History Analysis / AdventureTime

Too long, didn't read: Finn is able to sacrifice his relationship with PB in the name of his character as a hero, but not his relationship with FP. Therefore Finn's love for FP could be stronger.

|| Joshua finds that Jake knocked out his brother, Jermaine. || Years later, still years before the animated short. ||

Ever since the episode "What Was Missing" was aired, the relaionship between [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Adventure Time's]] two major characters, Princess Bubblegum and Marceline has been shrouded in controversy. The fanbase recently has gone to war on whether or not their relationship is platonic or if the relationship has a more [[LesYay romantic implication.]] The main issue here is subtext, but what we do know about their relationship is that Princess Bubblegum and Marceline was once friends, but had some sort of falling out before the series began, which explains the contempt they had for each other during the episode (and the attitude that Bubblegum had towards Marceline during the episode "Go With Me"). What we also know is that throughout "What Was Missing", Marceline made it very clear she wants to reconcile with the Princess and heal their relationship. Which is where we start the {{Flame War}}s and arguments between the two camps. Here is where we start to analyze the subtext from the episode and the different explainations between each side.

|| Finn makes his hat. || A little later ||

|| Marceline moves into the tree fort with Ash. || Many years later ||

Well, let's see how much of it we can get right. Expect spoilers.

|| The events of season 2. Finn turns 13. The Lich escapes and is re-imprisoned in the snail. || Several months to over a year after animated short ||
|| The events of season 3. Finn and Jake discover the Ice King's past. Finn and Jake meet Flame Princess. || Over a year to almost two years after animated short ||

->'''Princess Bubblegum:''' If return myself to my old self, I might be able to reclaim the throne.\\

|| Simon Petrikov obtains the ice crown and Betty leaves him. || 1000+ years prior to animated short ||

|| Marceline is a kid. The Land of Ooo begins to form [[hottip:*:(and it's unknown how or when the other kingdoms formed, or when Billy or the Lich were born, or when Billy imprisoned him in the candy kingdom's tree.)]]. The world is in ruins. || Either during or just after the Mushroom War ||

|| Marceline moves into the treehouse with Ash. || Many years later ||

|| Finn and Jake move into the Tree Fort while Marceline is away. || Unknown period of time later, unknown period of time before the animated short. ||

|| Marceline's dad eats her fries. || Many years later ||
|| Marceline moves into the treehouse with Ash || Many years later ||
|| Marceline breaks up with Ash || Maybe a few years later ||
|| Marceline wanders Ooo like she said in "Evicted". The fire kingdom either has already been created or is created during this time period. || Probably a few years later ||

|| Joshua builds the dungeon for Finn. || Some time later ||

|| Finn is twelve. Jake meets Lady Rainicorn. || During animated short ||
|| The events of season 1. || Just after to several months after animated short ||

|| The events of season 3. Finn and Jake discover the Ice King's past. || Over a year to almost two years after animated short ||

|| Finn and Jake are born || Twelve years before the animated short ||

Well, let's see how much of it we can get right.

|| Marceline is a kid. The Land of Ooo begins to form [[hottip:*:(and it's unknown how or when the other kingdoms formed, or when Billy or the Lich were born, or when Billy defeated him.)]]. The world is in ruins. || Either during or just after the Mushroom War ||

|| Jake meets Lady Rainicorn || During animated short ||
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-->--'''Ian Jones Quartey''', storyboard supervisor

|| Simon Petrikov obtains the ice crown and Betty leaves him. || 1000+ years prior to present ||

|| Marceline is a kid. The Land of Ooo begins to form [[hottip:*:(and it's unknown how or when the other kingdoms formed)]]. The world is in ruins. || Either during or just after the Mushroom War ||

|| The Rainicorn-Dog War ends. || Some time later. ||

|| Event || Time ||

|| Ice Kingdom forms. The Mushroom War happens.|| Several years later ||
|| Marceline is a kid. The Land of Ooo begins to form (and it's unknown how or when the other kingdoms formed). The world is in ruins. || Either during or just after the Mushroom War ||

|| Marceline breaks up with Ash || Many years later ||

|| Simon Petrikov || 1000+ years prior to present ||

A lot of people have questioned Finn's sudden shift in crushing on PB to crushing on FP (though it's unknown if he no longer has a crush on PB). Let's examine Finn's love for them. First of all, when Finn is around PB he is mostly able to coordinate himself. He's able to hang out with her as friends, and he only acts weird when PB kisses him. He'll usually want to casually do something to impress her, but it's mostly due to BodyguardCrush. Even when she was thirteen, Finn was willing to return her to her normal age to save the candy kingdom, sacrificing their relationship in the process. He was willing to through away their relationship in the name of heroism.

With Flame Princess,

!!!Princess

Finally, the shirt scene. One piece of evidence which favors

Ever since the episode "What Was Missing" was aired, the relaionship between [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Adventure Time's]] two major characters, Princess Bubblegum and Marceline has been shrouded in controversy. The fanbase recently has gone to war on whether or not their relationship is platonic or if the relationship has a more [[LesYay romantic implication.]] The main issue here is subtext, but what we do know about their relationship is that Princess Bubblegum and Marceline was once friends, but had some sort of falling out before the series began, which explains the contempt they had for each other during the episode (and the attitude that Bubblegum had towards Marceline during the episode "Go With Me"). What we also know is that throughout "What Was Missing", Marceline made it very clear she wants to reconcile with the Princess and heal their relationship. Which is where we start the FlameWars and arguments between the two camps. Here is where we start to analyze the subtext from the episode and the different explainations between each side.

responds, "I said you had to be perfect!" further complicating things.

Finally, the shirt scene.

First, the song:

[[NoodleIncident I forget what landed me on your blacklist]], [[hottip:*:So apparently the '''biggest''' calamity [[TheUnreveal has yet to be revealed]]. All the rest was just side-stuff that strained their relationship. Since Marceline doesn't remember, it must've either happened a ''long'' time ago (though not likely since she can remember her childhood hundreds of years ago), or the event was ''so bad'' that she blocked it from memory]]\\

[[FreudianSlip Why do I want to? Why do I want to...]][[hottip:*:But Marcie still wants to be the one who makes up first, showing her caring and sensitive side. The fandom has been pulling its hair out over what the hell the ending is supposed to be. Suggestions include "kiss you". It most probably was simply "make up with you".]]

Like all your little loyal subjects do, [[hottip:*:Either she This is ''intentional'' sincerity.]]\\honestly feels this way (due to the proposed lamentation previously mentioned), or she's really being sarcastic this time. If the latter is the case, then they're relationship may have been hurt because PB set her expectations too high and expected Marceline to treat her like royalty.]]\\

Well, I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I shouldn’t have to justify what I do [[hottip:*:"Why should I justify why I don't treat you like a princess? Not EVERYONE has to."]\\

Why do I want to? Why do I want to...[[hottip:*:But Marcie The fandom

-->'''Marceline:''' I'm gonna drink the red from your pretty pink face... [[hottip:*:Either she is being flirty with PB by calling her attractive and is suggesting she wants to kiss her face, or she's trying to spite her by ''sarcastically'' calling her pretty, and using PB's face in her lyrics means nothing.]] I'm gonna...\\

Like all your little loyal subjects do, [[hottip:*:Either she honestly feels this way (due to the proposed lamentation previously mentioned), or she's really being sarcastic this time. If the latter is the case, then they're relationship may have been hurt because PB set her expectations too high and expected Marceline to treat her like royalty.]]\\

I’m just your problem, [[hottip:*:Clearly, she's saying "Deal with it, bitch. I won't change for you." This is ''intentional'' sincerity.]]\\
It's like I'm not, even a person, am I?\\
I’m just your problem [[hottip:*:Here, the meaning changes. (Or \\
Well, I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I shouldn’t have to justify what I do\\

I forget what landed me on your blacklist,\\
But I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I shouldn’t have to be the one that makes up with you, so\\
Why do I want to? Why do I want to...

Is that why you always avoid me? [[hottip:*:She reveals that PB]] \\

I’m just your problem,\\
I’m just your problem,\\

I’m just your problem\\

I forget what landed me on your blacklist,\\

Is that why you always avoid me? [[hottip:*:She reveals that PB \\

* Let me take the other side of this. PB has been shown to be a bit of a warrior princess who defends her hapless subjects against monsters. Marceline was making a name for herself as a monster, for self defense, until Finn decided that she was a good girl. Marceline isn't looking for loving from PB, just social respectability. The problem is that PB sees all the pranks she still pulls and so keeps her at arms length to maintain her own position. That is why she can only wear the shirt in private.

'''Marceline:'''

''Work in Progress''

Ever since the episode "What Was Missing" was aired, the relaionship between [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Adventure Time's]] two major characters, Princess Bubblegum and Marceline has been shrouded in controversy. The fanbase recently has gone to war on whether or not their relationship is platonic or if the relationship has a more [[LesYay romantic implication.]] The main issue here is subtext, but what we do know about their relationship is that Princess Bubblegum and Marceline was once friends, but had some sort of falling out before the series began, which explains the contempt they had for each other during the episode (and the attitude that Bubblegum had towards Marceline during the episode "Go With Me"). What we also know is that throughout "What Was Missing", Marceline made it very clear she wants to reconcile with the Princess and heal their relationship. Which is where we start the FlameWars and arguments between the two camps. Here is where we start to analyze the subtext from the episode and the different explainations between each side.

* Let me take the other side of this. PB has been shown to be a bit of a warrior princess who defends her hapless subjects against monsters. Vampire Princess M was making a name for herself as a monster, for self defense, until Finn decided that she was a good girl. VPM isn't looking for loving from PB, just social respectability. The problem is that PB sees all the pranks she still pulls and so keeps her at arms length to maintain her own position. That is why she can only wear the shirt in private.