliked by American fans that enjoyed playing as the older and less “pretty” Snake and who did not want to take the role of what they saw as a significantly less macho player character.\\
These characters can still have an intense female fandom in the west, although there are subtle differences in how they are perceived. Compare PrettyBoy to {{Bishonen}} for more information.



The ''imouto'' genre of anime/manga/light novels, etc. is well liked in Japan, but in the west it's seen as the low point of otaku pandering, and admitting you're a fan is equivalent to calling yourself a pedophile or creep.

Sports anime, historically, had sold poorly in North America (mainly due to the fact that many anime fans who are also sports fans prefer watching the actual sport than the fictionalized version of it). However, this trope is slowly being averted in TheNewTens abd sports anime has experienced a massive revival in North America thanks to the popularity of sports anime titles such as Anime/{{Free}} and Manga/{{Haikyuu}}. This is mostly because the CastFullOfPrettyBoys in sports anime has a strong appeal to both male ''and'' female audiences and the fact that most sports anime actually have distinct and unique characterization and character interactions (particularly in regards to competitiveness in the sport ad hints of HoYay).

Pretty much anything with a Dutch dub also tends to fare very poorly in Belgium. This can be partially be attributed to the fact that despite the fact that in both Flanders as well as the Netherlands the same language is spoken, that the accents are radically different from bith regions. This has grown to such an extent that in media whose dubs are mainly handled by Dutch (such as Anime) English is by far the most preferred option by Belgians, to the point that they are repulsed by anyone that enjoys media in a different language than it (or the language the original was released in).

to:

'''Genre Issues:'''

The ''imouto'' (translation: "little sister") genre of anime/manga/light novels, etc. is well liked in Japan, but in the west West it's seen as the low point of otaku pandering, and admitting you're a fan is considered among some segments of the fandom as equivalent to calling yourself a pedophile or creep.

(or at least a creep).

Sports anime, historically, had which are popular in Japan and extremely popular in Latin America, have historically sold ''very'' poorly in North America; sports ''manga'' does only slightly better. There have been a number of reasons proposed for why this happens: First and foremost is that anime fans in North America (mainly carry the stereotype of being young nerds (no shock considering many of the early adopters and originators of the fandom started as fans of Science Fiction), which due to the fact highly stratified social ladder extant among youth of the region means that many anime fans who the two interests are also often violently incompatible. Also, sports fans prefer watching the actual sport than the fictionalized version of it). However, this trope is slowly being averted in TheNewTens abd sports anime has experienced a massive revival in North America thanks to (''especially'' the popularity United States) is much more organized and professionalized, even at the middle school level, than in Japan; as a result, the bar for even being accepted onto a team is much higher and thus the fewer North American kids can identify with the experience (plus the Japanese system comes off as hilariously quaint). Finally, the minority of anime fans who ''do'' enjoy sports anime have expressed a preference for watching the real thing. Every once in awhile, though, a sports show can make it out of the doldrums. TheNewTens has seen titles such as Anime/{{Free}} like ''Anime/{{Free}}'' and Manga/{{Haikyuu}}. This is ''Manga/{{Haikyuu}}'' achieve some degree of popularity, mostly because the due to its CastFullOfPrettyBoys in appealing to the increasingly-important female segment of the fandom. Also, sports anime has a strong appeal to both male ''and'' female audiences and the fact shows revolving around swords, like ''Manga/BambooBlade'', are exempt from this trope because they have that most sports anime actually have distinct and unique characterization and character interactions (particularly in regards "samurai" feel that North Americans tend to competitiveness in the sport ad hints of HoYay).

love.

'''Adaptations:'''

Pretty much anything with a Dutch dub also tends to fare very poorly in Belgium. This can be partially be attributed to the fact that despite the fact that Dutch is spoken in both Flanders as well as and the Netherlands Netherlands, the same language is spoken, that dialects between the accents two are radically different from bith regions. different. This has grown to such an extent that in media whose dubs are mainly handled by Dutch in the Netherlands (such as Anime) Anime), English is by far the most preferred option by Belgians, to the point that they are repulsed by anyone that enjoys media in a different language than it (or the language the original was released in).
in).

'''Also:'''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Cold, logical, [[LawfulGood by-the-book characters]] tend to fare much better in Japan then they do in America, Toshiro Hitsuguya of Manga/{{Bleach}} being a great example. This is probably due to Japan's culture (shared by most East Asian countries) of obedience to established authority versus America's tradition of being the exact opposite of that. This might be why ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'' is so controversial with Americans; Adam and Samus' relationship is nothing more than acknowledged obedience, authority, and order for Japanese players, but for American players, they see it as Samus being weak willed, submissive, and/or has some deep sexual issues with Adam. In contrast, a CowboyCop would be less liked in Japan.

to:

Cold, logical, [[LawfulGood by-the-book characters]] tend to fare much better in Japan then they do in America, Toshiro Hitsuguya of Manga/{{Bleach}} being a great example. This is probably due to Japan's culture (shared by most East Asian countries) of obedience to established authority versus America's tradition of being the exact opposite of that. This might be why ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'' is so controversial with Americans; the Western Metroid fanbase; Adam and Samus' relationship is nothing more than acknowledged obedience, authority, and order for Japanese players, but for American Western players, they see it as dysfuctional, with Samus being weak willed, submissive, and/or has some deep sexual sexual/parental issues with Adam. In contrast, a CowboyCop would be less liked in Japan.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

Pretty much anything with a Dutch dub also tends to fare very poorly in Belgium. This can be partially be attributed to the fact that despite the fact that in both Flanders as well as the Netherlands the same language is spoken, that the accents are radically different from bith regions. This has grown to such an extent that in media whose dubs are mainly handled by Dutch (such as Anime) English is by far the most preferred option by Belgians, to the point that they are repulsed by anyone that enjoys media in a different language than it (or the language the original was released in).

Added: 1473

Changed: 676

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

Anime has a low acceptance level in the Netherlands, where it is often pejoratively referred to as "manga-movie". While international successes such as ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' or kid-friendly anime such as ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' got more acceptance in that country over time, there exists still a sort of "animephobia" around the medium. Or rather, pure mindless fear towards anime in the way only a phobia would do [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles one which is probably sexual, due to the fact that anime series there got perceived as series with only violence and sex in them]].

Ex-USSR countries have issues with anime, probably due to the huge technical & aesthetic differences from the animation they grew accustomed to under the former Soviet regime. While there have been anime booms (mostly of the ''Franchise/DragonBall'' series), most anime that aired there was perceived as controversial and was quickly pulled by TV stations. Due to this, most of those networks refuse to air them and prefer to air Live-Action TV or Western Animation. That said, older children's shows, such as the anime adaptations of ''Literature/MayaTheBee'', ''Literature/TheMoomins'' and ''The Wonderful Adventures of Nils'' (all based on European source material) are very popular, but they aren't regarded as anime by most people.



{{Yamato Nadeshiko}}s and other "traditional" {{moe}} character types are the DistaffCounterpart version of the above, being liked in Japan (though still not as much as {{tsundere}}s) but not so much in the West; Westerners tend to find them boring and, in some cases, sexist for promoting women being submissive and obedient. The {{Moe}} criticism from the West gets worse when the TokenMiniMoe trope is applied on females (due to pseudo-{{lolicon}} and pedophilia implications)

to:

{{Yamato Nadeshiko}}s and other "traditional" {{moe}} character types are the DistaffCounterpart version of the above, being liked in Japan (though still not as much as {{tsundere}}s) but not so much in the West; Westerners tend to find them boring and, in some cases, sexist for promoting women being submissive and obedient. The {{Moe}} criticism from the West gets worse when the TokenMiniMoe trope is applied on females (due to pseudo-{{lolicon}} and pedophilia implications)
implications). Because of this, {{Moe}} anime or any anime with lolis are [[NoDubForYou less likely to get dubs]].


Added DiffLines:

Sports anime, historically, had sold poorly in North America (mainly due to the fact that many anime fans who are also sports fans prefer watching the actual sport than the fictionalized version of it). However, this trope is slowly being averted in TheNewTens abd sports anime has experienced a massive revival in North America thanks to the popularity of sports anime titles such as Anime/{{Free}} and Manga/{{Haikyuu}}. This is mostly because the CastFullOfPrettyBoys in sports anime has a strong appeal to both male ''and'' female audiences and the fact that most sports anime actually have distinct and unique characterization and character interactions (particularly in regards to competitiveness in the sport ad hints of HoYay).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

The ''imouto'' genre of anime/manga/light novels, etc. is well liked in Japan, but in the west it's seen as the low point of otaku pandering, and admitting you're a fan is equivalent to calling yourself a pedophile or creep.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
correct spelling on pseudo


{{Yamato Nadeshiko}}s and other "traditional" {{moe}} character types are the DistaffCounterpart version of the above, being liked in Japan (though still not as much as {{tsundere}}s) but not so much in the West; Westerners tend to find them boring and, in some cases, sexist for promoting women being submissive and obedient. The {{Moe}} criticism from the West gets worse when the TokenMiniMoe trope is applied on females (due to pesudo-{{lolicon}} and pedophilia implications)

to:

{{Yamato Nadeshiko}}s and other "traditional" {{moe}} character types are the DistaffCounterpart version of the above, being liked in Japan (though still not as much as {{tsundere}}s) but not so much in the West; Westerners tend to find them boring and, in some cases, sexist for promoting women being submissive and obedient. The {{Moe}} criticism from the West gets worse when the TokenMiniMoe trope is applied on females (due to pesudo-{{lolicon}} pseudo-{{lolicon}} and pedophilia implications)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


A little more information on general trends that might cause AmericansHateTingle.


to:

A little more information on general trends that might cause AmericansHateTingle.

AmericansHateTingle. Please note that these are ''general'' trends, and are not absolute.

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


In general, an import will fare poorly if it's [[FollowTheLeader too similar to anything done domestically]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Formatting.


Male characters that look pretty instead of manly and have hair that makes them look even prettier tend to be extremely popular in Japan, but are usually loathed everywhere else due to the different cultural values over how a man should look. For example, Raiden from ''MetalGearSolid2'' has long bleached hair and a somewhat feminine/boyish looking face while Kratos from the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series is hugely muscular and has a goatee.
This is more pronounced among the male part of the fandom, especially when it comes to view point characters or characters you are meant to relate to and ''especially'' when it comes to characters you are meant to play as. The Raiden example mentioned above was intensely disliked by American fans that enjoyed playing as the older and less “pretty” Snake and who did not want to take the role of what they saw as a significantly less macho player character.

to:

Male characters that look pretty instead of manly and have hair that makes them look even prettier tend to be extremely popular in Japan, but are usually loathed everywhere else due to the different cultural values over how a man should look. For example, Raiden from ''MetalGearSolid2'' has long bleached hair and a somewhat feminine/boyish looking face while Kratos from the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series is hugely muscular and has a goatee. \n\\
This is more pronounced among the male part of the fandom, especially when it comes to view point characters or characters you are meant to relate to and ''especially'' when it comes to characters you are meant to play as. The Raiden example mentioned above was intensely disliked by American fans that enjoyed playing as the older and less “pretty” Snake and who did not want to take the role of what they saw as a significantly less macho player character.\\
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
info is mostly pulled from the general examples on main and editied to read a bit more like an essay and less like a list.

Added DiffLines:

A little more information on general trends that might cause AmericansHateTingle.


In Japan, dark and angsty young guys (especially [[{{Bishonen}} pretty]] ones) tend to be well-liked by audiences, often per their perceived mysterious and [[TrueArtIsAngsty deep]] characteristics. Elsewhere, such traits tend to be associated with the {{Emo}} trend, hence the backlash that characters like [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke]] cause in the States.

Male characters that look pretty instead of manly and have hair that makes them look even prettier tend to be extremely popular in Japan, but are usually loathed everywhere else due to the different cultural values over how a man should look. For example, Raiden from ''MetalGearSolid2'' has long bleached hair and a somewhat feminine/boyish looking face while Kratos from the ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' series is hugely muscular and has a goatee.
This is more pronounced among the male part of the fandom, especially when it comes to view point characters or characters you are meant to relate to and ''especially'' when it comes to characters you are meant to play as. The Raiden example mentioned above was intensely disliked by American fans that enjoyed playing as the older and less “pretty” Snake and who did not want to take the role of what they saw as a significantly less macho player character.
These characters can still have an intense female fandom in the west, although there are subtle differences in how they are perceived. Compare PrettyBoy to {{Bishonen}} for more information.

Cold, logical, [[LawfulGood by-the-book characters]] tend to fare much better in Japan then they do in America, Toshiro Hitsuguya of Manga/{{Bleach}} being a great example. This is probably due to Japan's culture (shared by most East Asian countries) of obedience to established authority versus America's tradition of being the exact opposite of that. This might be why ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'' is so controversial with Americans; Adam and Samus' relationship is nothing more than acknowledged obedience, authority, and order for Japanese players, but for American players, they see it as Samus being weak willed, submissive, and/or has some deep sexual issues with Adam. In contrast, a CowboyCop would be less liked in Japan.

{{Yamato Nadeshiko}}s and other "traditional" {{moe}} character types are the DistaffCounterpart version of the above, being liked in Japan (though still not as much as {{tsundere}}s) but not so much in the West; Westerners tend to find them boring and, in some cases, sexist for promoting women being submissive and obedient. The {{Moe}} criticism from the West gets worse when the TokenMiniMoe trope is applied on females (due to pesudo-{{lolicon}} and pedophilia implications)

The {{Tsundere}} character type is highly criticized and not well liked in the West (American men prefer women to have a ''reason'' for snapping at a guy she secretly likes; otherwise, it looks as if the girl has a mental disorder, like bipolar or manic-depressive schizophrenia), although not as severe as the negative reaction to the {{Moe}} archetype.

Top